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[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 95 points96 points97 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I think she has to like you to care about your opinion.
[–]LawfulnessLow7794 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is what everybody is overlooking
[–]19Black 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People overlook this because it is the harsh realization no one wants to think about. People prefer the fantasy that they can get any woman into them if they say or do the right things.
[–]leewoponreddit 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly what I was gonna say
[–]shebecamedarkness 31 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If she is a badass chick, she neither needs or wants validation or approval of anyone. Instead of trying to manipulate the situation... SHOW her what you can bring to the table. Whatever it is that you have to offer in the specific type of relationship you want with her.
[–]willgo-waggins 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
This is gold right here.
[–]shebecamedarkness 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Thank you. I like genuine people and if you want me to want you, you should make yourself desirable. If you just wanna fuck, be real about that shit. If you want a relationship, definitely don't start of with dark psychology tactics.
[–]willgo-waggins 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Why can’t people just get this?
I’ll use myself as an example to show.
My girl when we met it was instant. And I’ve only had that a couple times in life. She let me know this later that she wanted me (not just sex but that too) from moment one. This was made clear to me all night at the party we were at.
Unfortunately we were also all drinking. A lot. She became too drunk to consent. I took care of her all night and despite her wanting to sleep together I just made sure that she was safe and secure and did not.
At our next time together she confessed that she couldn’t remember most of the later night and wanted to know what we had done. I told her exactly what happened and she was absolutely floored. She also said that she was planning to stay totally sober that night because she was not going to miss another opportunity to have me.
So I showed me. Who I am. And I received an incredible reward just by being myself and showing her who I am.
And now we are moving along and letting things develop naturally from a basis of honesty, communication and mutual desire and strength.
[–]shebecamedarkness 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't think OP is playing to win the big prize, just the easiest one.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah his reacts to some of the more toolish responses here seem to trend that way.
[–]Spazzy_maker 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's cringe honestly
[–]the-me-an 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Quite wholesome. Sometimes life does give some very amazing treats just because.
[–]willgo-waggins 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you.
I consider myself to be incredibly lucky and am treating this as such. I truly thought that at my age (51 m) that I would just be having casual fun and maybe an occasional dating run for the rest of my life. This came completely out of the blue and I am doing my absolute best to stay cool and not fuck it up.
[–]Citizen_Graves 111 points112 points113 points 4 years ago (30 children) | Copy Link
Demonstrate value
Engage physically
Nurture dependence
Neglect emotionally
Inspire hope
Separate entirely
You're welcome.
[–]Evacipate628 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's fetish- it's fetish shit! I-I-I like to bind, I like to be bound!
[–]Citizen_Graves 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tools! Gotta have my tools!
[–]billsmashole 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is advice from a 5 star man. He wouldn't give 4 or 3 star advice, only 5.
[–]_pathak 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
GOLD (If u know u know.)
[–]SizeOk9282 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Can you elaborate a lil?
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here you go
[–]Citizen_Graves 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Sure.
First you demonstrate your value to her. You could, for example, mention that you take care of your sick grandmother, therefore demonstrating what a kind and caring man you are.
Next you want to engage her physically, and the best way to do that is to set up a scenario in which you take her out on a date, but it turns out that the place you're going to is closed (which you secretly knew about, of course), so you propose a backup plan of pizza and a movie at your place, leading to sex.
After that, nurture her dependence on you; be her perceived protector and provider, make her grow to need you.
Having done all of that, your next step is to neglect her emotionally, causing her to fall into emotional distress. Just don't react to her calls or texts, don't meet her, simply ignore her. She won't know what is going on and naturally think that something is wrong with her. Her need for you will grow exponentially.
This is when you inspire her hope! You show up at her door or window to make amends for your distance. Tell her that you were afraid to love, afraid to be loved and scared of being hurt. But thanks to her, and her alone, you were cured of that fear, and that you're sorry. This will lead to the most passionate sex with her yet!
But once you're done and she's still sleeping, sneak out in the middle of the night to never be heard from again. Separate entirely. In most cases this will leave the door open for any future application of that system with the women you seduced!
