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Some men and women like posting about their lives on social media more than others, and they post lots of different content. I know lots of women who barely post on social media or it’ll just be a random picture of their pet, nature, art, their friends and have their profiles on private. And then I know some dudes who post shirtless gym shots and “thirst traps”. That woman’s reasoning is one woman’s reasoning for doing so. Many people do it for other reasons and sone don’t do it at all. Why is r…
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 05:41 PM
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Sounds like an Old Spice commercial tagline
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 02:50 AM
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You’re good, you just never know what headspace a dude might be in on here, ya know?
/r/ExRedPill11/11/23 12:19 AM
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This is unnecessary rudeness. Dude already knows his ideas aren’t good. He’s trying to change.
/r/ExRedPill10/11/23 11:31 PM
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Women are humans with the the same feelings we have. They fall in love, they want to be loved. Humans in general when seeking a healthy relationship want someone who is loyal and trustworthy. Humans in general who are seeking love and a healthy relationship want to feel special to their partner, they do not want to feel like “just an option”. We’re the same species. Learn to imagine yourself in the other person’s shoes. If someone I was dating and starting to fall for told straight up told me th…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/23 07:33 PM
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Well that sounds like plenty of great things you’re talking about. But that also contradicts what you said above. So, I’m not understanding what you’re seeking help with exactly.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 09:47 PM
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Okay, well you have the chance to be creative now and I already provided an example (discussing hobbies you engages in that week). What are a couple topics about yourself that are a little more authentic you can talk about? Why not have a few topics already selected in mind so that when you’re hanging out with people, you can bring them up as a starting point. You said you’re good at asking questions, so lots of natural progressions of conversations are like a ping pong game of one person shares…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 09:37 PM
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You’re correct, doing things and liking to do things does not guarantee you a partner. Nothing is a guarantee. We tell you to do those things FOR YOURSELf. So for example, you mentioned you have many hobbies you enjoy like yoga for example. Usually, when people have hobbies they enjoy or do fun activities they like, they enjoy talking about these things and sharing their experiences with others. You have something to talk about that you are knowledgeable in and can ask them about it too. It also…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 08:21 PM
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The way you replied to these questions comes off as confidence other than your fourth reply about not knowing your personality and what kind of personality you would be compatible with. You seem confident with what you like to do, you enjoy socially engaging with people, you have no problem with talking to women and initiating hanging out with them, multiple people said it is not your looks, you’ve met people you are interested in and had no issues asking them out. What am I missing here? I’m no…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 06:18 PM
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From what you wrote and your comments, it seems you have trouble asserting yourself, your needs, and asking women out. Like you try your best to not really be seen or cause any conflict - just ask questions and listen, no opinions of your own, lack in confidence in who you are as a person. Do you have trouble in general with people pleasing and asking for things you want? Example: would you comfortable right now to reach out to one of your women friends and asking them to go to an event/activity…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/23 05:55 PM
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Why do some guys like go after “bad girls” and stay in unhealthy, toxic relationships with them when they have the option to leave? I’m not going to get too deep into this and I don’t know her very well, but a common error I see here is that women are all-knowing, wise beyond-their-years and have an abundance of unending confidence. This just is not true. Women are people. They have flaws and insecurities, they have slips of bad judgment from time to time, they’ve had different upbringings. Just…
/r/ExRedPill07/11/23 04:25 PM
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That’s good insight, you know what to work on first. As a heads up, physiologically alcohol makes anxiety worse even though it initially feels like it takes the edge off. Gotta find healthier ways to manage those physical symptoms, especially when quitting drinking. Maybe even something like a chill distraction - just taking a walk, talking a hot/cold shower, breathing/meditations, idk you gotta find what works for you cause it’s a different journey for everyone. No shame in looking into meeting…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 09:12 PM
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Nothings gonna change if you don’t make changes my guy.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 08:37 PM
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Glad to hear about the two days. That’s a big deal even if it seems like a short period of time. And congrats on the job interview! Sorry to hear about the last job, but that shit can happen and the best we can do is make it a learning experience for ourselves. Why grab a drink after the interview? Is there something else you can do instead to celebrate but in a way that’s healthier for you? Reach out or post if you ever need support with the sobriety. I’ve worked with many fine gentlemen in rec…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 07:38 PM
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Are you considering transitioning? If you feel so lost inside that the only thing that gives you a glimmer of comfort is the thought of living as a woman, I’d honestly encourage exploring it. Talk to others who may have felt like you. Experiment with how you feel in the mirror and in pictures in feminine clothing/makeup/hair. Think about what it might be feel to be recognized and acknowledged as a woman. Gender is fluid, you can do some experimenting without making the choice to have invasive su…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 07:32 PM
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Please read my comment above as a heads up brother. Taking care of any substance use issues is first and foremost in tackling mental health problems. Drugs/alcohol numb us and don’t let us actually get to the root of our issues so we can start healing. Best of luck brother.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 07:10 PM
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Just wanted to add in case anyone comes across this: Ecstasy messes with your serotonin receptors PERMANENTLY, which affects your overall mood regulation. The come down can be brutal for those who are already prone to depression to the point of suicidal ideation. Do not do ecstasy without doing your research and DO NOT make it a habit. One if the few drugs your serotonin receptions can’t come back from and you’ll be reliant on it just to feel normal and not numb. Honestly psilocybin or lsd is sa…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/23 07:08 PM
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I do feel like myself, yes, but a couple things about that: I’m human and all humans have bad days and times where they feel really down or discouraged or disappointed. So don’t expect to always feel 100% perfect, we’re not robots after all. Also, I would say that who I am now is a better version of who I was before all those depressive times. Getting out of it made me a stronger, more resilient person, and I gained a lot of wisdom about what’s important to me. I also learned where all my negati…
/r/ExRedPill03/11/23 11:19 PM
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I meant that sometimes it comes back (almost like getting the flu again) if something is triggered, but it’s not as intense. My triggers are usually related to family stuff. But I’ve learned how to handle it, not to let the negative thoughts get the best of me, and I’ve learned what I need to do to get myself out of that funk before it gets too bad. So, I would say I’m no longer clinically depressed, but I need to stay on top of taking care of myself. If it’s REALLY bad, like you’re completely n…
/r/ExRedPill03/11/23 10:53 PM
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Depression could look like a lot of things, and I’m not sure you have a full grasp of what it is. You’re being vague on purpose I’m assuming because you don’t actually care to meaningfully engage. Okie dokie then.
/r/ExRedPill03/11/23 10:31 PM
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“But I do wish I was them socializing and laughing with each other” - so what’s stopping you? I get you man, depression is soul sucking. I dealt with some bad deep major depression in my teens and part of my 20s. Almost flunked out of high school because of it. Is there anything you’re currently doing to get help for some of your depression symptoms? A tip that was useful to me was understanding how to “fact check” my thoughts because I had a lot of thoughts that FELT so real, but they were not …
/r/ExRedPill03/11/23 08:04 PM
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Humans are social creatures. We tend to like pleasant interactions with other humans, especially those we can relate too like our classmates, peers, coworkers. They’re in our environment so we tend to like to know them a bit. Like when I have a new co-worker at work (or met someone new in my school programs), it’s always “where are you from? What do you like to do on the weekends? What part of the field do you like?”. Now if you’re depressed, socially anxious, or very insecure, you might want to…
/r/ExRedPill03/11/23 06:16 PM
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Yes. I’m in a relationship so we’ve talked about boundaries we would be comfortable or not with in the friendships. We’re also both friends with each others friends at this point, and our opposite sex friends are mostly coupled themselves. I can acknowledge if one of my friends or coworkers is good looking without making it more than just an observation. Helps that I grew up pretty close to my sister and girl cousins (many of which were tomboys), so women never seemed that mystical and different…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/23 04:08 PM
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Agreed, they want there audience to feel angry and emasculated. It’s so aggravating every time I see those Jack hats speaking as if their words apply to all men.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 03:55 PM
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Yes, I was just talking about higher probability due to the obvious component of survival. Prenups are a wise idea if either one of you owns a bunch of assets and has a bunch of wealth before marriage or have kids. Not very relevant to my situation if you were implying I should get one. I don’t have/want kids, or own any major assets yet. I make good money but my fiancé makes even more. Nothing the redpill says is relevant to my life lol Be wise, have boundaries for yourself so you don’t get use…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 03:53 PM
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Stop talking like all of us are the same and want the same things. I don’t want kids. I want to travel and do awesome stuff with my partner and explore different avenues if my career. Love kids but I have zero desire to be a dad. Plus, plenty of women can have healthy kids anywhere from 20s to 40s. Science and healthcare has advanced since the stone ages. You speak as if you want an incubator, not a life partner. Don’t group yourself with all men please.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/23 03:41 PM
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Do those dudes seem like mentally healthy, happy, well adjusted dudes to you? First guy was literally in jail for human trafficking. That should clue you in to what kind of value these guys might have. “Kind of messed up” is an understatement. I’m in my 30s and plenty of men my age including myself find women closer to our age attractive and prefer to date them. It’s about how similar you are mentally and where you are in life. People under 21 can’t even drink (US), and they’re still taking intr…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 10:24 PM
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Yup. They aim to create a divide between men and women by “othering” women; Making all women seem evil, manipulative, and unrelatable to dehumanize them. It’s all very purposeful to twist reality. After creating this divide, they create another divide between men - “high/low value” which furthers the hierarchy. Then by making all their viewers feel “low value” they’re able to keep them coming for back for more content that teaches them to be “high value”. It’s a grift (and also a pipeline for al…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 10:00 PM
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You are not broken beyond repair. You are facing challenges in life and are experiencing problems with your mental health. This is very common at your age and is a great time to work on it. The way you think about women and your phobia of them can be worked on if you actually want to make changes and are willing to put in some work (maybe therapy, maybe reading more about mental health, maybe practicing small social interactions and practicing conversation skills, maybe working on changing negat…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 09:18 PM
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Redpill often contradicts itself because lots of people can claim to be redpill but have there own ideas. Mostly it’s conservative traditional values warped with some narcissism/entitlement or pure insecurities. To the gurus online, it’s a grift to make money by making their viewers feel angry and inadequate. So there really is no “true” redpill the way it’s looking online right now. What would be more helpful to you is to learn to think critically for yourself and stop looking for sone influenc…
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 09:10 PM
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Everyone who falls for this grift should be forced to watch that scene in Wolf of Wall Street about selling a pen.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/23 01:29 AM
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Political and religious views aside, advanced math and science courses and extracurriculars like philosophy and literature help expand’s one mind from being closed off to differing ideas and viewpoints, and aid in teaching critical thinking skills. Education shouldn’t be about politics alone, or “common sense” for that matter. I don’t see what understanding factual biology, history, and statistics has to do with swaying your political viewed or a lack of common sense.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/23 05:17 PM
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I get tired of people who say that too. Ignore them and let them live with their strained mental health. I like to surround myself with people who are aware that men are human beings with a full range of emotions. I also understand that anger is often a masking emotion and there’s actually lots that is going on under that.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/23 10:57 PM
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Thank you for taking your time to respond to all that, I appreciate it, truly. You’re a lot stronger than you think bro, and you sound like a really wise man. Rushing into relationships can definitely cause problems down the line, and it’s so common in our first relationships ( I’ve been there too). I’m glad to hear what you’ve learned from your experiences. I’m confident you’ll have some awesome experiences in the future (and still lots of learning ahead and always haha). For now, let yourself …
/r/ExRedPill19/10/23 03:02 AM
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I don’t understand if you’re tying to leave that mindset behind or not. You know what sub you’re on, right?
/r/ExRedPill19/10/23 02:41 AM
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Thinking of people as either winners and losers is enough to get lots of downvotes. That’s a pretty unempathetic and often narcissistic way to look at humans. That’s the big deal. Makes you sound like a judgmental asshole to put it bluntly.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 07:31 PM
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“Feminists are usually bad.” “Women are more valuable to society than men.” My good sir, the second sentence is why we NEED feminism. Neither men nor men are MORE valuable to society, and feminism aims for equality. I think you are confusing man hating misandrist extremist with a political ideology. Reputable accredited feminists in academia who represent the ideology do not hate or devalue men. An attention seeking rando on tiktok who’s never read feminist literature in her life saying “men are…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 07:22 PM
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Ask him. Have a conversation. He’s probably insecure and thinks it will make him be an “alpha man”. If y’all have conservative or traditional values, he’s probably getting brainwashed that he needs to learn how to be a “real man” through those influencers. Bigger question: why are you more comfortable making a post online to strangers about how hurt and anxious you feel and trying to do the impossible by being “perfect” instead of talking to your bf about it? That doesn’t sound healthy or happy.…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 07:10 PM
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Sooo here’s something that the redpill doesn’t want you to know. There are more possibilities in life than just the two options of 1) have no backbone and be used by people 2) never trust a woman again. Right now, you are hurting. You are processing bad relationships. This is normal for both men and women. What the redpill does is it plays on your emotions when you’re the most down and hopeless and hurt (like after a bad relationship or breakup, or to those who have trouble talking to women at a…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 06:55 PM
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Thanks bot
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 03:42 PM
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Of course the women want returning customers, it’s a business and that’s how you earn money. By providing the customer what they payed for (which a lot of the time includes kindness, flirting, faux relationship (not unsimilar to a strip club). If you liked the experience - you were aroused, felt comfortable with her and wanted by her - then the job was done well. It’s your responsibility to understand what you are paying for. People can get equally unhealthily attached to alcohol, strip clubs, g…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/23 03:30 PM
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Do you have any other friends? Do you get this angry when your guy friend don’t like and comment your posts? Were these the only women you’ve ever talked to on a friendly level? How do you define when someone is your friend versus just a friendly acquaintance that works somewhere you frequent (like the gym)? I could be wrong, but it sounds like these ladies were not close friends, but more casual, friendly acquaintances. It sounds like you expected something more from something that was just cas…
/r/ExRedPill17/10/23 02:54 PM
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That’s awesome, hopefully you can take the course another semester. I believe social psychology courses deal the most with people who get into cults/extremist cultures. And hey, if you never get to take the course, you can always watch some lectures posted on YouTube or read articles from the researchers themselves. There’s lots of credible sources and accredited professors who post that stuff! Just make sure you’re avoiding redpill/online scanners and coaches. Look for lectures recorded in repu…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/23 06:21 PM
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I don’t know much about the rp gurus as individuals but this makes sense. That’s a big red flag in itself - someone who got a college degree is using their marketing/business/whatever skills to tell other people not to get an education because then they won’t believe the bs they’re spewing. It’s like your dentist telling you not to brush your teeth and floss (and avoid learning about dental hygiene) so you end up needing their services even more. That’s pretty sad.
