Vulnerability and penetration

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2018-02-07T21:46:38+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

weird phrasing, attractive men literally are the prize, they arent "treated" as the prize for some inexplicable reason

Q4W: Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent?

its not so much abhorrent as unheard of to me. ive never encountered this in a lifetime of dating

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

because some women who DO bond over sex are damaged by repeatedly bonding and being abandoned

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

yes, more women "bond" over sex or see sex as special and cant separate "feelings" from sex. being able to separate is a masculine trait

DaphneDK42 · 2018-02-07T22:44:32+00:00

Penetrating someone is inherently dominating while having something penetrate you is a vastly different experience from a literal and psychological perspective.

That is not inherent. That is due to just the overall dynamics between men and women, women being weaker, having more at stake with sex, etc. The act of penetration itself could just as easily be expressed so that for instance she is swallowing up the male, consuming him with her body and he is putting out his vulnerable body part, entrusting it to her, etc.

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Why shouldn't they? Do you not see having sex with an attractive woman as a prize?

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

I might. But its going to take a big hit to her overall attractiveness. She'll have to be super hot to outweigh it.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Perhaps. Or perhaps men are damaged in the same way, but that the things in our personality which are being damaged, are things which men really value in women, but women don't value in men. A jaded woman - not so attractive; an innocent naive man - not so attractive.

InternationalProfile · 2018-02-07T23:18:01+00:00

Any woman who had sex with 4 men in the same day is not suitable for marriage or any long term relationship. She is a thrill seeker and not emotionally stable. She would have no hesitation cheating at a moments notice.

30 guys in this day and age isn't really bad. The 4 men in 1 day is a huge, huge red flag and sounding alarm.

EDIT:

I read the first comment on the photo you supplied. The people in that sub are mentally ill.

No_English_Well · 2018-02-07T23:11:22+00:00

1 : my guess would be that they don't see it as a pumped and dumped if in the end of the day she got to fuck the guy she wanted to fuck

2 : I did younger lots of times, sex is effectively amasing, Now that i'm older I feel kind of sorry for those girl who put all their self-worth into sex

3 : from my experience, sadly a lot of them had sexual abuse as kid, other just don't get why sex is so important to other and it make them feel wortless witout it.

4 : My guess would be that women tend to be more open about it.

[deleted] · 2018-02-08T00:03:52+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Isn't sleeping and dating with attractive people kinda the point of the whole endeavour in the first place? Attractive people, men and women, have a lot of value and thus get treated like "the prize".

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

I'd like to say no or that it depended on the way that damage manifested itself but honestly, I don't really give a fuck. I'm beyond dealbreakers and red flags at this point. I can't afford to be picky so if I find someone willing to fuck me I'm probably just gonna go for it.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle casual sex and become damaged as a result?

I honestly doubt anyone gets damaged because of casual sex. Some people might regret it later but casual sex ain't that big a deal to scar someone for life.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

I don't believe so. Some people feel more vulnerable when intimate with someone but I don't think it has anything to do with being the one that's penetrated. Like, I don't think gay bottoms necessarily feel more emotionally vulnerable during casual sex.

kandyapplez · 2018-02-08T01:30:19+00:00

Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Because attractive men are attractive.

Q4W: Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent?

Nope.

Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Casual sex isn't damaging, its that damaged people are more interested in antisocial behaviors like lots of casual sex (for women) because socities "rules" govern them less.

ummidkhi · 2018-02-08T07:38:15+00:00

Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

There’s no such thing as a woman getting pumped and dumped. You’re reading too much into it. When I see a hot 6’4” blond dude I want to sit on his face, that’s it. It’s all about getting off.

Electra_Cute · 2018-02-07T22:03:00+00:00

Q4W: Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent?

It is not so much abhorrent, more so it is odd and I can not see how people do this exactly, can you give me an example of how this would look in action?

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

I think it is a correlation and not a causation, "damaged" women are more likely to engage in promiscuous behavior. From my personal experience, I have had casual sex once in my entire life, it did not "damage" me, but it was one of the worst experiences I have ever had.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Emotionally vulnerable in what sense?

[deleted] · 2018-02-07T22:58:32+00:00

This is why we need the thot patrol.

