Always Assume The Worst. Protect Yourself From Getting ‘Metooed’.

Seaay00 · 2018-10-02T14:43:07+00:00

Yes, be wary. Wear condoms, save texts and record audio. But at the same time, it's futile to become paranoid, just like girls being paranoid about getting raped. Keep a low profile, and don't become a public figure.

LucidCunning · 2018-10-02T14:52:46+00:00

" ...just because some random hoe regretted society calling her a slut and decided to ‘metoo’ you."

I've emotionally overcome a lot of RP truths, but this one still depresses me. I know of so many stories involving women who, JUST TO SAVE FACE, destroyed a man's life. I have friends that this has happened to, personally.

None of us would play Russian roulette, but we still fuck women. Sometimes I genuinely wonder if it's worth the risk. After orgasm, the answer is usually, "no."

MattyAnon · 2018-10-02T17:09:33+00:00

Great post, very timely.

Women are hardly the nurturing, caring partners they once used to be

I don't believe they ever were. The difference in times of old is that they tried harder to appear that way - because men demanded it. Now that they can get away without appearing to be good mothers they have mostly dropped the facade. It's a fundamental fact of human nature that human nature doesn't change much.

The biased judge armed with shit laws, did not take her previous sexual conduct into picture. (a former boyfriend of her submitted an affidavit stating that she had pulled the rape card on him as well).

It is illegal to say anything bad in court about a woman accusing a man of rape. Her reputation and previous conduct cannot be taken into account. The prosecution can and will paint her as a virginal saint, and there is nothing the defence is allowed to say against it.

Look at the recent Kavanaugh case. Crying rape 30 years later!! A strategic, political move to ruin his life.Does anyone call bs on that? Nope. She gets 100% support by media while Kavanaugh is shamed and destroyed publicly.

It's insane that women are protected while men are not. Even though women willing proclaim their rape-victim-status publicly on social media, the court will protect her. No man ever says "hey, I'm a sexual abuser", but his status as such is declared in court with absolutely no protection.

The reason for the difference in these two treatments is nothing to do with the crime and everything to do with the genders of those involved. Only penis owners are defined as rapists, only women as rape victims. And only rape victims have their identity and reputation protected in court, not coincidentally these are always female. And only accused rapists have no protections, and again not coincidentally these are always male.

Always protect yourself. Have a cctv at your place. Save chat logs. Hang in public places, kissing and cuddling. Send a post sex ‘confirmation’ text and get her reply. Consult a lawyer on adequate measures to safeguard yourself. Do everything in your power to protect yourself from a potential rape claim.

And if the worst happens say nothing to the police (they only want a conviction) and certainly never admit that you even had sex. It's much harder to prove that sex happened than it is to imply that the sex you admit happened wasn't consensual.

Loze1 · 2018-10-02T15:53:26+00:00

I almost had it happen to me a few years ago. Still shaken up by it, for something I didn't even say. She even said I touched her, which I didn't. The only way I got out was because I asked a gang leader for help. They would've lost me in jail if that guy didn't tell them they'd all be dead if they went through with it. It's so corrupt here, I had to take a drastic action like that to walk free today.

The accusations would've stuck to anyone. I don't even want to approach women anymore, it scared me into being MGTOW. I'm only on TRP for the self improvement posts. I'm just going to build a better life and live alone.

Thunderbird93 · 2018-10-02T20:36:17+00:00

Cristiano Ronaldo recently got meetoo'd. Just settle out of court with the hoe,point is, being rich shields you from this bullshit if you play your cards right. Ronaldo paid a hoe $300,000 to stfu and his case seems to be on the low. Funny part is the hoe kept quiet,probably spent all the money now wants attention so is trying to get into the spotlight.Shits sad bruh

H4RV3YSP3CT3R · 2018-10-02T18:01:25+00:00

Again, not all women will pull this shit but a vast majority will, Make sure not to stick your dick in or have any form of friendship or relationship with a Girl who shows signs of any cluster-B personality disorders (Mainly BPD) or depression. You've effectively minimized a significant amount of bullshit just by doing that.

Kyson5 · 2018-10-02T14:33:08+00:00

"Hahaha look how fragile your masculinity is" "Found the rape apologist/incel"

Say stuff like this in real life and this is what you'll be greeted with. We are in the age of 'believe freely feels and the victim, don't give two shit-coated flying fucks about evidence"

idrinkyour_milkshake · 2018-10-02T19:07:36+00:00

Cristiano Ronaldo just got accused, I can't think of anyone with more SMV than him.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2018-10-02T16:22:20+00:00

Interesting enough....none of my female relatives believe this woman at all.

