People Here Seek Way Too Much Validation from Women

friendlysociopathic · 2016-10-07T23:54:51+00:00

Because anyone still posting here regularly after several years is a failed example of TRP. Those who succeeded in improving themselves largely leave the subreddit, and certainly are not invested enough to constantly be posting new content here. The problem is that the bottom-tier of TRP posters who never got laid enough to stop caring have now been here long enough to claim seniority and preach their own brand of missing-the-point-pill to teenage boys.

I recommend exclusively reading the first 2 years of the sub, as everything of value was discussed during that time. All that's left now is an echo.

makechangegreatagain · 2016-10-07T17:40:41+00:00

I find that people who spend way too much time here are a bit over-obsessed with women and even just general social dynamics whether it's male to female romantic or some hierarchy of males.

All of this time people spend obsessing over this stuff, they could be spending ACTUALLY improving themselves. Working out, doing fun stuff you're interested in like skateboarding or playing pick up soccer, making friends (male and female friends) doing fun activities, studying for school, etc.. Most of the "naturals" I have met in my life don't sit on the computer dicking around as much as people here do (I am guilty of this myself). Guys who spend their days posting on FB tend to be a bit low quality too. They also don't worry about how they have to get their notch count higher and fuck sl00ts, or consider some chick's N-count. They just do what they want and what feels right. Sometimes that means gaming and hitting some strange pussy after a night out, or having a guys night in drinking beers, playing some texas hold 'em and watching baseball.

That all being said. I think a lot of posters here are coming from a place of total insecurity with themselves.. Again, myself included. This usually stems from some kind of fucked up childhood/family relations and/or some bad dating experiences on top of that. I have seen a lot of posters here express growing up with violent abusive fathers who constantly made them feel like dog shit, as well as naggy helicopter moms or something. Or some people come from really good backgrounds and are simply intolerant of the degeneracy they see around them.. Which is fine, but you have to accept it is what it is.. There's always gonna be sluts, criminals, gold diggers, girlfriend stealing chads, etc.. This isn't heaven where everything's perfect.. It's earth. The way Christian people explain this is this shit all happens cause adam and eve pissed god off by not listening to him about the apple in the tree, so they got cast out of his perfect garden and now have to deal with all this earthly mortal bullshit. So you might as well accept it.

Guys should do what they can to be attractive to women, but they shouldn't obsess over it and take fucking journal notes on what they did wrong every night they go out or something. You simply can't be attractive to every girl on earth and you're going to drive yourself mad trying to figure this out. That doesn't mean you have to go MGTOW either.. Just live life by what makes you happy and fulfilled with respect to unfortunate realities, like the fact that you have to make money somehow to live day to day in this world or that you might be 5'2" and that could be a deal breaker for some chicks. It is what it is.

Also, I think this notion of "friend zone" some people have and "men can't be friends with women" is really holding some guys back. I have a few female friends who are pretty cool. They're obviously in the AWALT boat but I still enjoy their company. Plus having female friends makes you more approachable in social contexts like bar/parties or whatever social scene you're a part of. The guys who say "hanging out with women you're not fucking is useless" are either total neck beards or meathead bros who are probably good looking, but social retards.

Mckallidon · 2016-10-07T17:33:29+00:00

So many ppl on here act like badasses when their entire life strategy is impressing women to impress each other. I've never heard of so many people trying so hard in my life. That's half their problem in the first place.

snakehayter · 2016-10-07T17:17:46+00:00

Agreed, ever since there has been a huge wave of horny teens and young adults joining the neomasculine communities, i keep seeing a rising civil war between MGTOW and guys who pursue women.

I find it really hypocritical to criticize SJWs and feminists for resorting to shaming tactics during debates, while I see guys in one breath telling betas to stop living with a gynocentric mindset, and then calling them worthless for not getting enough pussy.

AlanAmpersand1 · 2016-10-07T20:52:27+00:00

Can someone validate me plz? Thx.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-10-07T16:52:35+00:00

That's funny because the typical complaint is there are too many MGTOWs who don't care about women at all.

Which is it.... too much or too little?

Tscio · 2016-10-07T19:24:26+00:00

Old habits die hard.

Many men grew up with absent/weak fathers, and mostly female teachers. The people who decided if we were doing well or not in life were predominantly female. Seeking approval from others is a tough mindset to dispel, the extra value we've assigned to female approval doesn't make it any easier.

