The First Rule of Fight Club

Cyralea · 2015-02-20T06:49:51+00:00

I think it's funny how a bunch of comments are just accusing TRP of being made up of high school virgins. I am nearing 30 with 3 serious relationships under my belt and have had my fair share of sex with attractive Women. I am not here because Women don't want to talk to me or be in a relationship with me. I am here because of what my experience has been when they do talk to me and enter into relationships with me.

The most serious relationship I have had was a live in girlfriend. The end of that relationship shook me to the core so I can't even fathom how it is for the men who have been married with kids and divorced. Surely there are plenty of regular men on Reddit, who are not active on TRP, who would at least understand what is talked about around here.

And if TRP is just a bunch of virgins, then WTF is the rest of Reddit? I am supposed to believe that everyone else on Reddit is ridiculously good looking and fucking other good looking people and in happilly ever after marriages. Give me a break. All of Reddit is just a bunch of fucking nerds only all the other subs are guys who are still buying drinks for girls at bars and trying to convince these girls to be their girlfriends. TRP is guys who are getting on with their lives and treating Women like what they are... people.

NoRegretj · 2015-02-20T03:00:19+00:00

None of you will EVER convince these people otherwise. Let them find it themselves. I think all of you should also understand reddit is corrupt in itself, the SJW admins/mods are literally liberal (blue pill) propaganda machines. Thread over on /r/conspiracy about it

juanqunt · 2015-02-20T03:04:40+00:00

People who defend TRP outside of TRP need to read this: http://illimitablemen.com/2015/02/08/machiavellian-thinking-vs-conventional-logic/

Justification is a Machiavellian Fallacy.

trp_angry_dwarf · 2015-02-20T04:47:38+00:00

I notice subscriptions have gone up 2k today...

Red_SoloCup · 2015-02-20T03:35:23+00:00

I am a very open minded person. I will listen to anyone lunatics or kings and judge what they have to say based on observation and evidence. My first stop on the red pill voyage was the rational male, and everything I read their jived with my past experiences to an almost creepy degree. Like someone had scripted my experiences with women. Even if some of Rollo's stuff might be stretches and reaching into bullshit evo psych territory it goes VERY far to explain a lot of things I have observed.

Now when I listen to anti TRP people and ask them well what do you have against TRP it's always shaming (those beta virgins), muhsoggyknees (which is a buzzword devoid of meaning at this point), or simply a shutdown of communication where they say TRP is too disgusting to even talk about. If you can't talk about something like a mature adult and back your points of with logic and evidence, even anecdotal, just shut up and don't even bother.

TL;DR: TRP detractors are the biggest reason I put my trust in TRP because they never say anything worthwhile or intelligible.

EDIT: And also, I think others will have the experience too. If I talk to normal women who have no idea about reddit and TRP I can get them to admit to RP truths. Even feminists spout them from time to time

LastRevision · 2015-02-20T04:56:09+00:00

There is a concept on /pol/ regarding talking about Dark Enlightenment ideas as "revealing your power." When you publicly look beyond the mainstream accepted narrative about how the world works you either look like a crazy person or an asshole based on the truth value of what you have to say. We come across as the latter.

TRP is a basis for understanding the world- not talking points for debate. Fit in- move with the narrative and plan your moves based on the reality we discuss here.

VoidInvincible · 2015-02-20T05:36:39+00:00

Those Anti-Red Pill "men" won't accept TRP UNTIL they've been fucked over MULTIPLE times. They have to get hurt badly before they realize what we're saying, and even then, they may still be in denial. Some people just can't be helped; they're lost causes.

TitsAndWhiskey · 2015-02-20T14:13:51+00:00

It's cool on reddit to call TRP a sub full of loser, degenerate, neckbeard virgins. Classic high school. Easiest way to get in with the "in" crowd is to pick on a target they pick on.

"Look guys! I'm one of you!" Is an anthropological strategy as old as the human race. If you don't actually bring something of value to the group, you at least show you're not on the OTHER side. Acceptance by proxy.

We all do it. No sense getting worked up about it. Just try to remember that we are on the men's side over here, and they're on the women's side. Do we argue with women? No, we do not. Because there is no fucking point in trying to sway a woman's opinion with logic.

So, yeah. What OP said. Get with the fucking program.

randarrow · 2015-02-20T03:34:13+00:00

The rule was made to be broken. If you're making RP comments on other sections (that you KNOW are anti TRP,) don't bother looking at the responses. They're all basically the same.

"You're a misogynist."

"You hate women."

