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[–]zagtec 36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I was you in that particular situation, I'd just be open about it. I am at the mall b/c I want to meet people and overcome my social anxiety taking to girls. There's nothing wrong with that. Just do it with confidence and no one bats an eye.
[–]Canadian-Seductioner 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's a legitimate fear to have. Maybe you should change up your daygaming locations to avoid being so obvious about it. I personally believe daygaming should be done in moderation and usually only as an aside to something else that you're already doing anyway.
[–]DoomKnight45 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its all in your head bro. Next time just open the two girls at the kiosk, tell them you live nearby or something and that you come here often. Who cares dude, whatever you say just say it with confidence and conviction and nobody will give a toss. If you make a big deal out of it, then people will sense that and thats when you start to get labelled a creep
[–]Keezymac34 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its irrational because she probably knows but what can she do about it,nothing. I have the same irrational fear when day gaming at college but you have to realize people are so focus on themselves they really dont care about what you do as long as its legal which cold approach is.
[–]Bsquared9088reddit 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At university we used to have a medical school where all the hot doctors would study.
Me and a group of 5 friends went there 3 days a week to approach girls
We got a reputation
It was fun. Hilarious and everybody knew who we were and they were jealous of how much fun we had Just being loud, laughing and enjoying ourselves
You’ve got nothing to worry about. Chill.
Keep going
[–]christopherames 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m sorry. I thought this was a seduction subreddit. I guess instead it’s a place to call guys trying to develop day game weirdos, desperate, etc. Good for you for approaching 75+ women, OP. I would try to just change up the venue if possible.
[–]Mr-Kabuki 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks man. This subreddit needs an over haul. Too many white knights and ‘dating advice’ people need to leave.
[–]drgreen987 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Great job working over your anxiety and fears. Im going to give you advice, dont take it the wrong way.
You shouldnt invest so much of your time cold approaching, invest in developing knowledge and skills that’ll make you a winner in life ie books, finance, fitness, fashion and positive outlook
Approach a cute girl when you run errands, ie when going grocery shopping, mall, library etc. You are being that creepy guy hitting on girls, you come off as a loser who has nothing better to do but wants pussy, not a way to go about it. Instead allow it to be organic, you see a cute girl anywhere approach within 5 seconds; deep breath in and go for it. Once you start a convo you forget about your nervousness
Focus on building a social circle, start a convo with anyone and everyone. A great speaker/conversationalist makes a great seducer. Often times, girls become so attracted to be after they witness my interaction with others, mannerism, attitude, respect, articulation
Hope these points guide you in the right direction
[–]gimmeadvice_x 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Point 3 is great but for someone who has English as their second language, they can't be as articulate and funny as their native counterparts. Any advice for such people?
[–]drgreen987 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
English is my 4th language, my advice would be: 1. be confident, this can be developed through practicing 2. understand that its ok to struggle speaking and being articulate, it takes time and making mistakes is great way to learn 3. Learn from example of other articulate people, for example, watch how someone you find articulate: speak, their tone etc 4. when speaking, take your time to collect your thoughts then speak it, dont rush to say something for the sake of saying something, practice this and learn to use pauses 5. become comfortable with who you are! if you have an accent use it to start conversations. Girls often will ask me where my accent 6. Sense of humour comes from within, there are many comedians who have accents and english is their 2nd and even 3rd language, watch them and learn from them
[–]frp33 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I'd say your approaches should pretend to be in a friendly way, including groups, and make it as something natural. If you go n say "you look cute" or "I like you" the chance of being perceived as a weirdo is much higher. It can work, of course, but everything works at the end if you keep trying, the real question is what it is the most efficient way to create attraction while approaching, and I strongly believe it's trough friendly interactions.
Obviously reputation is a thing, be over there approaching girls will give a needy and "cheap" impression of you, so I think the best way to get girls is to be friendly with fucking everyone. Making male friends can be really useful since once u know someone in the group it's gonna be much easier to get to the girls in a natural way, and letting girls see you socializing will make u seem "that friendly guy" and not that desperate or pervert guy. At the same time, having friends everywhere will probably show a higher status by itself.
