Why is bodybuilding/lifting seen as an image disorder?

WillClickOnAnything · 2014-10-05T00:27:34+00:00

You need to stop giving a fuck man.

avidmtnrunner · 2014-10-04T23:20:20+00:00

It's seen as an image disorder because so many people are too lazy to put in hard work and invest in their body. I personally think the real disorder is in people who have grown to take morbid obesity as normalcy, and fitness as the disorder.

markasstrick123 · 2014-10-04T23:27:50+00:00

I laugh at people who swoleshame. It's biologically proven that buff guys have it better. EVERYONE respects buff guys on a primal level. It's jealousy and intimidation masked as disgust.

Women are subconsciously attracted to my body and men view me as a threat, so it's natural for people to swoleshame.

Locastor · 2014-10-04T23:39:08+00:00

I have been swole shamed soo many times

I want to hear the stories! Particularly from hamsters you considered beneath you, and fat dudes.

ChristopherBurr · 2014-10-05T12:58:16+00:00

I've been a gym person my whole life. I used to like the big bulky look for myself, but now as I'm getting older, I wish I stayed on the smaller side of the scale. In my 40's I'm definetly having some trouble with my knees and elbows from the heavy weights. Also, i really wish I was a lot more flexable. I can see myself later in life taking a fall, and not recovering quickly because of the lack of flexability.

For myself, I'm working on getting smaller now.

As for the shaming you speak of .. the look inspires images of WWF wrestlers and football players. And while that is totally alpha in some environments and paces, in other places it's seen as cartoonish. It depends on what your version of alpha is. In investment banking, law firms, or other professional environments - alpha is more somewhat more refined - think of the TV show suits.

Mmagikarp · 2014-10-05T17:51:56+00:00

Because " that's not normal, the only way you can get like that is by using steroids, how can you do that to yourself". Low test, just low test Omegas VOICING their opinions.

yeahweewee · 2014-10-05T01:26:55+00:00

lawls seen by a image disorder by who? every since i started lifting in highschool and years later on guys and girls have treated me 10x better for no other reason

TheSliceman · 2014-10-05T05:40:50+00:00

Bigorexia is a real thing. Dont think it isnt.

DoctorWelch · 2014-10-05T18:51:35+00:00

It's one thing to be buff and have a great body, it's another thing to be obsessed with it and go overboard. Just like anything there is a happy medium and, although there are definitely undertones of jealousy and shaming going on, at a certain point I think it is looked at as insecure to be too big.

I've always looked at guys that are too big as kind of insecure about themselves. Since finding TRP my idea of "too big" has kind of changed but if you just look uncomfortably big I don't think that helps you as much as being well rounded.

updock · 2014-10-05T08:54:17+00:00

It's seen as an image disorder because it can be. When the guy on the right looks at himself in the mirror and sees the guy on the left, it's a problem.

I just dislike it when every guy on the right is assumed to have that problem.

ilovemagicmush · 2014-10-05T19:56:01+00:00

It's probably because you're fat. Do you have visible abs? Can you see veins running down the bottom of your abs?

Big means fuck all in terms of attractiveness if you're not lean

2014-10-05T21:35:46+00:00

I think it's part of the matrix/system/social conditioning. It's OK for a guy to be slim and in shape, such as a biker or runner. Such a fellow, while physically respectable, can still fit into the mold of feminized beta male (whether the dude is actually beta or not...it's all about perception). But it's not OK for him to be big and muscular. That makes him a caricature or gay.

In other words a lean but otherwise physically superb male specimen, such as a bicyclist, can still wear an oversize western shirt and no-ass hipster jeans and still blend in and not upset the feminine world order. But take a someone who regularly lifts in the two to three hundred pound range and his ass ain't even going to fit into those skinny hipster jeans. He's going to stand out and be the AMOG....and that upsets a lot of people's apple carts.

Look at how weightlifters and that type of physique are seen to those outside of lifting subculture. In the 70's and early 80's you had Schwarzenegger and Lou Ferrigno doing well then crossing over into Hollywood. That brought lifting culture into the mainstream. It wasn't just a niche subculture anymore. But that quickly gave way to the caricature of lifting...Joe Piscopo and the Hulkinator, the SNL "pump you up" skits, clown pants and neon tank tops....while somebody like Henry Rollins, who lifts and is articulate, stayed in relative obscurity.

