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[–]Nicophoros4862 40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Every time I try to get a girl to like me, it hasn’t worked. Every girl I’ve ever attracted has been the result of an accident, either I just went up and talked to her with no intention other than simply to talk to her, or I’ve done something nice/helpful to her with no motive other than that. I think the point is don’t go out and specifically try to get a girlfriend. Just maximize the chances of an accident happening. At least that’s the strategy in currently pursuing since the more direct one has been useless
[–]Apprehensive_Ad_7091 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This comment!
[–]Narcan9 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's ironic because if you would just chill and be fun then more women would gravitate to you. Be one of the guys. Do guy things. Women like guys.
Instead you're probably a bit socially awkward, and give off a desperation vibe which pushes women away.
[–]totalwarwiser 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dont try too hard, that is the problem.
If you want someone you get performance anxiety and end up acting unnaturaly, which makes your behavior weird or make the girl unconfortable, which is a major turnof for women.
I guess that when you talk to an atractive girl your mind go into anxiety mode and kind of ruins everything.
Instead you should just chat, give her your full attention, be funny and interesting, show interest in her, give the ocasional real compliment, and escalate touch. Say she tells you that she did exercise and that made her muscles sore, you could lightly touch her back and asks if its hurting there, or when you want to leave the table you say you will be right back and touch her hand or thigh. If she says she is cold you get closer and you may embrace her. If you start the date siting oposite on the table and you get up for something then you return and sit beside her.
Basicaly you should do your best and dont worry too much about the outcome and act like you already knew her before and you are there just to have fun and be yourself and if it ends in a kiss or sex it would be great but its not required for the night, and also know that as much as she is judging if she wants to have something with you you are also wondering if you would like to have something with her. And you both increase emotional and physical intimacy until you eventualy find the oportunity to kiss.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This comment is what you need to read over and over. Learn to just enjoy being around people and getting to know who they really are instead of trying to force an outcome
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
HAVING A PLAN. It's the only thing that will free you up to have fun and get results.
I know it sounds counterintuitive, but if you don't know
You'll be thinking about those 2 points all the time. You'll be stifled. You won't know what to do at any given point. But most importantly you won't be able to LEAD the girls. They want to give you their hand and be GUIDED, and for that, you must know the path.
Pre-define what you want, draft an overall plan, but most importantly have decent logistics. Meaning, will you focus on getting day 2s? What is a cool chill spot you can go for that? Or do you have logistics that allow inviting them directly to your place to chill?
Fuck, after that, you can improvise/have fun all you want, like an artist that throws a 2h concert has a defined setlist and has rehearsed it a LOT OF TIMES. Of course they can improvise.
[–]JazzleRazzle 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is so on point. I recently went to the club and a really pretty Asian girl was trying to go home with me. I had gone out with zero expectations that night and no logistics were set up. I walked out with her but she wasn’t feeling me coming to her place. Also didn’t help that I was pretty sauced and couldn’t think of a solution on the fly. The whole thing fell apart and she left to find her friend.
Lol so yeah. Plan to play or don’t play at all.
[–]totalwarwiser 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeap.
Having a place always prepared to receive women in a pleasant way helps a lot. That is why you should always have it tight and clean. Knowing about drinks and having it at home also helps.
Also there is no harm in inviting women over even if you dont expect to have sex that day, and its demeaning to do so because you hold no expectations.
[–]AelfredRex 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry about liking the girl until you actually know her. Lust comes before like, so just be in mutual lust and let things happen naturally.
[–]Lotus_82 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Confirmed multiple times she was coming”.
So you asked her more than once to confirm she was really coming?
Because if you did not only did it put pressure on her to go (no one wants to feel pressured to go out, even to a party) but it also made you look a little desperate and insecure, like you NEEDED her to come.
It would have been more productive to be cool about it and act like you were going on have an amazing night whether she came or not.
Have you talked to her since then?
[–]RangersFan243 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
How do you have girls coming up to you I need to work on that
[–]TheLuckOfGatsby 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
be hot. workout
[–]JazzleRazzle 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
He said that he’s attractive.
I can relate. I’ve had girls approaching since the 4th grade and my gf in my early 20s told me that I was a pretty boy. Being tall and athletic is icing on the cake.
Genetics only get you so far tho. Body language, your vibe and what comes out your mouth are obvious factors in pulling girls.
[–]RangersFan243 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Is 5’9 too short
[–]JazzleRazzle 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
No. I have a coworker who is that height and he has smashed at least 16 girls in the two years I’ve known him. He even has a dad bod but the dude is attractive in the face and spits game like a damn machine gun.
[–]RangersFan243 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
What should I look at first to help me with everything?
[–]JazzleRazzle 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I don’t understand your question.
[–]RangersFan243 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How do I spit game like where should I srart
[–]Lotus_82 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Body language and other non visual cues. 90% of all communication is non verbal and it’s absolutely crucial to be able to read and understand the signals women send and know how to react accordingly, because she WILL send you signals if she wants to have sex and she will send you signals if she wants you to talk to her and get her phone number and she will send you signals if you’re making her uncomfortable and she thinks you’re a creep. But you’ve gotta be able to pick up on those cues and understand them.