Change locations if possible, and try not to seem too direct. You weren't looking for it, it just happened, ok?
[–]Mr-Kabuki 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I’ve had success with complimenting their outfit, as well as asking for a woman’s advice on a good birthday present for my sister.
[–]frp33 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So, did u buy the present after her advice? 😂
[–]Mr-Kabuki 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No not always. But sometimes after opening the conversation with the questions I will continue the conversation for a little bit to gauge interest. If she seems interested, I’ll ask if she wants to continue our conversation while I continue shopping. I’ve gotten instant dates and numbers as a result.
[–]frp33 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But do those numbers take you anywhere??
[–]Mr-Kabuki 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No but I’ve only gotten a few. Realistically only small percentage of numbers convert to dates.
[–]RPslimjim 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to be cognizant of your surroundings in the future. If you frequent the mall, use that to your advantage. Make friends with the girls at the kiosk. Buy them a drink or lunch. Just be friendly. Tell them you’re just trying to meet people and get over social anxiety. It’s all how you spin it. Good luck.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to ruthless and be shameless, you have something to offer to women. To get better with women you have to approach them no way around it. The mall is great high volume warm in the winter time. But like others said change the locations. If I was you I’d hit the mall a day out of the weekend and a day out of the weekday. Nobody cares what you’re doing anyway I do the same thing security guards don’t give a fuck. Many people walk around in the mall to look around warm up etc etc. She’s just a female at the kiosk you’re good
[–]JacobMoogberg69 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link
Think about how ducking creepy and weird it is to go out for the purpose of harassing girls at a mall all day. Do you think that's how normal guys get laid? Day game means going about your day, doing whatever you have to be doing with purpose and if you see a woman you want to meet you go over and talk to her. It doesn't mean spending all day at a place harassing women.
[–]DoomKnight45 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
The normal average guy has an unsatisfied sex life.
Also people do this stuff all the time on tinder. Same thing except this is in person. And its not harassment until OP keeps pushing after getting rejected
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Trust me, been there done that. Started getting laid way more when I stopped going out with the purpose of getting laid and started going out with the purpose of enjoying myself. Women don't want to attach themselves to a desperate predator trolling the local mall for poon. They want to attach themselves to a guy with a fulfilling and fun life, who is not desperate and weird.
[–]gggg543 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
What you’re saying is true from an end goal perspective of being an attractive male.
However, you’ve got to understand that most guys begin actively day gaming to overcome approach anxiety and to shed that ‘pussy on a pedestal’ mindset. Intense exposure therapy is the best way to achieve this. Most guys stop the intense day gaming once they overcome these issues. It’s no use having a fun and fulfilling life if you haven’t got the confidence to display your lifestyle to a woman you’re attracted to.
I don’t day game because I’m pretty confident around women and night game has a better effort to reward ratio, plus I can get drunk and have fun with friends at the same time. But I fully understand why day game would be great for guys who need a reminder that 99% of women are nice people who aren’t out here to actively knock you down and make you feel like shit. Women in bars and clubs are far more likely to give you a harsh rejection so day game is a better route.
[+]JacobMoogberg69 -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
That's total bs because it is totally counter productive to be running around harassing girls and being the awkward weirdo. You are lowering your chances of getting girls interested and wil just end up depressed and sad because of all the rejections.
[–]gggg543 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Simply not true. Women will understand that it’s kind of a nerve racking thing for you to do and won’t want to hurt your feelings. It’s also quite flattering for them, women like validation about their appearance. Most women also hate being seen as a bitch.
For someone who is very nervous around women, it should just be used as a confidence building method. The rejections shouldn’t be knocking your confidence too much as your expectations shouldn’t be high.
Also going up to strangers and starting a conversation isn’t harassment. I don’t know what kind of environment you grew up in if you believe that’s the case. Is going up to some random dude and saying you like his shoes harassment? Complimenting a random woman on her appearance isn’t any different.