Good luck!
[–]naughtychick9999 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You forgot your massive condom for your magnum dong
[–]Citizen_Graves 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Seems a bit desperate, no?
[–]naughtychick9999 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Only if it somehow falls out of your wallet so she can see it..
[–]Citizen_Graves 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you ever considered flashing a wad of cash?
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for making my night
[–]Pluglord 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
After that nurture her dependence on you; be her perceived protector and provider, make her grow to need you.
And how exactly do you do this?
[–]Citizen_Graves 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Well, once you've had sex with the woman she will, naturally, start to depend on you. All women do this. So you'll want to nurture that dependence that she's feeling for you now. Have her car towed, or, you could slash her tires; either way, make her depend on you for rides.
Alternatively, present yourself as her protector against angry neighbours or vicious stalkers (which you, of course, have machinated in a way that can't be traced back to you).
Be crafty and inventive!
[–]Hexagrvmm 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Joe? Is this you? (pun not intended)
[–]willgo-waggins -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Wow man!
Creep much?
These sort of things will come up naturally and if you are a gentleman you will act appropriately anyway.
Had a guy in this past weekend get in my girls face about her talking and laughing in a comedy show. I stepped in (not a fighter by nature but I don’t tolerate that sort of shit to a woman EVER) and defended her. When the theater guy came over and came at me she immediately jumped to my defense to tell him that I was protecting her because the guy was acting out angry.
This stuff will come by itself and doesn’t need some kind of creepy plot involving causing damage and creating a fake rescue.
Lay off the tv and movies there.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The OC is trolling the OP. It's from a scene in Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Check my link in the thread.
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah I saw it.
Never much liked that show.
[–]Zer0D0wn83 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This needs more down votes
[–]SizeOk9282 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you man!
[–]loofyd 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao this is the DENNIS model
WTF HAHA
This isn’t really good advice if you want more than a sex dependent nut case for your ego pump man.
The first two paragraphs are literally all I agree with. The rest is just creating a dependent ego boost and I would only do this uh never. It’s a dangerous game to play and pretty shitty at the same time. Also why a lot of women get damaged and those if us who are actually decent human beings have to clean up your mess.
You can show the first two in a normal and decent manner and then move into deciding if you want more, less or status quo and have that laid out through communication.
If I want dependence and obedience I’ll get a dog and train it.
[–]AnalogCyborg -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"If I want dependence and obedience I'll get a dog and train it."
To...to have sex with?
[–]cinamontastingroshi 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whoopsie I just dropped my magnum condom for my magnum dong
[–]DennisReynoIds 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Haha
[–]Citizen_Graves 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Golden God himself!
[–]tugnoot 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THE ICON OH MY GOD i wanted him to seem as if in mid conversation
[–]rediculus_jon 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The great thing about this system is that your friend or roommate can Move in After Completion on that chick
[–]loofyd 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you give a short example or basic description for each of these, tailored for beginners ?
EDIT : you already did, i see, thanks
[–]norwegiandoggo 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be an attractive man in all senses.
[–]Spazzy_maker 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Treat like a human being. Not as a object to be manipulated.
[–]SizeOk9282 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True..
[–]EpicJohnCenaFan 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't give it away easily. I find I literally never have to give validation to get results, and it works great.
Just give her attention when she's doing things you like, cut it down when she's not.
If you try and escalate and she refuses (asking for whatsapp, a date, whatever), then cut the attention, but the response depends on which part you tried to progress and the girl's situation.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
People who are feel inferior want the validation of someone they see as better than them. I’m not telling you to be an asshole, but treat her like she ain’t nothing without saying that she is nothing, if she feels that you don’t care about impressing her or saying things to make her like you, she will seek your validation.
