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Study finds men more creative and technical than women (in case you forgot)

darkstout

July 17, 2013
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Title Study finds men more creative and technical than women (in case you forgot)
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darkstout

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Date July 17, 2013 6:53 PM UTC
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[–]Kronouranos 44 points45 points46 points 13 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

No way. It's not like men have basically invented everything, ever, or something.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I've asked bluepillers about this before.

"WOMEN WOULD HAVE INVENTED STUFF IF THEY WEREN'T OPPRESSED FOR FOREVER"

This is literally how they thing.

[–]Serres 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Oppressed by their own biology to not have to compete in ways similar to how evolution has selected for men who are more and more capable. If only women were not taken care of and left to survive on their own in the brutal past of humans then they too could compete with men as men have always done. Majority of women being selected for with a minority of men being selected for means (subjectively) better men come out more often.

Like how men with penis and no ovaries are oppressed from being able to not have children since forever. If men could have children on their own without needing to compete with each other then probably men would have not been selected for so well.

[–]veggie_girl 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Your English was staggeringly awful but your message made sense.

[–]SenorZimmerman -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like you

[–]PimpinLarge -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, this is a key point: There is no selective pressure for women to be inventors or engineers.

If they weren't allowed to even do those things, then there's no reason why they would have retained or developed the ability.

[–]Traz_Onmale 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Women are dumb, never achieve anything."

"Ok, I'll study then and pursue a career."

"Go back to the kitchen, you feminazi!"

[–]PimpinLarge 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They sure aren't inventing stuff now.

Even tech startups run by women tend to focus on fashion and close to zero of them are actually technical.

The attractive? girl who was in this series folded her startup and started a new one for blouses or something, I can't remember:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/tech-stars/

It's in the reunion special IIRC:

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/78212132-techstars-episode-6.html

Also in the "Silicon Valley" Bravo TV series produced by Zuckerberg's sister (who was not a technical person at Facebook), the chick who left her job to start her own company also chose Fashion.

And Y Combinator women:

http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/30/ladies-of-y-combinator/

  • 99Dresses

  • Shoptiques

  • HireArt (Human Resources)

  • Daily Muse (articles about careers for women)

Then there's PlanGrid, which has 3 male founders and one female.

The technical work is done by the guys, while the one female "is always arguing for better functionality, clearer interfaces, and a better user experience for all of our customers." http://www.plangrid.com/about

And the last one is Medmonk, 3 guys 1 girl again, guys handle the technical side, she is "chief clinical officer" because she used to work in a pharmacy. https://medmonk.com/about

I've seen a zillion articles on "Women Entrepreneurs" and they are always doing things like making calls and promoting and never doing anything technical.

Okay, how about a more recent batch?

http://www.daniellemorrill.com/2013/03/meet-the-9-female-founders-of-y-combinators-winter-2013-class/

  • Swish - the CEO supposedly has programming skills, but her resume indicates she has mainly directed and managed other people, even in college

  • Backerkit - Design cofounder

  • Watsi - Marketing

  • Bitnami - COO, manager, degree in Finance

  • PayTango - UX design

  • StyleUP - Fashion. MBA.

  • GoldBely - Design cofounder

  • Lollipuff - Lead blogger

  • Microryza - Kickstarter clone for biology; can't tell for sure, but she appears to be a biology person and not a code person

  • Wevorce - get divorced. Attorney.

Nobody is programming anything or engineering anything.

[–]fuckingdanzig 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm at least 45% certain that a woman invented the blowjob, so touché motherfucker.

[–]AboveAFC21 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you sure that wasn't Adam who convinced Eve to kiss the snake?

[–]fuckingdanzig 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. That's why I said I'm only 45% sure.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

No. They were likely forced to do that too.

[–]puaSenator 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's a institutional problem either, as in society pushes women away from being creative. Men have a larger part of a specific region in their brain that allows for greater understanding of spacial differences and abstract thought. It's a biological thing. So naturally, men are going to be better at this.

Also, from a TRP point of view, women just don't have much incentive to be creators and inventors. Men, from a biological point of view are driven to succeed, invent, adapt, and so on... Whereas this is a much lower value in the female's biological push. They are more focused on feminine values, such as emotional understanding, hypergamy, and so on...