You’re saying ‘you’ve been there’, but based on what you’ve said after, I’m not inclined to believe you’ve ever approached a random woman on the street. If you have, by your own definition you’d be admitting to being a sexually harassing weirdo.
Go watch some YouTube videos of guys doing it and you’ll see that 99% of women are pretty chill about it.
[–]Mr-Kabuki 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Tell me what the fuck is the alternative. No results on online dating. If I exist and do nothing and ‘go about my life’, how can expect improvement or results?
[+]JacobMoogberg69 -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
As I said, get a life, go find stuff to do and when you see a girl you like then go up to her. Hanging out at the mall to do that is predatory.
[–]sarge_slayer 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nothing wrong with gaming at the mall. I've laid 3 chicks from my local mall. One of them is my current gf, who I actually quit game for. some of my experiences are detailed on my pickup blog at cypher.game.blog
So as long as you don't push past the rejection, there's nothing wrong with it and it's a great way/place to meet girls.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've met girls in all kinds of places, but I didn't hang around like a desperate weirdo. Women notice the vibe and they know what you are doing and they find you weird and creepy. Hence why op is not seeing any success. Otherwise he'd have a gf by now, lol.
[–]Reitsariesforevaries 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They hate you because you're right.
[–]Mr-Kabuki 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yea man seriously you sound like a chick.
[–]Reitsariesforevaries 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It says a lot about you that when you're confronted with the fact that being a loser mall rat looks predatory and well... loser-y you tell that person they "sound like a chick". Suggesting that 1) you have some sense that women don't like this shit, but you do it anyway, because you're a the aforementioned weirdo mall predator and
2) think it's an insult to be a woman? and therefore will be the kind of person that women would rather gnaw their own arm off than spend time with and
3) can't handle critique.
[–]themarzipanbaby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So you‘re saying that he sounds like the group of people you‘re trying to approach? Then why aren‘t you listening if you think he‘s a girl and he‘s telling you that girls think your actions are creepy?
[–]Mr-Kabuki 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because most girls don’t think going out to learn social skills is normal. They think the fact that you even have to take extra steps to learn how to interact is weird. They want guys who they think are naturally smooth, or learned to be smooth in a natural and non-intensive kind of way. Even having to go on the internet to learn theory is weird and creepy to most girls. Obviously there is nothing wrong with developing speaking ability. But this guy, who probably learned naturally and easily, seems the think that ‘just being yourself’ is what works. Seriously, that’s the kind of advice someone mom would give them.
You obviously don’t know anything about seduction/pua. Go back to r/dating_advice.
[–]RPslimjim 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is the r/seduction sub. We have no need for white knights. Can the OP improve his situation? Definitely. So be constructive.
[–]Reitsariesforevaries -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Telling on yourself by calling someone rational and who thinks hanging around a mall all day to annoy people who just want to do their shopping a "white knight". People who use the term 'white knight' seriously are weirdos.
[–]RPslimjim 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks man I’m the weirdest
[–]JacobMoogberg69 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just say it's a sub for creeps.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Talking to people is not harassing. But I agree with the rest of the post, walking in the same mall all day? Lmao.
Not all day. Just for like an hour.
[–]No_Air_5047 -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
OP is basically a predator, hunting…. Lol
OP did you get any pussy at least? Also at least buy something at the mall and support the local economy, even if it’s a cup of soda from the food court.
[–]DoomKnight45 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You arent obliged to buy anything everytime you visit a mall wtf is wrong with you guys
[–]No_Air_5047 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was joking….
But if I frequent a bar to pick up girls, I always support the establishment by purchasing drinks and/or food.
[–]Firegeek79 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If your worried about getting a reputation as a creeper it may be because deep down you understand how this is exactly like being a creeper?
[–]Doncheetlethe3rd -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
😂😂😂
[–]Imaginary_Bear_2710 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just keep it 100 with the girls at the kiosk. Swing it in your favor.
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