Cheating Is An Addiction

Natural_RP · 2016-05-19T22:53:54+00:00

i know cheating wives who barely starfish fuck their husbands. The guys who pay for their existence and keep them safe.

Meanwhile, they chase muscled assholes who ignore them. They suck their dicks in bathrooms, fuck them in cars, and will do anything he asks.

I don't know if its an addiction but its a lot more common than anyone thinks

killm3throwaway · 2016-05-19T14:57:38+00:00

Sadly, this is far too true, for both genders.

About 4 months ago I had a girlfriend and I don't like to use the term unicorn, but she really was great, for me at least. She was submissive, hot, funny, nice to be around and damn near never tried to disrespect me, bar the occasional shit test.

I cheated on her on a night out with my mates, fucked some randomer and didn't think twice about it... until the morning after. I woke up, went down stairs and she was making me breakfast. I couldn't even fucking look at her without feeling so much guilt. This sweet girl was good for me and I fucked her over.

I know this sub is all 'sexual strategy is amoral' but this broke me inside and I had to end it. Cheating may be your thing, but not mine. Do as you wish but sometimes emotional baggage will follow you home.

I spiralled into a fucking twisted cycle of actively pursuing taken women after this. Up until about 2 weeks ago both of my plates were in relationships.

EDIT: As someone else has pointed out, my knowledge on TRP is limited. These words come more from the heart than from an unbiased logical view. This was my emotional experience with cheating, therefore everybody's experience may differ.

NPIF · 2016-05-19T20:32:22+00:00

The BP nonsense in this thread is overwhelming.

"Booo hooo I cheated on a good girl and my feeeelings were bad and I would never do it again"

Really? Because let me tell you, if Ms. Goody Two-Tits ever cheated on you, she wouldn't feel bad at all. She'd rationalize it away like everyone else and that would be that. It would be your fault for being emotionally distant or whatever BS excuse came to mind.

There's a reason we use AWALT all the time here and that's because unicorns don't exist. If you really think your woman is so unbelievably special and unique and golden-hearted, you're still plugged in and you're asking for a rude awakening when she shows her true colours.

If you've read the sidebar you should know the difference between how men love and how women do. Men - unconditionally, women - opportunistically. The opposite is true for cheating. Men tend to be opportunistic and women are generally much more methodical. Cheating for women very rarely happens in the context of a one night stand - sometimes, sure, but these instances are the exception to the rule.

Hypergamy suggests that a woman is much more likely to cheat as part of an effort to branch swing, meaning that if a woman cheats on you, it was likely weeks in the making and it was usually not just a "moment of weakness." Sex for women is a means to an end - a way to ensnare a high value man with the golden pussy.

For men, the opposite is generally true - cheating is generally to fulfill a base need - sex - and that's it. If a man isn't getting it at home, he'll get it somewhere else. That's why men having mistresses was/is a thing, and why women are generally OK with alpha sharing.

The point I'm making here is that cheating, for men, isn't and shouldn't be a big deal, especially for redpill men. Whatever your views on personal morality, from a sexual strategy standpoint being bitch-made and going and telling your LTR about your shameful fee-fees after cheating on her is perplexing to her -you've demonstrated higher value by having options besides her and then countered that by crying about it. In her mind, you just look soft and pathetic. If you cheat and really feel bad about it, just do the smart thing and keep it to yourself.

FattiesMakeMeGag · 2016-05-19T18:54:24+00:00

My LTR admits to cheating once. I cheated on my ex ALOT. We've both told each other the truth in my current relationship and why we did it. Both of us have also been cheating on. Karmatic I suppose. We both refuse to cheat again because of the pain we realise we caused others and experienced ourselves. I have a massive ego which is why I cheated and when I was cheated on it shattered me. Id never do that to another person again.

Eyes_Of_The_Dragon · 2016-05-19T14:42:02+00:00

A former plate was addicted to finding men on Craigslist and fucking them in parking lots. I told her she should get divorced and be single but she needs her beta bucks.

sixfingerring · 2016-05-19T16:45:43+00:00

Great post OP.

Been in a LTR for nearly a year now, been cheating since day 1. I'm not proud of it. I can't remember where I read this (a TRP recommended book though), but cheating basically boils down to two things. Either you are not sexually satisfied or you are not emotionally satisfied. I could imagine that for many, it's the latter. Here at TRP, we always say that you have to fuck a woman like there's no tomorrow. Do with her as you please and she will follow you every whim, hence being sexually satisfied isn't hard. Another thing we talk about here on TRP, is the notion of motherly love. Allow me to refresh for those of you who haven't read about this. Many of us come from a BP childhood and experienced a strong motherly love. Therefore, when entering the dating scene, many of us expect that the girl we LTR gives us the same motherly love. Let me make one thing clear. She won't and she never will be able to provide that for you. Now, some might have overcome the notion of motherly love, but for us newbies (I've been here for a year and a half and still have long way to go), it takes time. Understanding that a girl will never be able to provide you with that same love and understanding that your mother is able to can be quite hard, but liberating when reached.

