Manipulative container words and you

AWorseManThanYou · 2019-04-29T18:45:30+00:00

Tl;dr (as I understand it) people use symbolic language to encapsulate a collection of ideas and feelings about the ideas.

Blue pill stuffs their symbolic language with more emotion than fact. They use symbolic language as vehicles for moral outrage by stuffing “outraging” facts and feelings in them.

Red pill packs facts more than emotions. We argue about what should and should not by symbolized in any given word.

Feminine thinking is about invalidating all the meanings behind symbolic language because one or two things associated with that word offend them. This is blue pill and manipulative.

For red pill men this type of thinking and arguing is ridiculous. If one thing underlying a symbolic word is offensive, we don’t invalidate everything just because it is associated with the same word.

More or less.

whatdidshewrite · 2019-04-29T16:47:56+00:00

Could you elaborate a bit more on “container words”? I don’t quite grasp the concept

FREECRACK6 · 2019-04-30T09:37:58+00:00

“Create an archetype, persona, or life script, which I condense into the term deep narrative; “

Can anyone point me to an article/video/anything that goes deeper into this?

EdmondDaunts · 2019-04-30T12:24:37+00:00

I used to do a lot of rock climbing outside. I’ve also had the opportunity to sail on an ocean in a small boat. One thing you learn quickly is Nature doesn’t give a fuck about your ego. That route you created on the rock face. Your planned route sailing by GPS.

But you also learn you need some sort of plan and discipline otherwise you have nothing.

Concentrating on the container rather than the bigger picture, the rough ballpark, always leads to disappointment and bitchiness.

As with all things build contingency and adapt.

Because like I said Nature could give two fucks about your semantics.

BurnoutRS · 2019-04-30T20:40:33+00:00

Without knowing the contents of someone elses mind, how does one come to understand the contents of their box?

What I gather from your post:

"People will compare you against an archetype to manipulate you into doing something"

Is this not an implicit comparison?

If you fail to take out the trash, and youre told that you're "irresponsible" and "not a real man" By a person who is attempting to get you to take out the trash... You are responding to the meaning you inferred from their words.

What is a real man? its an archetype, an ideal that cant truly be reached. People who tell you you arent a real man arent actually concerned with what a real man is or isnt, they just know that you are, and they can control you by implying you arent a real man.

I had a friend who started lifting and asked me for guidance. I gave him some pointers, wrote up a bit of quick reference info. I got a bit over zealous and started talking about supplementation and preworkouts a bit more in depth than I should have. Point being my friend started taking ephedrine before he even knew how to squat properly. When I questioned why he was taking ephedrine he got really defensive. Saying that it was mentioned in the sheets I gave him etc.

By your explanation my friend was "filling his box" with the notion that he was a bodybuilder now, bodybuilders take ephedrine, "this is my identity" and when I questioned his actions I undermined his confidence, threw my box at his...

Well yeah, ultimately my intention was to make him question why he was using a supplement that carries with it some risk, and as such shouldnt be used by complete beginners. To manipulate him into questioning and inevitably reversing his decision.

If my friend were not so dependant on looking to outside sources for validation, my questioning his using ephedrine would have been irrelevant. It is only because he was acting in accordance with the wishes of others, that he was dissatisfied when he perceived his actions to fall short of that which would please those around him.

if you know what you are doing is what you need to be doing, you will not let anyone bring you to question it. If someone has brought you to question it perhaps it is not what you need to be doing.

You must own what you do. If someone else calls you lazy, and you get up and go do something just to prove them wrong... you still arent doing anything for yourself. Vice versa if someone calls you lazy and theyre right, be greatful the world came and told you instead of leaving you to figure it out on your own.

If someone tells you that you arent "x" ask them to define "x" if they cant, obviously that person has no business telling you whether or not you are "x" as they havent any concept of what "x" is. If they can define it, and the list of descriptors ensues, then tell them that since they know so clearly what theyre looking for, they should have an easy time finding it.

iamanalterror_ · 2019-04-29T18:22:49+00:00

Stupid post titles, and you.

Title	Manipulative container words and you
Author	RStonePT
Upvotes	43
Comments	26
Date	April 29, 2019 4:33 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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