Honey or Vinegar?

red_Mercedez · 2021-11-13T01:03:18+00:00

Im not sure if this is true, but I heard somewhere that men likes those types because they give off this air of selfishness/non-doormat behaviour. The more "selfish" a woman is, the more she knows herself and the better she wants for herself. The more she has character? They're more 'interesting'. Some girls who are like tooooo nice, tooooo accommodating, very patient etc, they don't truly LOVE themselves. How can you tell ? Because they have no boundaries. They don't know themselves. Maybe thats why 'rude' women are more intriguing to men? I think this was from a book called "Why men love bitches" lol That book explains it much better than me!:)I think its smart to establish a good balance not being a doormat, stating boundaries, while being yourself and making sure you're smart and get what you want! You don't have to be rude. What are you like? Are you toooo nice? Do you know what you want, do you love yourself and who you are?

I think mostly men should respond to this question though.. because I wonder too!

TheTwincessMaker · 2021-11-13T19:56:14+00:00

I think you should look below the surface of these relationships. I've definitely witnessed seemingly good guys gravitating toward bitches, just as I've seen the opposite, but do you really want a man who has his priorities so skewed? Just as the girl who dates jerks has issues, the guy who dates the women you describe has his own problems. If it lasts and he's not just having a good time, I'd say 10 times out of 10 that woman is going to be the ballbuster in the relationship. In five years, their carefully curated Facebook will look awesome and she'll be exhausted from doing everything, while he feels totally emasculated all the time. I worked really hard to avoid that dynamic.

All_Lurk_No_Post365 · 2021-11-14T02:40:48+00:00

This is false,

I am a man, and I can tell you we do not like mean women or bitchy behavior, that's just bullshit men lie about liking in order to save face toward the fact that they can't get a woman to act right around them. When have you ever seen a top shelf man date a mean woman? Maybe he'll stick around long enough to sleep with her a couple times but not enter into an actual committed loving relationship.

Second, when you say they fall in love with mean women, is it because they're mean or is it because they're attractive enough to get away with being mean?

dadudenines · 2021-11-13T01:49:41+00:00

These "the dating scene is garbage" type posts should start by OP's posting their stats: height, weight, age.

They do this in marriedRP. Basically to ensure the dude is not a lazy POS and the source of his own problems.

Anyways, girls playing this game are making it obvious they want attention, and usually have high SMV. But long term they will not secure a stable relationship. Beyond the bedroom, the guy is going to tire of that attitude real fast.

Better to use the honey and take it to where some quality guys are. Long term, that is a way better strategy.

Lando_620 · 2021-11-13T15:01:36+00:00

In my experience women that act like that are either; A: very attractive with a ton of entitlement as a result of too much attention/validation. B: they are less attractive women who joined the feminist cult because they didn't get the level of attention/validation they felt like they deserved.

I'm 34 now, but when I was in my mid-late twenties I learned I was consider pretty attractive for a guy. (6'4", moderately athletic, blue eyes, 8/10 face) I would specifically go after these rude attractive women after a breakup. It was both a challenge which helps distract from heartbreak, and fun sex with an attractive woman that I knew had zero chance of me getting attached. Perfect sort of rebound.

I can't speak directly for other men, but my guess would be that with men trending away from marriage all together, more and more men are using these women just to avoid risking their own attachment but still get sex.

Intrepid_Place5390 · 2021-11-15T15:52:49+00:00

(women are slightly rude almost always have men falling in love with them).

I don't think you'd want the man who does this. I consider myself to be HVM, if a women is rude to me, she's gone. (within reason or circumstance).

Best approach (IMO) is to be honest, sweet,etc. Don't fake it, treat them like how you want to be treated.

You will find guys like you mentioned. Weed them out.

You mention you may need to change a bit in order to find someone. Well, what are you doing today for example? How would you propose to change to attract someone?

throwawayisathing · 2021-11-13T22:14:09+00:00

This post is taken straight out of the r/nicegirls subreddit. The girls in mention have other qualities than being nice. Stop being bitter about what other women have and ask yourself how you can achieve that instead.

vanillapopsicle · 2021-11-13T23:07:06+00:00

You should post actual guys reviews of you instead of your own analysis.

Title	Honey or Vinegar?
Author	purpleand20
Upvotes	13
Comments	13
Date	November 13, 2021 12:13 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
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