Misogyny is the biggest game killer there is

sockaccount12348 · 2020-10-31T08:00:37+00:00

I think the summary you’re going for is: stop overanalyzing and overthinking things.

I agree, misogyny isn’t a winner. But there is a balance and being a floor mat isn’t good either.

Treat women like Norma humans and don’t expect or put up with any more or any less front them than you’d expect from a guy.

sockaccount12348 · 2020-10-31T06:50:59+00:00

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vozmozhnost · 2020-10-31T00:16:38+00:00

I agree that misogyny is a huge game killer, but beyond the first paragraph I don’t follow your argument. To note of the quality of a person’s character is not misogyny.

Most advice I’ve seen encourages guys to hold frame above all and recommends shooting your shot and then moving on the moment she seems genuinely uninterested in you. They say to keep an abundance mentality and move on.

Who is teaching guys they’re entitled to anyone’s genitals? Do you have any example of the advice you’re critiquing?

WeakEmu8 · 2020-10-31T00:11:51+00:00

Meh, shit tests are real, and never ending (even if you're married).

The problem is seeing them as a negative, instead of a mechanism women use to assess an attribute about you. They're also a way to be playful.

A secure man isn't put off by such assessments, but sees them as a fun part of the push-pull dynamic. Sadly the name "shit test" is a bit pejorative. A better term would help.

You're spot on about attitude. It should all be a fun time.

atomant88 · 2020-10-31T00:39:26+00:00

very true. im nice as fuck and women love me. be yourself, be confident, communicate clearly, show romantic desire, hold yourself with dignity. its not that hard

Borednudes · 2020-10-31T10:58:51+00:00

I somewhat agree but I still think you’ve got the wrong idea, I’ve been around game for a long time. Almost a decade now, i started back when it was just underground forums of guys posting infields. At some point your going to outgrow the things you learn here, you stop being this guy who is thinking of techniques and you truly start internalising what you learn, it becomes natural.

I don’t think about technique at all when I’m with a girl, I just do the stuff I learned back then naturally. It’s enforced through thousands of repetitions. It’s like if you start playing guitar, you’ll be consciously thinking about where your fingers go and what your doing. After a while of practise and repetition, you start thinking about scales and notes. You’re no longer thinking of how to fret the strings and how your going to get your finger to that other fret. The same is true with game and success with women.

seducingcaliph · 2020-10-31T14:42:52+00:00

this is all wrong man. seduction aint fucking kindergarten, its WAR. its worse than war, there at least you can get a decent look at the man you're shooting. Here its all about what's not said and who has more power (for which the calculation is done on completely arbitary and stupid lines, fucking a lot of women or being the leader of a group of idiots is not power)

But, shit being shit we gotta accept what we get. A nice way of defeating your foe is to dehumanize them, think of them as mindless beasts who deserve slaying. Think of women the same. Treat them like objects instead of people, no think of them as objects. fully embrace the game. Only this way can you succeed!

fakenewsnews · 2020-10-31T17:05:30+00:00

More feminist nonsense bringing down the sub.

TheMailmanic · 2020-10-31T03:18:55+00:00

Be yourself, create your own inner natural game, and cleanse your brain of PUA.

Awesome advice... vague, not action oriented, and won't get anyone laid. 10/10. Thanks for your service to mankind.

TheFeistyNun · 2020-10-31T04:38:20+00:00

It all boils down to seeing your efforts as transactional or not.

As a woman I’ve struggled with this theme in friendships. If you’ve always been taught that you can achieve anything by hard work and grit, it’s kind of a bummer to realize it doesn’t apply to all fields of life. And that you can invest a shit ton of time and money on a friendship and still not be guaranteed with a fun and loyal friend that can stand the test of time.

I think dating is the same. As soon as you view it transactional, place expectations on someone based on your level of investment, the other person feels that and will start looking for ways to slither out from underneath your heavy blanket of expectations. And poof.

But I’m also aware from personal experience that it’s a difficult cycle to break, when your confidence gets blow after blow. So good luck out there and don’t be too hard on yourselves.

eyesopen1111 · 2020-10-31T10:56:25+00:00

There is the type of seduction that's when you fuck a girl in the bathroom of a club or party 15 minutes after meeting her and the type of emotionally connected seduction that takes longer but is more common. Sometimes seduction is treating a woman like an object. Sometimes she needs or wants that for release. This is a seduction forum, not a woman's study course.

mehregan_zare7731 · 2020-10-31T14:43:42+00:00

Women love nice guys because they can play them around. They friendzone them and date a jerk instead and when that fails they expect the nice gut to be their friend. Many times I see sweet and nice guys start to hate women for how they get treated. They never get the live they give back do in order to get some love they become the horrible men with games and secrets you deserve.

Ari_Baby_ · 2020-10-31T18:11:30+00:00

Totally agree with this!

Actual nice guys are sooo hot.

"Nice guys" you can tell from a mile away and it's just super creepy ugh...

Plus, word spreads. Sometimes even with guys who seem super nice, if they were creepy or desperate with one person that word gets around and then everyone else knows how much of a creep they are and it essentially kills their chances with anyone else.

Umbran_scale · 2020-10-31T19:21:18+00:00

"Just like you don't wanna sleep with the majority of women on Earth." Speak for yourself, if the monstergirl genre has taught me anything it's that if it has human looking tits and ass, most guys will want to fuck it.

On a more serious comment, I do genuinely wonder why people actually label themself as a 'nice guy' as the title itself is kind of a derogatory statement nowadays in light of their self entitlement, kinda like how edgelords are frowned upon in the eyes of the many.

Like seriously, if anyone's frequented reddit long enough has at some point seen or heard of the Niceguy sub and the vitriolic content someone with that name has and should at least have some general idea of what not to say to a stranger over the internet.

AgeAromatic7208 · 2021-03-08T11:08:36+00:00

Lol as if male feminist are drowning in pussy

Title	Misogyny is the biggest game killer there is
Author	sockaccount12348
Upvotes	62
Comments	56
Date	October 30, 2020 11:53 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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