They took one look at her, said she had mental issues and were not surprised at all that she refused to release any of her therapy notes.

So don't actually think this is a much female problem as a SJW or leftist groupthink problem.

ForgottenMemes · 2018-10-02T20:59:37+00:00

Always protect yourself. Have a cctv at your place. Save chat logs. Hang in public places, kissing and cuddling. Send a post sex ‘confirmation’ text and get her reply.

This is all fine, but it won't help you as much as you think. I worked in the LA courts for several years and saw numerous cases where totally false claims by women destroyed the lives of innocent men and sank legitimate businesses who followed all the rules.

The first thing you have to understand is that the facts don't matter. Why are women like Ford and Sweatnik coming out with such obviously fake and baseless claims when no reasonable person would believe them? Because they've been getting convictions on less for decades. Innocent until proven guilty is a lie. You must prove your innocence and that is nearly impossible. Even if you record every encounter they can always claim something happened at some time when you weren't being recorded, it's impossible to prove that this isnt true.

Your first line of defense against a false claim by a women is convincing her that she won't win. You need to do this before she is thinking of making a claim. Be sure to tell anyone you are involved with that you are recording your phone calls and saving your emails because someone you know had a false claim against them. Make sure any potential false accuser thinks that you know what to do if they accuse you and that they will end up going to jail for filing false charges. Exactly how you convince them is up to you. I cite my experience with the courts.

Your second line of defense is the cops. Generally speaking the advice to not talk to the police is true, they are out to get you, however you want to get them as much information as possible about how crazy False Accuser is. If your lawyer gets a list of people who've met False Accuser and will say that she told them stories about how she's made false accusations in the past or is mad at you for some trivial reason most cops will sometimes drop the case. This is exactly what happened with Kavenaugh, in a normal instance of a false accusation the case would have been dropped because everyone who the police talked to didn't support Ford's story. If his case were to go to court there is a 99.9% chance he'd lose even though the claims are obviously false.

If you do end up in court if seen acquittals in only 2 instances. First, the hard evidence is totally overwhelming AND catches False Accuser in multiple big, obvious lies. This kind of evidence is nearly impossible to get and it's even harder from a trained false accuser like Ford, she knows where to be vague. Believe it or not some women are dumb enough to admit they are going to file false charges against you over text or email. The second way is to have multiple witnesses that will confirm that False Accuser had planned to make a false accusation because of some trivial dispute, money or other despicable reason. This type of defense is easier to develop as it only requires a robust group of friends who are aware of the situation and willing to testify on your behalf.

Be aware that the courts can and will, manufacture evidence and bring in people you've never met who will testify that they've known you for years and you've confessed crimes to them in private. I've seen this happen.

tempolaca · 2018-10-02T15:17:18+00:00

Crying rape 30 years later!!

Not even rape. "Attempted rape".

I've in dozen of situations when I was 16 year old that might be now called "attempted rape" I tried to kiss a girl once when I was 16 in high school, I was joking, it was 25 years ago. Was attempted rape? obviously not. But if you ask her now, she might say yes.

In fact I'm #metooed right now, not for rape but for "following" and "looking too much" at a girl at job. Obviously I did no such things, and are impossible to prove. Nevertheless, this psyco girl accused me and it's not the first time she's doing it.

As a result, since a year ago my SMV tanked, my LTR leaved me and it didn't affected my job because I'm independent but I expect it to happen in the future. #metoo can happen to anybody, and if you are a visible member of your community, it's very likely to happen.

Rian_Stone · 2018-10-02T14:46:18+00:00

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atticusfinch1973 · 2018-10-02T16:21:05+00:00

And the simple (and scariest) fact is there is no burden of proof on these women at all. All evidence is circumstantial and men are tried by the court of public opinion, which means they are guilty.

What I'd love to see just one of these men do is actually hold frame and tell the world that the woman is a liar and laugh in the face of anyone who says otherwise, not apologize and even subject themselves to any scrutiny.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2018-10-02T16:24:02+00:00

Of course, none of that will protect you from someone claiming that you groped and rape them at an unknown place, time or event...35 years from now.

Trenned_out · 2018-10-03T04:53:43+00:00

Can confirm. Was metoo'd in law school. Currently have completed all academic requirements but won't recieve my degree for two years because I'm suspended for consensual sex the girl later regretted when it got around the law school (which is an especially judgemental, gossipy tight knit environment). Didn't help that there is absolutely no due process or burden of proof in these campus kangaroo courts.