/r/ExRedPill10/10/23 06:04 PM
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That’s awesome man. Proud of you for getting yourself out there and creating more opportunities for yourself in life. Some advice that was beneficial to me when I was in uni: network network network! Join study groups, clubs, volunteer at labs/clinics/whatever, go to your professors and TAs office hours, make friends with your classmates, ask people to study with you and exchange notes with you. Having a large network of support is great not only for your career but also for your own personal li…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/23 05:06 PM
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As someone who went to university and grad school, yeah, pretty much. Women are just normal people like you and me with their own individual differences. Redpill influencers will say and do anything to convince their audience that educated women are the devil and that the only path to success through building your own business (through classes they are selling). It’s a load of bullshit. Honestly, if more dudes went to college they’d be better prepared to defend themselves against the misinformat…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/23 04:59 PM
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That was supposed to be “for men”. Thanks for pointing it out, corrected the typo.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/23 09:26 PM
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The first thing you need to do is realize this is an issue your husband is having, because no, most men are not red pilled (but I will say that those who follow traditional gender roles and tend to be conservative/religious are more susceptible for falling for redpill recruitment tactics). Next, most men start getting into RP because it is playing on there insecurities. Your husband is dealing with feeling insecure, maybe not “man enough”, maybe he feels ashamed of his income or his lack of care…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/23 08:38 PM
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Hello, male mental health practitioner here. I regret to inform you that redpill is not about men’s well being and usually ends up being a source of deteriorating mental health for men. Edit:typo
/r/ExRedPill09/10/23 08:22 PM
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Redpillers don’t date many types of people because of their own insecurities. There is no percentage that can be calculated because lots of them say different things. One might say date women who rely on you financially and one might say date women who don’t expect you to pay for them. No point in adding to the list really:
/r/ExRedPill06/10/23 03:20 PM
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Currently live with my fiancé so we see each other everyday. When we were dating, we both had really busy schedules because of our schooling/interning, so we’d see each other over the weekends unless we had a big project or something due. If it was a lighter week, we’d maybe see each other once during the week. Then the weekends turned into 3-4 days together because the pandemic had us working from home so it was easier. Currently, the sex varies depending how busy/tired we are. Some weeks it’s …
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 02:44 PM
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An acquaintance of mine at my old job was saying this to me towards the beginning of my relationship. At first I just thought he’s being sarcastic, which he kind of was, but after a bit it became obvious it was jealousy. Like sorry I don’t want to stay for the shitty parking lot bbq when I have dinner plans at my favorite steakhouse with someone who’s company I enjoy more than my 1 year long internship acquaintances.
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 10:47 PM
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Imagine if you put all this mental and emotional energy on improving your own life and chasing your own personal goals instead of putting all that mental energy on someone who clearly is not trying to change. Find something else to focus on. Spend time with your friends and family. Be open and transparent with your therapist. Take some new classes. Travel and meet new people. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is basically untreatable as those with the diagnosis are one of the least likely to see…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 10:36 PM
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If your username is a mix between mighty boosh’s old Greg and Succession’s cousin Greg, just want to say you are one cool human being lol
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 07:50 PM
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And you believe this is how most people function, so you are trying to prove it on Reddit? Are you trying to say we would all be better off cutting off intimacy in our relationships? Should I start behaving the way you do while I’m currently engaged? Do you think my fiancé will stay with me if I started to act emotionally distant from her? Do you think that will make her want to have sex with me more (when currently she’s initiating more than I am multiple times a week)? I just don’t understand …
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 07:06 PM
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What does “simp” even mean to you? That’s not really a real thing outside of weird redpill circles and meme jokes on social media. Am I a simp for the plumber I paid this weekend for fixing my garbage disposal? I don’t think so. An individual is offering a service that you want and you are paying for. Simple as that. It’s business. I didn’t expect to fall in love with my plumber and I don’t expect him to text me about things unrelated to the job at hand and outside of his business hours. I don’t…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 06:45 PM
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Why would an adult stranger who knows nothing about you feel such strong emotions like disgust and hate if you’re not doing anything to disgust them or make them hate you? Those are such strong emotions and they typically don’t come from just being in the vicinity of someone who isn’t a “chad”. Are you disgusted and filled with hate by random strangers just walking past you, minding there own business? Strangers aren’t thinking about you that deeply. You’re just assuming that you’re a kind reade…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 06:29 PM
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Idk why you’re getting downvoted. People most susceptible to RP view points are usually growing up in a conservative/traditional environment. It draws in the men who DID grow up hearing “men are the providers and women want a provider” from their own families. If all the women around you are told they need to be a stay at home mom, then the women who agree will look for a sufficient provider (can cause competition in smaller rural towns) and the ones who disagree move to bigger cities with more …
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 06:23 PM
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Just as a note: this user is currently married through an arranged marriage, and I believe he is from India where love and sex are culturally vastly different than what many of the users here give advice about. He is often trying to prove that marriages are loveless in the western sense and that personality/connection/intimacy do not have anything to do with physical attraction and sex. He is also admittedly reclusive aside from necessary social interaction and he does not understand the point o…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 05:27 PM
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My brother, it’s been pretty established that the way you experience love and feelings is not the same as many of the people here (and I would argue most people in general). Not everyone experiences a deep and meaningful love. But many people do. I don’t understand why you’re always trying to prove that love is meaningless and sex is only about objectification and the man’s orgasm. Just accept that people are different and let it go man. Sorry you do not feel more attracted to your wife as you g…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 05:18 PM
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Did you point that out to him? “Hey, I feel like you’re giving me weird vague answers” or “I find it strange how you don’t feel comfortable talking about your beliefs. Whats going on? Having similar beliefs in values in a relationship is important.” If he shuts you down in this convo it’s not a good sign. A good partner is willing to discuss shared beliefs and compatibility. Shutting down important convos is a big predictor of breakups/divorce. Edit: Jordan Peterson has very conservative religio…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 09:54 PM
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Why didn’t you ask him to explain his redpill beliefs to you? Ask him what a relationship means to him, what real love looks like to him, and if he believe relationships have specific gender roles he expects to be fulfilled. Also, is he religious? Lots of religious, conservative folks get drawn in by the traditional gender role aspects of redpill, but then that can easily turn into an extreme the more and more he listens to those dudes. He could just like the Jordan peterson “clean your room/be …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 08:55 PM
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Well, one question; do you see a relationship as a partnership or a power play? If you see relationships as a team effort, then you would realize that having someone on your team who had a good career and makes good money is a GOOD thing for your overall life, well-being, and resources you have in your relationship. A woman who has a similar mindset will appreciate a partner that brings SOMETHING to the table to demonstrate his own responsibility, but they don’t expect you to be sone aloha provi…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 06:57 PM
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Why would that be controversial? To us “sex havers”, this is common knowledge. People have sex for all kinds of reasons - not everyone is looking to improve their skills or learn more about what their partner wants. So they’ll stay bad at sex. What actually makes someone better sexually is communicating with their partner about what they like/how they like it. That’s why you often hear couples say that the sex gets better further into the relationship because you’re actually learning about it ea…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 06:41 PM
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……bro, you keep assuming you know what all men and women want. I said my fiancé makes significantly more then me, not that I don’t make a good amount, and I’m quite successful in my career. I have had the option to leave her for younger, less experienced women who showed interest in me at work. Easily turned them down. I’m not some high value alpha, just a guy in love who respects my partner. My fiancé is around my age (in our 30s), and she’s had wealthier, more “successful” guys try to date her…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/23 02:25 AM
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Congrats, you fell for exactly what the influencers want you to fall for. It’s a power fantasy they’re selling to you bro. It’s snake oil. Sure, be a mean ass hat that nobody likes. Focus on being a bully to make yourself feel better about your own short comings. Let your anger consume you and not let you think rationally. Come back in a year and update us with how happy you are. You posted here specifically looking for an argument or for people to tell you not to do it. Why? If you feel so empo…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 11:11 PM
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I stopped reading after your second stage app because you keep using the term HVM, which is ridiculous since everyone values different things. Plus, you seem to think young women already have some inherent wisdom about who they are compatible with from a young age and they don’t have any growing up, maturing, and learning to do themselves before getting into a serious relationship. You’re very wrong in that. Young women are just as clueless and dumb as young men. Your experience with the world, …
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 09:10 PM
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I’m confused why a married dude is trying to explain the redpill perspective but I guess you do you. I’m engaged and my fiancé and I laugh at how ridiculous redpill points are. Also confused why you think all women who have had wild kinky sex are promiscuous. You know a woman could have had a few serious relationships that all involved different kinds of kinky sex? Is that still considered promiscuous? What if she only had one boyfriend for 3 years and they tried everything together in a loving,…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 05:45 PM
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The issue here is you are pretending that only two kinds of women exist: the pure virgin who makes a good mother/wife, and the promiscuous “whore” who sleeps with everyone and is into kinky sex. By putting women into only two categories, it’s like your objectifying them for what use they have to you. You’re not seeing the women as actual people with nuances experiences. Your logic fails to acknowledge that there are many women who make responsible parents and good partners who also like kinky, d…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/23 04:22 PM
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Plenty of people have you great step by step answers to your points. I just want to say that most of these issues stem from you spending too much time online and believing everything you read in online spaces. All the points you made are easily disprovable if you spend a significant time out in the real world and get to know lots of different kinds of individuals. What people seek in a partner is so different from one another because we’re all different people, and women are no different. You th…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/23 08:54 PM
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Well yeah, learning confidence, assertiveness, and social skills is helpful to everyone in all aspects of life, not just dating and hitting in women. I guess I just don’t understand how that’s about masculinity or redpill values.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/23 05:35 PM
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Therapy, specifically DBT, might help you figure some things out and teach you some skills on dealing with the intense emotions that come up. I know it’s not always easy to get access too though.
/r/ExRedPill24/09/23 05:32 PM
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I mean, women should learn confidence too, no? Also, who’s to define what it means to be masculine? Do I gotta chop wood or something?
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:33 AM
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Shoo troll
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:30 AM
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Your troll comments are dumb. People with more weight on them can be attractive, both men and women. And the initial logic is still flawed. Be gone troll.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:29 AM
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All I hear when I see that phrase is: I have a fear of abandonment. Okay, how are you going to work on those trust issues my dude?
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:09 AM
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Hope you can learn to trust again one day, my man.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:04 AM
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Hope you can learn to trust again one day, my man.
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:04 AM
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People your age are bad at impulse control. You’re still growing and quite hormonal. Cheating is much more common around your age demographic (even when I was your age over 10 years ago) because people are still learning not to act on their impulses and how to prioritize what’s important to them. Lots of people your age aren’t even considering serious relationships because that’s an unstable time - people are moving off to colleges, moving for job opportunities, traveling, focusing on education,…
/r/ExRedPill23/09/23 12:03 AM
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It’s immature because it’s catered mostly to lure young boys, especially teens who have not fully developed their sense of self yet. So by nature, it’s immature. The whole thing is a grift to play on young and lonely men’s insecurities. The grifters will say anything that riles up peoples emotions (like you will never be worthy of love if you don’t make six figures, have a six pack, and are 6 ft tall). They’re setting unrealistic standards because that’s the only way their viewers will keep comi…
/r/ExRedPill21/09/23 04:11 PM
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The most important factors I’d say are 1) to consume media critically and 2) to pay attention to how it’s making you feel. For 1), it means that every time you go into a new subreddit (especially about dating advice and gender roles), you need to be aware that there are so many different individuals posting on all walks of life who may or may not be trolling/lying/purposefully spreading misinformation. You need to learn how to fact check on your own and recognize when someone has a redpill agend…
/r/ExRedPill19/09/23 11:18 PM
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You were given some good answers already, so I just wanted to touch on the conservative religious environment you mentioned. Redpill draws in a lot of conservative/right wing folks because when you take a step back you will realize “alpha male” and “submissive woman” are just fancy new terms for the traditional gender roles where the man is the primary financial provider and the woman is the primary child caretaker/homemaker. So is what you are seeing around you real “redpill”, or is it just rel…
/r/ExRedPill19/09/23 02:43 PM
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When you understand that the redpill YouTube influencers/gurus are all a grift, it makes sense that non of that they say is consistent because they will say anything to rile up the emotions of their fan base and keep them coming back for more. Now think about who is mostly drawn to redpill initially: usually young men who feel like “losers” because they haven’t had any experience with women and they have been bullied by their male peers. These young naive men think the key to being successful an…
/r/ExRedPill18/09/23 07:34 PM
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There’s a difference between being aggressive and assertive. Typically, being assertive is seen as a positive trait and demonstrates confidence and self control. Aggressive is usually seen as a negative trait and is seen as rude/having a lack of self control. I think it’s important to learn this difference.
/r/ExRedPill17/09/23 04:39 PM
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Some men* and some women* There are plenty of men and women who have done a lot of self work and introspection who actually know what they want and aren’t contradictory. Humans mature and grow, and the more you actually know yourself, the more you’ll understand what you need in a partner (and that goes way beyond just the physical for both men and women).
/r/ExRedPill15/09/23 02:45 PM
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Oh well, if you have a Vegan and Bobas then I cannot argue your point! Lol That argument always cracks me up because my fiancé makes significantly more than me and we both see it as a win for us
/r/ExRedPill15/09/23 02:37 PM
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No, no, but you see this persons very real research is as credible as the research done by Purdue pharma on OxyContin. Opioids aren’t addictive and redpill is right! /s
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 10:13 PM
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Right. And the way they described how women have all the power and “women can just be women” while guys have to be providers. They’re clearly not a woman. And the way they say “look achieving your childhood romance fairytale should be natural and easy! Trust me guys, I’m a sociologist! And also a psychologist!” Like he is clearly none of those things.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 09:13 PM
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Well, I stopped and then met a woman who also hates the shallow rigamarole of dating apps and wasn’t on them. So worked out well for me and most of the people I know!
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 09:09 PM
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Your fist and only post on Reddit as a “woman sociologist, psychologist, and philosopher” shows a heavy misunderstanding of credible research methodology and statistical understanding (as well as flaws in logic of how you are applying findings of these studies to other contexts). Gonna start off my just putting that out there. Your credentials don’t seem believable at all. Early on you acknowledged that online dating has become more popular in recent years. As a women yourself, you probably unde…
/r/ExRedPill14/09/23 08:42 PM
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Yes, people who are out there bettering their lives and getting shit done are not wasting their energy complaining about others. It’s counterproductive.