But, if you do this to a random girl, you would be an asshole, do it to a girl you think likes you because she will care about what you do more, over a girl who doesn’t see you as anything special.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
This is some really insecure shit
[–]succcondese -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
he is speaking facts tho
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let him live in his fantasy world with rose tinted glasses
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
everyone does that right subconsciously and consciously to varying degrees, people make jokes at the expense of others, bully others mentally emotional and physically, people in relationships abuse their positions doing exactly this and ever wonder why people who are abused into relationships don’t try leave even tho shit is bad? This is why, they don’t think they can do any better so they stay
On the other hand, when a person think they can do better than you or are better than you, they cheat and treat you like shit. Ever wonder why people break up or cheat even if the relationship is great leaving the other partner confused, because they think they can do better than being with you.
Everyone is doing this, either you’re the inferior or the superior. If the president walks in the room, everyone gets up and greet him because they know he is superior, if you walk in the room, all you get is a quick stare because you wouldn’t be worth standing up and greeting for.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You didn't have to double down on the insecurity.
You're explaining bullying, abuse, and unjust hierarchies like they're okay. It's weird.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
What world do you live in, and what insecurity are you talking about. Every where you go, someone will think they’re better than you or vice versa and they will act accordingly, simple as that.
[–]willgo-waggins 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
If you are with a quality person and you are a quality person and you treat each other well none of this slop bucket of bull shit you describe will go on.
That’s a a crap macho view of things that is completely unnecessary.
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This guy gets it
I have parents that will celebrate 55 years together next June. My grandparents were close to 65 years. My brother and his wife just celebrated their 25th a couple of years ago and my sister and her husband 20. I have chosen poorly in my life before but I may have finally gotten lucky. Time will tell. But it doesn’t change who I am and what I bring to the table.
How you treat others is ultimately what will come back to you.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Divorce rate is more than 50%, if someone decides to get married then they thought of their partner as worth spending their lives with but 80% of marriage divorces are initiated by women. Why is that?
[–]IGetBoredSometimes23 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This doesn't have anything to do with your OC where you were saying that the only types of people are oppressed or the oppressor, and you must choose which one you want to be.
It's completely optional and reasonable to not want to have any oppressors, nor to want to oppress anyone. I'm in this category. I have no problem standing up for myself, setting boundaries, and I have no desire to oppress others. And I do great with women. It turns out that when you stop trying to own or control them, they love to fuck and they love being with you. When you're the one helping them be free, they want to be with you.
You just made a post asking for help with text messaging. Truth be told, if you hadn't made your OC I would have been happy to message you and help you since that's 100% my department. Your other comments show someone who is otherwise a reasonable person. But I'm selective af who I give advice to nowadays because this place is filled with fuckboys that want to just oppress others and hurt women.
Explaining insecurity doesn't make it not insecurity.
Bullying people doesn't make it come from a place of insecurity any less.
[–]SizeOk9282 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Interesting
[–]HughBeaumont500 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Become her pimp
[–]digitalindigo -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read "The Game" by Neil Strauss
[–]UrFavPlayerIsBack -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Validate and take it away give someone else
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How are you physically ? Are you a tall muscular guy, or are you a thinner guy?
[–]kittybrehbreh 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing happens without attraction!
[–]willgo-waggins 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be very careful of this.
I’m my experience I have found that women who need this are never going to get enough from just you no matter the status of your relationship.
[–]Mymomdidwhat 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why in the world would you want someone obsessed with you? This screams personality issues.
[–]JacobMoogberg69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Easy. Be me.
Be informed i guess become someone who’s opinion really matters. Load ur self up with experiences and speak in a calm steady manner
[–]Fair-Transition9149 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this sounds very controlly ngl, best girls are the ones who know their worth and what they want
[–]AelfredRex 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obsession is never a trait you want in a lover.
[–]Wonderful-Wolf-3856 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she’s subconsciously got you in her brain (body), smile give a hug & a kiss . All will be validated.
[–]humptyone 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually, all that is earned with the right lady. Many girls today know who they are. I told my daughter to never have to depend on a guy. There are to many toads out there now.
[–]ASIMILAK 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be a BOSS. Nah but really just show here that you’re a genuinely good and capable guy (you are right?) in addition to being a great communicator as well as clearly demonstrating or showing her that it is totally okay for her to be her real self around you..
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