A big one I'd add besides the obvious like getting an "I had fun" text making sure she got home etc and screenshotting it, avoid fucking girls in your social circle. Saving reputation is a big reason for these false accusations.

AllahHatesFags · 2018-10-03T15:33:15+00:00

I thought it was funny at first, but every single guy nowadays has to be Dennis Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and videotape every sexual encounter. If a woman cries rape, tell her that if she doesn't immediately recant, the video will go viral and copies will be sent to her family and friends. I know there are "revenge porn" laws or something, but its not revenge, its exoneration and the penalty for these laws is nothing compared to the legal and social penalties for "rape".

salinorum · 2018-10-02T15:02:03+00:00

I don’t get how conviction occurs in the absence of evidence. Guilty until proven innocent!

punchyson · 2018-10-02T17:18:20+00:00

Rape accusations are now a way to get attention, make money, get status and political power. Feminists have weaponized it and are going to play that card heavily. Ironically, they don't #believeher when it is a Democrat that is being accused.

Like I think /u/Rian_Stone is saying, you have to be kind of careful with the way you are collecting your evidence too. A library of video of consensual sex might be exactly what a bluepill jury needs to see to put you away as a sex fiend.

KaraethonCycle · 2018-10-02T19:02:16+00:00

Let's not go overboard guys.

Yes, random accusations can happen, but you could also get run over on the street tomorrow. Unless you want to swear off crossing the street ever again, all you can do is take reasonable precautions like looking both ways and getting on with your life. Same with women, unless you plan to be celibate forever.

There is no such thing as absolute protection. There is always some risk. But the risk can be mitigated very significantly.

The most important thing you can do - and this is what is meant by "being alpha" - is that you leave her with good memories and good feelings about her time with you - whether it was one night or one year. She must look back on that night and smile and cherish the memory of an amazing night with an amazing guy, not look back and think about the night she reluctantly gave a blow job (consensually) to a beta who kept pestering her (hello Aziz Ansari).

In other words, leave her with good feelz, not bad feelz - because it is bad feelz that curdle over time into accusations like this. That is the single most important thing you can do.

Then there are a few other common-sense things you can do:

-I like to exchange positive texts the next day - usually I tell the girl how much I enjoyed the night and look forward to seeing her again, even if I don't plan on seeing her again - helps her feel like she wasn't just used for sex (NOTE: I do not lie to her and make specific plans or promises I can't keep) and importantly any positive reply from her about how she enjoyed the evening etc will be useful evidence in case of later accusations.

-Don't kick her out of your bed as soon as you've slept with her - make some time for comfort and good feels, and ideally take her for breakfast the next morning. That additional time spent can be the difference between a "regret accusation" and a fond memory for her.

-Calibrate to the girl and back off if she's uncomfortable with your escalation, and pump up her attraction before escalating towards sex. Pushing a girl who isn't (yet) attracted enough to you to have sex (or give you a BJ or a HJ, whatever) is a recipe for a regret accusation even if she consensually gives you what you want - it will leave her with bad feelz that can curdle.

tempolaca · 2018-10-03T04:51:29+00:00

Look at the recent Kavanaugh case. Crying rape 30 years later!! A strategic, political move to ruin his life.Does anyone call bs on that? Nope. She gets 100% support by media while Kavanaugh is shamed and destroyed publicly.

You know what happen if you oppose this? you get the #metoo partyvan. Right now, there are hiring managers on twitter looking at those developers that oppose the new Linux code-of-conduct and marking them as "never hire". But also posting this on twitter, to cause terror, because terror is an important part of the witch hunt.

primo_pastafarian · 2018-10-02T17:49:31+00:00

The Kavanaugh situation is a HILARIOUS example of what NOT to do. As cringe-y and difficult as it is to watch, everyone should watch that hearing and take lessons from it.

An allegation 30 years after the fact is absolutely a he-said-she-said situation, and Kavanaugh handled it horribly. I honestly thought he was high on something while he was answering questions (and ASKING questions, lol).

Kavanaugh could have walked out of there with a successful implementation of the "this is a politically motivated smear campaign" defense. Instead, he basically confirmed to everyone (men and women) that he was a total creep, and an idiot, and NOT someone you want on the Supreme Court. (though the christian fundamentalists will want him anyway, in an attempt to curtail abortion rights)

Know how to protect yourself, to the maximum extend possible. Never talk to the police. Remember that any text or email between you and a woman might be used against you in the legal system. Think before you speak or text. Don't even ACKNOWLEDGE that you had sex via texts, if you can help it.

