Giving up already, because I'm aware it's all a fucking lie. I'm the opposite of everything women want. Fact.

BonerProbs123 · 2015-12-18T10:14:46+00:00

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. You know why you can't get laid. You said it yourself. However, any and every guy can and deserves to get laid. With enough effort shit happens. Things get better. You CAN be happy, you CAN get laid, you CAN stop being a misanthrope/misogynist, but you've already made the mental decision not to by saying that you're incapable of it. If I were you I'd start by seeing a therapist. Then you need to change your mindset on women and people in general. They are not vessels of meat for you to stick your dick into. If you want to treat them as such you CAN pay for it. Why are you so opposed to paying for it? With your current attitude paying someone to take your virginity is the most practical thing to do. I'm sorry to say that I don't think you deserve to lose it another way. Not with this attitude. Eventually yes, you deserve the best, but you need to make some changes in your life and it won't be easy.

Spongebobs_Asshole · 2015-12-18T12:31:02+00:00

This is bullshit.

Stop focusing on girls.

Go out every night, until closing time, for two weeks and meet people. I don't care if "people" is dudes, or 60yo women, or whatever. Just get some adderall or red bull or whatever and go to bars solo for 14 days and push yourself to start up conversations with randos and make friends. Some of these will inevitably either be or lead to attractive women.

Push your comfort zone. Don't do it for girls, do it for you. It'll make you a different person.

TheMinistryOfAwesome · 2015-12-18T11:24:45+00:00

OP is the guy who posted about getting flaked on with online ads.

- If that's your attitude, and you think you have no chance. Then get a good fucking hobby and enjoy never having sex or any kind of relationship with anybody.

I'm in my 30s, I live in a city with nobody i know apart from a couple of schoolmates from back in the day. I live 200 miles from my social group or work mates and am currently living with my brother, while buying property.

2 years ago, I broke up with my LTR gf, I hated my job ( was being worked to the bone ) was totally fat and horrific in terms of weight (i think the highest was 137kg) - always a big guy but noticably fat. All my very good friends had kind of evaporated during the time and I basically had some associates.

Having spent nearly a decade focusing on my life with the girl i loved I'd pretty much sacrificed any real drive to advance my career into the world of exceptional - I wasn't (and am still not) sure whether it was my true calling - I had plans to move away from the UK and follow the dream.

IT all came crashing down:

I'm by no means a pretty boy (I think i'm average and I suspect that gets good looking as I get cut up a bit - same for most people - check out /r/progresspics to see the difference)
Fat cunt
Fuck all friendship circles
Female associates rather than friends
No real social life.

Now thing aren't 100% better. But the're a fuckton better than they were. Even when i was fat I was landing some pretty hot girls. Some i'd simply walk up to, pick up, spin, dance and then kiss (inside of 2mins). Just gotta be bold about it. Some will tell you're they're lesbian, some will say they have boyfriends, some will have their friends pull them away saying "no no, you can do better!" but boldness survives and wins.

If you throw a thousand punches by kicking out your foot, then yes you'll fail 1000 times. You kind of have to listen to the advice and put some of it into practice - if you're doing it correct, in principle, then i'd bet a good sum of money you wont be rejected 1000 times.

"Those who can and those who can't are usually both correct" Best words spoken ever.

Stop being a self defeating bitch - there are enough people in the world who will shit on you without you having to do it to yourself - and instead of going out appraoching for success. I challange you this:

You have 1 week to go out and tell 100 girls the following: "I think you're really cute and wanted to meet you. What's your name?"

Have a conversation, and at the end of the conversation say:

"Give me your number, so we can hang out again"

See how many rejections you can collect - if you get 100 i'll be impressed. /r/100sets -> post your utter failure there - or get the fuck out.

honey_pie · 2015-12-18T13:01:24+00:00

Your whole life is a mess, it's bigger than a women issue.

Imagine if you could get sex easily just by offering it up. Would you want to sleep with someone who was such a mess as you? No. Well, this is the same for women, even an ugly woman can get sex easily.

You want people to tell you that you have no chance so you can shirk all responsibility and carry on feeling sorry for yourself. Well it's bullshit, what you are is all in your control. People that weigh 500lbs can become healthy, as you can sort your life out and handle the social world. It just takes some sustained effort and discipline.

You don't need to be Mr Perfect to get laid, you just need to be mr not-completely-socially-retarded.

What you need to do;

Exercise, in public. I suggest running for now. This will get you the fuck out the house, make you feel better, make you look better, and give you some interest that's not jacking off to anime all day or whatever the fuck it is you do.

