Again: be critical.

yukinara · 2016-04-19T17:55:04+00:00

one thing I have learned after becoming a nurse is: be skeptical. The amount of bullshit you see every day is staggering, and we all have a brain to filter it out and retain the most useful knowledge

Unfortunately, what that egoistical douche offered is equal to the stuff I flushed down the toilet every night. The amount of misinformation in his "dick" post is stupidly high, and people still eat it up? And remember those are hard science which is easy to debunk. Imagine other advice posts that can't be scientific proven. So much for a sub full of people claiming to be "intellectual superior" to betas.

Again: any health-related claim not back by scientific research, not peer-reviewed, and purely anecdotal is 100% BULLSHIT

Btw, no amount of exercise or supplement can make your dick bigger. Deal with it. It is determined from birth.

So instead of wasting time on those stupid 'advice', improve your performance with technique instead. As long as your dick isn't the size of a chili pepper, you will be fine with the right technique.

MattyAnon · 2016-04-19T18:09:36+00:00

u/Meristry is probably a shill account for u/Clint_Redwood to do further experiments on us.... sign me up!

ClericJohnPreston · 2016-04-19T19:03:55+00:00

The problem with "do your research" is confirmation bias and unreliable sources. Who says any source is reliable these days on the Internet? But who says they aren't???

"Check legit sites like webMD" someone says. But someone else says "webMD is shit, never look there". I you check it and find that they say something like "claims for L-arginine" treatments for impotence are premature and not enough studies have been done". So you say hmmmm.

Then you head over to mercola or natural news and they tell you how it's common knowledge that Arginine helps ED. But then someone here on TRP says "lol mercola is shit mate"....

You're always left right where you started. A never ending circle. You never know who to trust or if there is any legitimate source out there. And then confirmation bias. If I wanted to link to 10 articles that say Arginine is brilliant for ED, I'll find them. I can also find 10 that day it doesn't work. So which do I feel like posting when it gets brought up?? Whichever side of the argument I feel like...

The only thing I can know for sure is what I try. But even then there's placebo effect, dietary changes or sleep problems can skew results, stress, undersized or overdosed supplements that I can't measure myself, unreliable product reviews, paid reviews....

The Internet kinda sucks for research of this nature lol. And yet I'm always here searching for things exactly like this. Now if I want to check sports scores or watch instructions on how to make tuna casserole, well that I can do for a fact.

2016-04-19T18:37:06+00:00

Right on the money. TRP teaches us to improve our minds and our bodies so that we can turn back the dial and regain our masculinity. Physical fitness is a life-long endeavor, and it gets harder as we age. Education is also a life long endeavor. We must never stop researching and learning.

Clint's posts are loaded that is for certain. I do believe that he in fact is pointing out that the Blue Pill we all here are trying to escape, lurks below the skin level very close to our hearts and souls. And how easily this blue pill can be called up and usurp our frame.

We keep coming back, back, back to this subreddit because we are depressed in some fashion, and that is the blue pill lurking under the surface. Unfortunately, the blue pill manifested into who we were at a very young, impressionable age. Blame society? Blame feminism? No, we have to own our shit.

I was just walking down the hall working my mildly secure corporate job, thinking about Clint, his post, and his manipulative, vague style, so intentionally set up that way. Is Machiavelli at play? Of course he is.

And the old hint of blue swirled near my soul and I became afraid, and I worried. So yes, it's right there gents, lurking, hiding out.

The honest truth is that red pill is hard, so very, very hard to manifest, day in and day out, because our belief system and psychological upbringing provided us with an inner weakness, and we have this in us now. The Red Pill provides tools and information to fight this, but the lurker remains.

Kill the lurker of blue.

trpthrowaway001 · 2016-04-19T20:29:24+00:00

Hitchens' Razor: "What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

joseph_fuzzco_Jr · 2016-04-19T18:52:22+00:00

I realized this as soon as he told us to rub your dick down with alcohol after sex.

sir_wankalot_here · 2016-04-19T22:25:13+00:00

Unfortunately I never read the rest of his posts after the squirting nonsense started. But it is a hard lesson to be learned, that anyone can be suckered. He also has proven that frame and reframing an argument or point is highly effective. Here is the basis of his experiment.

