Is it possible to do everything right and still have negative results? Really frustrated - [RANT]

Ilovethaiicedtea · 2017-02-15T20:58:05+00:00

I'm no expert, but it sounds to me like you were too invested in that one girl. Try pursuing a few girls, or supplementing with Tinder, etc.

You can be as attractive, rich, or as smooth with women as anyone, but some girls just aren't going to be interested. It happens. The only surefire way to get around this is to pursue more than one woman.

upandup123 · 2017-02-15T20:58:31+00:00

There are a whole bunch of points I can throw around here.

1) desperation isn't a good smell on anyone. Quit trying to impress girls and just be impressive.

It's so much easier to get laid when you're not trying it's stupid. One of the few things in life where trying less will get you more. Don't ever expect anything out of a girl. As a matter of fact, anticipate that she's a bitch.

2) maybe she really was working all day. That doesn't mean she lied about her boyfriend or anything. Unless you asked about a boy friend in some way, there was no way to know in that scenario.

3) ABUNDANCE MENTALITY. Don't ever be stuck on one girl. This can break you when she says no. Have options so it's not devastating.

Also, to answer your question; have you ever met a girl who is just great as a person? Kind, good job, etc, but you just aren't attracted to, whether it be body type, facial features, maybe a race you're not attracted to, not a personality type you like?

Same situation

brokenmess · 2017-02-15T21:24:05+00:00

a woman needs to be emotionally connected to another person. spike her emotions and you are half way there. you improved yourself, but don't act all bitchy and special just because you feel you deserve attention. fuck that. you have to engage her emotionally. talk about her, say random things about her, make fun of her and have other options.

the_modern · 2017-02-15T23:48:06+00:00

What do you mean by shit results? There's no method that can guarantee you getting any particular girl. If you are getting girls in general than your results are good. You can't let your ego get crushed by just thinking of one.

kalolilo · 2017-02-15T23:52:12+00:00

You don't sound like you did much right.

Did you

State your intent
Make her crack up without even trying
Make her feel horny through ambiguity and misinterpretation and sexualization
Be cocky, yet charming
Run amazing kino on her
Teach her something
Build a strong personal connection

?

chuckmeaway01 · 2017-02-16T10:54:40+00:00

I know them feels: https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/5fx5j9/no_results_from_cold_approach_but_good_game/

MindsEvolve · 2017-02-16T22:12:46+00:00

Hey man, we can sit here and throw random advice at you all day, but at the end of the day you know best what you need to work on the most.

PM me if you want to skype so I can actually figure out with you what's going wrong.

_TurnuptheSun_ · 2017-02-15T21:42:38+00:00

The short answer is 'Yes'. The longer answer is 'Yes, and that's what makes you better."

It's really hard to accept that sometimes, even when you do everything right, the girl just won't be into you. What you should take from this is not that you suck at game or whatever, but that in the long run, accumulation of reference experiences, negative and positive alike, are what make you improve. Failure is only failure if it makes you quit.

Secondly, you have to remember that no person, no matter how good at game is immune to being blown out. The difference between us and elite pick up guys is that they became obsessed with the process of getting better, not the result. They get blown out a tonne, and because of that, they stop taking rejections personally, because they do so many approaches that the individual rejections don't matter. This guy has some brilliant insights on overcoming plateaus in game: https://youtu.be/OoW5CLWTd04

My advice to you is to stick with what you're doing, but focus on doing it for you, not for the girls. If you keep at it, and are creative in the way you deal with problems, you'll start seeing the results you want

RytekBJJ · 2017-02-16T00:07:14+00:00

What you look like and say doesn't matter all that much, at least in the sense that trying to say the right thing and look the right way doesn't attract women. BEING a certain way that results in the way you look and what you say, as well as other things, is what attracts women. For example, do you workout because you think it will increase your success with women, or do you do it because you enjoy it. Women can most definitely tell the difference, especially a high quality women.

People are attracted to who you are as a person, not the things you do and say. Yes, being a different person will change the things you do and say, but if you're trying to change what you do and say without changing who you are then you're just fake and people can tell and they don't like it. And that's true for all relationships, friendship, business, romance, whatever. Doesn't matter how great an actor you, eventually, and usually quickly, women will figure out you're a fake.

A woman needs to be be able to feel your strength and masculinity radiating from you effortlessly, and that comes from subconscious thoughts that affects things you can't possibly micromanage. Things as small as speech inflections, body language, when and how you smile, the direction your eyes are looking when you talk to her, etc.

Unfortunately, who you are is very hard to change. You're SUPPOSED to develop who you are when you're growing up, but if you're like me and you had clueless parents it's gonna be rough. I didn't have bad parents, just parents who didn't really reach me much about being a man and so I had to start over, and you might need to do.

To start, you have to do what YOU want to do and not give a fuck what anyone else thinks. I decided I didn't want to live where I lived, so I moved 2000 miles across the country even though all my family lives back where I was. I come from a very conservative background, but I decided I don't care what my friends and family think, I'm getting a huge tattoo across my chest and shoulder. I work in IT, so saying most of my friends aren't athletic is an understatement, but fuck it, I'm going to go train BJJ and MMA even if that means making all new friends.

Women are all about feelings. If you make her FEEL like how she'd imagine she'd feel when she was in love from all the fairy tales she read as a little girl, then she'll fall in love with you. Sure, muscles and money help, but they will never make up for being an unhappy guy who has no goals in live, hates his job, and doesn't live life to the fullest by going after what he wants in life. If you workout because you're passionate about it, then keep doing it. If you're doing it because you think you need to do it to attract women, then stop. Use that time to go do something else you actually are passionate about. Once you have a life full of passion a woman will see that and they will be the one begging for your attention.

Is it possible to do everything right and still have negative results? Really frustrated - [RANT]

Comments

1) desperation isn't a good smell on anyone. Quit trying to impress girls and just be impressive.

2) maybe she really was working all day. That doesn't mean she lied about her boyfriend or anything. Unless you asked about a boy friend in some way, there was no way to know in that scenario.

3) ABUNDANCE MENTALITY. Don't ever be stuck on one girl. This can break you when she says no. Have options so it's not devastating.

5) or whatever it is: Whos going to love you if you dont love yourself first?

Title	Is it possible to do everything right and still have negative results? Really frustrated - [RANT]
Author	frustratedseddit
Upvotes	5
Comments	15
Date	February 15, 2017 8:41 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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