[–]Sword11 -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So what you are saying is the perfect woman... Is actually a man

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

[–]Sword11 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was said tongue in cheek. But from am objective view it is correct.

On one hand you have someone that is Rational, cognitive, stronger, more creative, better at problem solving, willing to work, caring and able to compromise

On the other you have someone that does none of those but can give birth

Combine those and it is basically a man that can give birth

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You underestimate women's social and manipulative powers

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But they did invent chocolate chip cookies and we all know we wouldn't be where we are today without that invention.

[–]empyblessing 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

skinny and healthy?

[–]PimpinLarge -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody ever accused them of not being obsessed with food.

[–]StratfordJupiter -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reason why most men have invented things is because women weren't allowed to work. I know the person who invented Kevlar was female, and there probably have been plenty of other things, too.

[–]captainedship2 29 points30 points31 points 13 years ago (40 children) | Copy Link

This has always bothered me.

I went to Architecture undergrad, a unique study where you see the work of students on a weekly basis via "pinups". There was almost certainly more creativity, boldness, and innovation by my male peers. Girls probably got just as good grades as the boys because they would organize their proposals well, present them well, and had the agreeable face of a 20 yes old girl. But ultimately their projects were frequently boring and/or unimaginative. Now I sometimes bite my tongue when I hear my friends say "architecture is still misogynistic because there aren't many famous female architects" --which is just such BS. The field publishes and promotes bold, creative thinking. There is little sexism in that.

[–]icallmyselfmonster 15 points16 points17 points 13 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link

I'll tell you worse. I studied Computer Science. Girls would get extra grants and funding. Male lecturers would go out of their way to help them. But they could grasp concepts like Object Orientation or encapsulation.

I used to help girls with their coursework, often writing the functions for them, but doing it in such a way that it wasn't apparent that it was my work. Every single time they got higher marks.

All you ever here about is getting women into IT. Even the system is rigged in their favor, they get a leg up into higher positions in the job market. But they can't grow into higher positions. As a class they don't have the ability.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 17 points18 points19 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's like that in the hard sciences and engineering too. Stop giving them a leg up.

If they can't cut it, despite being recruited into the positions, let them flounder. Instead, white knights come to the rescue. Great. I'm sure that's a productive use of resources.

[–]thecajunone 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

See? I was downvoted for saying this before but if men stopped giving a fuck about women we'd be colonizing the moon and exploring space in the next couple weeks.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure why you were downvoted, it's a legitimate problem that's rather pervasive in academia and the workforce.

I can see why it happens, though. Unless you've wised up, the natural inclination is to help women (and women take advantage of this heavily). This can be good for social and family life - but not work! Now you have a bunch of men wasting their time fixing and helping someone who won't bother to put in effort herself; who then proceeds to collect her paycheck and waste it on consumption.

Brilliant on her part, I suppose.

(And yes, there are women who compete and work hard. This post is not referring to them.)

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, you're not doing them any favors by helping them. People don't get better at something by having another person do the work for them.

[–]rztzz 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But they do get jobs by having decent grades. A job at a decent company is a huge leg up.

[–]cooledcannon -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Meh. If im already good at something, or i dont need to be good at it, and its a chore/unenjoyable to me, I would be very happy if someone else does those things for me so i dont have to.

[–]elevul -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe he was getting paid for it.

[–]cooledcannon 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I used to help girls with their coursework

why? did they help you back in return?

[–]elevul 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They helped him study anatomy.

[–]__var 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to do the same thing (although it was math instead of computer science). I'm not proud of it but at the time I thought it was a way to make friends and talk to girls.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

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[–]icallmyselfmonster 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

Oh fuck off.

EDIT: downvoted lol, So Brave. Somebody waited 25 days to first post as a grammar Nazi with zero substance.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

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[–]icallmyselfmonster 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

If somebody was concerned that my message was not getting through to the audience and wanted to ensure it did for the betterment of discussion, they would PM me and make a suggestion. But that isn't the intent here is it?

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

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[–]icallmyselfmonster 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

You forgot to capitalize and are using txt speak.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

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[–]icallmyselfmonster -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You still forgot to capitalize. Ill do neither.