JohnnyRaz · 2016-10-07T19:26:36+00:00

Agreed. We should be more focused on being redpill with the world. Globalist tyranny running wild, white countries are being invaded and torn apart RIGHT NOW yet all our lives revolve around banging some whore at the bar.

If I had it my way we would all take it up a notch and instead of just "playing the game" or adapting / sexual strategy we would instead vow to CHANGE the game altogether because right now its poison.

Why play by someone elses rules when we have the power to change them?

TyrannyVengeance · 2016-10-07T20:13:28+00:00

I do have to say the OP does make some good points. However, some of the more "autistic spectrum" people on here have been extremely helped by this "try hard" attitude. For some "try hard" is a much better alternative than "suffer fucker since you don't understand". Which is what looks like you would have them do. Just my two cents.

SonsOfRome · 2016-10-07T19:53:50+00:00

This is where I feel the disconnect is between me and this sub, I could never care that much about what women think of me compared to some of the people around here. Theory is nice and all but I just like to lift and have good times with people I like while not giving a fuck about unnecessary drama

Theratpack89 · 2016-10-07T20:44:46+00:00

Seems like a lot of guys seek validation from other men.

RenaissanceMan79 · 2016-10-08T03:33:37+00:00

I just want her to shut up and spread her legs.

TIven_tux · 2016-10-07T17:00:56+00:00

You call it being validated by a woman, maybe their point of view is just that they see these things as signs of respect for the man.

Peter_B_Long · 2016-10-07T18:46:38+00:00

We should be concerned with how we treat ourselves, believe it.

lifeontheedge38 · 2016-10-07T18:50:28+00:00

I've learned to treat it like weather. When it's sunny, I go out and enjoy it. When it's raining, I avoid outside activities. I don't have much control over the weather besides physically moving. You don't have much control over female attention. The more you improve yourself, the more attention you will receive. Just enjoy the attention when it is there. Be a productive SOB when it's not

RedMoonAscendant · 2016-10-07T22:46:02+00:00

You're missing the point.

Getting women to pay attention to you and be subservient to you and give you sexual release and validation and love and all those things is icing.

The cake is you'll get all those things from everyone else around you, too. Including female, and male, co-workers, bosses, government workers, relatives.

The Red Pill has a selling point. A glossy cover. It's that you'll get good with women.

But it has an ulterior motive: to make you a man.

SkentyDooBabble · 2016-10-08T03:05:00+00:00

It feels good

I don't know what kind of deeper reason you're looking for

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-10-08T03:30:29+00:00

It's more about how I like to be treated in general I think. Personally I couldn't give two shits if I'm not getting laid for a couple of months or even a year. I'd rather be pussy starved then chained to one of the girls that tried to LTR me. That'd be just pure hell, any girl that ain't fun as a plate is definitely not worth being your girlfriend.

Whenever I do end up with a plate it's just a bonus to my life and I like it for what it is. Some guys are different and developed their entire sense of self around their success with girls. I can kind of relate. Personally I am my athletic and military successes and my well being is definitely influenced by how I end up doing in these areas. It's who I am as a person. These guys were just stupid enough to build their identity on top of something they can't control.

I promise you that nothing will confuse a woman more than a guy who just doesn't give a shit. Some of the most hilarious reactions came from women who fully expected me to drop the ball. Only for me to walk away, whistling into the sunset.

BoyWhoreWithASword · 2016-10-08T03:30:37+00:00

Actually the problem with those men isn't seeking validation. That's a natural human emotion based on biological drives instilled within us.

The problem is they aren't GETTING the validation. The solution to SEEKING validation is to GET that validation.

It's just like being broke doesn't really feel good. The solution isn't to stop caring about getting money. The solution is to get fucking money and stop being poor.

Some of you guys on TRP try too hard to be these stoic philosophical stalwarts. You take the stoicism too far.

Validation from women feels good. When bitches grab my muscular arms or feel my chest it feels good. When they complement my clothes or jewelry it feels good. When I'm grinding on random girls at the club it feels good. When I'm making out with a girl in front of her friends it feels good. When I'm walking home with her squeezing her ass it feels good. When she's in my room sucking on my dick it feels good. When I'm 6 inches deep with her face down and ass up on my bed while I'm bumping Danny Brown in my room it feels good. When I send her ass home in an uber and she texts me the next morning it feels good.

