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[–][deleted] 74 points75 points76 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I disagree with
2) For the sake of your mental health and sanity- stay away from crazy people in general. Don't tolerate disrespect or "crazy" just because she's hot.
[–]External_Ad_4802 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fair enough. I can totally see your reasoning
[–]Stormbreaker_98 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Disagree with 3. It's not about cheating. Its about morality. In my eyes breach of trust is a moral crime and supporting a crime is as bad as doing it.
Disagree with 5. many times ( examples more than 10 in number) we get the same frequency people when are in the same course. So classmates is good with me. Colleagues and neighbour to some extent. Depends on if you sync. Have seen long term relationship between neighbour.
Ahh! 9 is hard for me. I am the first to open up. That means she knows more about me that I know about her. Rest of my problems are communication skill related
Good points thanks for sharing!
[–]External_Ad_4802 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree with you, supporting a crime is just as bad as doing it, and I used to feel guilty when I was younger. I definitely wouldn’t want my girlfriend to cheat on me. I know what I’m doing is morally wrong, but I don’t feel bad for doing it.
People that study and work together spend a lot of time in the same environment, it’s only natural that some sort of attraction occurs, I’ve been in situations like that. But I have the mindset of “There are so many hot chicks out there, I don’t need to bang these ones here”. Because I feel things could be awkward the next day at work or in class if I we have sex. I know people that got married to their neighbors, classmates or colleagues. Kudos to them, but I just feel it’s best I avoid that.
I definitely will not advise you to change your personality or open less with girls, you should always be yourself. But there are ways that you can use it to your advantage.
Girls love it when they meet a guy that is confident in himself and not afraid to open up or be vulnerable, it makes them feel comfortable and want to open up more too, that’s why I use rule 27 to my advantage (sometimes with selective honesty).
There’s nothing wrong in being the first to open up. Just work on your communication skills and also take advantage of how you open up, and make sure you know a bit about her too & what she wants.
[–]Stormbreaker_98 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are gem of a person. Thanks for the added knowledge you gave. I value people who give personalised information.
I do have confidence issues and lot of social skills problems. Lot of work and I am already 24 so it's tough. I used to open up everything now learning to be selectively honest on occasions. I do relapse back to the cliched "nice guy" Type. I try to know about her but most times the convo becomes dry and she giving dry replies.
About the classmate point I meant long term relationship. ONS and casual sex sure feels awkward agreed on that.
[–]p00psicle151590 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
If shes too easy to fuck, dont value her?
Why are you that easy to fuck if you're agreeing to sleep with her? Double standard imo.
[–]RealHumanBeing2021 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. This is the one rule I’ve had contrary experience with irl. Every girl I’ve had sex with on the first date were some of the most loyal gf’s I’ve ever had.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree 100%, you can't judge someone by how easy is it to fuck them and you don't know if that person fucks a lot of people, or everyone on the first date etc. Judge them by their character.
[–]dragon_loyalty 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He didn't say "don't value her", he said "you won't value her" which is a big difference.
[–]likelyilllike 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Come one, his all notion sounds like fuckbuddy and counting fucks he had received.
[–]0din23 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Half of those are copied from How I Met Your Mother.
[–]External_Ad_4802 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
2,3,4 and 35 were inspired from HIMYM (Definitely not half lol)
And unfortunately I had to learn them the hard way before watching the show.
[–]DaydreamingMister 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha Cool. Saw some accuracy there.
Had never heard of FORD method. Prolly will add it to the toolbox. Thanks.
[–]Animetingz 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only thing I don't agree with is number 17! Me and my ex would see this in restaurants all the time and we both agreed that it was weird, and I still think that. You have two seat why sit on the same fuckin side. Give the girl some space, shit give me my fuckin space I need my elbow room!
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
#10 should be rule #1. "Men like what they see, women like what they hear. You have to communicate with a girl very well and tell her the right things."
Say the right words, in the right way and she'll start to imagine what you're saying in her mind. As she continues to imagine these delicious thoughts her body will respond with feelings (she'll get horny) and she'll associate all those lovely images and feelings with you, because you were man enough to speak to her like a man.
[–]External_Ad_4802 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on. I couldn’t have said this any better myself.
