Depressed after finding TRP

Telekineticx · 2017-06-23T07:31:26+00:00

You shouldn't be depressed, you should be elated. I don't agree with everything I read on this sub, and I don't particularly care for f***ing many women or partying or anything, but this sub does preach many truths about the nature of being a male in this world. It's a refreshing amount of sober thought and cold analysis. It will make you feel better eventually, it will allow you to make sense of every behavior you see out there.

Start lifting iron, work on yourself, become a better human being. Never be a doormat for anyone, least of all a woman. Like Future said, chase a check, not a bitch.

SirKolbath · 2017-06-23T05:51:10+00:00

I think it's natural to feel depressed at first, but I think the moment you grab your life by its balls and squeeze that depression is going to go away.

In my experience, it was reached by anger. Use that. It helps with monk mode. It helps you get in the right IDGAF mindset. It helps you realize that reaching your own potential has fuck all to do with any woman.

It's a mountain, and we climb it every day. But at least now we climb it together.

PaperStreetVilla · 2017-06-23T14:36:56+00:00

Stop engaging in learned helplessnes. Get mad, go take it out on the iron, and then get to work on learning game and self respect.

Monk mode as you say it will not work. Taking your toys and going home isn't a strategy, it's a coping mechanism.

Just get to work, stay engaged, and practice, fuckup, learn, and repeat.

Make the weekly improvement thread your goto, each week. every week. It's still new, but as more guys get in there, more guys who can offer help and guidance will be there giving their help as well.

As you will, when someone hits on your area of expertise.

Forget about your feelings, you need to get to work

Thotwrecker · 2017-06-23T07:39:50+00:00

Why would you be depressed? You can actually change the way you are. Before TRP you thought you were just going to be that way forever, always being a passive scared little permission boy around women. That is a depressing thought.

But having a shot at something better? At 22 when you haven't fucked your life up yet?

Forgive yourself for being a BP. But if you do engage in behaviors that you now know are wrong... do not cut yourself slack on that. To do that is to waste the gift of enlightenment. If you've acquired wisdom, it will just torture you all day in your brain mulling about with no outlet to apply itself towards. You have to apply what you've learned here, or yeah, you will get depressed.

Depression is essentially the state of overthinking. Don't over think this, you don't need to know much to succeed. There is something to be said for discovering TRP ideas on your own in the real world. You can always tell the posters who are just writing about stuff they learned on TRP. Take a little bit of wisdom from here and go, get off the internet, you should be too busy lifting, talking to women, developing attractive hobbies, and getting mentally used to the concept of treating women like hormonal teenagers. (That is really hard for betas to do even though they conceptually understand why they are supposed to).

You don't need to go monk, you need to engage with the world more. Monk mode ideas are great, but reading TRP and manosphere theory all day isn't going to get you out of this state.

MisfitPL9 · 2017-06-23T05:56:50+00:00

Welcome mate. Sidebar ,relevant reading and LIFTING are your best friend.

DarkuSchneider · 2017-06-23T11:03:59+00:00

This is why the red pill is often bitter sweet. You are free from one peril but thrust into an unknown one. The bitterest pill is realizing your truth was a lie or you were not good enough or both. It is an assault on a persons core paradigm which never takes change pleasantly because its a core part of your identity/ego. Read the sidebar and find a book called "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and brace yourself for a few more bitter pills and familiarize yourself with the stages of grief. Do not let yourself get in another negative mental trap by paying too much credence to the anger or ribbing vented here. It is not an incubator of hatred but more like a trauma ward sometimes and a gym other times. If you can hold down the bitter pills the worst is over then you get to enjoy freedom and the clarity to pursue whatever it is you seek in life. Attitude is key because you make your reality. If you paint yourself a victim you will be depressed and angry instead of focused and driven to achieve. Try to cultivate a positive attitude even in the face of chaos.

Next will come the infamous anger phase. Do your best to not project that anger onto others especially women it's a counterproductive waste of time at best or a life ruining event at the worst. Do not project the anger onto yourself and hate on yourself and think you are blue pill/beta/bitch and dig yourself into a real hole of depression. Instead take that anger and use it as the fuel to build the life you want because you are so young you have many chances to change the course of your life and the sooner you do it the better it gets later. As some say here take that anger out at the temple of iron and lift. Lifting is not about becoming a muscle bro it's about self discipline, overcoming discomfort, and training physical and emotional durability aka frame that will serve you well in all aspects of life not just women. It generates natural testosterone which in men is in deficit according to the CDC and essential to health and mental focus.