/r/ExRedPill10/09/23 04:17 PM
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1) why are you friends with someone eh thinks your inferior? Don’t do that. 2) your friends words do t align with feminism. Please tell me which accredited, academically respected feminist wrote “men are trash and women are superior”. Honestly your “friend” just sounds like she’s having issues with her own ego. 3) what did your class teach you about what traits men find attractive about women? Then, how do you think all those women who don’t fit this biological standard should feel? Did your cla…
/r/ExRedPill10/09/23 04:05 PM
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Yes. When you take a step even further back, you can see that the influencers/gurus spreading redpill rhetoric online don’t even practice what they preach. It’s a grift. They don’t actually want men to find a healthy, stable relationship, they want men to stay angry, confused, and in a state of hopelessness/insecurity so that they keep coming back for their content, keep giving them likes and shares, keep sharing the videos/messages to other young men to recruit more followers, and eventually be…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/23 04:52 PM
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If anything, truly “understanding” is the opposite to redpill, and someone with proper education and understanding of social/cultural dynamics would not fall for the lies of the redpill. For example: red pill relies on its followers to NOT have a good understanding of statistics, research methodology, psychology, biology, neurophysiology, sociology, and anthropology, business/marketing/finance. Accredited professionals who are experts in these fields have more “understanding” of humans, relation…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 05:39 PM
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Can confirm. I’m a feminist and had to breakup with my fiancé because I have to be gay now and like dudes. s/
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 10:27 PM
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Someone can claim to be a devout Christian and say that they worship satan and he is the one true Christian God. Would you still call that person a Christian? Someone claiming to support feminism - which advocates for gender quality - is saying men are not actually equal, they are “trash” and “lesser than”. How are they a feminist? People can just jump on the internet and say words that don’t mean anything. It’s up to us to think critically about what we see and consume online because sadly most…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 10:25 PM
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Hope you find that for yourself one day, man! I’m lucky that I’ve lived in heavily liberal big cities and I’m someone who has been focused on education/academia, and I like women who are similarly education/career oriented and value independence and self-reliance. So I’ve met lots of women who see relationships as a team effort and they expect equality. I’ve done a lot of self work to be where I am now and so has my fiancé. I think that’s what makes us good partners to each other now. Lots of le…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 10:12 PM
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Most people that I have experience with and have worked with who are abusers tend to have a very negative self-image and hold lots of insecurities about themselves. I wouldn’t say it’s as literal as self-harm, because I think they’re not as aware of it as someone might be who actually self harms like with cutting your self. It’s more subconscious. Example: I worked with an abusive father of two who felt like he was a failure in life and he would take it out on his kids, blame his kids, and if hi…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 09:53 PM
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How exhausting. Don’t you ever want your future wife/gf to pick where to eat one day or makes plans for a date? Sometimes after a long day, I want her to just pick whatever she is feeling. And doesn’t she ever have ideas she wants to try out or do you think all women just like to only mindlessly scroll online while their lives are controlled for them? Also, what about talking about it and making a mutual decision together? Doesn’t that sound healthier than trying to be a mind reader and having t…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 06:58 PM
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My fiancé made the first move by buying me a cup of coffee, and later I asked her out for dinner. I made an effort to set up fun, unique dates and so did she. There’s nothing wrong with saying something like “you plan the next one!” In a relationship. If you feel things are uneven, it is your job as an individual human to advocate for your own needs and communicate to your partner about them. Now she makes significantly more than me and pays for majority of the bills. She pays for more expensive…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 06:06 PM
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They don’t see women as people. They see them as lesser humans, as second class citizens. This is what racists and homophones and all the “isms” do as well. Part of their ideology is to dehumanize the group they dislike. If the US colonizers had seen black people as real, equal humans, there is no way all the slave owners could have done what they did, same with the native Americans. Same with the nazis. So same with women. Even abusers seem to view their spouse and children as an extension of t…
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 05:46 PM
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And I deserve a billion dollars. Where is it?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 05:29 PM
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This is really dumb to me because you seem to think you know how all men feel and that they all feel similarly to you. I’m assuming you grew up in an environment, town, family that are more traditional and look down on those who have causal sex. That’s probably where your feelings towards a women who has had sex before is coming from. It’s nothing biological, it’s just what you were taught to think and what you learned has “value” for women. The way you talk about women and your “secret garden” …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 05:29 PM
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I have a social life, and I also like trying to help young dudes out in tough life situations. I don’t see that as a negative thing. Quite the opposite actually.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/23 03:10 PM
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You missed my point that it is not about your level of attraction. My whole point is that hooking up requires a series of social skills and social engagement that a sex worker does not (and attraction matters too, but not to the extreme degree that most inexperienced dudes things). Hooking up isn’t easy for everyone, especially those who have trouble with social engagement and conversations skills. An attractive guy who doesn’t know how to talk to other people won’t do too well either. Sex worke…
/r/ExRedPill02/09/23 06:21 PM
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Good man, proud to hear it!
/r/ExRedPill31/08/23 09:49 PM
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How do you think isolating yourself would help? Do you think surrounding yourself with healthier people might be more helpful?
/r/ExRedPill31/08/23 07:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing that info, I didn’t know that! I was never really into RP myself, so I don’t know much about his history, but I saw what I thought were very obvious patterns before the 2016 and 2020 elections. Nothing against people who lean right, but I do have a big problem with alt right/white supremacist values which supposed rp talking points are spreading like wild fire. It’s strange to me how this isn’t discussed as much when we talk about how/why people get drawn into RP. By bringing …
/r/ExRedPill31/08/23 12:27 AM
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Shame on your for waking up today and deciding to be a bully. You’re not being edgy or cool. Reflect on why you feel the need to put other people down so you can feel better about yourself.
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 08:07 PM
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Sounds like a good marketing tactic/advertisement for a divorce lawyer lol
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 07:02 PM
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My brother, this is a learning experience. The lesson is not ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT, the lesson is that this one individual did not have her financial shit together, was not good about communicating her expectations in a relationship, and did not have relationship expectations that were compatible with yours. Now you know what kind of woman you DONT want to be in a relationship and you now should be smart enough to try to learn these things about an individual before getting into a relationship…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 06:36 PM
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I think the toxicity is more about her communication style and how she handled her expectations in the relationship and ignored OPs concerns. Not so much the traditional values. Like traditional the way you describe it sounds healthy with a stay at home parent/provider, but this unemployed 21 year old demanded not one but TWO holidays when she knew her financial situation and OPs situation. And a 21 year old expecting another 21 year old to magically make six figures is unreasonable, and in THIS…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 06:19 PM
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Fully agreed! This is kind of long, but I really enjoyed reading it if you haven’t already: https://dam.gcsp.ch/files/doc/white-crusade-how-to-prevent-right-wing-extremists-from-exploiting-the-internet Talks about the specific tactics used and compares the similarities and differences to certain muslin extremist groups. I specifically enjoyed how they explained the go to tactic in to Us has to be subtle like with memes and jokes and skirting in places that aren’t obviously alt right but have pot…
/r/ExRedPill30/08/23 05:35 PM
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Some perspective from the US, there has been a pattern of redpill talking points and manosohere ideologies that align with the far alt-right values and researchers have observed redpill is a pipeline into more extreme alt right thinking. With the upcoming elections, my guess is we will see a heavier push for these RP taking points including more “harmless memes/jokes” and new gurus popping out telling men that the right way to be a man aligns with traditional right wing values. We saw the first …
/r/ExRedPill29/08/23 06:15 PM
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Interesting point, made me think about how one of the main redpill talking points in regards to work is to be your own boss, have your own business. I assume this type of messaging attracts the kind of guy who isn’t very education/career oriented, and they believe having their own business (even when they have zero experience/education in business) is the magic answer to making your own money and not having to deal with/listen to others in work settings, especially women. While I very much respe…
/r/ExRedPill28/08/23 06:32 PM
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Yes. Ask yourself why you think you need to listen to what redpill says about women when it makes zero sense to your wants and your reality. It’s nonsense. You’re a grown adult, you can do what you like.
/r/ExRedPill26/08/23 06:31 PM
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Have you tried masturbating without porn? That’s a much healthier way to deal with your hormones (and can help train your mind to not rely on pornographic visuals to get off). You’re making things harder for your hormone addled brain than it needs to be. You’re just a dude at work trying to do his job. She’s just a woman at work trying to do her job. She’s not a pornhub actress. Just a person trying to earn an income to pay her bills like you. Y’all don’t know anything about each other and she i…
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 05:38 PM
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You keep posting random redpill talking points and don’t engage. Mods, why are you allowing this?
/r/ExRedPill25/08/23 03:45 PM
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They gotta paint someone as the enemy to recruit an emotionally charged army of misinformation spreaders online. Free lobbying?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 12:36 AM
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Hello, man here who also majored in psychology. You seem to think all men think the way you do, and that is not true. Your question is silly. People are so different. Gender doesn’t matter if they are trustworthy. Some people are, some people aren’t, and it can differ in many situations. My fiancé can trust me not to cheat on her but she can’t trust me to bring the mail in everyday (I tried, my brain just wants me to forget that one thing before I come in). But I’d say I’m a trustworthy person. …
/r/ExRedPill24/08/23 12:26 AM
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Here’s an article on the political pull: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/701155?journalCode=signs There’s access to the abstract. If you’re interested, you can look up more articles by researchers on how redpill and alt right spaces have the same users. Alt right policies in the US (if you’re not from there) hold views that are harmful to women. O
/r/ExRedPill23/08/23 11:57 PM
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I understand, I totally agree with you. It’s just that on this sub we have to be really careful not to sound like we’re making generalizations about either gender because that could be harmful for sone individuals who are truly trying to escape the redpill mindset. A young insecure boy might see the comment and think to himself “I want to be cherished too. Why do only women get to be cherished? That’s not fair” and go deeper into the redpill mindset. So just in case, it’s good to be cautious on …
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 09:52 PM
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Good job on realizing the dangers of redpill and understanding how it specifically plays on the feelings of men who are feeling low. It’s tempting to listen to because redpill blames everyone else for them problems and speaks about becoming an asshole so you are not a doormat. This is faulty advise. The world isn’t black and white. There isn’t only two options of being either a shy/scared doormat or being an aggressive selfish asshole. The redpill fails to tell you that it is possible to find a …
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 09:36 PM
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Just so we’re not furthering harmful generalizations, yes women like to be cherished in their relationships and so do men. People like to be cherished and valued by their loved ones and in healthy relationships it’s reciprocated (I wouldn’t call it pedastalizing, I don’t see that as very healthy). It’s not really related to being masculine or feminine. And yeah, redpill says to do the opposite because they’re ultimately afraid of having their feelings hurt so they play games in order to avoid vu…
/r/ExRedPill22/08/23 09:06 PM
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I genuinely believe that many of the pillars who firmly believe that all women want a very specific “alpha” guy with the dumb 6 foot, 6 figure salary, six pack thing are subconsciously setting themselves up for failure so that they do not have to try. If all women want Chad and I don’t fit into that, then there is no point in me trying to talk to women, facing the possibility of rejection, and getting my feelings hurt. It’s an easy cop out and rids them of their responsibility in the situation. …
/r/ExRedPill21/08/23 08:27 PM
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Hi brother, sorry seeing your exes car got you in a negative head space. Breakups can take a bit to heal from. Where are you seeing all this praise and support for men being useless? Where are you seeing that every woman thinks you’re a predator? The first step is to get off online spaces with all that gender war crap. Next, do something to distract your kind from the thoughts you keep ruminating over. Something that makes you feel calm, grounded, peaceful, or happy. Not just posting on Reddit e…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 09:27 PM
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It’s not only for the banter, but it’s a big part of the fun. You cherry picked one thing and ignored the rest of my comment. I’m an introvert but I like fun conversations when I’m in the mood, just takes me longer to recharge after and I need more alone time after a social event. Idk why it’s hard to believe me, some people are like me and sone are not. People are different and like different things. Flirting is fun for me. My fiancé and I still flirt with each other all the time. I don’t see i…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 07:10 PM
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As someone who has had brief periods of casual sex (I prefer committed relationships, but sometimes the circumstances aren’t right), it’s way more fun than paying someone for sex. With casual hookups, people generally enjoy the overall experience of it rather than just the orgasm. From my experience and the experiences of everyone I know in a healthy, sexual active relationship, the sex is way better when you’re in a relationship and have strong feelings for that person compared to a stranger. W…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 03:22 PM
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This has been my experience as well as someone who has lived in a few major US cities. I’m talking cities with 1-3 millions people. Every one I know who wants to date is able to find someone to date - all types of people with various physical appearances, incomes, lifestyles. People very much do what they need to in order to survive. That’s why “hypergamy” (both men and women) is more prevalent for those who come from poverty because they are trying to find a way to survive and looking for oppor…
/r/ExRedPill16/08/23 02:17 PM
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I had those shoes too! Oh lord, the Walkman nostalgia. So many illegally burned CDs and music downloaded on Napster/limewire. Being the burnt CD dealer amongst your friends, now THAT was edgy lol /s
/r/ExRedPill15/08/23 06:26 PM
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Well said! It’s so interesting to see the logic they will completely ignore so long as the narrative feels good to them and their egos. Your points reminded me of the developmental psychologist Erickson and his theory on developmental stages. According to the Erickson model, the phase of our teen years is when we learn to individuate from our parents and start becoming our own person and formulating our own role in life instead of “child of mom and dad”. This is why teens like to rebel and want …
/r/ExRedPill15/08/23 06:03 PM
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It’s all so dumb to anyone who understands even a sliver of psychology/sociology/anthropology. The text reminds me of a few “edgy” dudes in middle school who would walk around with the Satanic Bible (Leveyian) they bought from Barnes and Nobles to seem badass and taboo. The text was equally cringe, well actually that one was a bit less cringe than this from what I recall.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/23 04:35 PM
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Great way to state it, I completely agree. Riddled with political propaganda on both sides so they don’t stop to think about the bigger issues.
/r/ExRedPill15/08/23 12:55 AM
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There’s a trend of redpill behind a pipeline to alt right rhetoric online (multiple researchers have seen a trend of redpillled individuals and conservative/right wing values). So I’m guessing by including religion with their messages it’s an easy way to draw in the religious/conservative community who are more likely to believe redpill talking points. Those people would probably stay away from the non-conservative dating/hookup advice messages of redpill but throwing God into it draws their att…
/r/ExRedPill13/08/23 06:12 PM
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Hmm here are some thoughts that might be helpful to consider: Is he genuinely trying to unlearn the redpill, and is he comfortable talking about the issues that stemmed from the redpill openly? Is he open to being corrected by y’all? If so, someone like that may be helpful on your team to share their experience on how the redpill/modern day internet pipelines affected him and how it’s riddled with racism if the topic comes up. if you do let him in, it might be helpful to review what he might sha…
/r/ExRedPill11/08/23 11:41 PM
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This is hard to quantify because first you’d have to define what the “incel mindset” is, which many self-identified incels themselves cannot even agree on. Many young dudes I see on Reddit call themselves incels because they are virgins, like 14-16 year olds! At that age, it’s completely normal to be a virgin. Most people that age are! But because of the online echo chambers and whatever self-esteem issue/bullying a kid is going through, he might identify with the incels online for a sense of co…
/r/ExRedPill10/08/23 07:57 PM
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Sounds like he has a lot of hurt from his childhood/parenting dynamics that he needs to process. Definitely some mom stuff going on there. I think therapy could help him process those things, but he has to be willing. Lots of dudes would rather get angrier and angrier at the world rather than look inwards to find where all that anger is really coming from.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/23 05:03 PM
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Hello friend. As an older dude (30s) I want to say that the way you are thinking is normal, it is mature, and it is healthy. The men in my life who I consider solid people think the way you do. You are experiencing young men objectifying women because they cannot fathom women being their own people with their own minds, emotions, and goals. These dudes probably have not had any close relationships with women (including friends and family) so they can’t understand women in any way other than what…
/r/ExRedPill02/08/23 09:31 PM
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Jocks. Don’t you know? Those are the only two genders. /s
/r/ExRedPill02/08/23 03:13 PM
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Ahahaha, those dudes couldn’t handle being with someone like her, they’d be so intimidated. Doctorate degree, makes six figures, competent in mental health and stats, smart as a whip, internally and externally gorgeous, kindest heart, career focused and doesn’t want kids. Their egos would crash and burn.
/r/ExRedPill01/08/23 10:31 PM
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Some people age well - usually those who take care of their bodies with a nutrient rich diet, get exercise, protect their skin from sun damage, etc. Basically the stuff your primary care doctor tells everyone to do for health’s benefit. This isn’t gendered. I’m in my 30s and so is my fiancé. We’re at similar life stages and I feel like we understand each other well. I enjoy conversations with people our age and can relate to them much more than when I am talking to younger folks. I would rather …
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 10:59 PM
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Dear god, I can relate to this all too well! Hahahaha
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 09:13 PM
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Yes, getting married won’t make an unhappy person happy the same way that just getting a girlfriend or losing your virginity won’t solve all your life problems. I’m currently engaged. I don’t think my upcoming marriage with automatically bring me happiness. However, I’m pretty content with myself and my life (always room for improvements of course and still working on personal goals), and I love my fiancé and I think we make a really great team, so we want to spend our lives with each other. We …
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 09:02 PM
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Being a good conversationalist is definitely a skill, and even those who are pretty decent at it will have off days or boring conversations. Not every conversation and interaction can be 100% engaging and fun. I grew up pretty shy and had to learn a lot of conversation skills through observing people around me. When I was around groups or with friends, I would pay attention to how the initiate conversations, how they responded, what kind of questions they asked, how they listened to others, etc.…
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 08:49 PM
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Hmmm, from what I am gathering is that maybe you are not feeling like you’re part of the friendship/group when you are not actively engaged in conversation with the other person/people. If you are not part of the conversation or are not familiar with the topic being discussed, you feel excluded and not like a priority. Does that sound about right? If so, this could be more of a conversational skills issue which absolutely can be practiced and improved! The same skill is needed within a romantic …
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 06:51 PM
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Okay
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 05:48 PM
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1) Do you like the people you are hanging out with or are you hanging out with people that put you down? 2) What does it mean to you to feel “lonely”? 3) If you are spending time with people and still feel lonely, why would a gf be any different? (Minus the initial excitement/newness - I’m talking longer term).
