Should I lie about being a virgin?

Hokuto199x · 2014-08-08T14:14:39+00:00

You're 25, so nobody will assume you're a virgin unless you admit to it outright. I think even bringing it up could signal low value and ruin a lot of opportunities for you.

AlphaXpipubs · 2014-08-08T14:09:42+00:00

Why do you feel the need to tell a girl anything? Just keep moving forward... no reason to say a damn thing.

imeneo · 2014-08-08T15:37:37+00:00

the problem is not being a virgin. it's acting as if you don't have a spine.

virgin? no problem. don't wave it like a flag though - why should you? if they ask you, which they won't, divert it. you consider being a virgin a weakness, even though it's just a fact of life, which makes discussing it admitting to weakness. so don't. but also stop thinking like that. you are an explorer. you shouldn't view a strange land as something to fear. it's a challenge to conquer. view your virginity like that.

sexuality is about experimentation, pleasure and bonding. don't be too quick to bond, asses your relationships, and yourself, and see how they make you feel.

you may a virgin, but trust me, most women, even those with experience, all they do is just lay on their back and let you do your business. most can't suck a cock. putting your dick in a vagina isn't magic. it will be work. it will be fun, some of the times if she's hot and kinky, but you'll have to do much of the work and take control. women like it when you enjoy yourself - it gives them validation - they made you cum. and they will love it when you do. don't worry about lasting - that comes with time and practice (we all develop some method at some point). get some foreplay in, make it last. they'll enjoy it. and if you cum too soon, just own it like a boss, turn her on her back and finger her, make her finger herself and watch. these are just suggestions. the most important thing is to not lose frame. came to soon? fuck it, i loved it. now put two fingers in your pussy and let me watch you cum. do your thing an discover your kinks.

don't be afraid - every experience will teach you something new. embrace it. think of it all as a learning experience.

anxiety? fuck anxiety. own your life.

Algermas · 2014-08-08T14:12:17+00:00

Don't say shit, if it comes to it fuck her ( who cares if it's awkward, terrible and over in 5 minutes? ) and move on.

imeneo · 2014-08-08T15:09:51+00:00

My favorite response when I get the "how many girls have you been with?":

"All of them"

Fake it until you make it.

onehonesttruth · 2014-08-08T14:48:12+00:00

Totally lie. Saying that you're a virgin will freak out women and they will run away. Never admit that you're a virgin. But don't expand on it, either. Don't pretend you've banged 25 women when you've banged none. Just stay as vague and evasive as possible on the subject because it's none of their freakin business. And don't start asking questions about HER sexual history because it'll encourage her to question yours as well. Just avoid the subject.

However if the subject DOES come up and you've got to lie about it... use whatever experience you have to build on it. The two girls you kissed? Twist yourself into believing you banged them. Imagine yourself those are girls you actually banged, but didn't really have a relationship with. That's good enough.

Also consider just getting a professional and getting on with it. It won't teach you anything about sex or relationship, but it might reduce some of your anxiety the next time you have to put on a condom.

Oh and yeah. PRACTICE putting a condom on. You don't want to be so nervous about it that you lose all your erection when you try to put it on for the first time lol. It can and does happen. ;-)

FLFTW16 · 2014-08-08T17:20:30+00:00

YES, lie. Story time.

I was a virgin until I was 20. ALMOST 21. I was getting nervous. It was weighing me down. I knew I had to get to work and set about trying without having a fucking clue what I was doing.

When I finally got in good with a cute blonde girl I was elusive about my experience. I just said I didn't have much experience. We did the deed. It was meh... first time is shit as there is a learning curve to sex and that is when men have to perform.

After we finished I made the rookie mistake of telling her. She was furious. Like, kicked me out of her college dorm room, never spoke to me again, started talking shit about me to her cute roommate who I had my eye on.

Even though she enjoyed the sex and said I was the biggest cock she had ever had the pleasure of sitting on, when I told her she was my first it destroyed the experience for her. She felt like she had been duped, tricked. No one had pre-selected me for her. She wasn't with an alpha. She was with a boy, not a man. She didn't want to build a boy into a man. Women are lazy. They want a boy to become a man on his own, then reap the rewards for themselves with no effort.

