The Red Pill Is Confusing Me. Help me out?

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Average_Black_Man · 2014-07-15T04:44:56+00:00

You seem to be a bit confused, TRP isn't "true" or false necessarily. everyone has their own opinions on things, but most of the stuff posted here has some truth to it.

My goal in life isn't to get laid as many times as possible, but instead find one girl who's perfect for me and marry her and have a great life.

That's great and all, except where do you expect to find this "one girl" that you can be happy with. How many marriages do you know of that are perfect? The divorce rate in america is higher than 50%, and a good majority of the couples that aren't divorced are unhappy in their marriages. Especially with a westernized woman, you're going to be hard pressed to find a quality one.

It all boils down to doing what YOU want. If it's working out for you and you're genuinely happy, that's fantastic. Go for it, nobody is going to try and stop you. You need to think about it and weigh your options though. You don't want to be the beta provider.

edit: Also what do you mean by "most of you would consider me beta"? Clearly you know you are doing beta things, why wouldn't you want to be as alpha as possible?

magicalbird · 2014-07-15T05:11:30+00:00

I was raised to be nice and treat everyone with equality. My goal in life isn't to get laid as many times as possible, but instead find one girl who's perfect for me and marry her and have a great life.

Equality is good for society. Dominance creates tingles in women. These two are very different things so pick and choose when to use when to be equal (society, acts of kindness) and dominant (attraction, negotiation)

648262 · 2014-07-15T07:18:22+00:00

I've seen stuff that says it doesn't matter what girls want or think, and also that at heart girls want to be dominated.

The typical beta has been too concerned his whole life about what other people think of him. He should focus less on what the girl wants and more on what he wants himself. If you do this naturally then you're all good.

As for domination? There is truth in it. All women want a man that takes the lead. That is my experience. He takes her on dates in the manner of "hey, let's go to Joe's Pizza" instead of "uh... So where do you want to go honey?". He takes care of business. And in the bedroom he takes control and that genuine lust he has for her is attractive. That does not mean he should occasionally beat her up and rape her. The word "domination" is loaded.

Am I living in my own world where I've tricked myself into believing things that aren't true and devoting myself to TRP will make my life better

Would it be accurate to say that making my own choices and deciding some of the red pill is bullshit is ok and I haven't deluded myself into believing total garbage?

If you have any amount of education the you would know that you should always be critical to new information. Option 2 is correct.

analtear · 2014-07-15T16:48:12+00:00

Hey. Trp helped me. Socially and health wise. The problem it's there is a minority who really do hate women. There is also too much focus on women being bad and men having it tough. The reason this is left is because many guys have issues removing women from the pedestal.

If you focus on the good stuff, the self development you will get a lot out of trp.

AlphaAsFAQ · 2014-07-15T04:50:42+00:00

making my own choices and deciding some of the red pill is bullshit is ok and I haven't deluded myself into believing total garbage?

Agreed

LiLBoner · 2014-07-15T08:23:17+00:00

For example I've seen stuff that says it doesn't matter what girls want or think, and also that at heart girls want to be dominated. like, come on. That seems ridiculous to me.

You shouldn't take it too literally. What that means is that through evolution human females were kinda programmed to be submissive and males to be dominant. But in the 21st century it's not that black and white. A lot of women now like to dominate too, and lots of men like to be dominated. What TRP sometimes forget is that society and habitat sometimes have a greater impact on humans than their biological roots. But it still has some truth in it.

gabilromariz · 2014-07-15T08:52:42+00:00

I'm sure you're fine. This is all a spectrum and everyone in here is different. If you believe/apply the main points, you're RP. Anything else is just your personal variant. Plenty people in here are pick up artists but you also have married guys and even girls looking to better themselves. There's people of all kinds in here, Main things:

People judge you based on your SMV, there is no going around it
Working to improve yourself is very important
You are the most important person in your life
Do your own thing (within limits). You don't need to answer to anyone but yourself. And your boss for work related shit but that's not the point.

