Need some clarity and help from the guru’s Is there any benefit, or dread generated, when you realize your wife has no desire or attraction to you… and you mention it. I don’t mean being proactive and mentioning it like a wimp…. But what about a situation where she wonders why you are going out more often, aggressive with your new gym lifestyle, and clothing/look improvements… A response to a question like “what’s gotten into you lately” or “why are you going to the gym so often”

Or am I so deep in the beta spectrum that asking this question is laughable

So far I’ve just STFU.

Oddly enough, I’ve progressed to not even wanting to put all the effort in kino and seduction because the quality of the sex is just not worth the effort… I don’t know if I just try again in a month when ive made some more personal progress…. I feel like I have enough things to work on that kino/seduction could take a back seat for a while. She would still rather sit on the sofa and watch TV with me until we get really tired instead of being physical. Ive already cut our TV time down to almost non-existent.

Me: Im at about 15-20%BMI, tall, goodlooking, and already had my hygiene and clothing game on point. I think my main areas of improvement are physical muscles and being less ‘nice guy’ and more dominate… both things I am focusing on right now. Personally, ive always been quick witted and funny and easy in social situations… I typically handle a room easily and slot myself into leadership pretty quickly.