[–]RangersFan243 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gotcha thanks. I did screw up and get left on read by some girl I met so trying to pick up on those things to make it easier. Thanks bro
[–]RangersFan243 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What should I look into?
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How tall are you?
[–]JazzleRazzle 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
6 foot
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being tall is a cheat code in attracting girls. THAT’S A FACT!
[–]KingoftheNorth412 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you just want to lose your virginity just fuck a fat chick or a chick below your standards.
[–]FlanneryODostoevsky 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As you go to parties and maybe approach or talk to girls, keep reminding yourself youre not weird and that theres a girl that is going to be attracted to you, a girl who also wants what you want. Remind yourself you have spmething to offer beyond sex and try to become better or more knowledgeable in those areas. And then just talk to girls about their interests and your interests, never exclusively one or the other.
[–]Sudden_Row7058 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you can laugh your virginity off you can literally smash the same day. Like if any girl ever brings it up just say that you’re a virgin with a cordial smirk or goofy face. Adds mystery, you’re not lying and she might think you’re a funny guy.
[–]_Rynzler_ 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont worry about it. The correct girl will come. Im also not that bad looking and i never had a clue what to do with women. You just learn with time. Some take longer to learn some take less.
[–]Touch-Slight 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had the same problem as you attractive never made the first move in my whole life cause girls always would talk to me first. I only lost my virginity when I was 20. I just used that to my advantage and fake confidence and learn how to read girls body language, eye contact and having logistics. minimizing small talk is the most important thing I learned when in person if you just get close enough and learn to read the cues you can dive head on to making out with them with no hesitation. Remember this is only after you got them back to your place and they get comfortable some effort will have to be made at whatever party or place you’re at. also in the beginning you don’t have to approach the top tier girls especially if you just wanna get a lay in trust me 5-7s 80% chance of hooking up with you on a first date if you an above average looking dude.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
You don't get tired man? Everyday I see you commenting this size bs. Get over it and stop projecting your insecurities onto something. Face it. Height doesn't matter. I have a big retarded nose, and when I thought looks mattered, well, they mattered. When I stopped giving a FUCK, I started improving and getting results.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Height does matter. You’re tall so you won’t understand
[–]williamroberthoss 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m tall but it seems to make zero difference. A friend much shorter thank me pulls all the girls when we go out. I’ve still never pulled off a ONS. working on confidence and myself to get there. Sounds corny but true game comes from within…. Maybe height gives some an advantage just not me. Not yet.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
How tall r u?
[–]williamroberthoss 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Freakishly tall. Like 6’5”. The funny thing is if I’m out and about and see a guy as tall as me or taller I’ll freak out like “look how tall that guy is!!” Lol. I think I hunch a bit due to lack of self esteem but it’s something I’m working on.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bruh. With your height, you can get any girl you want
[–]williamroberthoss 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
History has proven otherwise. That’s why I’m here. Talking w guys no problems. As soon as I get by a good looking girl it all goes out the window.
[–]ARGUS_99 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually contrary to mens opinion that taller the better, this is false
research has suggested that ideal male height desirability for most women is from 5'11 to 6'3''
This is without women knowing the numbers, just through eye test.
Oddly though, this is also the height requirements of male models, they have to be within this threshold lol
[–]dogjay100 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm shortish, 5'10 but a good face. And don't have any issues.
[–]Sudden_Row7058 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My niqqus. I am 5’9”, have a potential for a cute face but got a blob of fractured nose that ruins everything and just getting in shape. I still get looks and girls opening to me at the bars. You’re right that height matters. My tall, good looking friend gets hit on 5x as much as I. But it’s not end of all if you’re not tall. Just more of an upside battle.
[–]Appropriate_Ad3327 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure lol
[–]Woujo 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Do you have any friends that are girls?
[–]CIOUDDY 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not really :/
[–]Woujo 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok that's your first step. You need to learn to just hang out with girls and be normal without trying to fuck them all the time. You are probably too desperate, weird, and needy, which comes off as unattractive.
[–]maplemario 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you post a screenshot of your texts with her?
[–]IBeSomebooty 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hey man you can't force chemistry, don't force sex. only have sex with girls you want unless you just want a one night stand with someone else once in a while, and nothing is wrong with that.
you need to flirt in order to get something started. make her comfortable by being less of a creep and being nonchalant. lead her, say your going to ur place for drinks or a movie or something you wanna show her, or netflix. whatever. dim the lights, break out the wine, order pizza, cuddle. tell her she feels soft and that its driving you crazy. simple things like that will turn her on. when shes showing signs of being submissive you make moves like kiss, pull away, tell her "you have no idea what I wanna do to you right now" will make her mind turn into scrambled eggs, and she won't be able to stop thinking about it until it happens, and if shes showing signs of rejection when shes still flirting back or kissing 'No i should stop' "yeah I know i cant believe this is happening, we have such good chemistry"
they want a story to tell their friends like "it just happened like something magical like a movie" so they dont seem like sluts for having sex with you, if they never met you
[–]FederalBlood 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My suggestion is too practice making small talk with random strangers (men or women) and not trying to go out with the sole intention on trying to hookup or find a gf. If you’re a fun, pleasant person to hang out with you’ll attract people to you.
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