Good luck man and remember life is a work in progress until your last breath and there is always a path forward, finding it is part of life's adventures.

wheel_ · 2017-06-23T12:10:27+00:00

Awareness is the first step. Welcome to TRP. As many have said, read up the sidebar over and over again.

From some of the words in your post, I'll tell you, though:

Never be an asshole. Some people mistake TRP promoting asshole or arrogant behaviors, which is a misconception. Always be a gentleman (being a gentleman does not mean be a pushover, though).

Being a gentleman is something I recently found out I gotta work on.

"Girls just wanna have fun." So should you.
Even after taking the pill, you'll get a few L's in the way. Never regret making a mistake cause you learn from it. However, if you make that same mistake twice, stop and find out what you're doing wrong.
Don't ever hate women. Why are you going to hate what you are trying to be successful with? Girls are real fun to be with (and I don't mean it in a sexual way).
Going monk doesn't mean going hermit. Keep that in mind.
Make sure to yourself that your current oneitis is the last one you're ever going to get. Ever.

Enjoy.

MattyAnon · 2017-06-23T12:34:34+00:00

'respected' them a lot and each and every time got stuck in the friend zone no matter how sweet, funny, or wonderful they say I am.

You have to choose with women: do you want to friend them or fuck them. They will direct you towards friends (with approval and lies about her own virtue), so she can have as many orbiters as possible.

The girls that knew I was all about them just used me for attention, and disrespected me because I behave in a way that isn't 'manly'. 110% bluepill.

No, they disrespect you because you are not being true to yourself. They are joining in with YOUR disrespect of yourself. Don't pretend it's because you're not being "manly / RP". You put yourself second, they followed your lead.

I do feel shitty right now. I have to turn away my oneitis the next time she contacts me, which will shock her. But feeling shitty is part of the progress. It's time to go monk for a while.

It's time for some deep level identity change.

You have invested in the BP world, believed its lies, and then got hurt. It's a system designed to exploit you for the benefit of everyone else.

And people BELIEVE in the system - as you did. Even women believe in it - so much so that she knows how much she has to lie to maintain her part in the system.

OP, You wanted sex with girls, you still do. Now you know how they operate and are on a path to getting what you want.

2017-06-23T07:03:01+00:00

Step 1: ditch the emotional baggage.

No point punishing yourself for past mistakes and indiscretions when you've recognised you need to move on and do better.

When it comes to mistakes; learn 'em and burn 'em mate.

Psychocist · 2017-06-23T12:28:08+00:00

You'll be fine! Be thankful you found this place so young.

It's easy to become depressed when your worldview is shattered, but understand this - the worldview you now construct will be based on TRUTH and REALITY. Dedicate yourself to that every step, no matter how painful it is to look at.

My advice: be 100% selfish for a while, learn who you are and what makes you happy, discover what is holding you back and deal with it head on, exercise/eat well/sleep well, work on your relationship with yourself first, and invest in yourself every day.

The last part is crucial. The more you invest in yourself, the more importance you put in your own opinions and reality vs other people's -- it helps you overcome a lot of crap around you.

zeeohsixer · 2017-06-23T14:36:24+00:00

Sad & depressed?!!! My man, now is the time to rejoice. You have literally found a goldmine @ age 22.

dick_fox · 2017-06-23T14:39:37+00:00

You're 22... welcome to the rest of your life bro. You have years before you even enter your prime. Start lifting, start reading as much as possible, start approaching women with this new mindset and whatever you do, don't apologize to yourself for "missed opportunities". That's ridiculous and pointless. You got the next day to get better. You're going to fuck up a lot, but it's only going to make you stronger.

the-capitan · 2017-06-23T11:37:00+00:00

the deeper you get into redpill, the crazier it gets. not saying this to brag, but to demonstrate that TRP is so correct.

i'm almost 2 years in, and after the first 6 months, i've consistently have kept a harem of 5-10 plates. one of my current plates is this 23 year old fox (i'm mid 30s). she openly says she hates me, but is so attracted to me and doesn't know why. we fuck multiple times a week and she's into full-on sex slave BDSM. the other day she said... and i shit you not... when she's in a relationship, she can never fuck her boyfriends like the way we fuck.

purplecabbage · 2017-06-23T15:47:15+00:00

Dude, you're 22. I found TRP when I was 41. You want to talk about depressed and irritated? Lol. Work on self improvement and you'll crawl back to manliness. I'm enjoying the fruits now at 44 big time. My game is way way better, and I have much more self worth. Exit your comfort zone.

red-arctic-tern · 2017-06-23T07:08:55+00:00

Welcome to TRP. Start improving so you may conquer.