To conclude, if you are not sexually or emotionally satisfied, chances are that you'll end up cheating.

This is not supposed to function as an excuse for cheating, but as a brief analysis of why we do what we do.

mugatucrazypills · 2016-05-19T22:11:21+00:00

There's an army of broken down betamax(tm) dudes out there with a cuckold fetish that'd be happy to let you screw their wives/SO.

Set that up on craigslist if you're worried about betarage.

RedPillDan · 2016-05-20T12:40:59+00:00

Every big relationship I ever had, including 2 marriages ended with me being cheated on. It's what ultimately drove me to TRP. During each of those marriages I was a good guy, who didn't cheat.

Now, I don't care anymore. I'm in an LTR and she's great on paper but I'm never getting married again. I've told her I'm not going to marry her. I've told her she's a glorified room mate. I've told her to leave if she doesn't like it.

So of course she stays.

My point is, I cheat quite a bit now. I don't and won't ever trust women to be loyal again. I'm unwilling to hold myself to a moral standard our society has turned into a joke.

It's increasingly entertaining to watch my LTR become stronger because I actively/outwardly care about it less. Cheat is you want. Just don't fool yourself into thinking your girlfriend is loyal and therefore you must be. Because neither thing is true.

awalt_cupcake · 2016-05-19T15:32:17+00:00

Yes, and no. You already have counterexample here - she cheated on BB with AF, get AF, start no cheating life. So this is not universal principle.

However, cheating game is thrill drama and humans really addicted to drama nowadays. So yes, after 1 cheating the possibility of second cheating goes higher. But again, this is not absolute idea. Need to check motivation and do personality and situation analysis.

mugatucrazypills · 2016-05-19T14:42:02+00:00

1.The sex you have when cheating is like getting getting a shot of epinephrine to the heart then fucking a chick on Zeus's thunderbolt while Aphrodite licks the shaft.

Well sign me up for that. Long term consequences ....Yada Yada. Bad for society or something ... yada.

[deleted] · 2016-05-19T18:36:34+00:00

Had a friend who tried to get me with a few of his ex-plates, just for this. Never took the bait, but there were mutual friends who were scared to double-date with the guy because he had a reputation. Straight up sociopath. Had a lot of other vices on top of that though.

IKCC · 2016-05-19T20:47:48+00:00

This is a pretty well-written post and certainly does a good job of giving some insight. You're right, I've always thought of it as only occurring when the relationship isn't amazing. I also agree on the point of once a cheater, always a cheater. I never have and never will get serious with a female who's cheated before.

[deleted] · 2016-05-20T00:18:54+00:00

Can confirm.. I've done it... In every relationship.. Never got married tho so I still have my money

RMK24 · 2016-05-20T03:45:20+00:00

There is an actual sub just related to cheating, and the amount of RP truths on there is astounding. Everything from AF/BB to just plain old hypergamy is evident in every post. It is literally a gold mine to learn from.

knightSwolaire · 2016-05-20T16:20:03+00:00

My dad is basically a cuck in my eyes. His new wife cheated on him right in front of me. Had to throw the guy out then call my dad. He was devastated, but then took her back two days later. The respect I lost for him has not returned and it's been almost 2 years now.

introvertp · 2016-05-20T20:59:47+00:00

As someone who've had affairs with multiple women and my current plate set is 2 committed women out of 3 plates I'd like to give some insight on the mindset of my two committed plates and some general observations from other casual encounters;

*P.S. I love this sub, where else you can you open up about something like this!

They are really into the guys they're dating/married to. It's not always 'out-of-love' senarios. My plate has a boyfriend with a boat! They go island hoping spontaneously. She talks about him so enthusiastically sometimes I just sit back and think 'damn, this dude is interesting!'. I envy their social media relationship.
Very very sexually submissive. "Pull your skirt up, get down on your knees and crawl over to me on all fours". My two committed plates would be ready to please no hesitation, in contrast to my non-committed plate who'd whine "I want you to do things for me too you know" before she gets down and does a half ass attempt. There is a lot more to this (even me being at fault) but with that I think committed women make the best plates and are easier to time-manage, agreeing with OPs point that they're addicting.

*Quick insight: had a casual encounter with a committed woman that I initially met in a group, at some point during the group conversation she blurted "sucking dick is nasty" right next to her boyfriend to which he nodded. When I got to her the first thing she went for was my dick, to suck. It's all how your carry yourself; a woman's opinion and/or sexual freedom is just based on the man who's currently ~~fucking~~ leading her.

They don't see their cheating as wrong. Like regular women, committed women still keep a cluster of orbiters. There are orbiters that are there giving women hourly updates on what the boyfriend/husband is doing. My plate would question her boyfriend, based on reports, of why he's doing [x-activity with x-person] while undressing in my bedroom. Isn't the world fucked up.
She'll cheat, if she wants to. The easiest girl to fuck, is one you fucked good before. Based on my (limited) experience, a girl will find a way; even if you drop her off to work and pick her up at 4:00pm she still has time to fuck during her lunch.