If you're breaking this rule in real life, it's time to get moving from whatever social circle and/or person knows you have these ideas and doesn't approve. Move fast but if you're looking for a war, that's something else. You might end up doing a long stretch in prison. These pussies stay bitter a long time and they can't help themselves when it comes to stirring drama.

deaduponaviral · 2015-02-20T15:39:51+00:00

Feminist Shaming Tactics...basically how reddit fights logic.

electroavenue · 2015-02-20T03:16:47+00:00

The first (two) rules of fight club were instated to show that rules are meant to be broken

How else would it have spread?

rojo-pildora · 2015-02-20T18:43:27+00:00

The only time you should ever admit to swallowing the red pill or admit to following trp is on this sub.

If a girl ask what redpill is you look her in the eyes confused as shit. Never awknoledge you're following trp.

asd1100 · 2015-02-20T06:23:02+00:00

Absolutely and may I add if people see your scars and puffed up face, tell them that they are battle scars from defending your feminist peers against the patriarchy. I am serious, in any gender discussion you should be the radical egalitarian, its a great position to combat both radfems and blue pillers. PLus it gets you laid by moderates so there is that.

SeasonalVisions · 2015-02-20T07:01:07+00:00

All I can do is look at this and laugh, I find it hilarious that someone said its for guys that can't get laid when I didn't become sexually active until I started following this sub.

RealRational · 2015-02-20T14:48:21+00:00

Have a TRP specific account, then another account for the rest of reddit. I actually cycle between 3.
Messaging specific user's is the right way to do it, agreed with OP. What I normally do is link one specific article from the side-bar, the most relevant one according to what I already know about that user. I don't link to the actual sub very often. But normally once they've read what I linked they'll ask me if I have any more, THEN I go "oh, I actually found it on this random sub /r/TheRedPill "

2015-02-20T04:21:41+00:00

I don't defend that the sun is hot. Defending beliefs is for people with beliefs that are faulty enough that they need defending.

2015-02-20T14:32:45+00:00

I've never understood this. I guess it's just the reality has always been so much in my face that finding trp wasn't such a drastic event. Every time I speak about it in public I get great responses. The guys feel like I'm some kind of messiah showing them the light, and the girls find the need to try and talk me out of my reasoning. (Which is a great way to just converse if I'll interested in her). The one thing I will admit however is you never say WHERE the information comes from. Say you've seen it, heard about it, and experienced it yourself multiple times and people will listen in awe. Say you read it on the Internet and you're a lying sack of shit whose butt hurt he can't girls. This and never bring it up in any other subreddits. You guys have to see that a lot of the hate towards this place is generated from he said she said. A lot of these people haven't even read a single submission let alone the sidebar. Which is why when "trp" is brought up its instantly shamed, yet I can speak about all the topics trp speaks about and be praised.

Masonjarteadrinker2 · 2015-02-20T17:08:55+00:00

I've really been fighting my own ego on this one, because I'll be in situations in business or with my girlfriend where I'll just kind of break the fourth wall and call things out "you are doing this, it means that you are, and I need to..."

NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THAT SHIT AND IT NEVER WORKS. Play the game. Stay aloof. Don't be a baby and don't just learn - internalize.

tits_out_forTheBoys · 2015-02-20T18:54:47+00:00

I just don't understand. There's no reason to continue spreading the word at this stage of TRP's growth.

The sub is approaching 100k members, high quality posts are getting diluted by banal crap-vomiting posts, & more self-proclaimed "RedPillers" now have more questions (about basic shit in the sidebar, nonetheless) than they do answers.

In other words, we're already too big, there's no need for anyone to try & preach TRP into a bigger sub, because in all likelihood you'd just be making it worse.

qwertyidgaf · 2015-02-20T05:32:54+00:00

Anti-TRP sentiment is just displaced fear of the wall/alpha-widowhood in women and of being BB in men. Whenever somebody has a strong, zealous passion for any cause or belief system, they are resisting something in themselves. It's their inner turmoil that makes them so heated.

In my experience, I think I talk about TRP concepts with friends and generally 'reveal my power level' because I spend so much time thinking about and immersing myself in the concepts and looking at the world through that lens.

I think when you spend too much time RPing yourself some part of you feels like you've got nothing else interesting to talk about.

2015-02-20T06:43:41+00:00

This post should be highlighted. The man speaks truth. I believe we are not big enough, or well connected enough outside of reddit, and run the risk of being censored by some SJW mod.

Introduce TRP to your buddies that need it. Don't bother arguing the points made here to the outside world. It goes against the norm, and that makes people uncomfortable.

Please read All-in-One Red Pill 101 for more info

2015-02-20T13:19:14+00:00

No. My goal in life is to improve myself, and model true, unfeminized masculinity to my son. I am free to make any comments I want to, and shouldn't have to hide because SJWs can't handle their own masculinity.