It's a shame that we have to resort to this, these days. But the fact is, we are guilty unless proven innocent. And even when proven innocent, an accusation alone in the first place is usually enough to royally fuck up and ruin your life.

markinsinz7 · 2018-10-04T01:25:43+00:00

Cristiano Rinaldo just got fuckin accused like holy fuckkkkkkk

SirKolbath · 2018-10-05T12:29:40+00:00

And this is why I have said repeatedly that I won't fuck a girl without a camera rolling. If she doesn't like it, she can leave. Every moan, whisper, and word will be recorded and used as evidence to counter any attempt to hit me with a false rape accusation.

rebelde_sin_causa · 2018-10-02T18:05:54+00:00

If you believe all that you should live in a monastery. And I'm not saying you're wrong.

Psychological_Radish · 2018-10-02T16:12:33+00:00

Seeing as I am the author of the post "floating around" that OP refers to (read: Why Game/Genuine Desire Are Critical in the #MeToo Era), I will take this as an opportunity to respond and clarify my argument.

'You can protect yourself from getting metooed if you have game/are an alpha.'

I never said that. In fact, I clarified in the comments section of my article that this is a general rule. The best practices advocated on this forum are about maximizing success and minimizing negative outcomes, but nothing can be guaranteed 100 percent.

Seeing as TRP describes human behavior, which is inherently unpredictable, it should be taken for granted around here that positive statements should not be taken as logical absolutes.

My reply to another user in the comments section of the original article is reproduced below:

To be clear, nothing is absolute. But it holds as a general rule - Betas are more likely to get caught up in sexual harassment scandals than Alphas.

In a lot of ways, this runs counter to what you would expect in a statistical context. In a world where the fruits of the sexual marketplace accrue to a small fraction of men, one would expect that the elite would make up a greater proportion of the accused. But they don't, and my argument explains why.

All of these new societal rules imposed by #MeToo are for Beta men. Alphas are exempt, as has always been the case...because it's not harassment if you're hawt.

He was a ‘ALPHA’ in every sense.

First of all, a few counterexamples don't refute the overall veracity of my argument, as I have already explained. But let's look at this one in more detail.

You claim that Mike Tyson was "alpha in every sense," but the evidence that you provide is pretty superficial. Anthony Bourdain was pretty "alpha" in his career as well, with a reputation for being a 'bad boy' and all the trappings of wealth and fame. But with women, he was a nothing more than a Beta kingpin. Rollo Tomassi covers the concept of the "paper Alpha" and the Bourdain case pretty extensively, so I won't get into that here.

I am not familiar with the Tyson case, so I can't comment on the specifics, but it is certainly possible that she deployed LMR/ASD and he pushed too hard. That's what happened to Aziz Ansari. Ostensibly, Ansari's wealth and fame should afford him plenty of opportunities with women. But his accuser's account paints Ansari as a total Beta in his sexual escalation - a typical thirsty chump who tries to negotiate his way into her pants.

Again, there are plenty of men out there who should be Alpha, but actually are not. And to negate the risk of being accused of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, I should reiterate that there is no way for any guy, even an Alpha, to totally insulate himself from risk. Perhaps Tyson was one of those outliers. Readers who are more familiar with the man can draw their own conclusions.

Moral of the story: Don’t trust anyone. Ever. You can be the Chaddest of Chads with unparalleled game and still get ‘metooed’ and assfucked in prison just because some random hoe regretted society calling her a slut and decided to ‘metoo’ you.

And I could get killed tomorrow in a car crash on the way to work. What is your point? You cannot eliminate risk in life, but you can certainly MANAGE risk. My piece explains why Game/genuine desire are the best way to manage risk in sexual relations.

If you follow paranoia to its logical extreme, you end up with MGTOW...the equivalent of stuffing all your money under the mattress because you live in a state of perpetual fear. Is that really a solution? To some people, perhaps it is. But that's not what we are about here.

johnpayne10 · 2018-10-02T17:45:53+00:00

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RedGunnera · 2018-10-02T21:39:04+00:00

Recent news of a similar thing happening to C Ronaldo after he settled a sexual assault case in Nevada for half a mill. The money dried up and the woman is coming back for seconds.

Any examples of good confirmation texts?

LayingWaste · 2018-10-04T13:16:52+00:00

I got 7.5 years in prison for a fucking whore.

I was so chad that it wasn't funny.

