What are your odds?

becomesharp · 2025-12-25T00:28:59+00:00

Numbers arent particularly useful because theyre so specific to individual situations. A 6'4" NBA player talking to his fans is going to have WILDLY different numbers to a 5'2" indian guy with autism who is talking to blondes in hollywood nightclubs.

Your social skills and who and how youre approaching matter WAY more to cold approach stats than anything else, so its too hard to predict what you should expect.

That said, here's a general idea for your rough situation based on 20 years of coaching guys:

Average to above average looking guys who have avg to above avg social skills cold approaching 20-50 women per week in the US will be able to start getting a few dates within the first few months of cold approaching, assuming theyre not doing anything abnormal (like only approaching super attractive women who are with husbands). Numbers don't mean shit because you can get numbers on day 1 but if the women dont want to ever see you again the number is worthless. It's like tracking bench press 1RM on a smith machine with a spotter who is sporadically doing curls on your barbell at the same time lol.

The higher up on the social skills and appearance totem pole you are, the faster you'll get results. The lower on that totem pole you are, the longer it will take. It's sort of similar to the gym in that respect. Effort, genetics, PEDs, and consistency will get you much faster results than guys who lack all of the above.

Repttarr · 2025-12-25T00:23:55+00:00

I guess it all depends who you are. I’m definitely not an expert, I just enjoy learning on here but I have been lucky enough to be tall and reasonably handsome so I do pretty well. Oh I’m 34m btw.

I usually approach women at bars, I find the liquid courage helps me a lot with approaching ladies.

I suppose it’s hard to put specific numbers on everything because it depends on my intention.

Sleeping with girls is just reading signals, I would say i am probably near 70-80% success rate but that’s because if I feel like an interaction isn’t getting anywhere I will move on to other prospects very quickly. It’s rarely I’m out just looking to sleep with somebody but it does happen occasionally and I would say in those cases I just look out for women who are clearly out after the same thing, which seems quite common these days especially with girls in their 20s

For dates I only ask girls out who I’m genuinely interested in and perhaps my genuine interest in them is obvious because I have a 100% success rate over the past few years in getting the first date, I’ve only ever asked when I’m already feeling a really good chemistry with somebody and I have the idea that they’re interested too

The hard part is keeping the ones I really like around 😂

AngryGoose21 · 2025-12-25T00:34:08+00:00

If I’m going on a date if I don’t close and have sex is an anomaly. In person is absolutely trash

Budget-Kick822 · 2025-12-25T00:51:23+00:00

Numbers are not useful. When you focus on numbers you're focusing on outcomes and not process. If I only approached mid 5s who made eyes at me I could bat close to 100%. If I only approached 10s with boyfriends next to them I would have terrible results.

Focus on controlling on what you can control and being in the moment/having fun.

CelicnisGhost · 2025-12-25T15:43:40+00:00

I'd say for an average guy that really knows "game", he'd be lucky if he fucks 1/5 women on a cold approach.

If you really know your stuff you can probably get 100% success rate on a warm approach though (like through a friend, or with heavy preselection).

ThatDarnSmell · 2025-12-25T08:32:44+00:00

My best odds by far have been through social game and it's been my primary method of dating after my divorce. I completely eliminated online dating/apps and don't miss them. Cold approach is fine as well but you're starting from zero as a complete stranger. My current girlfriend and I have a shared friend circle and the transition into being a couple was really smooth and straightforward. The best "wing" is a female friend of hers she trusts.

BLINGBLATTA · 2025-12-25T10:43:00+00:00

You feel you have finally matured because you matched with 3 girls on an online dating site. Excellent work.

Now you can approach that cute girl at your gym. You've been lifting for 18 years, do it.

jackthehat6 · 2025-12-25T14:59:44+00:00

it's not a metric worth worrying about

I mean, lets say you are 60 and you only approach absolutely beautiful 18-21 year olds. YOu could have the BEST 'game' on planet earth and get rejected 1000 times in a row and then get laid with number 1001

Or you could have very average game, but you are tall and handsome with a chiseled jaw, 26, and you mainly approach average girls around your age. You could literally get laid on like 75% of approaches

Tom torerro and The famous London day gamers used to say they get laid on every 40 approaches or so. However, Tom (and others) literally faked infields so it's probably fair to assume they lied about that number too! So maybe THEY get laid once every 100 appraoches or so.

And so in reality, this whole thing is just a numbers game

End of the day, it's not really about your 'game'. She just needs to be attracted to you. If she is, the amount of 'game' you need is the same level of game teh normal dude off the street has. If she is NOT attracted to you at all, you could practice pushpull and the rest of it 8 horus per day, but you still won't get THAT girl in bed (since she wasn't, and won't be sexually attracted to you)

Happyseducer · 2025-12-26T15:24:35+00:00

You’ll do fine man - don’t worry about odds. Worry about results. There are different styles. Some guys are direct and may have many short approaches until they find the a girl who liked them.

For example in night game I love bouncing around and socializing with tons of people - I don’t even go for numbers or dates with like 90%. In daygame I can get numbers on most approaches if I want .

But it’s just different styles.

The important thing is it sounds you have a great base and if you learn a lil game and approach you will get an awesome sex life and likely have fun along the way.

epimpstyle · 2025-12-25T10:17:41+00:00

Something like this:

50 - approahes

25 - phone numbers

12 - flakes

6 - go on a date

3 - on a second date

1-2 sex

Title	What are your odds?
Author	ThrowRA_fajsdklfas
Upvotes	8
Comments	13
Date	December 25, 2025 12:14 AM UTC (7 months ago)
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