2015-02-20T13:48:09+00:00

TRP isn't just sexual strategy. It's taught me to stand up for myself in fighting situations which proved to be very useful.

popthatpill · 2015-02-20T15:21:29+00:00

Like I keep saying: women will never approve of RP thinking because women will never approve of men finding out the truth about female sociosexual strategy.

The less men know about female sociosexual strategy, the easier it is for women to optimise their strategy. (Remember Rollo's cardinal rule of sexual strategies: for one side to win, the other side has to lose. Sociosexual strategy is zero-sum.) Hence, it's in women's interest to make sure men don't find out the truth, ie. RP.

To this end, women will seek to anathematise anyone who tells the truth about female sociosexual strategy.

2015-02-20T16:40:06+00:00

You shouldn't be getting irritated or defensive looking at any of these posts, you should be getting happier with each anti-TRP comment. All of those people are eliminating themselves from your competition in some way, and convincing others to do the same.

It's better than the majority remain bluepill, reserve trp for the high value males in your life that you can personally introduce it to.

occupythekitchen · 2015-02-20T23:31:07+00:00

What i've noticed is if I post a popular comment somewhere else on reddit after reading/commenting on trp I get called for being trp. I could be on /r/AnimalsBeingJerks and say that human deserved it and someone will say "typical /r/TheRedPill user"

KilluaKanmuru · 2015-02-21T00:25:04+00:00

Ever since I got on this sub and learned all the truths it expounded, it baffles me that people misconstrue this sub so badly. Do these people not read. Are they just a bunch of fucking sheep baaing the same bullshit.

slcjosh · 2015-02-21T00:41:13+00:00

Everytime someone mentions TRP in another sub, we get an influx of subscribers.

Stand_Your_Ground_ · 2015-02-21T15:07:09+00:00

For the love of god if this sub ever becomes popular I would be gone, it would mean it has morphed into something more acceptable and thus has probably diverged from its initial principles.

I am so very much against spreading this sub unless someone explicitly asks advice from women after being totally wrecked by cheating divorce etc.

We don't need betas coming in here and shitting the place up. They'll read thing in the sidebar and say "im so redpill now gais dark triad >:)" thinking that flat out hating women makes you alpha and posting the stupid reddit puns and jokes.

Improve yourself, post strong quality content here and those intelligent enough to stay here and learn will actually be valuable contributors.

2015-02-20T04:38:33+00:00

I tried for a long time to spread trp ideas without jargon on city data and kept getting banned out of that hug box. This shit does not go over well anywhere

flexiblehold · 2015-02-20T07:34:59+00:00

Who's to say these supposed red pill devotees are not actually sjw cunts trolling?

oldredder · 2015-02-20T09:26:00+00:00

but... the rest of reddit is for hard-core Trolling. You can't troll if you're not amusing / amused and the others aren't frustrated / having a shit-fit.

nzgs · 2015-02-20T14:03:23+00:00

It doesn't surprise me. I've been called every ad-hominem under the sun by left-wingers over the years. History proves they will go to any extent to shame and silence free-thinkers. "RACIST" "LITTLE ENGLANDER" "MALE PRIVILEGE" "RAPE-APOLOGIST" "RIGHT-WINGER" "MISOGYNIST". Just ignore them and keep going, the more of a fuss they kick up the more fence-sitting men will become aware of enlightenment.

Neuermann · 2015-02-20T15:47:10+00:00

So, what would happen if shit hits the fan and the SJW or Fem Nazis happen to ban, censor, or somehow try to remove us from the internet, or reddit? Is there a back-up plan? (I know about peurarchy.com, but it doesn't seem to be updated) I do understand that this is not a defined "movement," but a natural collection of men, which is hard to stop, but I have just wondered lately.

2015-02-20T18:09:13+00:00

Once I saw them bashing "gamergate", and saying that it actually wasn't about journalism and about SJW bull shit I was outchea.

2015-02-20T18:11:07+00:00

Lions need not concern themselves with the opinions of sheep.

The outside world can say whatever they want. If they want to judge a community without having sufficiently interacted with it, that's their bigotry, not ours.

Are there bad red pills? Yeah, sure. A reasonable portion of the community is simply here to hate women and wear TRP on their sleeves as an excuse for never learning to interact with women. If someone wants to concede that TRP is just a hive of misogyny, then we get to contend that all feminists are Andrea Dworkin.

2015-02-20T18:27:05+00:00

but part of it is learning to break the rules.

Dark397 · 2015-02-20T20:28:52+00:00

We are not normal. TRP maybe true...but its not the norm....no worries though more for me.

yummyluckycharms · 2015-02-20T22:52:16+00:00

Doxxed? Only dimwitted losers get doxxed because they are silly enough to post personal information and even then it has to be pretty damned detailed.