Lie through your teeth. Be confident. Who cares. Get your experience in then you won't have to lie. FAKE it 'til you make it. Good luck.

bongwaterblack · 2014-08-08T15:34:27+00:00

I definitely lied about it when I lost mine. That's your business, and it's not going to add to the mood to say anything about it.

It doesn't mean make up lots of bullshit stories about having sex. It means that it should never come up in conversation at all.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-08-08T16:10:41+00:00

I wouldn't lie to a girl. Ignore the issue, then Instigate, Isolate, Escalate.

If she asks, use amused mastery: "With you I think it is always going to be like the first time."

MasonJarTeaDrinker · 2014-08-08T16:02:14+00:00

Don't bring it up and they won't even ask. Also, do you watch a lot of porn and fap a lot? Could be making you not really care about meeting women because you get off that way.

exit_sandman · 2014-08-08T15:22:05+00:00

1) Don't bring it up. If you can convincingly pull it off, make some quips about how women are.

2) If she brings it up, lie. There isn't much to lose unless you intend to stick with her long-term, which in all honesty you probably won't be doing anyway.

3) Be vague about it, but be consistent. If she inquires, have at least the basics of a story you can rely on. Don't sound as if you were just making things up on the spot.

4) The first time is usually rather awkward and not very satisfying. Should you have performance issues, insinuate that this tends to happen unless you're more comfortable with a girl. Again, have the basics of a story ready you can tell her. Apart from that, enligthen yourself about the intricacies of the female vagina. Being able to make her cum may make her a lot more receptive to your white lies.

AverageAsian69 · 2014-08-08T15:42:02+00:00

I tell girls I'm a virgin for the lulz sometimes just to see their reaction. No girl has ever been excited about that fact I'll tell you that much. I just say I'm kidding and proceed to fuck the shit out of them later on.

puaSenator · 2014-08-08T16:52:42+00:00

I ALWAYS tell women I'm a virgin. Every fucking time. They don't need to know my sexual past, so whenever they ask me about it, I just amplify by going to the extreme -- which I suppose is your normal. But they don't know that.

No one is going to outright ask you if your a virgin, so don't even worry about it. But if it does ever come up, just say you're planning on becoming the Pope one day, so you remaining a virgin to stay in the game, or some shit like that.

zephyrprime · 2014-08-08T14:35:38+00:00

Absolutely. Lie. Just don't say anything and let her assume that you are not.

[deleted] · 2014-08-08T20:22:39+00:00

Some girls like devirginizing guys. I remember a girl in college who sought them out, even if they were fairly beta, but acceptably not ugly.

agmatine · 2014-08-08T19:37:23+00:00

Dude, you need to learn to react, if she asks you for 60 dollars out of the blue and she doesn't even know you, she's not really respecting you. So you don't need to respect her, you could have said "I'll give you 30 for a good bj and other 30 if you have a good performance riding muh dic".

You don't need to please people, and you DON'T respect them if they don't respect you back. I'll even recommend you watch House of Cards and see how the protagonist reacts to people with much more status than him. If you don't impose yourself, people will only step on you and bring you lower. Women are fucking specialists on doing that, they'll only act as good people if they have something to gain, but their default is just stepping on others and feeding their narcissistic egos.

Another tip is to view women as the children they are, you'll see they'll react much better to you and even like you more by doing that. Mistreat them and they'll come and try to win your affection again if you're high enough SMV, treat them right and they have no reason to please you or even respect you, because if you're pleasing them, they must be more valuable than you.

Cum_on_doorknob · 2014-08-09T00:30:04+00:00

When I was 25 I had kissed zero girls. ZERO. I meet a very young (legal) hottie and actually charm her. She comes over one night and boom! We are getting into everything (my first kiss, hah). Adrenaline floods through me and I can't get an erection, no amount of dick sucking will get me hard. I admit my virginity. She laughs, but more in surprised way than a mean way. She promises to come back the next day. She actually comes back, we try again, this time I'm less nervous and the erection comes. I then proceeded to fuck her for about 2 hours straight. I was pretty lucky, I think. But if I could go back, I'd probably have taken a trip to Nevada, gone to a brothel, and ask a girl to teach me. Virginity is NOT special.