[–]BluePsychosisDude2 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I was iffy on #3, but lean towards that. If the girl is capable of being seduced by a guy, then somebody is probably going to do it. Unfortunately (or fortunately) the nature of the game is that most women in relationships still respond with attraction to men who escalate with them, it's just that most have the good sense to remind themselves they are married/have a boyfriend and stop themselves.
But honestly if a girl had a boyfriend/husband and still was DTF I'd probably go for it, although I haven't encountered that yet.
[–]External_Ad_4802 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, someone will probably do it. Because of the nature of the game, attraction is natural and will always be there regardless of if the woman is in a relationship or not. All it takes is for the right guy to escalate it. But like you said, most women remind / stop themselves from doing this.
I used to feel guilty banging peoples’ gf, but when I realized the nature of the game, a whole lot changed for me. I haven’t banged a married woman yet, but if she’s DTF, I’d def go for it.
[–]Saint_Knowles 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'll browse this sub fairly regularly for a week, think "hey r/seduction isn't as toxic as other people say a lot of grounded reasonable advice for attracting women, and then I'll see a post like this and lose most of that good faith.
[–]External_Ad_4802 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you followed rule 5, you wouldn’t be avoiding your ex at work now 😂
Jokes apart man, nothing I say should be taken serious. Just here to share my experience
[–]Saint_Knowles 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol fair enough man. I've always been of the mind dating or sex shouldn't be conpletely off the table with your coworkers it depends on the work environment. Like reteraunts where waitresses are banging the cooks. And that kind of nuance was the criticism I was raising to your post, not that a lot of your rules aren't valid.
[–]NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Disagree: 5, 26, 34. 5) been with 5 women from work. One gave birth to my child and another turned out to be amazing. We dated for 6 years & ended amicably (possible when one controls their ego and not the other way 'round). We work next to each other every day and are still friends. 26 & 34 go together because here is where 99.9% of men fail: learn how to show and thereby trigger romantic feelings in a woman while on a date. If you talk about her brother it's like throwing a bucket of water on that spark you're trying to create. Mention her brother while having sex, see what happens. You have to spend the date trying to increase her buying temperature by having the right conversation. "Tell me what it feels like when you're connecting with someone. Describe your first kiss. Have you ever had butterflies in someone's presence." It's called transference and it works like this: you get the woman to describe all the good feelings that you want her to have and then she will begin to associate those good feelings with being around you. It's the difference between having a dating plan that yields positive results and just winging it and "hoping" she likes you. If you date in this manner you will see the kiss from hours away and be in control of when it happens. Most guys fail by avoiding romantic topics and then the kiss at the end of the date is awkward af because her attraction was never sparked. Remember the point of dating, my dudes: to increase her attraction and turn that spark into a raging fire. Good post (spot on), thanks for sharing!
Thanks for reading, and for the feedback.
Spot on about the part where 99% of men fail. Most guys play it safe & fail to trigger those romantic feelings and end up being awkward or in the friendzone. The point is to be in control and turn that spark into a raging fire.
I am curious though, what line of work are you into?
[–]yurifca 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There is so much I disagree with I can't even start
[–]yurifca 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never have a dinner or movie as a first date. Never go after a neighbor, classmate or colleague. Never chase.
Never have a dinner or movie as a first date.
Never go after a neighbor, classmate or colleague.
Never chase.
These are all too arbitrary to be considered. A lot of those 'rules' are absolutely case sensitive and are not rules by any means
[–]External_Ad_4802 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re right, these are arbitrary and nothing should ever stop anyone from going after a colleague / classmate or watching a movie as a first date. I even know people that got married to their classmates.
These are just my own rules that I go by, they’re case sensitive and I don’t think it’s something that everyone must follow.
I’ve had bad (and a few good) experiences going after my neighbors / classmates when I was younger, but the negatives outweighed the positives. That’s why I avoid it.
These are solely based on my own personal experiences & are not “rules” per se.
[–]External_Ad_4802 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m open for discussions, we learn everyday :)
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I swear this sub is full of psychopaths.
Besides me being willing to bang someone’s gf or wife (something not only psychopaths do). I’m curious, what has made you come to the opinion that I am a psychopath?