Start talking to people. Not people you are attracted to, just people. Men, old people, whatever. Start with business conversations, like asking where things are. You're going to feel dumb but tough shit. That's the point, to make you manage and face and overcome your fear. Then progress to a few sentences. Do it more. Then find a social situation and start talking to people. Maybe a bar, maybe a walking group, or whatever you want. You'll fail sometimes and some people will think you're weird but you keep going because you need to progress. Repeat. Start becoming a regular somewhere. Then you start to develop a few people who you might consider somewhat in the realm of 'friend'. View it like you are playing an RPG. You keep trying and progressing onto the next level. You have to beat 'basic social ability' world before unlocking female world. Right now you are sitting in the lobby complaining that the door to the first boss is locked and refusing to enter the door that is open to you that would help you progress.

Eldrith2 · 2015-12-18T13:02:44+00:00

There's nothing wrong with you. You hate women, and you think women hate you. You don't want a relationship, you can't get one. So, what the fuck is this post objective? You have assumed that you can't get a woman and you don't want a women in your life, nor friends.

If you just want sex go out and pay for it but remember:

“The gods gave men two gifts to entertain ourselves before we die. The thrill of fucking a woman who wants to be fucked, and the thrill of killing a man who wants to kill you.”

So just tell us, what's wrong ? why are you complaining? I just don't understand. (No sarcarsm)

563967325 · 2015-12-18T19:56:36+00:00

I'm having issues too. Do you want to team up as mutual support partners? I encourage you to approach people, and you encourage me to.

optimusderp · 2015-12-18T10:36:51+00:00

I get the feeling youve never done a single approach.

Aeon199 · 2015-12-18T17:17:23+00:00

Dude you're not even playing the cards you've been dealt. You can clearly write and you say you can draw so you have no better option than to become a writer, self publish if you have to, and consider becoming an artist. You will have fucking groupies if you play your cards right. And lift weights. (I prefer kettlebells.) You have no right to bitch and complain until you have tried to become a professional writer and an artist.

functionequalsform · 2015-12-18T20:18:51+00:00

Hahah you think these things like jobs and age matter. You ever see 2 wonderful looking people together in public? Sometimes rich, sometimes poor. They're brought together by the simple fact of they give what they have to each other. My last 10$? It's yours babe. 3 hours total this week to socialize? They're your 3 hours babe. It's not... How much you give, or what you give, it's what you can give. Give your time, give your trust and all that shit.

Your mental disposition is the biggest obstacle here. If you realize in the back of your mind that you'll meet someone eventually who loves you from every angle and decibel, you'll see that your mind at ease is the biggest attraction about you. You're ok.

Odysseylu · 2015-12-19T01:44:08+00:00

You need to work on your self first, i was a fucked up mess when i was younger i was super awkward and insecure and shy, and life was hard man, i was too afraid to even wear a T shirt. And i got real sick of it so i just googled every single problem i had and spent like 4 hours a day just reading on the internet and i made a notepad on every useful webpage i found. i still have it saved today and i still use it to help me become a better person everyday. i can send you the notepad if you want.

_zerofoxgiven_ · 2015-12-18T11:10:31+00:00

Dude, if this is your general attitude in life I wouldn't even want to hang out with you as a guy, it's no wonder you're frustrated with girls. You've made a lot of mistakes in some of your basic assumptions here. I don't want to write a long post detailing them all, because I don't think it would help you much at this stage in your development, but I want to address the most important thing.

the consensus is this: "Be an amazing, impressive man who has a very active life and achieves a lot of things"

That's not the consensus, if there even is one. A more accurate summary would be: become an authentic, congruent individual who behaves in a way that is attractive to the kind of women you want to spend time with. This is achievable for every man (that's not saying that it's easy).

It is society that tells you to live an active life and achieve things, in seduction this is optional.

maxnarvaes · 2015-12-18T15:04:19+00:00

You can't get girls in your current state, just pay already and get over it.

Chronica · 2015-12-18T16:46:30+00:00

Not all women are like you think. I'm no social butterfly. My husband is a lot more social than I am. I HATE having conversations with mostly.. well.. everybody. I think what would be a good thing for you to do is spend a lengthy time online or through text chatting with potential females before trying to meet them. Build a friendship up through exchanges whether it takes weeks or months eventually you two will get so intertwined and connected with your everyday lives that you'll yearn to meet up. You just need to find a girl that's similar to you. She's out there and she is just as shy and pure as you are. I strongly believe that when it comes to finding a quality friend or a partner in life it's all a numbers game. You have to get through a bunch of BS before you find something you're compatible with. The process can make you jaded and it can feel defeating but the prize is worth it.