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 05:45 PM
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How come? I thought you said you want to go but feel bad going because you don’t drive.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/23 05:42 PM
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Sweet! One step closer to going back to those car shows you liked, right? Were there any guys you’d talk to/get along with there?
/r/ExRedPill29/07/23 01:13 AM
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That’s pretty cool, art skills are dope. That sounds like a good alternative instead of doom scrolling negative content. Same with the reading, you can learn a lot! Feeling lonely sucks, and I get that you’re limited until you drive. It helps to focus on what’s in your control right now. If you’re not in spot to date right now, focus on spending time with other people instead of being isolated. That can even be your immediate family, maybe cousins, neighbors, friends that drive/live close by. If…
/r/ExRedPill29/07/23 01:00 AM
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That sounds reasonable to me. That’s the law in most places (as whatdidshewrite pointed out). You mentioned you have a job, so looks like the next step is finding an affordable insurance?
/r/ExRedPill29/07/23 12:48 AM
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Hey friend, I think this post showed a lot of growth on your part and it sounds like you learned some things about yourself and the kind of things that keep you feeling down. That kind of self reflection takes a lot of strength. It sucks facing a rough spot in life. You’re definitely not alone in that. What’s something you could do to help keep you distracted from all that negative internet content? Try to think of something not technology related if possible, even better if it’s outside - like …
/r/ExRedPill29/07/23 12:32 AM
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Ohh got it! Thanks! :)
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 09:04 PM
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Pardon?
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 09:02 PM
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Woah, the blatant racism trying to be disguised as something else in those comments and similar areas of the internet is appalling. Thanks for the example! I’m so very glad to hear that you were able to realize what was going on and got out of it. It’s unfortunate how so many people don’t question what they’re consuming and fall into these traps. Your comment made me realize how important it is to accurately teach history and the results of movements like fascism and hierarchies. I see kids spew…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 05:54 PM
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1) If you want real knowledge and wisdom, the first step would be to question why you think all women have the same lived experiences and views on sex/relationships/hookups. 2) don’t use the word “body count” unless you’re a professional hit man otherwise it’s cringe as fuck to people who aren’t chronically online. Mature adults don’t talk like that and certainly don’t view sex with past partners that way. 3) Do you know how “averages” works? Like in math class when we learned you get an average…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 05:04 PM
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Thanks for explaining this so well. I don’t blame feminism AT ALL as I myself identify as a feminist. However so much of the issue with falling into these rabbit hole extremes online comes from not being able to critically think about where the content is coming from and who it is coming from (anonymous posting and trolls makes this more difficult). Any rando who has never read feminist literature and taking points or explain what feminism is can post a tiktok or tweet about what it means to be …
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 04:43 PM
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If it brings any ease to your mind at all, as a man with a solid group of guy friends I consider great people, I can assure you this is not how every other man is thinking. I roll my eyes at RP talking points as it just reminds me of the dudes I knew in high school who thought life was supposed to be an American Pie movie until they grew out of it.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 04:29 PM
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I was thinking this too. I feel like RP views breed anxiety and paranoia, especially to the folks who already started anxious/neurotic. I see young men take ALL the anxiety they have about life in general (school, work, socializing, family issues) and focus it on women/dating like a bandaid. So it kinda looks like OCD but it’s more the anxiety about their current obsession (women due to RP teachings). This is just a complete Reddit observation with no real grounding, but I feel like I’ve noticed…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 03:58 PM
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RP has made relationships feel like it’s about “winning” and brownie points for “power” in the relationship. They make it a game because their egos are so fragile everything is a competition to them. As you noticed and feel, this is not healthy in order to meaningfully bond with another human and form a relationship that isn’t based on silly child games to avoid vulnerability. Think about how it makes you feel when you see she messaged you first. Do you get happy? Do you feel excited? Do you fee…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 03:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing. I think more young men need awareness of the propaganda that is being spread for the alt right through redpill. Many studies show again and again the trend of the manosphere as a pipeline to alt right views. It’s starts as a self-improvement ploy for insecure young men that then starts assigning value to person based on socioeconomic class and eugenics based on white ideals. I’ve seen 16 year olds innocently looking up flirting advice and within a few months they consider LGB…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 03:29 PM
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No, I wouldn’t suggest that. Maybe a break up would be a wake up call to him that what he is doing is not okay. Staying with someone like that might enable him to think what he is doing is working. Don’t stay in relationships where you are not being treated well. And depending on how far he is down the rabbit hole, maybe you can have a conversation with him about how you feel about his views, what the relationships means to you, what you consider disrespectful in a relationship or whatever might…
/r/ExRedPill28/07/23 02:43 PM
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No one is above you or below you. Life isn’t about ranks of who is better or the best. That’s true for people who live a miserable life full of comparison. Everyone will always be “better” than someone in some way. It’s not a competition. However, as living creatures, we need to do what we need to in order to survive in our current world. That means money, transportation, food, and shelter are things we need in order to survive as self-sufficient human beings. I need a car to go to my job, I nee…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/23 09:05 PM
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Hey my man, sorry you got caught up in all the negative turmoil of angry/hurt people online expressing hate. It doesn’t feel good to anyone, both men and women. Some things that might be helpful to point out: While you are not in control of what other people say, you ARE in charge of the content you look at and the time you spend with that content. The more we consume something, the more it will occupy our minds and start to effect our own feelings and thoughts (about the world and ourselves). D…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/23 07:27 PM
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Thank you for starting this discussion. I work in the mental health field and I think race (as well as socioeconomic class) should be discussed more when we are looking at redpill theories. Redpill/the manosphere as a whole is saturated with racism and white supremacist ideals. It’s been observed in plenty of studies that redpill spaces and theories are a funnel into alt-right, white supremacist ideologies. It’s starts very basic with “self improvement” for young insecure men which quickly becom…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/23 05:39 PM
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Not sure about the actual content creators because ultimately what they say is bait to draw in more viewers - but for the viewers themselves - it’s important to understand mostly who is drawn to red pill. Most of the viewers are teenagers and young adults who have fears and insecurities related to dating, most have had zero experience, and some have had very limited negative experiences regarding women/dating/bullying from peers. When you think about that, you can see why it’s comforting for tho…
/r/ExRedPill24/07/23 05:21 PM
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I see. So wouldn’t the solution to this dilemma be to date women who also don’t like an abundance of casual meaningless sex? No use getting hung up about hypothetical scenarios about the type of people you wouldn’t date since y’all have different core values and outlook on life/sex. Doesn’t mean casual sexy is wrong, but it does mean it’s wrong for you. While the whole pair bonding RP talking points aren’t scientifically accurate, people general do better in relationships with those who hold sim…
/r/ExRedPill21/07/23 03:28 PM
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Could it be that there are women who exist who feel the same way you do about sex, or are the only kind of women who exist all obsessed with partying and casual sex? What if a woman values sex the way you do and she has been in two serious relationships in the past that didn’t work out therefore she has had previous partners. Would you still not be able to trust her?
/r/ExRedPill20/07/23 08:00 PM
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Whoops, was trying to reply to the main post, not your comment. My bad, please ignore.
/r/ExRedPill20/07/23 07:59 PM
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Just like you and your buddy, women are different people. Do some women care? Yes. Do some women not care? Also yes. And then there’s the fact that “too high” as a “body count” (using that term makes me cringe, I’m not a hit man) is subjective. For some men and women, a lot of partners means more than one. For some men and women, it means more than ten. For some men and women, it means more than 100, and on and on.
/r/ExRedPill29/06/23 09:46 PM
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My man, you need to realize you’re idealizing the experience of being a woman and it is not based in reality. Women, just like men, are very different from one another. Also people, both men and women, can be judgmental of other men and women who have different values as them. You’re thinking in a closed-off way, only thinking of your own perspective. Some people will praise you for being a stay at home dad and some people will not. Some people judge moms who don’t work and want their husband to…
/r/ExRedPill28/06/23 07:12 PM
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I feel like it really depends on the circumstances
/r/ExRedPill09/06/23 02:12 AM
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Genuine question: why do you keep ignoring factors like conversation/social skills and chemistry building in person? The women I’ve known who like causal hookups usual find someone to hookup with at a bar or party or something after chatting with them a bit and feeling out the “chemistry”. They don’t just go for the chadliest chad in the room. It’s happened to me too. By limiting yourself to only observing dating apps, you’re forgetting the strength of how it feels to “click” with someone in per…
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 09:37 PM
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You tell yourself these things on repeat to avoid interacting with the real world and real humans. This isn’t about gender and dating. I genuinely think it would do you good to see how humans are interacting with each other and connecting socially outside of the the internet - social media and dating apps. You’re obsessed with finding a formula to describe all human dating patterns and there just is no one correct answer. You’re driving yourself insane my man.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 06:43 PM
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My brother, you need to step outside into the world and interact with people or this obsession will never go away. People are not formulaic equations.
/r/ExRedPill08/06/23 05:57 PM
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This isn’t redpill my friend, this is common sense. Average dude stays at home all day and doesn’t talk to anyone. Therefore he does not meet any women. Average dude goes outside of his room to a location that is frequented by other individuals who may be looking for hookups and he meets a woman. This was just an example of a dude going out of his comfort zone and maybe the redpill content he watched gave him tips to be more assertive with the women at the club (being assertive and knowing how t…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 08:37 PM
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The problem I see here is not your height but that you watch smash or pass videos and think that’s how people actually select their partner. While attraction is important, no one is perfect and you don’t have to look like a male model to attract someone. Are you ONLY trying to attract women that look like models? I’m on the shorter side myself and plenty of my buddies are your height with varying fitness levels who have both had casual hookups and fulfilling long term relationships. So the redpi…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 06:23 PM
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Exactly. I would absolutely love to see my partner, my women coworkers, my friends, and even my sister on that show just ripping them a new one. Even my old-school, traditional mom would probably destroy them lol. But most of their grad/doctorate level degrees and emotional stability would probably disqualify them from the show lol
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 12:12 AM
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Cultural influence is definitely real, but it would be wise to understand that different cultures exist. For example, where I live, but you seem to have ignored my second paragraph. Maybe if you live in a very conservative or religious/traditional state or country, more women will be expecting the traditional roles, both for themselves and for their men. Maybe you’re in an area like that. Many women where I live don’t want kids, don’t want a provider. Or they love their jobs so they want to cont…
/r/ExRedPill01/06/23 12:04 AM
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Traditional women would be more attracted to traditional men and non-traditional women would be more attracted to non-traditional men, no? People want partners that align with their values. If I told my partner (who makes significantly more money than me) that I want her to work less so she can take on more household chores and so I can be the breadwinner, she would be gone faster than lighting. If I told her I want to pay for all our dates and trips, she’d call me dumb because splitting things …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 08:04 PM
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From what I’ve seen, they’re like the kids in the playground that hear you have 5 colored pencils and they have to run up to the class to say “OH YEAH?? Well I have 6!” Like not everything is a competition and about looking cool. It screams insecurity and a desperate need to be “liked” by who they think are the “cool kids”. Consider: who are these guys that you expect them to be 100% honest about their lives? They’re trying to be mini celebrities who curate a specific personality and lifestyle f…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 06:43 PM
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Depends on the people and the context. What context do you have in mind? Approaching someone in a bar? Asking out from online dating? Creeping into people’s DMs? Asking an acquaintance out that you’ve been hanging out with/seeing more frequently? Someone you’re having flirty banter with at a the gym? You have to learn to examine the context of the dynamic between the two people because everyone is different and people will act differently in different situations. There is no one answer that will…
/r/ExRedPill31/05/23 06:09 PM
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Both mine and my partners libidos are pretty high. You don’t have to cheat if you have a high libido. Masturbation exists even if you’re in a relationship. I’ve found it easy to reject other women because I love my partner, I want to share the rest of my life with her, and I don’t even want to think about breaking her heart like that. It’s flattering, yea, but one orgasm isn’t worth ruining the relationship I’ve build with my partner. Going to the gym three days a week and saying no to a donut w…
/r/ExRedPill24/05/23 05:51 PM
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I don’t understand how that has anything to do with what I wrote.
/r/ExRedPill20/05/23 02:02 AM
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Lmao Hold on, we have to call all the social scientists to tell them the good news. Marriage counselors can pack their bags and go home.
/r/ExRedPill17/05/23 11:25 PM
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To help get out of the redpill mindset, you need to first acknowledge that different people have different ideas of what’s important to them. Then, you need to realize that there are extremes and middle grounds to all of these scenarios (ex: there’s a middle ground between being a wealthy billionaire and someone who has zero income). Having some money is important because it allows you to actually have a life outside of sitting in your room, but that doesn’t mean you need to be wealthy, just eno…
/r/ExRedPill11/05/23 06:06 PM
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I’m not as familiar with the YouTube content creator messages, but I know there’s a high correlation of people with white supremacist and far right wing ideologies and the manosphere spaces online. Lots of straight up racism and then internalized racism.
/r/ExRedPill09/05/23 02:36 AM
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If it helps, think of it this way: you did what you thought you were supposed to do at the time to meet your goals in that period of your life. You since have learned better and have changed your behavior accordingly. People make mistakes. It’s how we learn. Take it as a learning and growth experience. So many dudes are still stuck in that mind set and haven’t learned a thing. Your miles ahead of where you were before and that’s something to be proud of. You learned how to treat/not treat future…
/r/ExRedPill05/05/23 10:49 PM
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My good man, this doesn’t sound like a smart woman. What would you say to a guy who was like “I don’t care that big boobs hurt women’s backs, I need my woman to have a HUGE rack because that’s what makes her feminine.” Sounds idiotic, no?