[–]narcissistic889 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL just people figuring things out it seems like and not understanding social rules/ boundaries
[–]The0rangeKind 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you’re not wrong but tbf, there’s psychopaths in every sub and more in certain ones than others
[–]Hayden_Beroc 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
why not use husband or boyfrind condom if you don't have one on you? some pls explain
[–]LandscapeClear1630 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A girl is allowed to be crazy, as long as she’s equally hot.
I mean... what level of crazy are we talking here?
[–]foghatyma 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I disagree with 15th heavily. Basically in my eyes there are three types of relationships: 1) One night stands: Waiting with sex doesn't make sense here. 2) Short term / FWB: Again, doesn't make sense. 3) Long term: If someone is so uninteresting and has so little value in your life that waiting with sex could be a factor then how could this work in a long term?
And 22-25 (especially 22) should be applied at all times to all people, not just when a girl you want something with is present.
[–]LadyHorneeCentaur 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Allowed" to be crazy as long as she's hot, gtfo you arrogant pos
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The urge to get women really leads some of you guys to be absolute pieces of shit tbh
[–]bskslsksld 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I disagree with 19, I am not paying for anyone on first date. I will pay for second, if she has a problem we won’t be going for a date.
[–]murphman1999 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Never use the boyfriend’s or husband’s condoms.
WHERE DID THIS ONE COME FROM!? GOSSSHH haha
Never sit across the table on the first date. Sit next to her.
If by "sitting next to her", you mean at a 4-chair square table -- fine. At any other table configuration, that sounds exhausting
Go on your first date to a place you know reasonably well that is within 10 minutes drive or walk to your house.
What's the purpose for this one? Why not her house?
Use the FORD method. Get her talking about her Family, her Occupation, Recreation and her Dreams.
The D should definitely stand for Dog
Haha Idk, I just feel using their condoms is bad luck or a bad omen lol, but that’s definitely one of the less serious rules to me.
I never have any trouble sitting next to a girl in any seating configuration. It works perfectly fine for me.
The location of the date is based on the assumption that it’s agreed to be held at a neutral venue. No reason for not having the date at her house, even better... have the first date at your house if you can.
[–]Ankwilco 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never sitting across the table (or in a park), yeah. Agreed.
[–]Interesting-Brief202 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I disagree with 28 but otherwise great list
[–]External_Ad_4802 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That’s probably the last thing I thought anyone would disagree on, on the list 😂
[–]joblessnutjob 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes .....the ones that disagree with that one are the ones that give all men a bad name. Nothing white about that lie. Douche is the adjective.
[–]Interesting-Brief202 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I do what I have to do to get laid. A little white lie never killed anyone
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[–]Interesting-Brief202 -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You do whatever you gotta do to get pussy. Lie, cheat, steal. Any qualms you have means less pussy for you
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who hurt you?
[–]Interesting-Brief202 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nobody. I thought seduction was about getting your cock wet? Do what you gotta do. DOn't tell me you never told a little white lie to do it.
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[–]External_Ad_4802 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Then you could say the same for almost everything on this subreddit.
[–]Tall_Dirt8866 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thx for sharing
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[–]External_Ad_4802 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I have nothing to explain or prove to you. If you think I’m lying then skip this post and move on back to Egypt or wherever you came from.
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[–]Conscious-Trifle-137 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
What did this guy ever do to you though? He’s just giving advice and most of it is good, what does it matter where he got it from?… some people man, always ready to criticize for no reason
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[–]Conscious-Trifle-137 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s what people do when they get offended though, tough guy…
[–]External_Ad_4802 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Skip this post and move on back to Egypt or wherever you came from” is an insult? My goodness, the internet never ceases to amaze me
the dude probably lives in Egypt and therefore took it as an insult lol
[–]External_Ad_4802 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lmao if you think some fool from the internet can hurt my feelings then you have no idea who I am
[–]thebookofrook 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
28 and 11 are the same. 18 is not a rule (universally applicable) some women will find that to be a major red flag.
[–]remarque55 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i disagree with 15
[–]eydriyans 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for these profound rules mate. I learned some stuff. Also, i totally agree with #4
[–]FalconVita 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Number 8 is the best advice.
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