*Quick Tips: Pick up a committed women just as you would normal girls. Skip the "do you have a boyfriend" type threads (it doesn't matter) -- if she's in a group you can do Mystery's "How do y'all know each other" or my personal line "Is there any reason I shouldn't chat you up right now?" then transition from there. Discretion is a big thing here but there are no lines you can say to achieve this. It's all about how you carry yourself, women have a sixth sense for discrete and non-judgemental men.

Even if she mentions the boyfriend a couple of times in the pick-up, just continue as you normally would it doesn't matter if she's still sitting in your lap.

Thenextprince · 2016-05-20T13:28:03+00:00

Moralizing aside, fucking a taken girl is rarely a risk that is a net positive in the long run.Becoming a serial cheater also has it's own whole list of shit that can fuck up your life. And if you cheat with a girl, you are more likely going to cheat on a girl. Again, to each to his own moral compass, I'm just warning you of the road you will be going down. It ain't all sunshine and daisies. I've seen dudes have guns pulled on them over chicks. Pussy ain't worth your life

Word. I have no problem with fucking taken chicks but it's just too dangerous. This tall big ass dude wanted to fight me because his chick was flirting with me on the bus and I reciprocated , grabbed her ass. Too much single pussy out there to risk an assbeating over a chick. No chick is worth fighting over/for.

[deleted] · 2016-05-19T17:32:14+00:00

You realize how powerful it is, when it's written in the goddamn 10 Commandments

Thou shalt not commit adultery

Next to stealing and killing.

RedSugarPill · 2016-05-19T22:24:48+00:00

Jesus this is a bad post.

Dating from grade school, through death, everybody cheats. I started dating at 13, and she cheated on her boyfriend--at 13 years old--to be with me. And I was her boyfriend until 15, when she cheated on me. In the meantime when I was 14, I cheated on her with another slut. This is normal life. This is nothing like drug addiction. Now I am an adult, and guess what.. We still keep playing the same games.

Very disappointing post.

Edit: I bet /u/Clint_Redwood is doing another TRP social experiment.

tb87670 · 2016-05-19T17:32:48+00:00

This post has me honestly curious. I'm about to go down on a taken girl I've been talking with past week and we're both keenly interested in sex, as a mild way to put it. Now I am wondering what this massive brain-chem cocktail the OP mentions is like.

verify_account · 2016-05-20T15:01:17+00:00

Thanks for the moralizing OP!

DatAEK971 · 2016-05-20T15:33:41+00:00

Best piece of ass I ever had was a 37 year old married gal. God she could fuck for days and suck start a leaf blower. Great gal. To bad it had to end, hubby found out and I bailed. You might be a hot piece, but I ain't gonna risk an ass whooping or catch a bullet for NO ho. Nope.

[deleted] · 2016-05-20T16:44:35+00:00

What are your thoughts if a girl was cheating on her previous boyfriend just before they broke up by smooching guys in a club?

ex_addict_bro · 2016-05-20T17:02:18+00:00

Shameless plug here, http://archive.is/8PIV4 .

My ex-wife actually had a very low N-count and I proposed her a threesome if she wanted to try the strange dick (yes, I know, but whatever). You know, what she told me? "WHEN YOU KNOW ABOUT IT IT IS NO LONGER FUN". She DID NOT WANT SEX, she DID NOT WANT other dick. She craves the high that the cheating addiction gives her. And you can easily cheat with FB or phone. That's easy.

LDRs over internet/FB are an addiction as well. Chasing an unavailable man is addictive for women. Dreaming about winning his attention. It gets stronger with LDRs.

Me personally, I need to leave all this suck stuff so I steer clear out of LDRs, but they should be a piece of cake for you, if you want them. Of course you get only broken women this way (just like in "I lost my wife and child, part 2" written by that poor solider).

Broken, addicted, piece of shit, beaten up as a child women. AVOID AS PLAGUE.

thechaosz · 2016-05-20T18:07:28+00:00

I am the guy they cheat with, and am also addicted to it, though I try to boot have ltrs and just spin.

I honestly love it because I know she's not mind, it's just my turn.

So why not?

lumberjackinla · 2016-05-19T17:14:44+00:00

Most people never change unless they work extra hard - Simple biology !!

Il128 · 2016-05-19T19:55:43+00:00

I need to just wait for September before I read this subreddit.

aanarchist · 2016-05-19T18:05:46+00:00

they cheat until their mid 30s and their options are dried up, then they talk about how they went to therapy and got better and are grateful for a loving patient husband yada yada. you know the drill

TheReformist94 · 2016-05-19T14:41:47+00:00

Most women cheat so most LTRs are fucked.monogamy is dead,so yeh I'd say theory and obersavtion match.don't know where this sub got the idea men are the gate holders of commitment because women don't want it and have demonstrated they aren't suited for LTRs of any kind

Cheating Is An Addiction

A Cheater Never Stops

Lessons Learned

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Title	Cheating Is An Addiction
Author	Clint_Redwood
Upvotes	180
Comments	150
Date	May 19, 2016 2:32 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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