Let her feel smart. Use your intelligence to create better questions, not smarter statements.

Foctopus · 2015-12-25T16:56:42+00:00

Don't just do this with girls, do this with everyone. I have mild aspergers, and so I have a natural urge to correct any inaccurate information, a long time ago I learned to lead people to a conclusion instead of pushing them too it. It's been years since then, and all though my goal was to find more effective ways of getting people to understand, it also makes people think you are intelligent or wise, but not in a showoffy way. Which helps me a lot because I used to accidently step on people when I didn't mean it if you know what I mean.

Archwinger · 2015-12-26T01:42:15+00:00

There's a fine line here that needs to be watched carefully.

If you ask an obviously stupid question just to further the conversation, that costs you big-time. If your attempt is transparent, you look like you're sucking up and desperate for this girl's continued attention.

If a girl isn't already attracted to you, asking a question that gets it wrong can blow it. She doesn't know you're giving her a chance to shine. She thinks you really don't know something and she is therefore superior to you in some aspect and must educate you. Girls don't want to be superior to the guys they're fucking.

However, if she's already attracted to you, introducing a very deliberate, trivial chink in the armor that is carefully crafted to give a woman a specific opportunity to demonstrate her value and feel good about herself can turn a mundane interaction into one that she remembers as very, very favorable. Women love talking about themselves and demonstrating what they know, so by giving them that opportunity, they'll feel better about the conversation afterward.

MentORPHEUS · 2015-12-25T23:11:02+00:00

Pitch a softball question and let her enjoy taking a swing.

This is a good way to open conversation, especially in a sea of PUAs who open with negging etc.

Unless you don't want to filter out the pure narcissists, and don't mind being pigeonholed in the chaste "Nice Guy" category from the get-go, you'll want to throw down some manner of conversational challenge earlier rather than later in the interaction. You can keep it light and pleasant, but push-pull escalates her emotions in the direction you want far more reliably than all-pull.

Source: Was once that 100% nice guy that would always make some other lucky girl so happy someday.

icecow · 2015-12-25T22:28:54+00:00

The book 'The Chrisma Myth' has been mentioned many times lately and is a good one. It's also available in audible format.

Moneyley · 2015-12-25T22:43:35+00:00

This is a great strategy to impose you control by not caring so much. I've noticed that women who tell me that they have a "great connection" with me on dates, also are the ones that talk the most during the date. In contrast, I notice that on the dates where I do at least half of the talking, I usually don't get a second. Women love "hypotheticals" so what works for me is bringing up religion, diet and basically all the shit that you've been told "NOT" to say. Me: you should eat like a pig because studies show that you should eat on dates how you eat at home so you can be comfortable. So eat away pig. (Big smile)

This usually leads to diet topics, where you ask for her view and SHUT UP. I bring up how diet is important for a woman who wants kids. (Do I want kids? Fuck no) but women are wired to have them. Now you've subtly turned the conversation to HER trying to prove she isn't like that. She'll talk more now.. Also, you've brought up kids, in order to have kids she needs to have sex. Make another controversial statement on: gender roles, pick on her, talk about going dutch with the bill so you can have money to pick up a bottle of wine after dinner, you know... To make the conversation more...intense. As OP said make her "FEEL" smart, she'll "FEEL" such a good connection.

[deleted] · 2015-12-25T23:40:12+00:00

Works like a charm. I use it with new C.S. graduates I meet, they love to talk. When they ask me what I work with, sometimes I'll respond by asking their favorite language or what they work with without even attempting to answer. Warms them up plenty, sometimes they loop back and ask again, and I am then much better able to speak in their terms and on their level as I sense it, so it works great to help calibrate as well. It could be thought of as a pressure-flip style response, in PUA terms.

fcjnews · 2015-12-26T04:39:29+00:00

How is this any different than typical blue pill advice? First thing most pua's, red or blue pill ones, is stop asking so many damn questions and practice talking in statements. Very few guys have the problem of not asking enough questions.

Stythe · 2015-12-25T23:06:07+00:00

Good advice. One of the best skills a leader can have is the ability to get others to form their own opinions and learn to answer their own questions. Most people just want to showboat and look cool. The really cool people are too busy being cool and making you feel good around them to need to show off. Using this strategy is a good way to make people feel more confident about themselves as well as a way to get them to trust you.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-12-26T04:41:10+00:00

Caution

This trends dangerously close to beta orbiting behavior.

While I agree that communication requires that you give each other space to answer and that if you are stronger mentally than the other you need to give "partial truths" to build them upwards from wherever they start. But you do not want to flatter a woman who is already seeing herself as a princess.

Do not put the woman on a pedestal.

Also awaken to the fact the OP seems to have not fucked this girl (no mention) so the "missing ending" speaks volumes about how this really worked out. What was "passionate" in the beta orbiters imagination might have been nothing to the woman.

The "true story" is this girl probably fucked Chad Thundercock later that night, not the OP.

pedler · 2015-12-26T03:01:48+00:00

Yes this works. It makes the conversation predictable. The other person think they are one step ahead, but they're not because you're actually two steps ahead. Its also good practice for being a listener. Everyone likes a good listener, and you can learn something new about either the person or the topic by subtly lead in the conversation.