InternationalProfile · 2018-02-07T23:20:00+00:00

30 isn't even a lot in 2018

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mistercheeez-o____O- · 2018-02-07T23:13:37+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

In most cases, I assume that it's with the intention of forming a relationship.

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

Would I? Probably. Should I? Maybe not, or I guess this has more to do with if she is progressively dealing with these issues, or if she instead indulges them, because that would be dangerous to a potential relationship. However, if she displays agency and is actively trying to heal from her dysfunction, than I would be honored to help her with that, where appropriate, and in any way I could, because if I'm dating her, it means I'm quite fond of her.

Q4W: Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent?

Checks package Shucks can't answer that.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

I think it's because it must take a great deal of trust for them to have sex in the first place, and I think a lot of what we call "sexual liberation", is a sort of pop-cultural peer pressure for young women to rush into this (and men, but we're talking about women so), at increasingly earlier ages, where anyone would probably lack the tools to cope with sex/sexuality in general.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Compared to men? I don't think it makes them more emotionally vulnerable, but I think there is more leniency afforded to them should they be, whereas men are more forced to deal with it and move on, because men are most often the ones who have to take the initial steps for the relationship to move forward at every subsequent level, and following that logic, if women feel like they have to be the more proactive ones (which oft times they are), it can lead to resentment/ or feelings of rejections on there part. It's bittersweet for both of them. Sometimes being forced to deal with things on your own, may feel callous, because you would have a lack of support. For some though, or in many cases, being compelled to deal with things by oneself may push someone to find agency and control over their destiny. They may learn to prioritize the things in life that can lead to the ends they so desire.

Edit : Q4. They are probably more vulnerable, but I don't think it's by a substantial margin.

alreadyredschool · 2018-02-08T12:33:37+00:00

People are just too stupid to know what red flag means in this day and age apparently.

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Getting fucked by a hot guy is awesome. They rarely regret it. Women know that bad boys fuck better.

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

... that's what I mean. What is a red flag? Would you date and emotionally damaged woman? Why would you?

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

They either are damaged at the start or become damaged because of something (like that break up). The casual sex is just a way to notice it, a red flag. It's rarely the casual sex that does this. If a woman gets promises of commitment but then is dumped after sex repeatedly that breaks her trust but that wasn't casual sex.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

More women sure are. It's typical for women to need to love to have sex. And then there are women for them sex is like scratching an itch. That's a manly trait, in a relationship it ups advantages and disadvantages, like if she gets the hots for another guy she barely gets what's wrong about fucking him.

And then there are women like op who are broken and use casual sex for their ego etc etc.

The slutty phase after a boyfriend is mostly the first time she is single since losing her virginity, sex is awesome so they go out and get it.

despisedlove2 · 2018-02-08T16:55:19+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Genetic hypergamy.

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

No.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Interesting to psychologists, I am sure.

A woman with a casual sex history is a losing bet for any man looking for an LTR.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Yes. Shows up as a major increase in divorce probability once n count exceeds 2.

your_mom_on_drugs · 2018-02-10T13:20:53+00:00

Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Intrafemale status competition in a post-slutshaming culture.

Is vetting for sexual history abhorrent?

No, but if you make it a primary consideration you might miss something you'd actually be happy with - but hey, lots of fish in the sea etc.

Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Sex is ultimately about creating new life and creating new life with some rando you barely know is a bad life choice, especially when you're the one going to be carrying the child in your body (and then out of it for a few years at least).

Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

I don't know because I've no experience of being a man but I imagine that it has its dangers for men as well, emotionally as well as physically, those dangers might be different to the danger it poses to women though.

[deleted] · 2018-02-07T22:03:17+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Because attractive men are what all women want. Getting pumped and dumped by a hot guy gives her at least a shot at a relationship (which is what these women CLAIM they want). And a one-shot sex romp with a hot guy beats a relationship with an average guy. I know this because women do this over and over again, fuck up their relationships and lives for the chance to bed down with a hot guy. They have made it clear with their actions: five minutes of alpha beats five years of beta.

