Little LMR Guide

frogma · 2012-01-31T00:07:21+00:00

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2012-01-30T22:59:07+00:00

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rad_thundercat · 2012-01-30T16:43:30+00:00

wow you guys are weird.

2012-01-30T22:45:36+00:00

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iznou · 2012-01-30T13:47:59+00:00

Sex is a conversation.

frogma · 2012-01-30T07:46:38+00:00

You can also google this shit and find plenty of advice. I'm just googling some more techniques:

When she says "stop" or whatever, you stop, roll over, then just chat with her. Mention that you should hit up some breakfast tomorrow- basically show her that you don't just plan to bang and bail. That'll make her a lot more comfortable. That's something I've actually done a lot, but I never really thought of it as another way of building comfort.
(Just randomly saw this tidbit on a website, and it's basically true) If you're constantly pushing forward (not just in bed, but throughout the entire interaction), it's much more likely to blow up on you at some point. Basically because the girl's gonna feel like she's giving it up too easily- even if she wants to do that, her mind's still confusing her and shit. This "technique" is talked about fairly often (2 steps forward, 1 step back- also, cat-string theory), but it can also apply to LMR situations.
(From the same site): Let's say you're fingering her or something and that's when she starts having issues- instead of just pulling back to heavy petting or whatever, take two steps back and just make out with her. Then start moving forward from the beginning.
Push/pull: Works the same as usual. Make out, then push away and tease her (or do whatever you want). Then make out again. Then push back. Then feel her up and shit. Then push back some more. Ad infinitum till she's going nuts and jumping your bones.
Another good point is to just have fun with it. Don't take shit seriously. Don't focus on the prize, just be in the moment having fun with this girl you brought home. Live the experience with her instead of constantly thinking "Alright, I gotta do this this and this so she'll respond this way, blah blah blah." Just be in the moment with her. Make the foreplay last an hour if you want. I've purposely given myself blue balls before because it took so long between foreplay and sex. But then when I eventually came I was gushing fountains.

kabhaz · 2012-01-30T08:25:13+00:00

i don't know what a SRSer is

TofuTofu · 2012-01-30T21:54:34+00:00

I find a couple fingers in the vagina works too.

frogma · 2012-01-30T07:02:54+00:00

Yet another note (partly because my post is already long as fuck): I realize some of these things can be questionable, and there can certainly be some grey areas involved. If you're ever unsure about crossing a line or something, don't cross it. Either figure out another way to handle the situation, or just back off.

Also keep in mind, and I hate having to reiterate this- your actions are gonna depend on your morals. When the girl pulls your hand away, you might not be comfortable moving it back down again. That's cool. Just freeze her out instead, or be happy with making out. Nobody would be able to make a case against you for simply re-escalating (unless some other factors are involved), but I've never had a quality legal discussion of this topic, not even with guys on this subreddit. Everyone's emotions tend to overshadow an objective discussion.

PLplotsOTS · 2012-01-30T06:48:39+00:00

It's about time. Thank you frogma for this guide. I can't wait to see what Sedditors (and others) have to say.

frogma · 2012-01-30T06:52:46+00:00

Also note: I mainly used "We shouldn't be doing this" as an example. You can substitute basically any similar line and the same shit applies.

choc_is_back · 2012-01-30T10:27:05+00:00

Great stuff!

Allow me to add a controversial one: supply more alcohol ;-) This will very likely be downvoted, but there's a certain level of drunk that is good enough to make her loosen up and give up on those silly society-instilled inhibitions, without it becoming taking advantage; say 3 glasses of wine or so. That's what you're aiming for.

I disagree on 7 though, it can be definitely worth it trying to convince a girl that her reasons are stupid. Because often they are, she really wants it but she has this "I don't wanna be a slut" defense thing going on. Convincing her that those objections are stupid and she should really do what she wants rather than caring for what people might say can be satisfying. I take that over a freeze-out any day, which to me is the more shady technique here.

frogma · 2012-01-30T07:58:34+00:00

Nice guide Frogma ~

One thing you could maybe add to it is: To build enough comfort, attraction and arousal so LMR never comes up to begin with, which is the solution we should all be working towards.

I personally used to use something similar to the "Role-Reversal" that you described here, but then one day I woke up and realized I hadn't had LMR in years... When I looked back at why I realized it was because I was building up a lot of comfort, attraction and arousal, so the women were never second guessing themselves.

pictureseverything · 2012-01-30T10:37:30+00:00

Freeze-out definitly works. I have had LMR couple of times, so I always acted cool when she said that, which in turn makes her make even more effort.

2012-01-31T01:17:51+00:00

Did anyone save the post ?

I understand this may have been be controversial, but please don't remove the post. If you're not prepared to take criticism, don't post in the first place. Now, please, un-remove the content.

ddxxdd · 2012-01-30T12:02:48+00:00

Don't worry about SRS. The people who matter understand what you're talking about and where you're coming from with all this.

Hey Frogma, relevant question regarding pre-emptively stopping LMR:

I assume that you've heard of the Vin DiCarlo escalation ladder, right? Have you tried using that in practice? Is there a right and wrong time to make hand contact, shoulder contact, and leg contact? Would you wait for certain cues in the conversation?

Or is it better to just get a feel for it?

Pheon809 · 2012-01-30T17:23:36+00:00

Dude, I have been using the freeze out for years, never knew it had name, but its fucking gold.

Title	Little LMR Guide
Author	frogma
Upvotes	45
Comments	73
Date	January 30, 2012 6:40 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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