Its something that i think i started learning when i started teaching English. I became able to suppress the urge to blurt it out, let others say what they want. Remember people like you if they feel good around you, not if you feed them facts. Its all related to getting people to open up to you, it takes self moderation, and unless you are a really good actor you need a genuine interest in the conversation.

HungryLikeTheWolf99 · 2015-12-26T07:55:24+00:00

Sounds a bit like some of Robert Greene's Art of Seduction. Some of that book is outright bullshit, but this is not.

Anonartist · 2015-12-26T17:38:55+00:00

Same with sales, ask questions where you assume the positive qualities on the prospect and let them live them out. "How many more do you expect to sell this month?" "What new target markets are you hitting?" "Who kisses better, guys or girls?" "What skill are you mastering?" "Best scar or broken bone story?"

I always go for sex positive, progressing, empowering, intelligence based, fun seeking questions. Make the dream prospect in your head for whatever you're going for, and ask questions like it's an everyday thing to have those amazing qualities happen for them.

Asking empowering questions means in their head that you ask these things all the time to others. And that means you're a success and empowerment-seeking person with other empowering people and qualities around you.

My favorite question, "what's the weird awesome thing you love that I would never guess you'd be into?"

LukeMooney · 2015-12-26T21:49:46+00:00

Nice idea OP - really like it. Short and sweet advice, and something we all do sometimes - your way is really cool - thank you . Please give more insightful posts in future!

NickCiufi · 2015-12-26T22:01:05+00:00

Law 21: Play a Sucker to Catch a Sucker - Seem Dumber than your Mark.

MetalliMunk · 2015-12-27T00:48:45+00:00

I have read about this concept called the Swiveling Spotlight. The basic idea is that you try to put the focus (light) on them about 80% of the time and 20% on yourself. For example, in conversation you would ask them about their opinion on a subject, or compliment them on a thought/action. Ever since I heard about this, I have noticed in most conversations that people tend to talk about themselves, as in their own opinions/stories/thoughts, and rarely ever digging into another person's comments or giving praise.

redwurst · 2015-12-26T16:34:38+00:00

Bulding rapport with people, two steps.

1) Be very well read and capable of talking about wide range of topics.

No cheating here, you have to be passionate about reading and finding out about new things. Let your intelligence explore the world.

2) Be eager to let the other person shine*. Make others feel smart and be intelligent guidance through conversation.

*while NOT appearing needy

This can be faked but it is lot easier and better if you actually are interested in other person.

3) Exceptions

Learn to recognize persons who want to shine, and separate them from emotional vampires and narcissists who want to dominate you, get your shields up, flip the script and fuck them up or leave.

zezozio · 2015-12-25T22:55:29+00:00

WTF is it seddit or TRP ?

Did this kept the tingles in her eyes when she was naked on her knees eating at your dick like a famished ethiopian ?

How did you made the hamster spin from "I'm sooo smart" to "I'll be a dirty slut for that man"?

Merica911 · 2015-12-26T04:03:43+00:00

I love this post! Give credit where credit is due. Regardless of the gender, if someone is a professional in their field, they're a professional in their field. She's a psychologist? She must of worked super hard to even hold that position, regardless if she's a good one or not. TRP states that men does any job in this world besides birthing a child, better than a female, but that doesn't mean because Joe Blow does construction is going to know psychology better than Susan that graduated with a M.A. degree.

TRP teaches you that it's fine if you don't know someone. Best this you can do to contribute to the conversation is listen.

B_Rawb · 2015-12-25T21:49:11+00:00

That advice has nothing to do with red pill theory. How does it link to hypergamy? SMV?

Ill tell you: raising her self-perceived SMV is the best way to shut down the tingles. Just like depreciating yourself, or complimenting her, anything that leads to lowering your SMV compared to hers makes you a less viable sexual candidate, as per her hypergamous impulses. Only do it if your SMV is so much higher than hers that she is ALREADY dying to sleep with you, so that you can afford trading a bit of that SMV differential for emotional connection (like passing comfort tests). If not, that is a sure fire way to get yourself categorized as beta bucks, prepare yourself to hear "I like talking with you, I really value your friendship, you understand me so much better than those jerks I keep dating".

edit: keep those downvotes coming. Couldn't care less for the opinion of the newbies here who haven't done their basic redpill reading

sir_wankalot_here · 2015-12-25T20:11:17+00:00

Did you actually get laid with the chick ? Or are you her emotional tampon ? In my experience getting laid and selling something are two different things. Or does this method only work with really stupid chicks who need an ego boost ?

Pretty much every time I got laid, it involved me being an asshole, so in your example I would have explained why her diagnosis is wrong, and done it in such a way that she is humiliated.

smoothhands · 2015-12-26T03:34:55+00:00

LOL the OP is so stupid, this is pointless manipulation

He could have asked a question he wanted to know the answer of instead

epixs · 2015-12-26T14:51:51+00:00

I'd rather talk in statements and proceed from there. Asking too many questions to a girl and just letting her talk is one way ticket to "your such a good listener and friend". She won't fuck you, trust me.

However, if you open with statements, tease her like a child, and reward her with brief moments of your undivided attention where she has a chance to talk about herself in a way where you actively listen, then thats fine.

This advice is great for networking however, where you are not trying to fuck the other person lol. Dale Carnegie talks about this a lot in his book and it is very great advice, just not for the women you're trying to fuck.

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