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

I would not date an emotionally damaged woman or a woman with a lengthy, colorful sexual history, regardless of whether they are correlated.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle casual sex and become damaged as a result?

several reasons, take your pick:

--they wanted a relationship with a hot guy and couldn't get one

--they realize deep down they aren't good enough or attractive enough to get commitment from a very attractive man

--the average guys who do offer commitment are the true measure of their value and they seethe with anger and resentment about it

--they're alpha widowed

--they bonded with some or most of the guys and they can't get over the breakups

--they had to settle for an "average" not very attractive guy and they hate themselves and the guy for it

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

most are, some aren't

S1imdragxn · 2018-02-07T22:12:50+00:00

From I gathered on the first thread is that slut shaming works

QFM: I would maybe date a girl who due to her sexual past is now emotionally damaged, but I’d never date the type of girl who sees no problem with being slutty or dismisses her past as a phase

wtknight · 2018-02-07T23:00:04+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Animal instincts. If some women instinctually think that the only way that they can get genetic material from a high physical quality man is by being pumped and dumped, then they are willing to do this. Other women don't mind being pumped and dumped, of course, because they only want something short term themselves at that point in their lives. And other women who don't like casual sex and have some self-esteem often act in ways that won't get them pumped and dumped.

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

No, probably not. I don't see a woman like this being my type.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Because many women crave emotional connections first and foremost. Women emotionally bond with their children, and developing an emotional bond with her mate means that he will be there to provide resources for her children. Birth control is something new that we have not evolutionarily adapted to as of yet.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

More emotionally vulnerable than men? Of course. Evolutionarily, women are eventually going to want to attract someone who will help to provide for their children. When a high quality man pumps and dumps her, it means that she begins to doubt her own ability to permanently attract a high quality man when that time comes in her life when she wants to settle down and likely have children.

carefreevermillion · 2018-02-08T00:24:22+00:00

Q4ALL: Because men are the prize for women who are interested in men. Just like women are the prize for men who are interested in women. The real prize is a healthy and happy long term relationship with someone who cares for you.

Q4W: I discussed all of my previous partners with my boyfriend and vice versa, but tbh we had sex before the detailed conversation came up, so there wasn't much time to vet. His n-count of PIV is a little lower than mine but he's gotten to some variation of 3rd base 4-5x more than my n-count, and lemme tell ya all that experience is incredible for our sex lives.

Q4All2: I think that there's a bell curve, and that the middle of the curve puts women to be more emotionally affected by casual sex. And it makes sense, really, because the female body has no idea that the brain driving the show is likely using birth control on it, so every time the brain forces the body to have sex, the body is trying to get a long term, protective, and providing mate for the possible baby. This produces bonding hormones in the female body, which confuses the female brain into getting attached, only for the male to leave. For most women, repeat the process enough, and you get "the thousand cock stare". The exceptions tend to be masculine minded women and/or women with very high sex drives.

Q4ALL3: I answered this above.

Eastuss · 2018-02-08T08:07:25+00:00

we both wanted to be exclusive very quickly

HAHAHA, translation:

She's from spain and dating means exclusivity in europe, so in order to get sex I promised her exclusivity or else she would have left

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

Chances are we're not sexually compatible.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Because they're dumb.

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Women are more emotionally vulnerable to anything...

newName543456 · 2018-02-08T00:17:45+00:00

Q4ALL: Why do you think so many women treat attractive men as the prize and willingly get pumped and dumped?

Because they are the prize and getting "pumped and dumped" by them is not some sort of tragedy but often it's actually great, memorable experience?

Q4M: Would you date an emotionally damaged woman if it is a consequence of her sexual history?

All women would be sluts, if they could get away with it.

Maybe it's best to not get angry over it and instead reevaluate your whole approach to intimate relationships? I mean, what is more likely? Whole world suddenly adapting to how you think world should work, or you just being mistaken?

My approach is "don't bother with commitment", so entire problem of sexual history is circumvented.

Q4ALL: Why do you think some women cannot handle causal sex and become damaged as a result?

Q4ALL: Are women more emotionally vulnerable to causal sex?

Or maybe it's what they wanted all along and you're trying to assign to women some sort of virtue they never had?

Title	Vulnerability and penetration
Author	Mr_Smoogs
Upvotes	4
Comments	81
Date	February 7, 2018 9:39 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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