[–]Heuristics[🍰] -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The field publishes and promotes bold, creative thinking

It really should not. It should promote aesthetic beauty (which is typically quite boring and old). The problem off course is that none of you people can draw so you cannot actually do that.

[–]The_Dinosaur_Club2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I would actually agree with this. The function of architecture should be to create spaces for human beings which are pleasant to inhabit and point towards the true, the good, and the beautiful. New urbanism, return to tradition, etc.

[–]Heuristics[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep, but look at the downvoting :)

It's a symptom of modernity, the new and the creative (irrational) is the good, the truth and the beautiful is bad.

This was once new and exciting so it was looked at as good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

[–]The_Dinosaur_Club1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What if male architecture students moved "boldly" and "creatively" in the direction of resurrecting past styles and building traditions? How cool would that be? The Renaissance was just a rediscovery and re-interpretation of past styles after all.

[–]Heuristics[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I have often had this thought as well. For no other reason then that it would be a huge commercial success it should be done. There are some rogue building owners near where I live that have forced this kind of thing into reality and the people love it: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakriborg (everything in the pictures have been built the last few years)

I think there can still be new and beauty though, but it requires skill at drawing. Just look at how much excitement the la sagrada familia cathedral elicits, people travel from all over the world to see it and it is not even completed yet.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen to that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poundbury

[–]rztzz 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not saying build alien ships. I'm talking about the very insular "academic" architecture, thinking on paper about the world in 20 years, not necessarily directly applicable to the profession today.

For example, a teacher will assign a program of classes, lecture hall, etc and the students have to lay it out in a way that works, design the exterior aesthetics, interior materials, etc. --and the girls (mostly, there was one brilliant girl) will frequently do the program EXACTLY as it is stated. Where the guys will push it and say hey, it's actually not that useful to have these rooms on the east end, it would serve the building and community way better to remove it and put in an outdoor green space. etc.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Frankly I think I would live in a woman designed house. I think all that boldness does not make homes truly homely. Some postmodernist male architects forget that houses should be putting people at ease and comfort and for example a front-leaning structure that feels like it could fall on you any day does not. I like the simple heimisch feeling of the Poundbury type New Urbanism quite livable, and I could imagine that women architects with a traditional homemaker spirit, housewife spirit could design that. I mean Jane Jacobson was basically advocating for something like Poundbury, although there is a big gap between advocating and actually designing.

[–]captainedship2 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Not talking about homes.

Either way you don't have to worry, most homes these days don't really have architects, they have developers. and most students don't end up going into residential architecture. Even if they do, you will sit down with your architect and he/she will likely design according to your tastes.

[–]atlascrowed 22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

But the study found no difference in the levels of adult achievement, said Dr. Lubinski, though the women were more likely than the men to work in medicine

If that's not motivation to stay healthy for as long as possible, I don't know what is...

[–]dandsed 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

though the women were more likely than the men to work in medicine

I wonder if this still holds true if nurses are excluded.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I don't think so. Medical schools typically have a 50/50 ratio, and the problem with female physicians is they tend to either work fewer hours or drop out of the field altogether.

[–]AlwaysLateToThreads 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I read somewhere that it takes 3 female doctors to do the work of 2 male doctors because they don't want to treat patients as much.

This is going to be a really serious issue one day if it isn't already.

[–]Camerongilly 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

New doctors in general are avoiding the 80-hour work weeks of the past, mainly because there's no extra reward for busting your ass any more.

[–]AlwaysLateToThreads 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh. So even the male doctors are working less for us. I hope I stay healthy for a very long time.

[–]shitsfuckedupalot 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People function generally better when they aren't over worked. the issue isn't that there aren't doctors, its that there are lots now.

[–]Camerongilly 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't get me wrong, I'd stay doing the 80+ hour weeks of residency once I'm out, IF they made it worth my while, but it's not currently worth it in the medical system. There are certain (mostly surgical) specialties that will always be high-hours, but to my post-call brain, your reply sounds a lot like entitlement- "working less for us." If you want someone to work more or harder, you have to pay them.

[–]AlwaysLateToThreads -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't mean to sound entitled but I guess it is what it is. Societies need healthcare. Without it were screwed. I had pneumonia at one point and without proper healthcare I would have died.

Many people will suffer if doctors work less. Nevertheless, I completely understand if people are dissuaded to be doctors because it takes a lot of effort to become one and they need $.