/r/ExRedPill04/05/23 05:11 PM
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Camera angles in porn make things look bigger than they are (think about where the cameras are while they are recording), and porn stars are specifically chosen for their above average size so that it can be more noticeable for the camera. Porn is a visual medium. It relies on visuals and sounds only to get the view off - what actual feels good for the actors/actresses isn’t part of the equation at all. Most porn is created to get views and get people off, it’s not created as an educational tool…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/23 05:07 PM
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So for some reason I believe what I THINK see and I’m completely ignorant about the people I work closely with everyday and their partners, all who I have met, but you see can see what is REALLY going on? Can you teach me this magical ability? Strange how you jump right into making an assumption about how I look rather than wondering if something else might be going on. You got a one track mind, kid.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 07:57 PM
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I wish this was higher up. Because the harmful stereotype of “women are emotional” exists, lots of men forget that emotionally unavailable women exist just like men. There are women who were abused as children when they were “acting out” too much or being “difficult”, so they learned to keep everything to themselves and learned it’s unsafe to to be emotionally expressive, same as lots of guys from those households. Or women whose ex reacted poorly to their emotions because that ex was emotionall…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 07:41 PM
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Would you actually believe us if we told you we see this outside? Also attractive is subjective. Just walking out my office at work, there are a handful of attractive women in relationships with dudes who aren’t RP alphas, they’re just average dudes. I also consider my partner incredibly attractive and way out of my league, but she’s super into me. From what I’ve seen, it’s more about lifestyle compatibility, not just appearance. Somehow I don’t think this will change your mind because you can f…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 07:29 PM
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Lots of dudes in that sub are younger men. Younger folks in general, especially teens and early 20s, aren’t the best at navigating their emotions - both with sharing them and reacting to them. Lots of guys don’t know how much sharing is over sharing. I’ve read stories of guys disclosing their childhood sexual trauma on a first date or a drug problem. The average person is not a trained clinical psychologist and will not know how to respond to those problems, and if they barely know you, they may…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 07:17 PM
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Depends on your definition of “alpha male”. If I suddenly started acting like a cold, controlling asshat who doesn’t provide emotional intimacy and pretends I have other women on the side like the Redpill YouTube guys say, my parter would leave me in an instant because she’s a good person who respects herself and doesn’t like mind games. Now if you’re talking about being confident, knowing how to take the lead at times, working on my goals, not being afraid to share my opinions - then I would sa…
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 07:02 PM
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A lot of those YouTube redpill era are probably racist homophobes themselves. You don’t deserve to be treated like that and I hope you can get away from him soon. I didn’t feel like I knew who I was until I moved away from my father as well - so I think you have a very insightful journey ahead of you! Some advice based on what happened with my dad: beware of him pushing back on your decisions. Stay strong and remember that you’re making choices to benefit your own future, not his.
/r/ExRedPill02/05/23 01:27 AM
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Interesting stuff. Humans are heavily influenced by what their family/cuties/society wants, and each human is different when it comes to their own values. We’re pack animals after all. Sometimes that aligns with what their friends/family wants and sometimes it doesn’t. It’s interesting to me specifically because I’m a second gen immigrant in the US whose family is very conservative, traditional, and Christian. Men are providers and women are homemakers. Both my sister and I grew away from our re…
/r/ExRedPill01/05/23 05:27 PM
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What you describe already has a name or two: conservative/traditional relationships. And what you described are “traditional gender roles”. Redpill is not simply being conservative otherwise it would just be called that and there would be no “secret truth matrix about how women work” behind it all because traditional relationships have been the standard in most societies for a while now.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 08:59 PM
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This dude is a troll all over the sub. He doesn’t want to learn or participate in good faith. I just downvote and move on. Don’t feed the troll.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/23 08:51 PM
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Nah, you should come hang out with the liberals in my crew. We’re seeing NOFX play in a couple weeks, and we would never canvas for dopey ol’ Joe. Most politicians are sleaze bags, I just vote for who I think is the lesser of two evils. The internet highlights all the extremists on both political sides. There’s so much divide that people forget a middle ground exists.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:53 PM
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Ignore what you’ve heard redpill tell you about what is good enough. Do this thought experiment: What kind of woman is considered “good enough” to be with you? What kind of life does she have? Keep in mind women are individual people who all have different personalities and life goals - and you can’t create a partnership off of just physical attraction. Now please tell us: what do YOU think is being “good enough”? What kind of man would you consider to be “good enough” to marry one of your favor…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:19 PM
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Gotta bring back punk rock lol
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:11 PM
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If there’s constantly so many exceptions, it’s not really a “rule”, is it? Feel free to ask for any advice if you need bro. I’ve done a lot of growth from my depression days and learned a lot about myself and relationships. I’m in my 30s now and I try my best to help young dudes who are struggling. I know life can be really frustrating and feel unfair at times. Best of luck to you friend!
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 05:00 PM
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I was thinking this the other day! In my day, the sad lonely kids would take on the “emo” culture, those who wanted to rebel were punks/metal heads/skaters. I was all about being a metal head outcast and thinking “fuck the system” lol, but I never felt the need to take it out in women (but that’s what the internet is telling people to do nowadays and there’s been an infiltration of far right politics and extremism in spaces full of young dudes who want to rebel). Like every generation had their …
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 04:38 PM
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Okay, I’ll go tell my wonderful, loving partner that she’s wrong and isn’t being a woman correctly because a Reddit stranger told me so.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 04:08 PM
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Nope. None of that makes sense to me. All I got from that is you feel like you’re not valuable and it seems you base your self-worth on how many options you have. That’s sad bro.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 03:58 PM
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Would he be willing to go to relationship counseling? Sounds like the communication department could be improved between you two. Especially if emotions tend to run high (assuming from your other comments), it might be a good idea to talk about those differences and how it’s affecting the relationship with a third party. I’m sure you both have a lot of things to say to each other.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 02:53 AM
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Because relationships aren’t about attention. Do you care for your fiends and family or do you just use them for attention?
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 02:43 AM
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Broseph, not gonna argue the other points but I just really want to remind you that women are not born with “sexual market value”. Women are born AS BABIES and then they turn into CHILDREN where they have to go to school and have homework like you and then they are PREPUBESCENT TEENS where their bodies go through puberty and they compare them selves to celebrities like you did and they feel gross and ugly and now have pimples and weird leftover baby fat and body hair and gross teenager smells. T…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/23 12:31 AM
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That’s awesome, keep up the good work! Glad you’re healing after all that.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 11:45 PM
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So was I. Most of the girls I remember were crushing on pop stars and too shy/insecure/scared to date, and most of them weren’t even allowed to date or they’d be grounded. I think there was like one girl people spread a rumor about who gave a bj one time and that was about it. And the “relationships” involved hanging out at lunch break while awkwardly holding hands. Idk who you’re hanging around where it’s so common.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 11:35 PM
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What makes you an expert in the sex lives of 13/14 year old girls? 🤔
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 09:08 PM
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Understandable. I have a younger sister and nieces, and I fully encourage them to be cautious and have firm boundaries when it comes to dating.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 07:12 PM
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Every man is different with their own unique life and personal struggles. I would need to hear more about what the specific struggles are, what is going on in that individuals life, what their long term goals in life are (and if they even have any). People are single for many different reasons. Could be an underlying mental health problem, would be a drug problem, maybe they need to practice conversation skills, maybe they’re deeply afraid of intimacy due to trust issues stemming from childhood …
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:40 PM
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Why do think you like arguing so much? Do you like arguing about random stuff in general or is it specific to redpill/gender stuff?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:25 PM
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I feel like a lot of young men are pressured to go out and prove they can “get women” and have sex, so that’s what they try to do. A lot of girls grow up hearing “guys want to use you for sex”, so they are extremely cautious of being used, especially since younger folks don’t have as much life experience so it can be scary (both for girls and boys). An 18 year old dude is more likely to take a risk of meeting a stranger online for a date/hookup compared to an 18 year old women purely because of …
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:22 PM
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Genuine question: why are you here? You know there are other subs who agree with your viewpoints? Why are you coming to a place that specifically is against redpill? Does it feel good to argue against every single one of us?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 06:03 PM
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breathes PutsWomenOnPedastal breathes I…am your father.
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:40 PM
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Can you link us the article that “proves” the “20% rule”?
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:35 PM
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Sounds like a lot to process! Sorry you experienced that. I feel like it will slowly die down, but something else will pop up in its place. Political agendas are brutal and they don’t care who gets hurt along the way. There’s been lots of speculation about how how manosphere platforms were used as recruitment grounds during the 2016 US election (hence why it exploded at that time). Are you currently doing therapy or anything like that to help? I know you share your story in here quite often. Hop…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:20 PM
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Haha you’re SO close to understanding the whole “connection, intimacy, and closeness” mystery that everyone is talking about all the time. That builds when we spend time with someone, share our thoughts/opinions with each other, do activities together - that builds a sense of “closeness” with someone. Works the same with good friendships too. It is a lot of work, but to me those are the things I find most gratifying. I like work, maybe I’m a masochist haha “The grass grows where you water it” an…
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 04:07 PM
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You both may find this article enlightening: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20539517221145671#bibr7-20539517221145671 It explains the huge overlap between far right wing/conspiracy theorists and the manosphere. They essentially use the same fear based recruitment tactics and what this author calls “evidence-based misogyny” to spread misinformation to susceptible groups. Bit of a summery: “the constant repetition of claims that create images of a society divided into disadvantaged …
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 03:52 PM
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Thanks, man! I wonder what would happen if you and your wife actually hung out and started going on dates, talked about your thoughts on life and what you both enjoy doing outside of responsibilities/chores - maybe you’ll learn you actually like each other haha but idk if that’s weird in your country, as you know, I’m a westerner
/r/ExRedPill26/04/23 03:32 PM
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I can’t advise on the autism bit but I know there are commenters in this sub that have more experience with navigating that. As for hypergamy, my partner is more educated than me and she makes significantly more money than me, and I am by no means any kind of super fit Adonis with a six pack. We have many shared values though (don’t want kids, politically aligned, science/research nerds, big on nature and animals, shared opinions on finances and how we spend time with each others families) and w…
/r/ExRedPill25/04/23 02:26 PM
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So most of that data comes from studies that were paid for and produced by Institute for Family Studies (https://ifstudies.org). Upon a quick google and Wikipedia search (and reading more on their website) you will see that the institution is a right-wing, conservative, Christian organization and isn’t a true academically/scientifically backed organization. When reviewing research, it’s important to check out who is sponsoring/finding the research because those people will ultimately get to push…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 11:59 PM
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Half of them are selfish young dudes who can’t imagine not prioritizing their dicks for like two seconds and don’t understand the sacrifices that come with having kids/marriage, and the other half is probably trolls trying to piss off people with ragebaity topics to get some kind of reaction/argument because that’s all they have going on in their lives. There are probably some dudes who grew up with this mentality and saw their fathers/uncles do it while justifying it that way, but on Reddit I g…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 11:43 PM
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A) many men in positions of power do not want to hurt women and have no desire to abuse their power. “With great power comes great responsibility, Peter”. B) the MeToo movement was literally a response to those powerful men abusing their power over women (like Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein) to show it is not okay. C) sexually assaulting/harassing vulnerable women because of your position in power is not seen as something positive and I would not say those dudes are “getting women” the sam…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 11:34 PM
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I think you already got the main point from your own post: it varies across each individual, and it will vary depending on the type of relationship you want. Do you want kids and who will be there caregiver? Do you want to be the sole financial provider or would you like to split financial costs? Is your culture/religion important to you and how much do you want it incorporated in your life? What do you want to do in your spare time with a partner? How much family involvement do you want from bo…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 11:19 PM
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1) looks are subjective, so someone’s 5 could be another person’s 8. Similarly, someone’s 8 can range anywhere between like 6-10 for others or they could be a hard 1-2 for someone else because of some specific personal preference. Using numbers to rate attractiveness level is dumb. 2) lifestyle values, goals, and compatibility are far more important when it comes to lasting relationships, and those lifestyle values usually correlate to how a person looks. If a person values designer brands and e…
/r/ExRedPill24/04/23 10:53 PM
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Yeah it’s crazy! I recommend looking into it more! Specifically a calm inhale and looooong slow exhale is what does it (it signals out brain that we are no longer in flight or fight mode - where we do quick, shallow, rapid breaths). And for emotional regulation and anger management, they say to count to 10 or focus on your 5 senses because logic centered activities like counting takes us out of our emotional state a bit and helps activate the part of our brain that can think more rationally/less…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 08:00 PM
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I don’t think we’re on the same page here. There are more ideologies to fall into than just RP/PUA/backpill/incel manosphere stuff. None of that stuff was too prevalent when I was growing up, so what you said just sounds like “people need to take risks, make mistakes, and gain life experience.” Yes, I agree, but what does that have to do with RP/manosphere ideologies? Why put a label on “going out and experiencing life”? Women need to do this too to learn. If that’s what helped you in your life …
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 07:56 PM
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I can relate to that, it was easier for me to focus on hypothetical scenarios that I can think and read about for hours instead of dealing with the academic and family issues I was having at home. It’s a form of escapism with enough emotional pull to be successfully distracting. For me, I justified it to myself as as “but how can I focus on school when this shit is going on??” It was my mind bullshitting itself with digitally induced pain instead of dealing with the real shit in my life. Those a…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 07:43 PM
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The emotional triggers you constantly experience from feeling sad/angry about what you read can become addicting in a way. It’s almost like digital self harm at times. These subs cater to people’s worst relationship fears and sometimes we think by reading all of it, we can understand people better to avoid getting hurt ourselves. But that’s not helpful when it’s actually having a negative impact on your emotional well-being. Ask yourself: what does reading through these subs do for you? What hap…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 03:45 PM
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This is a good point. I want to add that so many of these boys/men believe deep down that they are unlovable/not worthy of love, so it is incredibly difficult for them to imagine someone loving them for reasons beyond surface level shallow traits. That’s why it’s so common for RPrs to come from abusive/neglectful households and childhood bullying.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 03:15 PM
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I don’t understand, you said the only way to learn is through experience, which I for the most part agree with when it comes to social skills and human interactions, but I don’t see what that has to do with RP? Maybe you are saying RP is what motivated you specifically to go out and interact with the world and people need SOME kind of motivating? That I can also agree with, but I feel like there are many sources that can accomplish that same goal without having to subscribe to misogynistic RP be…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 02:59 PM
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I agree with that however I’m someone who is stubborn and needs to know the “why it’s like this” before I can move on to finding solutions. I used to think breathing and grounding exercises were stupid until I learned the science behind them and how they’re cheat codes to activating our parasympathetic nervous system to calm down and activating the logical thinking/frontal cortex of our brain when emotionally spiraling. I’m also a big neuropsychology nerd, so I know I’m quite biased haha
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 02:46 PM
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I’m so sorry you had to experience that growing up. No child deserves to be treated like that and it’s unfortunate that so many care givers do not have the capacity to be healthy parents. I hope you understand that there was nothing wrong with you because of that. I see ShelbySecretary already recommended some great books, and before seeing that I was going to recommend The Body Keeps the Score as well. I grew up in an abusive household too and that book helped me understand what was going on in…
/r/ExRedPill20/04/23 12:06 AM
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That’s the problem though, people shouldn’t view things that are created for shock value and take them as serious knowledge to be learned. People need to learn how to manage and navigate their feelings so they are not pulled by something that is emotionally compelling for profit. I understand this is difficult, especially for teens and young adults who get sucked into this. You are right that sone of those resources are expensive, but some are free or rather affordable (you can find free videos …
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 09:52 PM
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I was explaining to you the perspective that some people experience when reading this post, which was your literal question. You asked why some women are defensive and I tried to help you understand why. Sorry for trying to answer your question, guess I’ll fuck off lol
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 09:05 PM
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No, absolutely not necessary. There are healthy resources out there that help with socialization and building relationship skills, confidence/self-esteem, social anxiety. Lots of legitimate and certified psychologists have books on these topics. Your primary care doctor can tell you that eating right and physical activity is important to your overall physical and mental health. Street smarts come from life experience and understanding what other people are motivated by - which comes from knowing…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 08:41 PM
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No, I’d say it’s not healthy. Being exposed to different perspectives, being able to think critically about what you hear, and then making an informed decision about your beliefs is a major life skill. As you grow, you will have to interact with many people who are vastly different than you (projects with classmates, coworkers, bosses/supervisors, friends of friends, partners of family members). It’s a major advantage to know how to get along with people who have different views than you. It’s n…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 08:26 PM
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I guess I just didn’t understand the point of your comment other than to provide your anecdotal experiences, to which I then added mine. Then we agree, some men and women do this while sone men and women do not.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 08:14 PM
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And I gave a legit honest answer. I genuinely think people would understand one another more if they put themselves in the others person’s shoes more and saw from the other persons perspective - which to me is part of empathy. Like the example I provided.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 08:10 PM
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Because those are the women you are noticing. Plenty of women aren’t in toxic relationships. What do you think about them? Most younger relationships can seem “toxic” for both men’s and women because young people are inexperienced and they’re just figuring things out. They can’t recognize red flags yet. People make mistakes, they learn, they grow. Plus, most “toxic” people, both men and women, often hide those traits about themselves and are usually good with manipulation until time eventually r…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 08:08 PM
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Seriously? Try practicing empathy and putting yourself in their shoes. If you saw a post here that says “why does it seem like guys only chase toxic women?” You’d be like “wtf, they don’t, not all guys are the same”. Apply that same logic here.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 07:52 PM
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You haven’t met the immature dude who calls every single one of their ex’s a raging bitch. Let’s just accept that both men and women do this, and then many men and women don’t do this. We don’t have to make everything a battle.
