Red Pill life making faithfulness a challenge

2015-12-10T20:58:05+00:00

This is why I would tell any BP guy to never get married until he has learned and applied RP truths. Without having experienced spinning plates and "good" girls who blow you on the first or second date - you will always feel you missed out. But what is done is done and so if that is what you want - jump in with gusto. However as men who take responsibility for our actions you might find that this path will lead you down a road where there will be plenty of things to take responsibility for - whether you want to or not. Playing with fire always has the potential to burn. If this risk is not something you can handle then channelling your sexual energy and confidence into creating a vision might be a better fit . Figure out what you really want to achieve with your life before you die.Then go out and seize it . Create a legacy that will live on long after you're dead.

SlowWing · 2015-12-10T22:13:52+00:00

One of the solutions (you need atmospheric SMV though) is to have a threesome wiht the wife and another woman.

UnluckyPenguin · 2015-12-10T22:57:00+00:00

I could now hunt so much better than I could back in the BluePill days.

You are like an adult that didn't have a childhood. The only way to get over this hurdle is to experience the equivalent of a real childhood, otherwise your subconscious will keep nagging you.

I never realized how lucky I was when I kept cycling through women until I saw my friend married the first girl he dated (for the girl, he was the first guy she dated). Several years down the road and they both have an open relationship because they each never got to experience the dating scene.

First question you have to ask yourself: Who are you? Then ask yourself: Who do you want to be?

I was a thirsty teen. But I wanted to be comfortable with who I was.

Now I am. So can honestly tell my wife I'm happy as a one-woman man, because right now when other women come onto me I can say "been there, done that". [Range of races]? Check. [Range of sizes]? Check. [Range of places]? Check.

Right now I'm not scared of cheating and my wife finding out. I'm scared of just me knowing that I cheated. It would tear me apart from the inside out because my son deserves a father who can rise above his sexual desires. And I hope one day he grows up to be outcome independent rather than being whipped because he's enslaved to a weekly serving of sex.

*edit: I almost forgot to add the most important part. One of my neighbors who was married took a break with his wife. They had a fight so he went out and hooked up with a stranger. Eventually he made up with his wife and she got a serious STD. Died of ovarian cancer less than a year later, leaving behind 3 kids.

phoenix_md · 2015-12-11T01:57:56+00:00

Been there. The power of the red pill is intoxicating. It's like going from driving a Yugo to a Lamborgini but trying to stay within the speed limit.

Stop and think about it. If you cheat you will get caught. Was she so fantastic that it was worth the life crushing consequences that followed? If your wife is a ugly, horrible person who you plan to divorce in short time, then maybe. But you say your wife is great and you have a young daughter that will also feel those consequences, so I suggest keeping it in your pants. That's not to say you can't enjoy a little side flirting, which is great for keeping up your skills and creating dread, but keep a solid hedge between you and a huge life fuck up.

Instead I suggest channeling that energy into your MAP, such as succeeding in our career, gaining more money and time off to enjoy vacationing with your family. Sex is great, but take time to consider the other awesome things life offers.

spexer · 2015-12-10T20:23:55+00:00

I hear you say that you don't need more sex, you are getting good at home. You aren't looking for a new relationship, again home is good. YOU WANT TO HUNT.

OK. Just do some catch and release. Enjoy yourself. Flex your skills. But DO NOT eat what you kill.

GarbageBunny · 2015-12-10T22:04:11+00:00

Late 20's, married for one year. It's always on my mind, but my wife keeps me happy to the point where I don't feel the need to act on it. I could get on Tinder or score Seattle girls just by being the only guy they met that day who held eye contact with them, but I picked a good one and as long as I stay on top of her I know I'll have the marriage I want. I also know that if I take my foot off of the gas for even a second I'll be in the hell a lot of you guys climbed out of which keeps me on my toes.

I found TRP a good 4 months before I got married but it was what I wanted and I actually did a remarkable job of vetting her by RP standards when we met 10 years ago. I would have backed out in a heartbeat if there were any significant problems with our relationship that couldn't be fixed by applying RP. I made sure to set the tone for the marriage immediately by establishing my expectations and aside from a very rare hiccup it has been smooth sailing thus far.

That being said, if there was no way whatsoever that she could find out and if it required no effort on my part to hide things then I'd be chasing tail every day.

2015-12-11T00:14:00+00:00

If dread is obvious, get your wife to do your fantasies about other women. Dress her like they were, get her role playing. She'll be happy and feel appreciated and you'll get your rocks off.