The reality is, I’ve been fucking around with you guys for a couple months now. Testing out different styles of writing, posting topics I know will be extremely controversial like ”Dick Health”, noticing correlations in the readers and how well a post is received. Testing which is more effective? Really detailed posts, really vague posts, post with arbitrary statistics like they teach in mass marketing, throwing in wordplay like GLO posts, making factual and cited posts like "Don't Listen To The Police" or "Understanding Women's Three brains", posts with twists and turns and everything in between that I can think of. My personal favorite of these tests would be ”The Golden Rule” were I radically changed my writing style. Go reread it if you want. Pay attention to how radically different that posts style is compared to my others.

No one is immune to being suckered. I remember the first time I saw Billy Graham live, he was already past his prime, I knew he was full of shit, but you could feel the magenetism of the man.

Around the same time, I was forturenate enough to have dinner with a man who had a small church but later went on to expand it into 200+ countries. Basically for the entire dinner he gave a monologue, but it did not feel like a monologue. As in despite talking for 95% of the time, you still felt involved. Coincidentally that is how many people described Hitler.

Sir_Distic · 2016-04-19T18:27:35+00:00

I've been reading and laughing at the "dick health" and "squirting" posts.

submitted_5_days_ago · 2016-04-19T21:59:14+00:00

The teacher said to the pupil: "think for yourself, my son."

And then we saw The Paradox of the Independent Thinker:

If the pupil doesn't do like the teacher says, then he pretty obviously doesn't think for himself.

But if the pupil actually does like the teacher says, then he pretty obviously doesn't think for himself too!

Moral: be the school owner.

pennywise2103 · 2016-04-20T04:04:48+00:00

Want to know if it's squirt or piss?

Make a girl squirt.

Feel it, smell it, taste it if you want. Research done.

Dis_mah_mobile_one · 2016-04-19T18:10:20+00:00

Radicals drive movements.

In any human group - and I do mean any group - those that most fervently agree or believe in the group control where the group goes ideologically. The job of moderates (and moderates by definition are the middle majority) is either to accept or reject the direction the radical fringe wants to go. Accept, the direction is set; reject, and the radicals need to go back and start in a new direction.

/u/Meristry, you give a good example here of the latter.

This sub isn't a movement. This sub ideally is nothing more (or less) than a praxeological collation of lived experience by men who seek to better understand and enjoy women. That's in the sidebar, using other words.

So when clint redwood states in his post that the redpill is a "subreddit designed to find and draw correlations in human behavior. Specifically women’s behavior so that we can use that knowledge to better ourselves." you know he's going beyond what the sub was started for. He's a true believer, a guy who ironically believes enough in The Red Pill as a thing even as he 'councils' guys on 'human mental frailty' that he's forgotten that this sub is not a fount of knowledge. It's a platform, an open source tool with no cost to entry which means men the world over can come and converse.

Stuff like this is why I think the Endorsed Contributor tag et al might be the worst idea to come out of here. I know there's always a power differential between Mods and Users just based on the logistics of running a >100K strong sub, and as an aside I think by and large the mod team have done alright - but the EC tags are basically karma magnets instead of earning likes on content alone, and I doubt clint would have posted everything he did without knowledge that he'd be listened to because he's got flair.

Which isn't to say that he has nothing worthwhile to bring. Far from it, I wholeheartedly agree with him when he says, "you can learn something from everyone". But that is even more reason to undo the flair system and strive for communication above hierarchy.

If not, then this sub really does risk sinking into a true echo chamber, which would defeat the point for which it was first founded.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-04-19T20:44:56+00:00

Another issue is the idea that Red Pill can be reduced to something as simple as an emotion.

I've seen guys say things like:

"Yeah I was being a real beta, but then I got really pissed off and turned Alpha ."

It's a mistake based on a limited understanding of how the self improvement process that takes you towards a masculine mental polarity actually works.

Misinformation and Disinformation are two separate things.

Misinformation is like making a copying error... you tried to get it right, but made an error in comprehension.

Disinformation is when you test others to see who is the sucker.

Apparently there were many who gobbled up some mythological ideas without examining them clearly. (the referenced OP)

I recently had a guy accuse me of referring to things he felt weren't a "credible source". That's a full Blue Pill emotional indoctrination argument. One decides if something is good information by actually studying it.