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 07:50 PM
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If you think this way about life, you’re going to have a bad time. As we age, we often have more life responsibilities - health/illness, family deaths, grocery shopping and planning literally every week/day, laundry weekly including bed sheets/towels/dry cleaning, horn owner upkeep (electricity, gas, plumbing, yard), family obligations in both your side and your partners, job loses/changes, moves, dealing with coworkers, conflicts with neighbors/landlords, raising kids (which involves literally …
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 07:18 PM
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While no relationship is perfect, your friends relationship sounds unhealthy and not something I would want to be in myself. I would absolutely tell both your friend and his gf to “work on themselves”, so idk what you’re talking about. For most people looking for a relationship they are seeking a healthy relationship, which is still not perfect and has some challenges. Getting into a bad relationship shouldn’t really be a goal because that will impact your life negatively and make life way harde…
/r/ExRedPill19/04/23 07:00 PM
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It happens, man. It happens to everyone all the time, including those same women you like. That’s why when people find someone they really mesh with, they choose to commit rather than chasing constant fun thrills. On the plus side, that would mean not everyone is superficial and looks for high “SMV” bullshit, but they’re actually trying to find someone they are compatible and click with. That’s good news, no? I guess it’s confusing if you don’t know who you are or what you want in a relationship…
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 10:00 PM
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/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 09:53 PM
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I disagree with you on that, but to keep your line of thinking going: So you posted this wondering if the women you find more attractive are as superficial as you? Are you assuming the women you want are only interested in men who are more attractive than you and it’s not because they didn’t click with you on a personality level? What if they are choosing commitment with men who they have more things in common with rather than just physical appearance alone?
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 09:48 PM
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Dude, stop talking about women like their apples or something. You’re taking about people. You don’t “lose”and “keep” people like that. They’re either agreeing to more dates or they’re not for whatever reason they have. How would you feel if a woman was posting in here like “why do all the guys above 6ft not want me, but all those ugly short dudes are so easy to keep?” My response would be “wtf is wrong with you for looking at people like that?” So like, wtf man? Maybe you’re just superficial an…
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 09:20 PM
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That’s not RP, that’s just traditional conservatism.
/r/ExRedPill18/04/23 12:45 AM
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As an avid supporter of therapy, this is a sad truth about therapy, and the healthcare system in general. I know really experienced clinical psychologists who practice very effective CBT and specialize in different disorders, but they charge an arm and a leg and take very few insurances.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/23 11:00 PM
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Depression is a soul sucker, I get it. And it’s okay that you don’t know what to say, that’s kind of the point. It makes you think about something you don’t know and you might find an answer if you try. That’s why people ask most of the time.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/23 10:40 PM
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You have a tendency to post the same questions on a bunch of different subs but you don’t really put a lot of effort replying to the people asking you questions about your situation and trying to give suggestions. I’m hesitant to answer because I feel it will just go wasted and you will post a similar question again in a month or so. We don’t know what you have been trying to work on since the last post. You won’t get different results if you are doing the same thing again and again.
/r/ExRedPill14/04/23 04:52 PM
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What therapy accomplishes is based on the issues and goals you bring into therapy. It’s specific to each individual. Have you identified what you want to work on in therapy? And don’t say “get laid” because that’s the service sex workers offer for pay, not therapists. Second, as many said, different therapists specific in different areas with various levels of education and experience. If you are looking for guidance on some deeper mental health issue like crippling social anxiety or major depre…
/r/ExRedPill14/04/23 04:22 PM
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You don’t know most men. I live in a large city, and none of my friends or coworkers or past classmates want this. It’s old-school traditional people and an insecure subset of men (that are every vocal online) who think this way. Or it may depend on where you live due to cultural/social norms.
/r/ExRedPill07/04/23 03:30 PM
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Reading through the comments, it looks like your main concern is about what this dude said about IQ. I don’t even know this man, but I can tell you he is not right about that (cognitive assessments are part of my field). My question, if I’m not over stepping, is there something going on in your life right now that is making you feel bad about your intelligence? Like anything with school/grades or something a bully said? Feeling insecure about our intelligence is completely normal, and if anythin…
/r/ExRedPill06/04/23 07:52 PM
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People on Reddit posting in gender specific subs are not representative of the gender as a whole. Those subs might give you some context about their experiences (safety concerns, dating difficulties), but places like that are often considered spaces to vent/support one another. It’s mostly hurt people telling their stories and looking for support, so of course their are going to be lots of bitter people. So in a way I agree that gender specific spaces like those on Reddit aren’t the healthiest. …
/r/ExRedPill06/04/23 07:20 PM
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You need to get to a point of self forgiveness. Realize that YOU are not a bad person, but your ACTIONS were bad. I’m sure you had a reason for those actions that seemed justifying at the time. But now you know better. Next, once you can acknowledge that you are not bad/flawed but your actions were bad, you can practice on changing your actions. Take your past as a learning experience and grow from it. Vow not to make the same mistakes again because you’re a better man today than you were yester…
/r/ExRedPill05/04/23 09:26 PM
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Yes, there unfortunately is a lack of support for ND folks both in the real world and online. I especially see many men from countries with less mental health education, and their families don’t believe in certain mental health diagnosis or believe it is shameful to seek treatment for something like that. The stigma is still every alive in well in many regions that mental health issues = crazy person who should be locked up. It’s sad and very unhelpful to young boys suffering through depression …
/r/ExRedPill05/04/23 03:34 PM
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That’s fair. Sorry if that sounded harsh. I was going with the “teach a man to fish vs giving a man a fish” mindset, looking at a long term approach to these situations. Hopefully your post helped you figure some stuff out.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 07:10 PM
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I do a lot of work in drug addictions and that’s one of the biggest reasons for relapse - not occupying their time. Might help to think of RP that way! Haha
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 06:48 PM
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So you don’t know if they are actually lying or not, and you’re trying to find out if they are? Well, why do you believe them? Keep in mind you are talking to a man who has a partner that makes more than him and absolutely does not want a provider. My sister is the same way in her relationship. You’re asking if all women want providers but the answer is “no, not all women want providers, and some women do.” So now what? Does this fact make you less angry? Did you not already know this fact? I wo…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 06:33 PM
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Great job! That’s a good first step! Next, you need to find something to fill the time and mental space that those videos occupied. Start reading books, work on projects, find other helpful/healthy content to watch. I like watching a lot of nature and historical documentaries, I follow some sports podcasts and psychologists, and most of my social media is full of funny/cute animal videos and cooking pages. Maybe start a new tv show, could be a light comedy if you just need entertainment. There w…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 06:17 PM
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Ok, good, that makes me really angry as well and we have every right to be angry at these dudes for manipulating other men and telling us what we’re supposed to be. We don’t want to be “providers”, we want to be equals, and that’s that. Now, what do you think will help you feel better whenever you notice that you are watching RP propaganda or someone talking about traditional values like it applies to everybody? What can you do in those moments you first realize a topic is triggering you?
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 05:55 PM
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Sorry I’m a little confused - so does the anger come from knowing these guys are lying to other men/boys the way they did to you, or does the anger come up because you believe what they are saying so you are angry at “what women want”? I think it’s important to separate these two and see which is affecting you the most. Once you find that out (the actual trigger), you can see where to go from there.
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 05:11 PM
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Those dudes are trying to make a quick buck by feeding on the insecurities and young and lonely men. Exactly as you says, telling the older guys they are more valuable than their women age counterparts while telling them it’s okay to chase naive 18 year olds. And then telling the lonely young dudes they don’t have any value until they are older with more money. They’re playing on these individuals emotions and rage. Nothing about it is actually trying to help any of those men, and nothing about …
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 04:03 PM
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I may be wrong, but it kind of sounds like you’re a bit lost and trying to find some kind of direction or philosophy to follow. I see it a lot in RP spaces where someone grew up with heavy religious influences and once they leave that mindset, they feel lost and feel the need to latch onto another ideology to tell them how to think about the world. If that is the case: maybe look into different types of actually academically accredited philosophies - see what the historical great minds think abo…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 03:49 PM
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Hmmm, you tell us. Logically, you know that many men and women like relationships with equal financial distribution and the “man provider” role is only for very traditional (usually religious) people. If you don’t want to be a provider, you logically know there are women out there who don’t want a “provider” because they appreciate their own financial independence and believe having two incomes is better than one (like my partner, who actually makes significantly more than me). So, since you kno…
/r/ExRedPill04/04/23 03:21 PM
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Honestly I would stay away from all RP types, especially after your experiences. If you like traditional values, find someone who has traditional values from a similar standpoint as you - maybe morals/religion/ethics/family influence. Don’t got for people who have those values BECAUSE of the redpill. They’re not coming from the right place. RP =/= traditional the same way isis =/= Islam. Hope that makes sense. Best of luck!
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 04:58 PM
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Gonna leave this comment here again to make sure you see: The age gap, the double standards. The red pill. I get you like this guy but like…..he’s not the most logical thinker and if he’s into RP at all, especially at his age, it’s a big red flag. Seek men in your Christian community. The red pill directly contradicts so much of the teachings of Christ. And he wants to do other sexual stuff because you want to wait?? This is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. This is not a God loving man. You don’t hav…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 04:29 PM
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Are you 12???
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 04:19 PM
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And by that logic he is saying he won’t be a loyal partner with a long marriage. But for some reason that’s a requirement for YOU to have. The age gap, the double standards. The red pill. I get you like this guy but like…..he’s not the most logical thinker and if he’s into RP at all, especially at his age, it’s a big red flag. Seek men in your Christian community. The red pill directly contradicts so much of the teachings of Christ. And he wants to do other sexual stuff because you want to wait?…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 04:12 PM
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My question is why did they decide to listen to this random man on YouTube who does steroids and has never studied health, nutrition, or kinesiology instead of their primary care doctor and teachers who have been saying physical exercise is important since the dawn of time.
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 04:00 PM
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I don’t know this man or anything about his ideas, but that kind of sounds like the non-pilled and totally healthy idea of equal reciprocation in a relationship (which looks different for every couple). Like he is doing a lot for her and she also does a lot for him back. So, is she “submitting”, or is she just being an equally caring partner in the terms they agreed to? I don’t know what his relationship looks like or what he defines as “submissive”, but I know that in relationships you often ge…
/r/ExRedPill31/03/23 03:55 PM
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By hookup, do you mean causal sex without the intent of having a relationship with this person? Sure, there’s nothing redpill about that. The RP part of hookups is usually manipulative tactics to get women to sleep with you under false pretenses. Plenty of men and women have respectful, mutually satisfying hookups with no ill intent. For example: you are a very stressed college student with a heavy work and internship/volunteering/extra curricular activists - you know you don’t have the time and…
/r/ExRedPill30/03/23 05:12 PM
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Overtime, you have LEARNED false ideas about women, how they think, and their intelligence. You have been taught that, as a man, you know better than women because they are XYZ. It’s going to take you time and lots of active practice to UNLEARN. You have to challenge the ideas you have built around why you don’t respect them in the first place. Then, you have to LEARN how to view women in a more realistic light. This means you also have to accept that all women are individual people who have dif…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/23 08:40 PM
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While older ones definitely exist (especially those burned by past relationships or divorce), I think most of the folks watching and engaging in RP content online are teenagers and early 20s. Makes sense since people at this age are the most susceptible to peer pressure, media influence, and just haven’t had a lot of life experience to know nuances in human behavior. Plus, younger folks are more likely to be shallow (they are going through hormone changes and becoming aware of their sexuality), …
/r/ExRedPill29/03/23 08:14 PM
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Do you not want to be a sweet and kind person? Would you prefer if a woman thinks you are unkind and bitter? Do you like sweet and kind women? Or are you only interested in “exciting”, unkind baddies or whatever? Dating in high school sucks and many men and women don’t date in this time period. That’s pretty normal and not at all unusual. I’m glad you were able to catch yourself slipping back into RP and did sone self-reflecting instead of going right back. That definitely shows progress! I thin…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/23 07:57 PM
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You seem to have a pretty good idea of what constitutes harassment. Manosphere circles aren’t good about looking at nuances of situations. For example: “complimenting a woman will get you fired!!!” A compliment like “that’s a funny sticker!” Or “woah cool sneakers!” is all fine and well but something like “you have gorgeous lips” or “that dress really shows off your figure” are more inappropriate. If you are good about analyzing the context of the situation and you refrain from talking about the…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/23 06:45 PM
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What specifically makes you nervous and anxious about talking to women? When you take a moment to think about it - realistically, what is the worse thing that can happen if you talk to a girl? Also you mentioned your primary goal is hooking up. You go out with your friends and see them go talk to women - do you ever go with them to join them? Do they help by being a wingman in those social situations? What are they doing that you feel you can’t do? Finally, being depressed because you are not ac…
/r/ExRedPill29/03/23 06:10 PM
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What are the rumination practices you try? What has helped the most from those that you have noticed? Spending so much time on these spaces is validating your worst fears. It’s digital self harm at this point. It’s like if someone with a spider phobia spent all their time in forums about people getting spider bites, spider hospitalization stats, constantly watching videos of spiders found in your area. Not exactly the same but I hope you understand the point I am trying to make that you are maki…
/r/ExRedPill28/03/23 12:52 AM
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What have you been doing lately to work on your OCD around this topic? Did you discuss this idea in therapy? I don’t specialize in OCD, but it would be worth discussing with your therapist if joining OLD will help or make your matters worse, especially with the suicidal ideation you’ve expressed. I can see it backfiring if you have a tendency to spiral (which kinda looks like you might from your post history).
/r/ExRedPill28/03/23 12:34 AM
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I was just pointing out that homeless men and women can get into relationships and many date each other, especially if they are in similar communities. My point is human connection goes beyond money and status. Most people do not have insane wealth or a “high status”, whatever that means to you, but they find love, connection, and support. Wasn’t talking about who YOU should date. I just want you to be more open minded about what people value and look for in a relationship. It’s not all about we…
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 05:34 PM
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I’ve known many homeless men in relationships. Maybe not the kind of relationships you are envisioning, but plenty met a mutual supportive partner in a similar situation/community. The need for human connection goes deeper than status and money.
/r/ExRedPill27/03/23 05:04 PM
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Congrats man, proud of you! You’re strong for being able to self-reflect and make changes in your life that not only helped you but also brought you closer to your loved ones. Sounds like you and your family really care about each other. Keep up the good work! I’m sure you have an exciting, bright future ahead!