Finally, at some point, it got to where a man with a weightlifter's physique was assumed to be gay.

It makes me wonder if it's not just jealousy, but social engineering. It's as if the most masculine imagery is associated with negative or unmasculine stereotypes in order to put ordinary men off from wanting to look that way. Could demonizing the overtly masculine imagery of a bodybuilder's physique be a way for the Matrix to demonize masculinity as a whole. What young man, who's struggling to find his identity as a man, would be drawn to weightlifting if he thinks it will make him look gay or goofy?

Personally, I don't care because I'm still going to get swole as hell.

a_tes_soulhaits · 2014-10-06T17:05:45+00:00

Because its like a girl with comically large tits, unless you want to do it professionally I can't see any point in getting to that size.

RedPillSafe · 2014-10-05T14:22:08+00:00

When you look too built up people think you are concerned about your appearance.

Women KNOW about appearance insecurities, so they project that onto "gym rats" and it makes you seem more mentally feminine.

The ideal look is guy #3 out of 5.

Baylien2 · 2014-10-06T01:20:04+00:00

Everything is an image disorder to ignoramuses except obesity becsuse "its not der fault der genetics derp derp stop fat shaming derp derp"

2014-10-06T02:06:22+00:00

because some people in their desire to get swole act irrationally in a way thats apparent to others, or worse "abnormally" , aka there are actually dudes who are fucked in the head over gym stuff, obviously lets focus instead on all the other guys who get that rep withotu any fault in their ways:
culture of crab bucket, people who aren't metabolically in one piece won't calm themselves down after being at risk of realizing that fact.

3.culture of gynocentrism, the hamster will find a way to blame the man because seeing a ripped guy makes her feel vexed a bit.

outright hostility, some people would just find anything about you to bash and try to frame it into some nastiness to throw at you.

shawn8795 · 2014-10-06T05:59:05+00:00

I box and plan on pursuing it as a profession so I'm kind of like the "normal muscle guy". Those big guys kind of just look stupid to me because most of that muscle isn't even practical.

humanspace · 2014-10-06T23:20:55+00:00

If you take your own body building to an 'extreme', people will assume you are insecure, a narcissist, and probably have a repressed sexual attraction to the male form. Things that would make you a psychological mess - and a mind set more feminine than masculine.

It may not be true of you, but that is what they will assume.

TheRealMewt · 2014-10-05T07:33:45+00:00

Mostly it's just sour grapes. People don't have the will to do it themselves so they knock those who can achieve it.

The only bodybuilding related image disorder anyone should worry about is if they themselves develop body dysmorphia when they lift.

Str8tuptrollin · 2014-10-05T09:06:24+00:00

Because the American Psychological Association which writes the DSM is controlled by feminism and corporate interest, they constantly are changing the diagnostics and statistics manual depending on what is fashionable. Being gay used to be a mental disorder, now it's an identity, the same with tranny freaks.

VegasHostTre · 2014-10-06T04:53:39+00:00

Do you live in America? If so it's because you are not normal and did not get the memo. FAT is the new normal, that's why they swole shame you. People ask me why I even lift, only people that need to be in shape are athletes and movie stars LMAO.

2014-10-06T05:46:27+00:00

"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." - Arnold Schwarzenegger

caliboo · 2014-10-05T04:07:14+00:00

Shaming is an attack in which your own actions, lack of actions, or inherit properties (race, gender, size, etc) is used against you with no effort needed on the part of the accuser.

The accuser can be any size, shape, race, or gender and it has a good chance of working.

It's effective simply because it attacks you using a negative, plausible, perception.

Mt_Arreat · 2014-10-05T06:06:59+00:00

AskTRP didn't appear because there's another subreddit for that, and there was a mod post about it.

It's seen as a disorder because people are jelly. That's all it is, really.

aa223 · 2014-10-06T03:38:58+00:00

Hate to break it to you but now-a-days everything you do outside the societal norm is considered a disorder. Hate the authorities? That is a mental disorder. Do you like to study a whole lot? That is also a mental disorder.

You see where I'm coming from?

Title	Why is bodybuilding/lifting seen as an image disorder?
Author	The_BitterTruth
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Comments	52
Date	October 4, 2014 10:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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