SPIN_SIR · 2015-12-18T17:13:31+00:00

Lower your standards

letsgetrandy · 2015-12-18T17:55:11+00:00

Your anger. Good gods. If you were in the US, you could just buy an assault weapon and shoot up a movie theater.

Look, dude. If you want to lose your "v card", you can pay someone to do the job. It's money well spent. I mean, look how angry you are about it right now, and compare that to how much you would willingly spend on a video game or some other bullshit that won't make you happy.

Seriously. Pay a pro, get it over with, and stop being such a tool.

TAway0 · 2015-12-18T18:49:15+00:00

"Be an amazing, impressive man who has a very active life and achieves a lot of things"

Your alternative is to "Be an average, unimpressive man who has a very sedentary life and achieves nothing."

Forget women, go do something that makes you happy. You have deeper issues, and that is your kryptonite. Your are saying that you have nothing to offer, which is getting at a deeper question.

You don't hate women (or people). You wouldn't be trying to get laid (without paying) if you hated women. You hate yourself.

Go do something that makes you happy, and figure out things that make you like yourself. Fuck everything else, it's beyond your capabilities right now.

Come back when you like yourself. Come back when you realize that you have something to offer. Come back when you have a purpose in life. Maybe your purpose is simply to conquer this self-hatred. I have no idea.

One thing, however, is certain. Pontificating on the internet about how much loser you are is not going to help you.

Go do something that matters.

Go do something that matters to you.

lostfuture · 2015-12-18T19:26:34+00:00

fuck autistic gals-- or pay for poon, you're too proud but hate yrself?

Aeon199 · 2015-12-20T06:21:22+00:00

Something else to consider here:

What about the "indirect naysayer" which I have seen many times in Seddit, like this one: "I realized I have crippling approach anxiety, and just genuinely don't know how to express myself sexually in words, past "I think you're cute". I figured, AA will get better if I at least approach, and after doing an indirect approach which went shit (as you'd aspect from an indirect) and not feeling the relieving feeling people describe after approaching, I resigned myself do dancing with my friends. The only time I'm able to get any progress in game is when dancing at more "social clubs" or parties, as I'm a great dancer,so I take advantage of that. If there's any talking involved though I somehow screw it up. The worst part is that I'm extremely extroverted, and have always prided myself with having good social skills, have won speech competitions, and am good at improvising as I have been a magician for a few years. The fact that I can't connect with girls really frustrates me because I know I have it in me. After every night out with no progress, I feel really down and depressed. I'm thinking I should just work on inner game for a while or something..."

Later on, I think the guy said he had only approached a few women so far (new to the game), but still.. an extroverted guy with a lot going for him, isn't getting women? Not sure how to process that, and what the ramifications are for me, someone who is his polar opposite... ^{_^}

authenticsociallife · 2015-12-18T17:00:36+00:00

If you just want to hook up; focus on the variables you can control; fashion, exercise, talking to women online, having a good profile and photo.

If you hate women, it's going to come through in all your interactions with them. I would recommend working on yourself for some time; meditate, get hobbies, read self-improvement stuff, do affirmations, build up your self-belief and confidence and then go meet women. Have you read any books for people with autism connecting with others?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdS_E1LOQvc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIqFrbgBEQY Dating with Autism

Robohobohoho · 2015-12-18T14:36:55+00:00

Yep. You're pretty pathetic.

Purecorrupt · 2015-12-18T18:23:00+00:00

Sounds like you got it figured out. Kill yourself.

/s

Anyways - sounds like you are 100% confident in your opinions. If you keep doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result then you might be insane. Trust me I'm on the internet.

bcheng81 · 2015-12-18T14:06:00+00:00

I'm not going to sugarcoat it. You're socially stunted due to a mental condition that prevents you from reading cues and responding to them as a normal human being, you can't keep a job to save your life (probably also due to being socially stunted), and your outward appearance is average at best (meaning routinely below average).

Please find happiness in something else than sexual activities. The hookup culture isn't made for you, and pity sex sucks balls. Trust me, I've been there. We are in the same boat. If you can't keep a job, learn how to save money on whatever salary you can make, and bank on inheritance when your old folks die. If they pass on enough legacy to you, you should be able to retire and eat off of it until it's your turn to kick the can. And if you aren't able to find happiness elsewhere, there's always... Well, you know what's left.

Title	Giving up already, because I'm aware it's all a fucking lie. I'm the opposite of everything women want. Fact.
Author	Aeon199
Upvotes	10
Comments	52
Date	December 18, 2015 8:36 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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- If that's your attitude, and you think you have no chance. Then get a good fucking hobby and enjoy never having sex or any kind of relationship with anybody.