A Philosophical Perspective That Might Help You Get Chicks

Dwerg1 · 2024-10-07T02:44:04+00:00

It took me way too long to realize what value really means in a social context.

This is so ridiculously simple that I felt stupid when I realized it. I had been working on increasing my value, as perceived by others, but didn't quite get a breakthrough until I stopped to think what value really is.

To gain perceived value you need to give value, do something that others will appreciate. Now this does not mean spamming drinks at chicks or something, it's deeper than that. I give them a good time, that's what they want.

I'm not walking up to the chick to get her, that's selfish, that's to take and that frame of mind is doomed to fail at least eventually. I'm there to have a good time and potentially give her a good time as well. Not everyone trusts that I will (some call this rejection), but those who go along are rarely disappointed.

This is THE reason why being needy is so incredibly unattractive. It's all about taking, not contributing or giving.

Back in the day when I finally cracked the game I gave myself a good time first and foremost, then as I was feeling good myself I could give that feeling to others. Women value what I give them and they give back (unless they're a piece of shit in which case I stop giving).

So if you want even more feelings of worth, don't just merely try to go after a girl, try to really give her a good time as your goal instead. That's what you want to succeed at, because even if you fail you at least tried to do something good, you tried to make someones life better, you tried to give value.

I feel like giving and uplifting is becoming increasingly rare these days, we all want to be uplifted, but someone has got to fucking do it.

I did that all night at a club yesterday, what did I get? A hottie trying her hardest to wrap her head around why the hell I have such a pull on her. I just gave her a good time, made sure she was having the most fun she could have. Meanwhile I couldn't count the amount of dudes who rolled up trying to "get her", but she was basically stuck to me and instantly turned down all of them.

assukkar · 2024-10-07T00:35:59+00:00

Definitely...

The thing is that a lot of guys are too addicted to porn and social media. It clouds the mind and women can tell.

Just treat all women like what they are... Human beings.

Yes, beauty is intimidating but it's because we tend to go in thinking with our penises. Stop that. Be yourself and don't act thirsty.

Zitoism · 2024-10-07T02:24:38+00:00

Or….know that you’re already an amazing person worth getting to know. And if a woman doesn’t see that in you, that doesn’t make you any less worth it than if she did. Maybe the only person’s opinion on one’s worthiness is on themselves?

VrilHunter · 2024-10-07T08:17:50+00:00

If you like a woman, pursue her. If she likes you, you get what you want. If she doesn't, who cares, onto the next one. As a man, it's in your blood to pursue things you want for yourself.

Put in the effort and remove any expectations.

chadan1008 · 2024-10-07T02:44:36+00:00

women are more than simple biological organisms… they are objects

🤔

oluwie · 2024-10-07T00:29:16+00:00

Yea, build up that feeling of worthlessness by actually getting rejected, and not by just thinking it’s gonna be a no but not going through with it. /s

But honestly, great post.

DonaldyPutin · 2024-10-07T00:39:36+00:00

Whatever this guy is saying is 100% true, some will understand by deep reflection, some by experience and some by regrets.

agentStag · 2024-10-07T14:58:35+00:00

"The woman isn't a woman. She is everything you unconsciously and consciously make her represent."

This hits home! This is most likely the source of all my approach anxiety.

Shadowfury957 · 2024-10-07T15:56:40+00:00

It's possible that celibacy and not feeding lustful thoughts/spirits is supreme to cultivating deeper value/bliss

BUT I generally agree with OP and this is way better than porn/living in fear or apathy

revonssvp · 2024-10-07T08:53:58+00:00

This is true.

At the end, you feel invisible and useless to live

JL-214as · 2024-10-07T14:05:29+00:00

Stoicism

DDDystopia666 · 2024-10-07T19:19:51+00:00

Intresting way to look at, I suppose. If you don't approach a woman specifically because you feel like you're not worthy, then this is absolutely a problem that you should address. That's fair enough.

Ambitious_Help959 · 2024-10-11T07:43:46+00:00

I think you're right, but for the wrong reasons. It's not a question of philosophy or ego. It's a question of monkey-brain emotional conditioning. Every single encounter with attractive females in which there is a profound interest toward them is another instance of conditioning of the socio-emotional part of the brain. Things like self-esteem and self-worth are, at the very core, primitive brain mechanisms of a social species involved in bonding, mating and social status. All the nonsense and philosophy we dump on top of it is merely egotistic cope or narcissism.

I think the greatest weakness in the ambition to improve with women is the retreat into the ego to attempt to come up with a satisfactory worldview in order to explain/narrate/justify things, or to psyche oneself up or motivate oneself. This is actually a way to condition the brain into folding in on itself and avoiding confronting the core vulnerabilities and trauma that are the most relevant to our true self and soul, instead choosing to sequester one's psyche in a chrysalis of ideas used to assuage and self-soothe.

So I agree that on some level every attraction to a woman is like a projection of the inner being. I also agree that to cage oneself into a prison of quiet desperation and never do anything about it, is a slow form of suicide. I might even agree that it isn't entirely inappropriate to come up with all sorts of grand philosophies or other abstractions based on that. However, at the end of the day, this is all really just primitive emotional brain conditioning.

The problem is that those with unfavorable conditioning, require a new conditioning, and the transition process can be quite slow and ugly. Indeed, there is no guarantee of its success, or, that it will be worth it. And yet, at any given juncture, one must consider, that in the face of certain death, do we want to live before death takes us, or do we prefer to just let go immediately? And if indeed we choose to give up, why haven't we given up overall and just stopped attempting to survive at all? The contradiction between these two things can certainly destroy someone's psyche.

awaythr0w · 2024-10-07T19:04:35+00:00

This sub is a bunch of virgins giving each other advice they made up on the toilet. Jfc.

Lord_Asmodeus93 · 2024-10-07T18:59:41+00:00

Well said.

nordik1 · 2024-10-08T00:57:09+00:00

Very interesting

Big-Mix5905 · 2024-10-07T12:26:30+00:00

Nah fuck that I'm jerking off

Title	A Philosophical Perspective That Might Help You Get Chicks
Author	late_dinner
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Date	October 7, 2024 12:12 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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