However, if it's not about variety of fantasy and it's about boredom. Figure out what you really want and start preparing for divorce or openness of the relationship. (You only)

If you have no moral qualms, just cheat and don't be stupid about it. (burner phone, real phone battery is pulled, legitimate alibis, keep it to ons no real name or information given)

enfier · 2015-12-11T01:39:11+00:00

What's driving the desire? Validation? Excitement?

I found other ways to scratch the itch that didn't involve cheating. I'm pretty sure you realize that while the fantasy might be really exciting and fun the reality of it isn't really life changing.

I'd recommend not dwelling on it extensively. That just tends to add fuel to the fire.

AttackByFire · 2015-12-11T02:46:44+00:00

I just want to chime in that I have reasonable game (not great, but I have SMV 9), cultivated over my two single periods (1 year and 2 years). I always feel weird that I spent a TON of time (3000+ hours?) developing skills that are nearly worthless now.

My advice? Bask in the feeling of knowing that its possible, casually flirt with the girls you meet, and leave it at that. I made a vow to marriage and intend to keep it. My marriage benefits the both of us and I have no desire to take moves towards its ending. My prolonged single periods were spent hunting for a great woman, and I'm married to one*. I honestly think I've found the best 'package' of a woman, and hope that you share that view of your wife.

*SMV 7-8, great income, great support, loves sex, could lose a few pounds (meh).

IASGame · 2015-12-11T09:54:23+00:00

I find this interesting because it only shows that not doing something because you can't isn't worth squat (yet many people in this exact situation are fooling themselves and think they are morally superior or whatever).

This is why we need locks: it isn't really to keep the thieves out (they will be thieves regardless), and a minority of people don't steal even if they knew 100% they wouldn't get caught. But the vast majority of "honest" people are "honest" because they think or know they can't get away with it without consequences.

Not judging here, just stating my opinion about human nature (men and women alike).

And the funny thing is, the truly honest people that wouldn't do it knowing they wouldn't be caught, are probably the defective ones.

BluepillProfessor · 2015-12-11T15:56:38+00:00

All of us learning about women and PUA and taking our wife off the pussy pedestal experience this and especially when we learn it is a FUCK of a lot easier to game new pussy than to warm up an old, cold pussy. This is one of the known dangers of taking the Red Pill.

Most of this is from the anger stage- Oh fuck, if I had known this earlier I could have 3 plates. So MOST of this feeling will pass.

Not all of it though. It will become a nagging anxiety instead of an overwhelming desire if you manage to make it out of this stage without blowing up your marriage.

SorcererKing · 2015-12-10T20:31:05+00:00

I view every aspect of life through the 'Red Lens' and this subject is going to get all the shades of blue, red, purple, and pink.

You get one life, if you want to divert energy towards maintaining a chick on the side, then be discreet and understand the high risk (getting caught) and high reward (the feeling of conquest only another pussy can provide). You won't get that high from your wife, but you also have a sure thing with her.

If you want to do it, none of us are here to judge, you are your own man.

I am satisfied with what my wife is bringing to the table, to the point where I've been wondering if we were fucking too much. If/when I hit the point you're at, I don't know what I'll do so I guess I'll have an [FR] for you if and when the time comes. To be completely honest, I do place heavy emphasis on a man's word and the vows I took, I meant.

This isn't to guilt you, I'm just giving you my personal take on the issue.

If you want foreign snatch bad enough then get it, just be fucking smart.

Edit: Another question to ponder would be whether or not you're feeling that you need another chance to prove you're still a man and to get that attention you missed out on years ago.

Maybe it's age or wanting to show off new muscles/skills to a chick besides the one you feel is obligated to give it up to you.

Having a random woman tell you Yes, I want you to fuck me is a notch in the I still got it belt.

Hellboundforpeace · 2015-12-11T10:55:20+00:00

I don`t know, if you are the same guys being so angry about women cheating, but if you are, why do you consider it okey for this guy (or guys to cheat)?

UEMcGill · 2015-12-12T20:24:05+00:00

You're in a validation trap. Too many fucks to give.

On the one hand, you like the validation of being able to pull strange. I get it, it's empowering. On the other hand, you fear the negative consequences that may bring, you seek positive social approval from your peers; validation.

Ask yourself, what kind of people do I surround myself with that they would judge me based on superficial reasons? My BIL got caught messing around online, and my first thought was "can't believe it wasn't sooner". My SIL is a fucking harpy. I judge people by the sum of their actions. There's few people in my life I know wouldn't blink if I got caught messing around. Those are people I keep in my life.