DazPatrick · 2014-08-08T17:00:12+00:00

When I lost my virginity at 19 I lied about it. Don't be honest.

farbenwvnder · 2014-08-08T14:43:46+00:00

Be confident, tell yourself "its just sex" or whatever helps to avoid performance anxiety for the first time and ideally, you'll want to take charge and she will think you had many before her.

Telling her probably won't change anything but if anything, it can only harm your relationship so I don't see a reason to tell her. Most people are still absolute shit and inexperienced in bed way past losing their virginity so nobody can tell the difference. This goes for both girls and guys

Joloco93 · 2014-08-08T16:49:43+00:00

I lost mine at 20 it was an ok experience but it's always better when you find someone who can put meaning to the experience so don't down your self about the fact ight

DerDayne · 2014-08-08T16:57:45+00:00

I would also say you should lie about it. Your first girl will probably find out if you're overly clumsy during sex, but that won't matter. Your confidence will built up after each time and it will become natural. It'll be no time and you will be wrecking pussy. Just try to find some girl you can be comfortable with... i won't recommend the biggest slut in town for that ;)

CrimsonCapsule · 2014-08-08T17:10:40+00:00

It never came up, actually. It just didn't go well (believe me, you want to get comfortable with condoms before the actual moment).

I technically got in there for a bit, but I spent so much time getting the jimmy hat on that I lost my erection. We'd both had a lot to drink, so we kind of just laughed it off, fooled around a bit, and fell asleep.

and that's how I met your mother

MastaBlasta925 · 2014-08-08T19:08:41+00:00

Figure out what you want. If you want to lose your virginity and don't care how, then practice going out and picking up girls or (if you are in a place that it is legal to do so) buy sex. No need to mention it at all in those situations. If they ask, playfully scold them and say you don't kiss and tell.

Brandwein · 2014-08-08T19:21:36+00:00

Learned this from hentai: Tell the partner you were a virgin after the sex, not before. Then have a good laugh. Wait... thats for girls virgins, never mind.

Keninishna · 2014-08-08T19:24:39+00:00

I would be honest with her if she wants to know but really most girls won't give a shit or think you are lying.

agmatine · 2014-08-08T19:38:38+00:00

Honestly if you have established your self in any way you are in a prime bargaining position for LTR/marriage with a virgin girl, I'd shoot for that personally, but I want kids, security in knowing my progeny are mine and I want as low as possible a divorce rate as I can achieve if these aren't things you want don't worry about it.

kindlebluemoon · 2014-08-08T19:40:27+00:00

When gaming women, the conversation should never be serious for long enough for her to even have an opportunity to ask. She only needs to experience your aura, she doesn't need to know any "facts" about you.

kick6 · 2014-08-08T21:27:11+00:00

I think you're overestimating the frequency with which this conversation will come up without you initiating it. So don't talk about it, and you won't have to have a canned response. And if it DOES come up, you don't owe her the truth just because she asked.

TheIronViking · 2014-08-08T21:28:16+00:00

Don't admit to it. It does little if anything to raise your value and most likely will negatively impact it. If your goal is just to hook up with a girl, then you don't even need to reveal such a thing.

If you get asked, lie. If questioned about it afterwards (implying the sex was awkward) you can at least recover. No need to preemptively shoot yourself in the foot.

SgtBrutalisk · 2014-08-08T21:36:47+00:00

Slay hooker pussy and who gives a fuck about your virginity? Always go for the 'I did it on purpose' explanation. "Why are you so awkward?" "On purpose, it's how I test women". "Are you a virgin?" "Sure, you got a problem with that?"

Never justify yourself to a woman. Never seek validation or understanding from women. They don't owe you anything and you don't owe anything to them. Remember that you're always worth more than a woman, no matter how socially awkward you are.

Doomsday_ · 2014-08-08T22:52:28+00:00

1) You shouldn't need to lie to girls about being a virgin because it really shouldn't come up; it's none of their business. If they ask you your number of sex partners, say that it's none of their business/you don't kiss and tell. If they ask if you're a virgin, Agree & Amplify: "Yes, and so is my mother."

2) From what you've said it seems like you need to work on your inner game (self-confidence) in order to avoid projecting unattractive neediness. (that's why the girl said she wouldn't fuck you because you'd be "clingy")

3) Don't make a big deal out of losing your virginity. Just accept that it will happen eventually and then make the best effort you can with women. If you try to force it you come off as desperate.