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ah, so that's why they're increasing tuition. To force new doctors into the 80-hour work weeks.

[–]Camerongilly 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are no new doctors that are going to be forced into 80-hour work weeks (other than residency, but that's been cut down TO 80, rather than increased.

Are you perhaps talking out of your bum a bit?

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm mostly just poking fun at the obscene level of debt most will graduate with. I'm well aware that you can't "force" them to work any particular hours except during residency.

Here's an example:

Estimated 2013-2014 Tuition, Fees and Expenses

School of Medicine Class of 2017

 Estimated Costs 

Tuition and Fees $51,060

Books And Supplies $1,200

Room and Board $13,980

Personal $3,600

Health Insurance $4,655*

Loan Fees $404**

TOTAL $74,900

[–]TRP VanguardVZPurp 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's already recognized as a problem but nothing is being done about it because that wouldn't be equal.

[–]AlwaysLateToThreads 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So it's been decided that "equality" is greater than human lives. Simply because our society doesn't want to acknowledge that men are better at somethings than women.

[–]__var 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I couldn't find that article but here is a similar one if people are interested.

http://www.businessweek.com/stories/2008-04-16/are-there-too-many-women-doctors

[–]thecajunone 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

No. Just as many men are nurses in my experience. (Anecdotal).

[–][deleted] 13 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]shitsfuckedupalot 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so your saying you failed cause you were oppressed? And you didn't feel like hearing about domestic abuse? It sounds to me like you would've made a shitty nurse anyway, and "feminism" seems like an easy excuse. Take some responsibility for your failures bro, or you'll just keep failing.

[–]thecajunone 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That sounds fucking horrible.

[–]mutualaid 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like bitterness that you weren't able to cut it... How's your hamster?

[–]CodeineCowboy -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Being a rational guy these days IS awkward. Haha. Dworkin, really???? FUCKkkkk

[–]robot_army_mutiny 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Man, I hate the system. I scored exceptionally high on IQ tests and standardized tests, etc., and they did not give one fuck.

Spent my entire public school career drawing, daydreaming, sleeping, and cutting classes while getting straight A's without studying once - not because I'm some super genius, I'm not trying to brag, but because the school system I was in sucked so bad and was geared towards the lowest common denominator. Had a total of one teacher that ever challenged me enough to pay attention. I always imagine that I could have become something important had I not been so turned off by 1940's era schooling :o/

[–]sushisection 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do what you love, the money will come. There are ways to get big if you are an artist thanks to the internet. We have access to worldwide distribution for free.

[–]mutualaid 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

why should it be the teachers job to involve someone who seemed to be a dedicated slacker? You make your own opportunities, you aren't entitled to them.

[–]robot_army_mutiny 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, when talking about adults and older students, but in early grade school I think it is the teacher's job to keep it interesting, and at least try to reach all the kids.

I taught college for a while, and I felt like it was my job to challenge all of my students - the ones who didn't get it, I tried to make things very simple, and the ones who seemed to get it easily I tried to extend greater and more open-ended challenges to.

Whomever is responsible for it morally, upping the effort on either end will pay off. But I think that in the first couple of grades it is mostly on the teacher, and gradually the responsibility goes more and more to the student as they get older and smarter and more self assured. But you kind of have to teach them that - teach them how to teach themselves. My school experience was just passing time, and then I got into the real world expecting things to be the same way and got a huge culture shock.

[–]pcadrian 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They did that shit all the way back in 1940s? I thought it started happening in the more recent years, due to things like the No Child Left Behind Act.

[–]cooledcannon 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the public school systems in most countries generally always have sucked really hard.

[–]robot_army_mutiny 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was in school in the 80's and 90's. I meant that my school system was 50 years behind the times, they just don't care about education in South Carolina.

Ugh. If you want a kid to hate reading, studying, and learning, send them to school in the deep South. They made it about as horrible and boring as the law would allow.

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[–]lIllIllIes 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Admittedly I haven't looked into research that shows where women excel

Raising a family.

Also, on her knees.

[–]The_Dinosaur_Club13 points14 points15 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"Raising a family." If you look at the stats for how kids of single moms turn out, it seems that they're dismal even at that.