Secondly, who cares if people post and get the SJW's up in arms? Reddit is already undergoing a migration to voat right now as SJW's drive everyone away in an excuse to re-live their digg 2.0 days. So, people should post wherever they want and not worry. If you worry, its you that is being affected by them, not the other way around.

Dreamlancer · 2015-02-21T00:52:49+00:00

Not to be that guy, but just In relation to your title. The rules of fight club are 1 and 2: don't talk about it.

The first being don't talk about it. The second being Tyler breaking the rule by talking about it so it gets others to talk about it and their numbers grow.

Kinda the opposite of what is preached in the post following

watersign · 2015-02-21T06:17:56+00:00

who fucking cares, tbh? If this sub were to get nuked, another sub somewhere else would spring up. Theres plenty of MGTOW, redpill forums out there

PowerVitamin · 2015-02-21T06:39:42+00:00

Long answer in short: Don't feed the trolls.

2015-02-21T13:00:04+00:00

/u/Lots42 is a fucking crack up. Credit for so much dedication. Just look at how much they post...

Drenmar · 2015-02-22T09:41:14+00:00

Looks like I need a TRP specific account... the average redditor really hates our guts.

Axoc · 2015-02-20T15:33:39+00:00

I had a realization last night while cooking dinner. For the first time in my life, I was making hamburgers, and I was simultaneously doing dishes and drinking milk with protein while watching various YouTube videos on the subject before deciding, "fuck it, I'll make it up as I go along."

When I finished, they were a little bit too salty but still delicious. At this point, I realized something. I'm making it in life. I'm able to multitask, cook, AND eat healthily. 6 months ago I wasn't able to do these things. I would have overspent my money and ordered Chinese food, which didn't even taste as good as what I cooked for 1/5 the price. So many other guys still continue to do the same, and every guy who does eat healthily and lift is a threat to me both financially and relationship-wise.

Every time I wake a guy up, I make another threat to myself.

Willfully submitting to another man for no reason (he isn't a police officer, judge, etc) and voluntarily putting him in a place of power over you is beta, and if taken far enough, is cuckolding. Every single time you wake a guy up, you're giving him the potential to be more powerful than you.

WAKING UP OTHER GUYS IS A BETA TENDENCY AND THAT IS WHY IT DOESN'T WORK.

Subconsciously they recognize this and can't allow somebody who claims to be "alpha" and "RP" to also commit this most disgusting of beta sins. Because of this, they hate you for it. I don't know how I can say it more clearly than this.

THEY WON'T WAKE UP BECAUSE EVEN BETAS HATE OTHER BETAS.

They can only wake themselves up.

J_Ferrara07 · 2015-02-20T07:07:01+00:00

You know why the first two rules are to not talk about it, right? It's specifically like that so that you will tell somebody about it.

I think this is a bad analogy.

robostanleys · 2015-02-20T08:24:08+00:00

I have two reactions when I see someone saying, promoting, living in a blue pill way:

1.) I just hate seeing people be wrong. I need to correct it. If someone said the sky was orange during midday, I would reflexively feel the need to say that it isn't, that it's blue.

2.) The more hate, and the less views this sub get, the better it is for me. I fully buy into TRP core beliefs, and if this were to spread suddenly like wildfire, I'd be at a competitive disadvantage.

Belerion · 2015-02-20T17:03:24+00:00

There's no such thing as bad press.

But there is such a thing as fucking up by engaging in the comments section of an article written by people who hate you.

WAFC · 2015-02-20T17:20:18+00:00

Come on guys. Be reasonable. ANY and ALL attempts to defend or "preach" TRP on any comment section will get you scoffed at and give a lower impression of us, not to mention in an "ANTI TRP THREAD."

Who cares? There are men in those threads that need to see this place and have no idea how badly. reddit at-large doesn't have a high opinion of us to begin with, so who fucking cares if it gets "lower?"

And you only have a bad time arguing with SJWs if you give a fuck about your karma. You'll win every argument, because you have facts and logic on your side and they have emotional appeals.

Fuck self-censoring to appease, or to stay in the shadows. THAT sounds like beta bitch behavior.

2015-02-20T18:45:28+00:00

But that's the beauty of this.

A big part of us of development is putting yourself in a position where they can't touch you.

Also I don't think most of us really give a fuck what the sjws think.

And lastly, every time they attack these ideas and the people here, they lose. I personally welcome attacks for this very reason.

I personally agree with keeping my shit to myself, but these fears are overblown, the sjws have much less power than the projections you are buying into, there really isn't shit anybody can do about what we think and believe, fuck em.

Title	The First Rule of Fight Club
Author	Daisy_DukeNukem
Upvotes	186
Comments	103
Date	February 20, 2015 2:50 AM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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