Be warned guys, bitches words are taken as gold.

I am still on parole for another year and have begun to rebuild my life after my car house and bank account were frozen.

CainPrice · 2018-10-02T15:10:36+00:00

This is panic-mongering.

99 percent of the time, you can meet a girl off of Tinder, have drinks for an hour, and take her back to your place or go to hers for consensual sex, and never, ever get accused of rape. Most guys go their entire lives never being accused of rape.

This crap where people appear out of the woodwork, decades after an alleged assault, to discredit rich celebrities and political figures - that doesn't apply to normal people like you. Some girl you met on Tinder last weekend isn't going to suddenly accuse you of rape three months later to save face. She's just not going to tell her next boyfriend she's had Tinder hookups.

That said, you should engage in normal human interactions with a woman, as much as a courtesy and as a decent human being, than as a form of rape accusation prevention. You thank women who had sex with you and tell them you had a good time and will text them later because...you actually had a good time and it's polite to say thank you.

I'm not saying that a false rape accusation can't happen, but they're super rare, and if you're just some guy meeting girls on Tinder or in bars, you don't work with her, her friends don't know you, and you're pretty much not in her life and were just some random hookup, she's not going to reappear months later accusing you of rape. False rape hysteria is an internet manosphere rage topic and is not a serious concern for regular people off of the internet.

KeffirLime · 2018-10-02T16:27:20+00:00

Posted this on another thread, it's applicable here,

The whole #metoo getting accused of rape danger is a bit blown out of proportion IMO.

Sex has become such a liberal act, you really don't need to be worrying if you're gonna get accused of rape every time you fuck a stranger. The crazies are a severe minority. Unfortunately the cases that do happen,get a lot of coverage which skews public perception.

Think how much casual sex happens(thousands of people every night) and how many of those end up in a rape cases.

I would say you're looking at 0.1%. I can say over the last few years, having witnessed hundreds of instances of casual sex(not peeping tom, but i knew what happened) and being involved in quite a fair share myself, it hasn't featured once.

If you're both somewhat coherent and talk a bit beforehand, you don't really have anything to worry about.

If she's hammered and you pump and dump her, that's where her self preservation instincts kick in and want's to look for a scapegoat to blame.

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RobotAntidote · 2018-10-02T21:46:55+00:00

All I'm saying is that you're all focusing too much on the sign and not the man holding it.

textualintercourse · 2018-10-02T22:39:31+00:00

I always point blank ask: "You do want to have sex?"

80% a solid and enthusiastic, "yes."

20%: If she hedged, plan B, C, or D are just a text away. Walking away is a power play. You'll get them at some future point.

edit: And having the messages/text log is golden backup as OP stated.

Churningaway · 2018-10-02T23:55:30+00:00

Gentlemen who know truth about the SMP and are operating within it: Save this post and internalize the message.

Matter of fact, get it tattooed on your retina: trust no one. Be aware of your enemies (SJW's, bros who would throw you under the bus in a second, hoes), and safeguard yourself where ever possible.

tatakausohei · 2018-10-02T23:58:16+00:00

Awesome post

Reminds me of how people attach tethers with them when they go bouldering.

The higher you climb, the harder you fall. Literally.

Think of these precautions as tethers. The higher you climb in social status and smv, the greater the likelihood that these tethers will save your life.

Remember: Retrospection is always 20/20

arythmetic · 2018-10-03T08:52:30+00:00

More and more feminist contents are invading the Asian market, mostly through brands' preemptively virtue signaling. Though being metooed seem like a distant future on this side of the world, I suspect this mind virus will become a real issue here really soon.

KewlThanks · 2018-10-03T16:33:07+00:00

I'm strongly considered we just ally with the Muslims and reform from within.

We're trying to save a sinking ship imo. Yes enjoy the decline...or speed up the decline and jump onto a new ship that didn't blow a hole in the port side in 1920 by giving women the right to destroy the country.

immaculacy · 2018-10-06T00:38:05+00:00

Stay away from sluts (that's most girls/women). They all have daddy issues or some type of issue. Being a slut is not mental stability. She clearly doesn't give a shit about loving a man if she'd have sex with whoever before she meets him. Not saving it for your partner is ridiculous.

OverEasyFetus · 2018-10-02T23:13:26+00:00

I absolutely hate the truth of this. I am wasting my youth and prime because I can't stand the thought of women anymore. I can barely stand being around them at work, let alone spending off time with them.

Always Assume The Worst. Protect Yourself From Getting ‘Metooed’.

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