/r/ExRedPill23/03/23 08:50 PM
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Thanks for sharing! I recall reading some of your experiences before in past comments. Very happy to hear that you got out of that environment and learned how to spot toxic people! I can definitely relate to the park about growing up with fake religious people; that was definitely a large topic during my therapy haha
/r/ExRedPill22/03/23 09:32 PM
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Yeah at this point we’re both very aware of media messaging/advertising and the psychology behind it, but it still creeps up from time to time if we’re not being cautious. I wish people in RP can come to a place to realize that the suffering they experience through internalizing messages from media is the same shit women have also been going through. It would be more productive to come together and see how damaging this kind of influence is, especially to impressionable teens/young adults. We ne…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/23 07:54 PM
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Happy to hear it, man! I’ve never actively consumed that content, but just all the RP messages on places like Reddit makes me feel demoralized. I’m pretty satisfied with where I am in life right now but RP will always tell you that you are not good enough or man enough or whatever tf. At this point when I hear anything from those dudes I think, “who the heck are you to be telling me about who I need to be or what makes me happy/successful?” My partner and I were talking about this and she said i…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/23 03:38 PM
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Taking care of your physical and mental health as well as your environment is positive for men, women, and children. Your primary doctor can tell you this. It’s not a “pill” concept, it’s about learning to take care of yourself because we are responsible for our own wellbeing. To see if it’s healthy or unhealthy, when you set little goals for yourself and accomplish them, ask yourself if it was helpful/healthy/positive or if it was damaging/unhelpful. Personal example: exercise is important to m…
/r/ExRedPill21/03/23 04:16 PM
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I’ve noticed that. Karma farming or intense mental health issues. There are people actively going through a psychosis episode with heavy delusions and paranoia yet we have no idea. There are dudes who legitimately hear voices of people talking shit about them constantly and when they go out and they believe it is reality. It’s so strange because we don’t know if we are talking to a 14 year old boy going through puberty and growing pains, a 30 year old who has a traumatic brain injury and can’t p…
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 10:52 PM
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Who even says this? What was the context, and why is it bothering you? Just sounds like a random hypothetical scenario like “what if we did a hunger games with people?” Or “who would survive a zombie apocalypse?”. I don’t think it’s supposed to be taken seriously. I’ve had friends say dumb stuff like “if I had the chance to fight X MMA fighter, I bet I would win!” Like sure Brandon from accounting, I’m sure you can fight a professional athlete who trains for this daily specifically for his caree…
/r/ExRedPill20/03/23 06:17 PM
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Sounds like a good question to discuss with your therapist. Generally, personality disorders like BPD stem from childhood, but current and ongoing stressors can exasperate the symptoms.
/r/ExRedPill19/03/23 10:31 PM
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It’s not an RP concept that you need an income. You need an income to support yourself for survival. You need money to pay the bills, to eat, to have a roof over your head, to be able to afford to do things you enjoy once in a while. This isn’t about dating, this is literally about being a functional member in society. Obviously, being a functioning adult who can hold a job is seen positively to both men and women because it shows maturity and responsibility. So yes, money is very important. You…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/23 04:13 PM
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Why do you feel you need to label yourself and your beliefs? Can you just focus on figuring out what Bittersteel1818 wants in life and who he wants to be? Do you value traditional values or more modern values? Do you want to be a primary breadwinner and provider to a family? Or do you want a more financially equal relationship? Are you religious? Do you want to advance your education? Do you want to travel? What do you want out of life aside from “a woman”? I think it’s insightful that you’ve fi…
/r/ExRedPill16/03/23 04:19 PM
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Many men and women have no issue with the woman making more in the relationship. This is how my relationship is currently and it’s working out great for us.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/23 02:33 PM
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They’re trying to advertise the subs, been seeing it everywhere
/r/ExRedPill14/03/23 03:15 PM
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Well, Bat Country and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas are great pieces of art with a lot of complex themes on life, death, addiction, love, mental illness, afterlife, hedonism, paranoia, and so much more. One thing they are not about is struggles in gender and dating. Growing up, that was my sisters favorite song (she also loved the book and movie) and eventually got a tattoo with a quote from the book. She relates to the song just as much as you but in different ways. That’s thing about art and …
/r/ExRedPill10/03/23 05:39 PM
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Dude, same. No wonder she’s been so handsy.
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 01:57 AM
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Lol got it. It’s your choice to stay oblivious, Sir Vader, but it might be helpful not to generalize about men and women in your comments, and state that it’s your personal view/opinion instead. Doesn’t make you a loser or anything, but then that makes it seem people like me and my friends don’t exist. People have different views and that’s okay, but that’s why we shouldn’t generalize about genders like that. We’re all complex and have had different experiences. Best of luck to you friend!
/r/ExRedPill09/03/23 01:48 AM
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I appreciate you explaining the cultural differences you’ve noticed. I’m sure it doesn’t play the only role, but I know it plays a really large role. The messages we hear growing up really do affect us psychologically for the better or worse and impact our view of the world. And then on top of that, it’s not just culture but specific upbringing (how your parents acted toward each other, what messages they told you growing up). There’s even so much cultural differences just in the west (thing con…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 09:15 PM
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Again, apologies if it sounded like bragging but I’ve found some people will dismiss me if I don’t include my personal experiences. What do you think of the last part? I’m curious what you think of the cultural aspect because if I remember correctly your culture does dating differently (arranged marriages). So, I’m wondering how that contributes to your views on women/relationships/sex. It seems very different than the typical views I hear and see where I live. Do you feel like RP concepts are m…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 05:06 PM
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Lmao I don’t think you understand how relationships work. And I don’t think you understand how emotions work. A marriage that is 80% about sex is doomed before it begins. Get your priorities straight, man. You sound like a teenage boy (maybe you are, in which case, you’ll understand that while sex is important it’s far from the most important aspect of a relationships ESPECIALLY a marriage). If you think having a relationship with another human being is equivalent to having a pet, you are in no …
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 04:32 PM
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Idk man, my partner was trying to get a quick one in this morning but I had to stop her because we were going to be late for work. It was still great just kissing/touching and I’m sure we’ll continue where we left off later when we’re home and settled. This isn’t out of the ordinary for us. Women have sex drives, they masturbate, they lust, they feel sexually frustrated, they have kinks (and so much variation just like men). The closer my partner and I have gotten, the better the sex has been an…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 04:22 PM
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Do you allow yourself the opportunity to get to know multiple people so that they can get to know you? No one knows if you’re a good person or not if you’re not getting to know people. “Selfish” people are more likely to be assertive and put themselves out there. People can be selfish AND also charming, social, and assertive - which are attractive traits. Plus, just like with being a good person, people won’t necessarily know someone is selfish without getting to know them well first. So, is it …
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:45 PM
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No, majority of men don’t have similar preferences. You are thinking too broadly. Obviously everyone wants a partner they feel like they get along well with, are compatible in major life values, and is attractive to you. All of this looks different to someone else and it all varies depending on the kind of life you want, your age, culture, etc. Some men want traditional, conservative women (like you) and some men don’t (this would be me and the men in my social circles and networks). Generally p…
/r/ExRedPill08/03/23 03:35 PM
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Thank you for sharing
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 04:03 PM
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Lack of social/emotional intelligence and life experience. It takes consistent effort to think outside yourself and “put yourself in someone else’s shoes”, and then it takes some life knowledge to do this more accurately. Without practicing this, people will project whatever they would do or think into someone else while discrediting the fact that everyone has had a different set of upbringings and experiences that shaped who they are and how they think (plus as humans most of us are constantly …
/r/ExRedPill07/03/23 12:26 AM
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Do your moral values align with someone who identifies with the RP? Is this the kind of person you want to build a future with? Pay attention to the way someone responds to conflict and to you expressing how you feel. He clearly isn’t bothered about how you feel. Whether I agreed with it or not, if my partner told me something made her feel uncomfortable, I wouldn’t absolutely care about that and we would talk about setting boundaries to help each other feel more comfortable. He is being selfish…
/r/ExRedPill04/03/23 06:24 PM
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To put it simply: they like the parts of religions that control and restrict women, and they despise the parts that require any self-control, self-reflection, and restrictions of their own freedoms. They don’t want to honor or serve anyone aside from themselves, but they want to be served like Gods by women. RP is mostly younger dudes trying to get laid or bitter that they’re not. It’s contradictory to the teachings in those religions. Another point I think is interesting to add: people who are …
/r/ExRedPill03/03/23 12:16 AM
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Okay, again, if you don’t understand the concept of humans growing and changing, I really can’t say anything else to you aside from “you’ll understand when you’re older”. Also your mind is stuck thinking in extremes, either someone is a wild party animal who sleeps with a different person every day and has threesomes or they’re a quiet nerd who is has never partied or touched another human before. A middle ground exists. Most people are just going through their goals - college, trade school, job…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/23 08:29 PM
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Those stats you’re throwing out really depends on where the data was collected and also you are just throwing out a random assumption about how long they’ve been together. Think about it this way: will the number of average age married differ in the US vs china? The answer is yes because of cultural norms and expectations. Will the number look different in Los Angeles Californian compared to White Oak, Texas? Absolutely because of the religious influence and expectations in Texas. People are als…
/r/ExRedPill02/03/23 07:47 PM
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Younger 20 year olds haven’t been known to make the wisest decisions because they themselves are still learning about the world, the people in it, and themselves. This is true for both men and women. People learn. People grow. People change. The priorities of a 21 year old are much different than the priorities of a 28 year old, generally. If everyone tried to get married as soon as they turned 20, divorce rates would skyrocket. If I married the women I thought I wanted to marry when I was in my…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/23 11:23 PM
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Men are capable of emotional connections the same way women are. Individual differences and socializations/upbringing impacts this of course. As a grown man, I cannot enter into a serious committed relationship with a woman unless I have a strong emotional connection (which is very different than simply physical attraction). So this isn’t so much a difference of the sexes, it seems like you personally have challenges with emotions and relating to people on that level. You’ve mentioned a similar …
/r/ExRedPill01/03/23 04:55 PM
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This has also been my experience. The doctors I work for are about an equal number of men and women, all great people who get along. The companies I work for have CEOs/presidents/DOOs that are a mix of men and women who are all incredibly intelligent and hard working. A coordinator once brought up Andrew Tate because she saw him in the news and no one knew who he was, convo about him ended in 1 minute because we’d rather talk about more interesting and useful topics. Same with my friends, it doe…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/23 04:32 PM
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I feel you are not understanding the part I described about compatibility. As I mentioned, things like grad school changes you permanently. It changes how you analyze the world around you, not just your knowledge on topics. I want my partner to be able to relate and understand me. Any graduate level degree would be more similar to my experience than someone without regardless of the major. This is important to me. You would understand this if it was your experience as well. I would be willing to…
/r/ExRedPill01/03/23 12:25 AM
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I’m a well educated man and I specifically screened for women who also have a higher education (at least grad school level or above). My educational and academic journey changed me and helped me grow into who I am and the values I hold. It’s quite important for me to be with a partner who has had a similar experience (like my current partner, who is actually has a higher degree and earns more money than me). This is VERY common amongst men in my social circles who have a similar education backgr…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/23 10:27 PM
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I disagree, I don’t think my dick/body/sexuality is worthless. I think it all has lots of worth.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/23 11:53 PM
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This post is over 6 months old and your comment doesn’t make sense as a response to mine. You good?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/23 11:05 PM
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Two things helped me the most: A) constant open communication. My partner and I often have talks, at least once a month, about how we’re feeling in the relationship, what we appreciate about each other, what we would maybe like to see more of. We talk about our future together and the commitment we have to each other. We have established boundaries around expectations with the opposite gender and we revisit and discuss those boundaries, why they’re important, and what makes us feel safe. We are …
/r/ExRedPill22/02/23 06:19 PM
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You pretty much nailed it. Confirmation bias. If you go on a post titled “men, tell me about when you tired opening up to a woman and she reacted negatively” vs “men, tell us about the women in your life who you’ve been able to open up to”, you’d get wildly different results because of the type of different people responding. Humans like to be validated in their experiences and feel a sense of community, so they want to find other who have shared their experiences and vent. At the end of the day…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/23 05:42 PM
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Those who identify as incels (I’m not talking about virgins who haven’t had sex yet, I’m talking those who identify with the term and online community), are self-described outcasts. By adopting the label, they have found a group to be apart of, somewhere they “belong”, somewhere that “understands” them. Many of them lack real friends and social support, so with this label they are part of a community, even if that community is dark and damaging. This is also why it’s easy for these lonely indivi…
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 09:53 PM
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It’s understandable you don’t want to change your job or move. Those are two very big and more extreme changes. What are some smaller, more feasible and realistic changes you can make to change your repetitive routine and make your life more meaningful to you? Maybe something you can do on a weekend that won’t interfere with work?
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 09:39 PM
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“…I can’t meet women within my comfort zone. I’ve been stuck in a daily routine for years”. This is is right here. It’s time for a change and it’s time to step out of your comfort zone. Change is difficult and can be scary, but it’s necessary to grow and to meet your goals. We can’t change the past but we do have control of the future. You say you want to change, but you think it’ll be a “wasted effort”, how do you know that? How is change and improvement ever a waste? If anything, it’ll just ad…
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 06:20 PM
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We don’t know what available in your area. Have you done any research to see what’s even available to you? Make a big list of all the different things available in your area that seem a little intriguing, write their dates/times of meeting, and try our the ones you’re most interested in that seem the most feasible. KEEP YOUR PURPOSE IN MIND: Remember you are going to understand how organic connections with people are made, you are going to be practicing your conversation skills with people, and …
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 06:07 PM
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Honestly from my time oh Reddit, it seems like so many people don’t understand what feminism is and don’t understand feminist theory. Many folks who learn about feminism online think feminism is an extremist movement geared towards lifting women up and putting men down (think the “men are trash” folks on twitter or whatever). They also believe feminism is the other side of the patriarchy or of RP. If you learn about and study feminism through academic, credible sources, it becomes obvious that f…
/r/ExRedPill21/02/23 04:27 PM
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Okay, glad you know what you want. You and I are two very different people. Most of the people I associate with value education and maturity more than youth and makeup for their partners, but we’re also grown men with our own careers and degrees in higher education so a similar partner is more compatible.
/r/ExRedPill20/02/23 07:28 PM
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Hey man, take a break. Are you in school or anything? Working? Have any goals? Hobbies? I think it would do your mental health some good to stop obsessing over something that is so different for every human. If you put this much focus into a goal you have that would better your life, you’d be much happier than posting on Reddit all the time with gender theories. Sorry if I come off as a dick. I just don’t get what you’re getting out of this because youre ignoring most of what everyone here is sa…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 11:05 PM
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I’m glad to hear that! From what I’ve seen from your comments, while you don’t relate to that kind of of relationship, you seem to be a pretty intelligent guy and a contributing member of society with real world experience. I feel like those with power fantasies usually feel like they have zero power or control of their own lives and no autonomy of their own - hence the escapism deep into the internet/manosphere. That’s one of my theories. What do you think?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 08:25 PM
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Have you asked her for help kindly and mentioned you would appreciate it because you’re tired/busy/xyz? If so, what did she say? People aren’t mind readers. She probably doesn’t know you feel this way. And if you’re communicated that and she still doesn’t care then why not break up with her? People all have different expectations in relationships because we were all raised differently and have had different experiences. Maybe she doesn’t know you want help cooking and cleaning in YOUR home becau…
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 06:24 PM
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I mean, if they’re just women not advertising pornography, you shouldn’t just ask for nudes. They’re not porn stars. They’re not going to create free content for you if they don’t even really know you. If you want nudes from random women, ask people with OF or something like that. Women just living their everyday lives aren’t just there for your sexual pleasure. Again, don’t conflate reality with porn.