Do you think this is obvious and true? Do you think people who want to be loved but don't work for it/their SMV are silly? Then you're RP no matter if you're banging ten chicks a night, only one for the rest of your life or none at all (by choice, of course)

real-boethius · 2014-07-15T13:56:56+00:00

like, come on. That seems ridiculous to me. powerful argument bro. you'll persuade a lot of people with garbage like that, not

sanguine_capsule · 2014-07-15T14:41:59+00:00

You said that you usually are the kind of person that applies logic. I would Ike to appeal to your logical self, your rational and thinking self.

Belief =/= reality. Not once but twice I have believed with every fiber if my being that the girl I was with was the one. Absolutly without a doubt THE ONE! As strong as my belief in God, and even reinforced by it, as I believed each time that This one was SENT by God for me to love FOREVER! My firm unwavering belief was as strong as any belief can be, and yet each time the relationship ended, often blindsiding me.

When my son jumps off the couch he believes that i will catch him., however, no matter how strong his belief is, when he jumps at me, without me knowing he is going to, he crashes.

Belief =/= to reality.

I can believe I will be a DR. But without med school that belief will be just that, a belief, not grounded in a rational world. If I actually want my belief to be a reality it is necessary to take action. no matter how much I believe I will win the lottery, I ain't gonna win without buying a ticket. Likewise you won't get a girl unless you are able to attract/win the girl.

But just for the sake of argument let's say that you have the perfect girl drop into your lap. This gurl is amazing in every way and you are just meant to be together forever. How exactly are you going to do that? How are you, consistsntly, daily, for 25,000 plus days going to make this ever changing and growing unicorn happy? Do you know how women think? Do you know what makes them happy? Do you know how to foster a loving relationship for the betterment of all evolved?

No. No you do not.

I don't say that to be mean, it is just the reality. If you DID understand women and had what it takes to make them happy, you would have never had a girl break up with you, or shame you, or hurt you. Moreover, you wouldn't be here asking us questions if you had it all figured out.

My advice to you is to keep an open mind, read the side bar, and then start paying attention to the world around you. I know TRP is an accurate strategy because I can look at the world through a TRP lense and then make a hypothesis, test it, and achieve TRP stated results.

This shit works, and you can prove it yourself, and all you gotta do is open your eyes, apply your rational mind to figuring out what works. No need to be an ass. TRP is a tool kit. Try it out for yourself.

kick6 · 2014-07-15T14:57:05+00:00

I was raised to be nice and treat everyone with equality. My goal in life isn't to get laid as many times as possible, but instead find one girl who's perfect for me and marry her and have a great life.

So my question to you guys is this, and please answer without being biased: am I living in my own world where I've tricked myself into believing things that aren't true

Why yes, yes you were. Because while you were being raised this way, women were being raised to "have it all:" go out and sample a bunch of dicks (find herself), focus on her career, and then after the 3rd job, the 6 figure salary, and 100 cocks...find some chump like you, Dave, to pretend she's "the one" and finance the rest of her life.

Sound like a raw deal? It is.

You say things like "domination seems ridiculous." The blue pill isn't really a "thing" so much as just the way we're raised as you've mentioned. The problem is, it's crap. You've been gaslighted your whole life. The reason we use the red pill/blue pill metaphor is because this gaslighting is so pervasive, it's like the matrix in the movie: you don't even know it's occuring. You've been told NOT to trust your senses, but to believe the narrative you've been fed (i.e. girls are all princesses, girls deserve your default respect, girls are more mature, the best way to get girls is to be superdupermeganice to them, etc). And all that nasty, slutty, GGW behavior you see everyhwere - well - here's a plausible excuse why they acted that way, they're still a perfect princess.

The red pill basically says: trust what you're actually observing. Is it ridiculous that domination works? Or do you actually see it working every day?

Senorbubbz · 2014-07-15T18:27:49+00:00

You won't know what's true or not until you've applied it and gained experience/reference points. Women DO like to be dominated. You just don't think so because you haven't seen it with your own eyes yet. It has nothing to do with equality and everything to do with biology/preference. Just keep reading and observing.

Meglomaniac · 2014-07-15T07:29:14+00:00

I think that some of the stuff in TRP is a bit too far. I dont believe that AWALT personally. I dont think that they are incompetant twits who cant form an intelligent thought.

That being said, Most of TRP is true.

Title	The Red Pill Is Confusing Me. Help me out?
Author	DavetheSave
Upvotes	11
Comments	46
Date	July 15, 2014 4:16 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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