[–]cooledcannon -2 points-1 points0 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think thats more to do with the women who tend to be single moms either fuck deadbeat guys who dont stay to look after the children, or they are crazy/selfish and divorce their husbands.

I believe widows who are single moms(through no fault of their own) probably do better than widowers who are single dads, especially with young children who need to be breastfed.

[–]sushisection 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Music is a perfect example. There are an overwhelming number of males in the industry. The only females are either vocalists or freakishly good indie artists, and even then they are only famous for their voices.

This is true especially for the production side of music. I can't think of a single female hip-hop producer, and I know of only a handful of electronic producers.

Hmm that's interesting. The only female musicians we like are vocalists.

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[–]sushisection 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah it is, good quote. I love the physics behind music theory, how the frequencies work to create consonance and dissonance, harmonics.

Vibrations maaaaan

[–]LumpyPUA 0 points0 points0 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Especially in weirder electronic music women get more rare. I mentally note good female producers.

Tokimonsta is one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrC--_0cKQ

[–]sushisection 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tokimonsta is great. Nicole Moudaber is pretty good too

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to change the tone of the conversation a bit. A huge reason I believe that women have problems with creativity and technical thinking is because they are never forced to do it. They are never forced to develop these skills because men are constantly trying to help them with their work in a feable attempt to get laid.

When I was an engineering undergrad, guys in my class would trip over each other every time one of the few girls needed help. The guys are well intentioned (well kinda, they wanted to get laid), but the reality remains that if you help someone with their work, they are never forced to learn it on their own.

I'm not blaming men or women for this problem. If men quit helping women with their homework 24/7, then women would quit asking. If women were required to do the work themselves, then they would develop the necessary skills to advance into the higher tier positions instead of expecting the positions to be given to them (just like everything else was).

What I'm really trying to say is that we need to stop being White Knights and focus on our own coursework. Stop bending over backwards to help women. If these things happen, men will get better grades because they have time to do their own work, and women will be better off in their careers once they develop their critical thinking skills.

I won't comment on the preferential treatment, because I didn't really observe it in engineering courses (engineering is pretty cut and dry), but your experiences may be different.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You see the weird part is that up to 14 or so girls usually out-math boys.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True. But in college a lot of the women that asked for my help didn't do any of the "suggested" homework throughout the semester, only begging for help at the last minute. What clicked for me over a period of weeks, they wanted to grasp at 2 AM in IHOP. Good luck, sister.

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Stop helping them then. Why do you keep helping them? They'll never learn if you hold their hand.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you stop helping them they will fail, how is that not motivation?

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[–]elevul 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Then ask them to pay you for the tutoring.

[–]n0c0ntr0l 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed.

I'm in CS and none of the girls can program.

I will help them out... for a fee. Never for free, my time is valuable!

[–]seakelpmagee 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Typical, its mens fault: "If men quit helping women with their homework 24/7, then women would quit asking.".....not "if women stopped asking" ohh no god forbid women take responsibility and rely on themselves when they can ask a man and then blame men for not letting her develop her skills...

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Is that all you took from my post? Fuck.

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck you I'm the furthest thing from a feminist. Helping girls with their HW is how beta bitches try to get laid.

The point of my post is that I was telling little bitches to stop helping girls with their fucking HW, because it won't get you laid.

[–]cooledcannon 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even if it did, its way too much effort

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"But the study found no difference in the levels of adult achievement, said Dr. Lubinski"

apparently you didn't read the article. It says the study showed that boys are typically better than girls in spatial ability, but not when they are adults.

[–]PimpinLarge 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It says the study showed that boys are typically better than girls in spatial ability, but not when they are adults.

No, it doesn't. It does not say that they are no better in spatial ability as adults.

It says "adult achievement", but without access to the full text, that term is undefined. Typically it refers to things like professional standing (social rank, not individual ability).

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you take the time to consider the context of the sentence, what you are suggesting it says seems rather silly compared to what I think it says.

[–]angelothewizard 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

IN OTHER NEWS: Water is wet, the sky is blue.

[–]troubadour1492 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women invented the emotional tampon.

It comes in a blue wrapper.

[–]shitsfuckedupalot -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Legos were my shiiiit dawg. And now im ready to take me some MCAT bitches

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