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2017-06-23T11:08:13+00:00

Firstly Welcome,

For your Friend - Search Youtube for Richard de le runa friend zone

Next start Lifting NOW

Next start Reading NOW

Just search this subreddit for books - Start with the book of pook and the rational male

mdcrubengonza · 2017-06-23T14:33:03+00:00

First depression sets in, then anger, then enlightenment.

redpillrobby · 2017-06-23T15:34:56+00:00

"It's time to go monk for a while."

I will never understand why people do this.

2017-06-23T18:04:38+00:00

Honesty, charm, and generally being a decent person actually are good qualities to have and they can help you get laid. They're basic qualities that are necessary for cultivating a social bond with others whether it's platonic friendship or romantic involvement. Guys don't get laid by insulting women, being overly aloof, or deceiving themselves into thinking they deserve better or something (I mean you might if she's a trash bag, but lots of guys do this shit to protect their ego). Even the so called "asshole chads" you hear about have some level of honesty and charm in their personalities. Chicks just call them assholes cause they live the lifestyle of a player and get jealous about it.

Your problem is you're just a timid guy. It's okay. It's natural and really one of the stepping stones one crosses in their progress toward becoming a well adjusted guy. Just have faith in your ability to comprehend, learn, and grow from situations and you'll surpass it someday.

Think of it this way.. You're in 3rd grade and it's math class. What are you doing in 3rd grade math? Multiplication, division, fractions, decimals etc.. You don't do algebra or calculus in 3rd grade math because you don't have the mental tools to solve those problems yet. What you're essentially doing right now is beating yourself up for not being able to do algebra and calculus when you're in 3rd grade math class. One step at a time.

Don't beat yourself up. Focus on small daily achievements so you can progress toward becoming a better quality man. Spend an hour or two a day at the gym/exercising. An hour or two reading a book or studying a subject that interests you. Make some time to socialize with your peers and go out to chase some skirts. Check out some fashion blogs or walk around a trendy hip area and take notes on clothing and hairstyles.

After a while of lifting, better grooming, and dressing better.. Honestly chicks might start approaching you first. After about a month or two you'll notice a spike in female attention. This reward alone should be enough for you to invest in yourself.

Also remember, nothing worth anything comes easy. It always takes lots of practice, patience, and dedication.

Ether_Freeth · 2017-06-23T15:28:20+00:00

A stated by others. Fuck feeling sad and wallowing in it.

I understand this all feels like a shit show. You have lied to yourself ,everyone else had lied to you and they l all applauded your lies. And this should get you MAD not sad. This should get you to find something to unleash that anger on. Whether that is ranting, lamenting or hitting the weights. Going monk now is just hiding, it's just your conditioned flight response that the world and you yourself taught you to be manageable and not break the status quo.

Point is if you want to change for the better you should not hide. Least of all from yourself. Experience all the emotions that come from learning the truth and use them as a pyre to burn your old self on. And create who you want to be, who makes you happy.

People will hate you for changing, you will stumble and fall along the road. But no one can stop you from becoming the best you but you. And as long as you get up dust yourself of and continue on after you fall you willget ever closer to that goal.

Good luck and enjoy the ride.

marcomuskus · 2017-06-23T15:28:46+00:00

This sums it all: "It's time to go monk for a while."

KillerKitsune · 2017-06-23T15:43:13+00:00

Respectfully, while 'monk-mode' is no way to live a life, a prolonged bout of it is a great way to embark upon some specific improvements of self (mental or physical).

broncosace · 2017-06-23T15:47:51+00:00

Your feelings are irrelevant. Get over it.

Kimjungwho · 2017-06-23T15:51:35+00:00

Holy shit lol. I just discovered this thread but.... lol. Dude at the least she was nice about her rejection. If she's not sexually attracted to you at first she's not going to be, unless you can spit flames like a Greek god or you're loadeddddd. You're not the only one being "respectable"; she prolly got like 999999999 other niggas doing the same thing. Remember the world Doesn't exist in a vacuum with you in the center. Shape up, take the L and find someone else. Have more self respect man, the confidence and success will follow.

SilverGryphon · 2017-06-23T16:16:52+00:00

The depression part is the bitterness of the pill, after a while you'll learn to like the taste. From some it's more bitter than usual. But don't worry, it will fade off over time. Monk mode for a while can help but try not to stay there too long like I did.

