Seducing a woman with a bf - Quick pointers

iKill_eu · 2013-06-27T22:10:10+00:00

a bf who isn't paying 100% attention to her and making her feel like a special snowflake = free pussy

not exactly true

bf not making her feel like she's with a high value mate = free pussy. this doesn't mean being her lapdog and putting her on a pedestal, it means entertaining her and making sure she knows you're better than the rabble.

just my 2c ofc.

effwhyeye · 2013-06-28T02:29:11+00:00

woah, contentious thread here. I'm sure this is making the rounds throughout the feminist subreddits as I type, and I feel as though this topic (cheating enabling) is just about the only legitimate argument against TRP, so I feel like sharing my thoughts.

first of all, no matter how off-putting you may find zionController's demeanor, it's abundantly clear that this girl is looking for trouble from the start. I've gotten these same texts from girls in relationships out of the blue, and if you have any doubts as to what they mean, this girl spells it right out for you: "Maybe I just need some male attention." so this is, for me, a moral dilemma because this girl is texting you hoping for you to pull the right moves to get you and her fucking, and if you fail to do so, you will have let her down and in the process emasculated yourself to some degree. maybe you'll feel morally superior for it, and maybe next time she's looking for some male attention she'll text your buddy Alpha Andy instead. are you okay with that?

second, any man in this subreddit can to some degree empathize with the boyfriend being cheated on. some of us have been there ourselves. it's one of the worst feelings a man can experience, and part of that is the realization that your understanding of love and dating is incomplete. for me, seeing a girl I pined for ultimately go back to both of her abusive ex's instead of starting a relationship with comfortable old me was the catalyst I needed to take control of my life and my emotions and start truly living. my life took a 90-degree turn for the better and I shudder to think of the man I'd be now had I not experienced that lesson for myself.

do I really think this chick's bf is going to look back on this moment and think, "gee, I'm so thankful zionController fucked my girlfriend rawdog, took her ass, and nutted on her face that misty June night"? no. from the way this girl describes him it sounds like he might not even give a shit. but I place absolutely no blame on zion for taking control of the situation presented to him. zion owes this girl's boyfriend nothing, just like the chick I pined for's ex's owed me nothing.

the sexual marketplace is a coldly indifferent beast, and the only way to come out winning is to take a sort of buddhist approach the whole thing and recognize that nobody owes you anything, and that you can't count on a woman to do anything but be a woman.

magafish · 2013-06-27T22:35:24+00:00

IOI is not in the glossary, what is that?

lord-denning · 2013-06-28T03:08:22+00:00

Gents, I'm a newcomer but am surprised by some of the critical comments here. OP is simply describing hypergamy in action. What each of us decides to do with this knowledge is up to each of us as men. TRP describes reality, it does not judge people.

I have questions on two areas: getting fit and text game. Zion, have you shared your health and diet regimen in the past? Any tips for the out-of-shape?

The seddit forums from where many of us came often deny that text game can work and suggest that texts should just be used to set up a meet. I would be interested in hearing the opposing view if there is one. (Perhaps this belongs in it's own post). Thanks

redpillschool · 2013-06-27T23:37:54+00:00

Let's leave this stuff in the seduction subreddit, shall we? The whole thread reeks of cheese and really brings nothing to the red pill table.

CodeineCowboy · 2013-07-03T08:39:51+00:00

Oh boy, reading this from you is making fucking my best friend seem comically easy. She's been telling me for at least a year now that her boyfriend isn't fucking her, of course, I was mangina'd at that point and didn't find her attractive, so I offered a bit of worthless, ":/ meh that sucks." I saw her a few months back after close to a year of not seeing her, and she has lost all her excess weight and looks very poke-able now, we both gave eachother a good look-over when I got there and she got really bashful around me (very odd for a girl I had been buddies with for years) the whole time I was visiting.

Now she's always hitting me up like an ex-girlfriend about coming back into town and visiting her and I know she's just asking for it because her boyfriend is fat as ever and almost seems to have gone into one of those, well I look like shit, I might as well look more like shit stages of thought complete with an unshaven patchwork mustache and bitch tits.

As much as as i'm cool with the guy, he's been a shit friend to me, and by not taking care of himself, while his girlfriend is doing the opposite, he's basically resigning himself to this and signing her away to me. Cheers though, I think we've both been wanting to fuck for a long time now.

md619 · 2013-06-28T01:17:37+00:00

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kukul · 2013-06-27T23:09:59+00:00

If I were you I wouldn't even acknowledge the boyfriend's existence (always assume the sale).

also

Why aren't you guys in the gym yet? It makes this seduction business practically do itself.

Not if you're 5'7. (I still lift though).

r_rships_account · 2013-06-28T03:18:41+00:00

Your behaviour is unprincipled.

thereisnosuchthing · 2013-06-28T10:18:19+00:00

Pretty simple:

act as though you are better than him but don't want to be a dick about it or make him feel bad about anything, let her be able to know this on her own without rubbing it in.

be uninterested in her, while boyfriend is showing interest in her and trying to make her happy

this will automatically make the woman's "he's better and higher than me and look he doesn't want anything to do with me" radar go on high alert, which opens the door to easy legspreading, which is just nature's way of moving the children into a life with a higher socially/stronger male/father for both nuclear family and tribe.

it's not that women are unjust, it's that nature is just.

Jakedubbleya · 2013-06-28T15:34:51+00:00

How blue pill is it to avoid seducing women with boyfriends? That's always been a little too wicked for my tastes and not really necessary.

orographic · 2013-06-28T19:59:29+00:00

Congrats on the score but there wasn't much seduction there. She clearly already picked you out to have sex with.

TheBrownChrisBrown · 2013-06-27T22:18:03+00:00

this is pretty much spot on

zionController · 2013-06-27T22:52:14+00:00

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zionController · 2013-06-27T23:28:27+00:00

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3rt41 · 2013-06-28T05:55:05+00:00

Anyway, i hate when people go screwing up other people's relationship.

Now, you are doing the guy a favor because she looks like an actual bitch. But if she wasn't i would have considered you a douche for pushing on some other bro's gal instead of hitting on any other billionish girl around there.

2013-06-28T07:17:05+00:00

Damn... the classic wink/teasing tongue hybrid smiley

lol her boyfriend is probably some other red pill fool who doesn't give a fuck about his girl and probably fucking other girls bahahaa

musicvita25 · 2013-06-28T09:44:44+00:00

Interesting, but I find it a little hard to believe.

Right there and then she had a nude pic to send straight away?

More importantly, call me mad, the BF sounds like a fucking player. Off with other women, criticizing her looks, how hot is this broad in the first place?

Title	Seducing a woman with a bf - Quick pointers
Author	zionController
Upvotes	29
Comments	109
Date	June 27, 2013 10:02 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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