What’s wrong with beta males?

old_wise_man_ · 2021-12-28T23:59:03+00:00

Nobody wants to follow. Everyone wants to lead. In the age of choice, everyone chooses to WANt TO BE the leader.

Fuel_Fine · 2021-12-29T00:28:39+00:00

Society runs because of beta males.

They're the minimum wage workers, teachers, steelworkers, carpenteers, miners, even doctors, etc. Unfortunately, they're invisible to most women's eyes.

StarchRunner · 2021-12-29T00:10:06+00:00

I was going to say, nothing's wrong. Some people just don't want to be like them. But then I thot about it.

And yet there is something wrong. A big subset of betas will do everything as they're told by their women or for women, stabbing their bros in the back. They put on cuckface on photos. They put on "I'm with her shirts" and will screech like Howler monkeys to opposing opinions. They'll pamper their daughters and raise the next generation of stupid-spoiled-whore Barbies. And that's how we get modern society.

So yeah, fuck the lot of 'em.

RabbitNRaccoon · 2021-12-29T00:12:17+00:00

I agree.

Alot of men are not leaders. It takes a truly aware man to admit that. Alot of men in the Manosphere, I've noticed, struggle with the reality that they don't have natural leadership qualities. Like a handful of men do.

So instead of just being humble and staying in their lane and developing boundaries, and self respect and standards they try and feign acting like someone they aren't. By engaging in behaviors that don't suit them.

Most men are capybara, swallows, turtles etc. But they, for some reason, aspire to be lions, tigers and bears.

Shredddz · 2021-12-29T00:19:44+00:00

in a biological context, there are not just alphas and betas. There is a hierarchy which encompasses the entire range of how able someone is. The classification of alpha and beta in the redpill community really doesnt refer do the natural concept of an alpha male. That would be a leader of a group of males, and competence is linear, its not just you are able or not, there is different levels and fields of ability. the redpill really uses the term to define the phenomenon of men being split in two behavioral categories, the ones who were brainwashed to be weak, followers and not masculine, and the men who are dominant, assertive and masculine aka just normal. in this context, alpha just means displaying the natural masculine behavior. any men of any competence level can be that way, because its not about leading men, its about just the baseline masculine behavior that many men got beaten out of in childhood by feminist mothers, media and institutions.

all men desperately need to come back to this natural way of being, because thats whats ruining the dating market and the society in general. its whole purpose is to create weak men who do submit to totalitarianism. we gotta correct that, and it might even be to late.

any man can have a backbone, self respect and not put up with crap from women just like most men used to do before feminist propaganda.

so in the redpill context every one needs to be masculine, which they call alpha. In a biological context it would make no sense, because not all people can be equally able, and we all benefit from the most capable people leading in terms of mentoring, not control. So everyone can and needs to be alpha in the redpill way, and outside of it just follow or lead based on your competence level, and take that place in the hierarchy. Its not that there is just 2 levels to the make hierarchy. its a linear spectrum and you fill be leading and following at the same time, just to different degrees depending where you rank.

TheJim66 · 2021-12-29T00:23:00+00:00

The only thing wrong with them is that women don't want to be fucked by them. That's really all alpha and beta in the context of the red pill means. It means "trait women find sexually attractive/unattractive"

ahandtoyourdarknessx · 2021-12-29T00:56:09+00:00

The whole alpha beta thing is ridiculous. The guy who made that study about wolves came out and said it was wrong. People are dynamic and perform differently in different situations. All hierarchies are arbitrary and based on circumstance. Anyone who blindly follows "leadership" is a fool.

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John_Oakman · 2021-12-29T00:17:58+00:00

Because then we have to admit that concepts such as "all men are equal" and other stuff from the Enlightenment are false, and all that implies... Forget about the slippery slope, it's gonna be a cliff back to the dark ages of patriarchy.

Dan240z · 2021-12-29T00:22:02+00:00

Nothing wrong with being beta most men start as a beta you eventually have to work your way up to alpha but because of slot's being limited to move to the top most stay beta or regress into Omega aka homeless or low wage worker personally knowing all this I would tell men to go into the sigma stage of life if he's a beta and wants to improve his station in life.

stats135 · 2021-12-29T00:40:48+00:00

can there be too many alphas?

We'd never have too many alphas. That's because alpha is a relative quality. Its like saying we'd have too many geniuses and need more idiots, or we'd have too many rich people and need more poor people to work. Once everyone reaches a higher (or lower) level or intelligence, or wealth, or alpha/beta-ness the benchmark adjusts to where the hierarchy stays the same.

wtknight · 2021-12-29T00:43:41+00:00

Removed. No internal questions (Red Pill asking Red Pill or Blue Pill asking Blue Pill questions).

Brilliant-Hornet1916 · 2021-12-29T01:12:07+00:00

The concept of alphas and betas has no real meaning in human society let's be honest. In the true meaning of alpha male in mammals, if you put 2 alphas in the same space, 1 of them isn't an alpha any more. That obviously can't apply to human society where different social groups have to mix constantly. And the idea of exclusive mating rights to all females within a social group doesn't really exist in current society either.

So they're pretty pointless terms, the way they seem to be used is "this guy acts in a way I like so I'll label him alpha". Who gets to decide who's an alpha and who's a beta?

I'll answer the question what is wrong with simps?

Simps are inflating the egos of women so they think they're more desirable than they actually are. Commenting on their social media photos to tell them they're beautiful, buying their onlyfans.. Come on dude. Women's overinflated sense of their own attractiveness is having a knock-on affect on all men so the dating market is more difficult to navigate.
Simps are helping to uphold backwards traditions and expectations, like buying women dinner 10 dates in a row with nothing in return.
Simps are encouraging and incentivising women to act in way that most men deem undesirable. That includes wifing up promiscuous women, wifing up single moms. There's no consequences for women's actions in sleeping around, spitting out babies when she doesn't even know who the father is. There's always going to be simps waiting in line to rescue her at the end of it all, so they never have to modify their behaviour.
Simps are supporting men's demise by supporting modern day liberal feminism and radical feminism.

Title	What’s wrong with beta males?
Author	King8Kaista
Upvotes	3
Comments	22
Date	December 28, 2021 11:55 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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