By making the realization that being nice to women gets you nowhere is already a good step. Don't go total asshole as they will still be pushed away. Being assertive, having set boundaries and wit of the tongue is the way to go at first.

allrandomworldnews · 2017-06-23T16:22:51+00:00

Go built some confidence in the iron temple while developing a healthy amount of disgust for your previous behaviour by reading this site.

obliviousfool93 · 2017-06-23T16:23:20+00:00

Ok, dude. Take this with a grain of salt, but I'd give anything to have discovered these things at age 22. I'm in my late 30's, fresh off a divorce, see my kids half-time, and have PTSD from being married to a psycho for a decade (a psycho with whom I still have to coparent, mind you). My wife had an affair with a coworker and left me a sad, resentful wreck. I cried on the floor begging her to stay. I took my anger out in ways that I never once thought I was even capable of. I was a "really nice guy" after all. I discovered this sub, and while I don't agree with all of it, it's making a world of difference in my life. I can NOT tell you the feeling of satisfaction I felt when I hard nexted my ex-wife and she came to my door, begging me to take her back, when my 24 year old attractive plate came down the stairs (the ex is also late 30s), and I got to tell the ex to get the hell off my property before I called the cops. Finding my backbone, being a man, and never being anyone's doormat ever again has made a difference in my life that I can't even describe. So, yeah, you can feel depressed now, but let it fuel you. Take control of your life at this young age. Don't be the sad, blue pill weakling that I was a year ago. Be a man. Take charge.

writewhereileftoff · 2017-06-23T16:33:52+00:00

You should feel absolutely extatic. You just found the blueprint to turn your life around and take matters into your own hands. And at a young age too. You're lucky!!! Some guys live their whole life without this knowledge. And yet here it is completely at your fingertips...I'm excited in your place. Fucking study and apply this shit religiously!

Zohso · 2017-06-23T16:54:19+00:00

Rule one: Women have no clue what they want.

Rule two: That's our job.

Takeaway/Lesson: Be yourself, be strong/confident in yourself, don't be an asshole, take charge.

Neutral_User_Name · 2017-06-23T16:57:56+00:00

22 y-o and red-pilled? Rejoice mate! That is fantastic. I wish I did at your age, I would give anything to go back.

titwhiskey · 2017-06-23T17:01:03+00:00

I think many of us have experienced what you are going through when we first lifted the veil and will agree that it is perfectly normal.

Embrace the rage you feel. It shows you are not okay with the status quo and it will fuel the progress you need to make.

Keep this in mind, emotions are temporary, dont give them more attention than needed.

VickVaseline · 2017-06-23T17:31:54+00:00

You have absolutely nothing to be depressed about. You are 22. I didn't find TRP until I was 55.

adultingisfun · 2017-06-23T18:32:06+00:00

The first step to being a better man, is to submit to the truth and then acting accordingly.

asktrpretard · 2017-06-23T18:34:31+00:00

If you haven't listen to the Black Phillip Show (Patrice O Neal) although it sounds like you already have. Beyond that focus on yourself. Women serve as reflections of us, so any time you focus on them understand it leads back to you.

sh0ckley · 2017-06-23T18:51:47+00:00

Come on bro.

Truth hurts but you know what I would give to have known this shit at your age?

Carpe fucking diem.

JokerChaos77 · 2017-06-24T00:49:47+00:00

You just swallowed a nasty red pill mate. Now you're depressed, next thing you will be pissed off and you will absolutely hate every female being. We've all been there, done that. Red pill rage is pretty nasty and it never really goes away. But don't fret. This hate will be your most powerful weapon. It will allow you to become the person you could only dream of before. You will learn that you can't trust anybody, especially women. Work only for and by yourself. You are on your own. Good news is, heartbreak, betrayal and all those emotions won't break you ever again. You will become stronger and you will be better than everyone around you, you can now see things that few can, and you can use this to your advantage.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-06-23T13:01:15+00:00

It gets worse.

You must go through the Anger Phase where you become emotionally aroused about the fact the Blue Pill mythology has literally fucked up your brain ever since you were born.

You got fucked over by the Blue Pill.

...but we all were, so you are with people who understand.

zZacharyChad · 2017-06-23T17:17:49+00:00

Lift, get some tatts, and some nice threads. Make yourself presentable, look good. Let go. Speak your mind, firmly with no apologies. Tell your oneitis that you'll hang out if she blows you. Laugh in her face. 0 love for these hoes.

worktillyouburk · 2017-06-23T14:40:17+00:00

learn and live man, you dont have a kid yet so you can be free to enjoy life and live it like a man!

Title	Depressed after finding TRP
Author	tomas_pz
Upvotes	193
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Date	June 23, 2017 5:43 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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