Very often the Red Pill has been twisted by the media and painted as entirely different than it is... and these people who distort the truth proclaim themselves as "credible sources" which you know is crap because there is a huge difference between what they write and what is truth.

Read original sources... think for yourself... do not let emotions redirect you from solid information. Anticipate that most "credible sources" are really representing the Blue Pill unless you can determine they aren't.

The Blue Pill is spiritual blindness... it's lack of Game awareness.

Game awareness means you aren't the sucker.

trumpisafaggybeta · 2016-04-19T22:50:35+00:00

Didn't bother commenting there for a reason. A lot of fat/scrawny bloopers do the same thing with certain posts-- I actually caught one of them recently trying to do it.

Reddened · 2016-04-19T17:59:37+00:00

A good reminder. I know as I was reading Redwood's post I was thinking "man I really hope any dudes considering this do a bit of research first".

I don't have an issue with the post being allowed as long as it's understood it's anecdotal and not taken to be taken as scientific gospel. Inevitably though there will probably be someone that just gobbles down a shit ton of supplements solely based on that post and that's just Darwinism for you.

Grimmov · 2016-04-20T02:47:19+00:00

If you attend/have attended a proper university you will be taught that any claim which is not backed by at least one peer-reviewed paper, is merely an assumption i.e. horseshit."

Going by this statement, 98% of the viewpoints that TRP is founded on would be considered horseshit. Evo psych? Biologically-driven mental differences between men and women? No matter how much evidence exists to support something, science can and will be fabricated that claims the precise opposite.

The scientific process itself is clouded by politics, money and political correctness. Anything that goes against the social narrative or does not make someone money will not be allowed to become "legitimate science" by the powers that be. Statistics are doctored as often as they aren't, and even when it's an honest attempt at real science, half the time it's wrong (a meta-analysis of studies shows that more than half of all studies are wrong or cannot be reproduced). If you base your entire worldview off of studies and what academia tells you you're allowed to believe, you're going to be looking at the world through a very tiny and distorted pinhole.

Getting better than average results in life requires beliefs that are not shared by the majority of individuals... "original research." This means coming to your own conclusions, informed by your own philosophy of life. That said, rationality, logic and proof must be the bedrock of intellect, and being critical of what you read is important. I merely object to the idea that deferring to academia to do your thinking for you is a good idea. Once you view scientific studies (i.e. the deeply flawed, politically and financially driven form of science that exists today) as the only legitimate form of knowledge, your views are easily controlled by the liberal-academic social narrative.

I don't care about this penis enlargement topic though. It's probably bullshit.

Clint_Redwood · 2016-04-19T18:57:17+00:00

I'll just point this out since apparently everyone is missing it?

Go to "Dick Health"

Hit Ctrl+F

Type in "Google"

Then type in "Research"

I tell the reader 8 times in the OP to google this stuff for themselves.

I have "research" in the OP 8 times also.

I guess i need to make a giant disclaimer in all bold caps so no one misses it?

I have an entire edited section in the intro where i state twice that I am in no way a professional. In that edit I have "Research" 3 times.

I cite the forums in which you can find anything you want able PE multiple times. I tell people multiple times that this isn't a topic to be condensed into a TRP post. I tell them to do their research.

Am i the only one seeing this?

leftenant_t · 2016-04-19T18:30:40+00:00

No one should start taking pills and drugs solely based on an advice from a post on reddit.

FrameWalker · 2016-04-19T18:36:54+00:00

The squinting article was spot on. Pretty sure it's less though. The jackhammer going up and down is squeezing on her bladder. When she comes she pees lol

JimmyJiangh · 2016-04-20T03:34:46+00:00

The best lies are partially true. His squirt post was solid advice.

Honestly, his posts are no different than the rest of the content in this sub. Most of it is worthless speculative bullshit, and some of it is great. I don't think anything said on this sub is useful at all unless you've had personal experiences that can confirm theories posted here. If you took everything here at face value you'd act like an idiot. You need to be able to put things in context and know what to take with a grain of salt.

Entropy-7 · 2016-04-19T20:11:54+00:00

Squirt juice is not piss. Source: personal experience.

Hint: most everything you read in a peer-reviewed article, someone had a hunch that it's true (based on their personal experience) that they then gathered enough data to prove it's true.

Title	Again: be critical.
Author	Meristry
Upvotes	160
Comments	89
Date	April 19, 2016 5:31 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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