If the problem is a LACK of validation then fix the fucking problem. Don't ignore it and pretend like you don't need it. Maybe you don't but I do and I think it's healthy to do so.

Boeing797-300ER · 2016-10-08T11:07:56+00:00

I give a shit because female validation=everything as a male. I don't want to hear a wall of coping about "hobbies" or other retarded shit. Getting your dick wet and experiencing the primitive validation of having your DNA valued is what our brains are wired to feel good about.

PragmaticRedTruth · 2016-10-07T17:15:18+00:00

For starters, this community typically embraces questions like this instead of hiding from them. So I will give this an honest shot.

Why does a woman's attention have so much value to you?

You've phrased the question from a point of view which misunderstands the foundation of many beliefs here.

Speaking for myself, women and their attention don't matter as much as self actualization.

But, if I have people in my life, man or woman, I would like to have power over them. This is the key. So, if you asked me, "Why do you want power over others?" Well, now that's a question I can answer.

In almost every relationship, there is a victim and an aggressor. None of my relationships have me as a victim. I hold myself with high regard, and I have huge amounts of self respect. So when people, men and women, are in my life, I expect to be treated with self respect. Do I not deserve this? Am I not elite? Well if I don't believe so, then, I don't deserve it. However, I believe I am elite and do expect those around me to treat me as such.

I will respect a woman, and create a boundary, depending on how she has treated me. In this day and age, during the matriarchy, she's going to have to do a hell of a lot more than bake me some cupcakes. And guess what? I've had it happen, people, women, bend over backwards for me. Thus, why would I settle for less?

At the end of the day, if you're the beta bucks, you're going to get taken for all your worth. And when you know that women are devious, narcissistic, and are hypergamous, you know this is a losing game. You need to carve out a place for her in your life. If you lose her respect, you lose her attraction. You need to polarize, have her walk into your frame, or not at all. You risk losing self respect and valuable minutes of your life otherwise. You obviously don't understand the dynamic of society today, that's your problem.

Oz70NYC · 2016-10-07T19:15:17+00:00

I walk my own path and seek validation from no one; man, woman or child. If you don't accept me as I am...fuck you. Because I'm not bending over backwards to change for anyone. Wolves don't care about what the sheep think of them.

DysfunctionalBrother · 2016-10-07T18:31:12+00:00

The fact of the matter is that the only validation that is worth shit is from masculine men who you call your bros in the form of respect. Validation from women is good if she genuinly means it and is a sign she is going to open her legs for you to fuck her. The sign itself is all that really matters, if you know your the shit you don't really need people to tell you. If your chasing that validation for her to say "Aww, good doggie, good doggie" Then you might be fucking up and need to check yourself. In fact that goes for anyone, don't chase validation from anyone you will waste energy and end up resenting yourself for it.

Although what i would say is that girl is not doing shit for free, she gets to put her mouth on the dick of an alpha male, she gets to feel lots of the tingles and emotions she wants to feel, something she would not feel from a blue pill beta.

What do you mean by "feeling like the man"? Being validated by women is not feeling like a man, feeling like a man is doing and conquering shit. If you want to be validated by women be a beta, they get plenty of validation for how they are such nice guys and how one day they will find a girl who will love them. How absurd. The only validation that matters from a woman is sex.

[deleted] · 2016-10-07T23:54:19+00:00

you know what you're fucking right. for all the shit about "blue pill" being pansies and simps, this entire sub is about how to please baby making machines. how to act, look, talk, etc etc to make pussies tingle. that is at least somewhat pathetic.

nodoxsavefreespeech · 2016-10-07T18:09:39+00:00

It sounds as if you're too focused on the noise as opposed to the signal.

185poundsofhatredWIP · 2016-10-07T17:10:04+00:00

Getting to nut on her face is a form of validation. If you get no validation of any kind whatsoever, you're not going to satisfy your urge to have sex with women, unless you want to be a rapist.

Being percieved as attractive feels good.

Title	People Here Seek Way Too Much Validation from Women
Author	Tweakfix
Upvotes	220
Comments	116
Date	October 7, 2016 4:46 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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