BlockPartyRock · 2014-08-09T02:33:19+00:00

For the love of god don't even mention virginity. I myself am a virgin and would never talk about that shit with anyone who knows who I am except my closest friends. If you're like me and have basically given up on the chance of ever having sex then I guess it doesn't matter quite as much but it's still not something worth bringing up. But since you still have hope I would advise that you never bring up the topic of virginity. If THEY ask about previous sexual partners, lie. If not then don't even mention it.

anonlymouse · 2014-08-08T16:37:14+00:00

If you're already naked with her or feeling her up and she asks, tell her. If she's asking, she probably suspects, and there's no way you'll be able to fake it - lying won't help you.

Don't volunteer that you're a virgin.

ExpendableOne · 2014-08-08T19:30:39+00:00

I'm not really a redpill guy but, if you're looking for a general opinion on this, there's really three ways you could handle this.

1) Lie to women until you have sex. Maybe you manage to deceive them, maybe you don't. Either way, maybe you get laid and you're no longer a virgin. A woman might not care that you lied to her after the fact, or she will dislike you for lying to her and will not want anything to do with you. Just move on and start fresh. Really an asshole/deceitful thing to do but it might still help you in the long run. Up to you to decide if the ends justify the means.

2) Don't say anything about your sexual history. If it comes up just be honest and say you're a virgin. Most girls will probably be put off by it(only gets worse as you get older), either because they don't want to waste their time with someone inexperienced or because they don't want to take on the teacher/assertive role. Now, some girls might not care and some girls might have a virgin slaying fetish but that's very unlikely. Either way, you're being yourself and you're being honest. Might not help you with your love life and it sucks that most women would have a really shitty attitude about this but you can't really do much about it.

3) Save 200$~250$ and go pay for an escort. If you're maybe worried about giving a girl a really bad experience on your first time, then the fact that you're paying her good money for her time, that she's probably had way worse and that you will likely never see her again will solve that problem. An escort doesn't care that you're a virgin, would let you call the shots(up to a point) and let you move things at your own speed. This would give you some experience/confidence when it comes to sex/women(genuine confidence can only really come from positive experience/reinforcement) and it give you an idea of how you are in bed, what you're good at and what you need to improve. Just make sure to wear a rubber and that she's clean/reputable.

If you're getting a decent amount of dates and doing okay as it is, then maybe just keep the fact that you're a virgin to yourself and go with it. If it's really an issue for you and causing you to blow opportunities with women, just find an escort and pay for it. Once you lose your virginity, you will no longer live with that personal stigma and you'll stop stressing about it(no more anxiety). You'll never think about your virginity again and move forward from there(you might be looking for that "special first time experience" but, really, the time for that would have been around when you were 16-18. At this point you should just get it done and forget about it). You would no longer have to lie about being a virgin(whether or not you choose to be honest about seeing an escort is another matter altogether) and you would no longer be turning girls away/off with your inexperience and anxiety.

Edit: Also, don't get too upset over dating website results. Girls end up getting a lot of messages and, to them, you're just some random stranger to ignore/delete with the click of a button(again, kind of shitty but nothing you can do). They don't really give a shit and there's probably taller, buffer and more accomplished guys messaging them all the time from all over the place(enforcing all types of ridiculous expectations and entitlements that will work against you when you try to approach/escalate).

[deleted] · 2014-08-09T21:10:53+00:00

Should you lie about it? Absofuckinlutely.

Robdogx9001 · 2014-08-08T16:10:39+00:00

Does anyone here think he should say "It's been a while" or something similar?

redditor1255 · 2014-08-08T18:28:17+00:00

Yes you should absolutely lie.

Just make up an ex or two. Make it something believable.

Is it amoral? A little. But think of it this way: You are concealing the fact that you are a low risk partner instead of the reverse.

StasisNation · 2014-08-09T01:10:36+00:00

Sure, why not. Plenty of guys have had sex and are shittier at it than you will be.

It's not like sex is hard or anything. It's like, if masturbating had emotional gratification.

Title	Should I lie about being a virgin?
Author	agmatine
Upvotes	43
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Date	August 8, 2014 2:02 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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