People that bring kids into it, are horrible people. That's none of their business. We don't talk about sex lives to our kids, and that includes this.

So back to giving too many fucks. Personally, I have a rule to never say never. If I'm sitting next to two hb10's and they tell me, "want to be the meat in the lesbian sandwich" fuck yeah, butter me up and call be roast beef. Will it happen? Probably not, but at least I know where I stand. And I'll fucking do it because I don't care. If I got caught, I'd own that shit too.

People come and go, including shitty towny gossips who would talk about it years after you stepped out on your old lady. But they're probably talking behind your back already. So why are they in your life in the first place.

Stop seeking validation and live the life you want.

exotictantra · 2015-12-11T12:57:46+00:00

hence the problem with being RP in marriage.

Cause a true RP guy wants the best woman he can get. Which in most cases should be a HB9 or 10. Any lower and a RP guy's eyes wander and he wonder why he should stick around with a woman who has a lower SMV than him. Why stick around when there are woman of similar SMV is available to him.

Why is he expected to keep his vows when the woman is not expected to keep her vows and is willing to fuck regularly only if the man is RP and ripped as fuck.

adamalan · 2015-12-12T03:35:14+00:00

This reminds me of the hierarchy of alpha men

You could probably plot your relative alphaness against what your wife will tolerate. brothel outside country < … < discrete mistress < rumored affair < open mistress < claiming bastards < having >your wife assist in selection of your harem (as seen on Marco Polo).

"Caught cheating" is where he went wrong. You can't get caught doing something you're doing in the open.

Are you leading, or sneaking around behind your masters back?

RPcoyote · 2015-12-12T14:30:14+00:00

As a guy who also found TRP ~10 mo ago, and implemented with some success on home front, and also with deep desire to act on newfound knowledge to game and bang other women: I can opine. Not only that but I started acting on those ~2 mo ago and had had some affairs. See my OYS postings.

If you can do it with a straight head and not let it get to you go for it. In my case I had a lot of fun the first time - after that it's declining returns for greater and greater risk.
Indeed the first time you unleash the new you and game a woman to complete seduction (and amazing sex) it's so liberating and life affirming, I could not stop smiling for two days in a row (at how big of a stud I was). Huge confidence boost.
However.... Aside from obvious risks, impact on home front is double sided: A: at times I was more OI (talk about true abundance mentality if you do get (better) sex somewhere else) and more assertive with my expectations in bed in light of new found wisdom. B: other times and maybe more lingering: it damages my connection to my spouse in subconscious and subtle ways. Maybe it's because of a weakening frame or somehthing, and getting too distracted in my mind by having to manage a couple of plates, cover tracks etc.
I'd say do a very cold rational evaluation and decide on that basis what you're going to do when you're going to be oh so tempted: is it going to be loads of fun? You better believe it. A new woman is intoxicating when you dominate from get go knowing what you know now. Does it expose you in ways that IF FOUND OUT you will be embarrassed when looking in mirror and likely regret having put so much at risk for a good time with new pussy? Probably.

Only you can answer that. If you do decide not to veer off the straight path, the key is not to deny the feeling of temptation, but to distract yourself ahead of time, recognize it and plan for your response as much as possible. Recognize the bait but view it in right context. Think Ulysses tying himself to mast to not be tempted by syrens' songs.

2015-12-11T00:14:25+00:00

Once you become game aware it's like shooting fish in a barrel. ALOT of the issues I believe men have with cheating is the projection on how they would react to HER cheating.

It's very different. Women obviously wouldn't like it but chances are good you can keep it hidden and even pull off getting caught if your great enough.

Women do forgive cheaters but they never ever fucking tolerate a beta

bogeyd6 · 2015-12-10T21:09:14+00:00

I have learned a lot of new skills and techniques that I kick myself for not knowing back in the day, and there is a hunger to 'try them out'

So get out there to bars/libraries/meetups that are no where near where you live. Go hunting, even if only for the thrill. Cheat at your whim and how you see fit. You are your own judge. Go out there, try these new "moves" out and if they work bring them home to use on the wife.

If you don't want the repercussions, then just go out and practice. Hell, when you get good enough, practice in front of your wife to let her know that other women find you attractive.

GarbageBunny · 2015-12-16T02:43:06+00:00

Maybe your wife also wants to fuck other people. You guys ever talk about it?

Title	Red Pill life making faithfulness a challenge
Author	spexer
Upvotes	13
Comments	39
Date	December 10, 2015 8:16 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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