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 03:13 AM
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Same thing as what? And context matters - who are you trying to get nudes from? What social media? Can you please elaborate more?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/23 12:25 AM
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Honestly it’s probably more important to look for someone who is similar to your views on sex and what it means to you (as another commenter pointed out). Especially in the Christian community, this would probably be expected and more common. You’d probably be best with someone who is pretty similar to you, which is very common at your age. There’s a difference between having a preference and shaming others who don’t fit that preference (if there is nothing ethically wrong with the preference of…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 11:43 PM
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Exactly. Confirmation bias and groupthink is one of the biggest issues with these online communities and it destroys critical thinking.
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 11:07 PM
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It’s not completely wrong, but the reasons you wrote about are pretty wrong. The only thing RP has right is that it is a positive thing to improve yourself. Any doctor will tell you that you should be mindful oh getting enough physical exercise, eating healthy, keeping your body well, but there’s no need for a 6 pack and huge muscles. It is also positive to work on goals for yourself, find a way to be financially independent with education/career, but there’s no need to be sone super wealthy mil…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 10:56 PM
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If it’s impacting your life and mental health, please stay off those RP/manosphere spaces. Heck, maybe stay off Reddit for a while. The same few people and groups are spreading that shit as much as possible. They want to dehumanize women and make them feel bad (like themselves). A cult tactic is to repeat the same phrases and messages as much as possible so that people hearing/reading it will think it is more prevalent and based in reality than it really is. Outside Reddit/social media, I don’t …
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 09:17 PM
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This is it OP. Read what Exis007 said carefully. Those dudes are telling on themselves. We are not all Genghis Khan trying to spread our seed all Willy nilly to create an empire of ourselves. I feel like that’s an insecure power fantasy from men who don’t really understand relationships and love based on mutual respect, trust, and partnership. And they see having lots of partners as clout because of dumb societal messaging that is spread to teen boys, so why settle down if that’s not the “cool” …
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 09:06 PM
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Your question is asking why there is a difference, but the meta analysis you posted are saying (like in your title) that there isn’t much of a difference: “Conclusion To conclude, our review into gender differences in loneliness covered 39 years of research, including samples with various socioeconomic, ethnic minority/majority, and clinical status from 45 countries. Overall, we did not find strong evidence for gender differences in loneliness, suggesting that males and females are more alike th…
/r/ExRedPill16/02/23 08:32 PM
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Advertise your content elsewhere.
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 08:06 PM
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Just like men, women vary. I’ve had buddies who were only interested in sex in established relationships and I’ve known women who masturbate more than a teenage boy. My current partner (and a couple before) had sex drives higher than mine. They just tended to masturbate more than actually going out to seek hookups because it’s safer, easier, and masturbating guarantees an orgasm unlike a random hookup with a stranger. If they are in an established relationship with a partner they trust, then the…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 05:15 PM
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See my comment above. This very much does exist in popular tourism areas (Jamaica is a known spot for this).
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 04:57 PM
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In certain areas popular for tourism, like Jamaica, it is common knowledge that there are attractive men who seek to give wealthy ladies on vacation a boyfriend/escort experience with the transactional understanding that she will spend a lot on him, buy him dinners, drinks, clothes, etc. From all your comments, it seem that your knowledge in female sexuality if very limited. You are looking at it ONLY through the lens of how men consume porn and seek casual hookups. You are not considering the c…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 04:56 PM
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Depends, do you want to see women as individual human beings with differences from one another? It seems you think all women behave the same way and are interested in the same topics. Are ALL these women really not interesting at all, or are you just not learning anything about them because you’re so focused on sex? If you just want to have casual sex, conversation skills and some chemistry is still important in my experience. People don’t generally like being used as a sex hole. What is she goi…
/r/ExRedPill15/02/23 04:43 PM
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The Matrix is one of my favorite films and I love discussing the philosophy of it and it’s themes. RP really bastardized terms from the movie, and I don’t think anyone in RP actually understands the many complex themes and philosophies presented in the film. Many followers are probably too young to have seen the movie, kinda makes me feel like a dinosaur lol
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 08:53 PM
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They are influencers for men and want your money. I would advise against wasting your money on them. They cannot answer specific questions because they are not mental health specialists nor do they have any knowledge in different cultural aspects that can affect dating (for example, dating in India or Russia is much different than dating in France, Germany or the US). It’s a scam.
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 08:45 PM
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First, you need to understand that is what the redpill wants you to feel like because that will keep you coming back to their content. If you feel like you’re not good enough (by their standards) then you will keep seeking out their messages on how to be good enough (which is pretty ridiculous and quite unhealthy). Women get the same shit from influencers. Second, you need to discover the things about yourself that you are proud of and like about yourself while avoiding RP content. People who ar…
/r/ExRedPill14/02/23 05:03 PM
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Bad faith post trying to support RP. Why are you writing “deconstruction RP claims” and then immediate write the RP claim that you are arguing FOR? I will tell you again for the millionth time: this is not a debate sub.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 09:07 PM
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Your points A, B, and C are not factual. They are merely redpill talking points. You keep posting and making comments in bad faith. This is not a debate sub. This is not purplepill debate. What are you trying to get out of posting and commenting on this sub so much?
/r/ExRedPill13/02/23 09:05 PM
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I’d say this is more common in younger folks, both men and women, because they usually haven’t figured it out yet. That was the case for me. And it takes some folks longer than others. I don’t think it’s a gender thing. At this point, both my partner and I know exactly what we want.
/r/ExRedPill11/02/23 12:53 AM
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Well, meeting a total stranger from online is potentially dangerous, especially for young women. If they can meet people organically in person, that would probably be the preferred option. There are literally dudes in the news who have murdered their OLD dates. An 18 year old girl is way less likely to take this risk compared to an 18 year old boy who is hoping to get laid. More men than women use the apps primarily for trying to hook up. Many women are aware of this and know a lot of guys will …
/r/ExRedPill07/02/23 10:10 PM
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Okay, we’re average folks, not Hollywood actors and models. Do you expect your partner to look like a Margot Robbie or Scarlett Johansson? Or your favorite porn star? Sane people understand that Hollywood beauty standards are not expected for love and healthy relationships. Are you trying to date models or something? If so, then yeah, you’d probably need to look like a model yourself due to lifestyle compatibilities. Otherwise, it’s ridiculous to hold yourself to the same standards as Hollywood.…
/r/ExRedPill07/02/23 07:02 PM
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Who?
/r/ExRedPill06/02/23 05:52 PM
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Thanks for sharing and being open, it gives me a better picture of your situation and what’s going on at home. Here are a few things that I think might be helpful: 1) obviously therapy is the number one thing if you’re are having issues this severe with body image and it is making you this upset. There’s a lot going on that I think you need to process in terms of what your dad has said, what those things mean to you, how it’s affecting you and your relationship with the rest of the family, and t…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 09:03 PM
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What do you mean when it comes to question? And I’m curious what you mean by your mom has restricted him talking about it - why did she restrict him? And then why do you bring it up if you know it upsets you?
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:42 PM
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Stay off places in social media that cause you more harm then they are helpful for you. Social media is full of people on all kinds of walks of life and ages; there are 16 year old girls on Twitter saying stuff about feminism, mental health, and body positivity that they themselves don’t fully understand yet because many haven’t had the proper education and are just going off what they see online and on tik tok or whatever. Also, there have always been people who chase fame and attention in one …
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:32 PM
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So from what I am observing, your dad has put these ideals into your mind, but for some reason you are projecting these super fit ideals onto what all women want? Are you trying to impress dad or a specific woman? Does he still say these things to you? Do you still have contact with him/live with him? Is he a big gym nut? Does he see you eat?
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:19 PM
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The is nothing wrong with self improvement. Self improvement is great for every man, woman, and child. Your typical every day non-pilled doctor will tell you that paying attention to you physical and mental health is important. This isn’t new advice. HOWEVER, redpill disguises itself as “self-improvement”, but does not follow any scientific, medical, or psychological advice on real physical and mental health improvement. They will tell you to hit the gym to gain muscle meanwhile they are doing s…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 07:10 PM
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Guys who say that are probably living in a fantasy of being rich and “high status”, thinking about sleeping with endless models and being Leo D. They were probably unlucky with women all their life and are hoping things will change for the better and “all those young, hot women who rejected me before will be begging to be with me when I’m rich and successful!” At least that’s what it seems like reppill bullshit pushes. Its a fantasy of escapism. I see a lot of guys with that mindset who are just…
/r/ExRedPill03/02/23 06:21 PM
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Sex for physical pleasure only on a monogamous relationship is not considered being loyal. If a women has sex with someone because for the emotional connection reasons you stated, she can still choose to not tell her husband or divorce him if she is staying together for the kids or if she sees him as only a provider. According to your logic, if she still keeps her responsibilities to the kids and household, she is still being loyal. Many women can compartmentalize sex as well and many men can’t.…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 10:32 PM
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People of all kinds of different attractive levels are happily dating and married all over. Plus, attractive is subjective —one man’s trash is another man’s treasure type deal, so same for women. So, what else can it be? How are you with social interactions? How do you even meet women or ask them out? How are you with making friends/connections in general? How often do you hang around social settings? Are you comfortable carrying out non-sexual/romantic conversations with women? Are there any pa…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 09:25 PM
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A man who secretly cheats is still considered “high value” to you? What the fuck dude lmao, do you have any morals or integrity? Do you believe men are capable of loving their partners and can choose to respect them even when they’re not around? You sound awful bro.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 08:17 PM
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Yes, we definitely do value different things (we as in you and I). So all that redpill nonsense is irrelevant to my life, my relationship, and how I value my partner (and past partners). Not here to debate RP any longer, that’s not what this sub is for. Plus it seems we’re all “exceptions to the rule” here anyway, so idk what you’re getting out of this. Best of luck to you.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 05:12 PM
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Must be even more baffling from your perspective! Yeah seems like the people in his environment think it’s cool or something to date young women. I used to have coworkers like that and they were always the worst kind of people I would never want any of my friends or family to date (and they’ve all been fired). He sounds like he just doesn’t interact with a whole lot of women and spends his time in RP spaces. Just posts to argue. Idk maybe the trolling fulfills him in ways his transactional relat…
/r/ExRedPill02/02/23 12:41 AM
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Some of them instruct you to lie down and some to sit down, but then you need to follow the mediation as it makes you flex and focus on different parts of your body. It helps with grounding you when stressed and feeling anxious. Try it out. If you hate it, you never have to do it again. Nothing lost except like 10-20 mins. If you like it, some psychologists recommend to practice it once a day like a routine. Practicing it before bed every night has shown improvement in insomnia for some people.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:11 PM
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Go be a troll elsewhere. You are in the wrong subreddit.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:08 PM
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Where in my comments did I write that? Everything I said was quite the opposite of just lying down. I guess you just posted here to feel better like you said, guess you’re not actually looking for feedback. I’ll back off.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 09:01 PM
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See the last part I added about a progressive muscle relaxation.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:54 PM
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Sorry man, sounds like a stressful time. What’s something immediate you can do that might help you feel a little better from the intense emotions? Looks like venting on here helps you feel a little better? What else can you do? When I’m dealing with really intense emotions that feel horrible, here are some things I’ve found that help me: putting on one of my favorite music albums or a song that cheers me up, taking a really cold or really hot shower, a quick walk or jog around the block, watchin…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 08:49 PM
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I don’t know where all these statistics are coming from. I did not conduct these studies. What did the authors of the study conclude is the reason for these? At the end of every scientific journal article, the researchers explain their finding and what the implications are. Can you show me what they wrote so we can be better informed in this discussion? I know in general from my educated peers, less people are choosing to get married and more people are choosing to just be forever partners witho…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 07:57 PM
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How/why? Edit: nvm, I see you are just trying to advertise that page through your comment history. Following the footsteps of daddy Tate or something.
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 07:36 PM
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Life isn’t easy for most people, so welcome to the club! We’re can’t all be born as model billionaires from privileged families. And that’s okay. There’s still plenty of happiness to be had. If you want happiness, why not focus on doing some stuff for a while that might make you feel happy and good about yourself? I don’t workout at the gym, but I like to go jogging when I can because it makes me feel good. My heart and body feels healthier, I can see my improvement in the distance I can go with…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 07:34 PM
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But all those different variables are more important to me than age. Just because you value youth above all else and you prefer transactional relationships with women who only want you for what you can provide for them doesn’t mean every other man is like that. It’s okay that you prefer that transactional type of relationship, but I prefer a different kind of relationship built more on equality and mutual love. Don’t disrespect my personal preferences like that please. You are not the only man i…
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 06:05 PM
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There’s a difference between saying “I’m going to get a masters in psychology and be a successful therapist”and “I’m going to the worlds top psychologist and be too 1% of income earners”. The scenario we are taking is totally probable in my area. I wouldn’t have gotten a degree in something that I can’t support myself with after. I did the research and talked to many different people in different areas in the field both in my university and through colleagues. I’m passionate about what I do, so …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:51 PM
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Neither, why are those my only two choices? I would prefer someone closer to my age and with similar experiences. The 25 year old hasn’t experienced enough and the 45 year old who has kids and divorces is at a different life journey. I also don’t want kids so that would rule out the 45 year old and also the 25 year old because I would assume she wants kids or isn’t sure about it yet, which is also a deal breaker for me. Do you see how ridiculous it is to put things in such black and white terms …
/r/ExRedPill01/02/23 03:41 PM
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Genuine question: are you trying to get out of the redpill mindset or are you trying to argue for it? It honestly seems you are just trying to paint women as bad as possible without considering so many relevant factors. This isn’t the purple pill debate sub.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 10:47 PM
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Not necessarily, especially not for marriage. This just sounds like a guy who is insecure about his “status” and is hoping to land a hot, young wife magically when he is older simply because he makes more money. If you want a sugar baby, I guess you can go that route. A lot of the guys in my social circles, including myself, have worked our asses off for our educations and careers and dedicated many years of our lives to our goals. We prefer partners who have had a similar life journey and simil…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 10:39 PM
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This has been changing pretty dramatically recently since more women are pursuing higher education and making more money. My partner and I are an example of this (and it’s quite common where I live). She makes significantly more than me, and if one of us had to be a stay at home parent, it would be me. Most people who are hard workers respect other people who are also hard workers. It’s not so much about the actual number of income as long as you can support yourself.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 09:52 PM
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Not trying to debate your google results. My only point is that you are limiting yourself by not understanding the earning potential of those fields and it varies depending on the area. People don’t generally go into psychology with the mindset of stopping at a BA or BS. In most places, you cannot even practice psychology without at least a masters and a license. Plus, I live in a city and state where psychologist are in high demand and my friends with psychology MAs are able to charge as much a…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 05:53 PM
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Lol sir, a licensed psychologist does not make $19 an hour, but I guess your uninformed google search is more accurate than people’s many years in the field. I applaud your confidence though.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:47 PM
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Statistics are a science/math and can be easily skewed and misinterpreted to those unfamiliar with how to conduct it and design valid studies. I can say 100% of men like cats. If you look at how I got that statistic, I was by surveying my co-worker and I who are in the office. So, it is true that 100% of men that were surveyed in my office this morning like cats. HOWEVER, this statistic would not be relevant or generalizable to the rest of the population. So now when you see these stats, you hav…
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:32 PM
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Have you done research on all the different jobs you can have in those fields and how much they can make? Just in my academic and career networks alone, most of the clinical psychologists I know make over 3 figures and a handful I’ve worked with make surgeon level money. Don’t make assumptions about fields you haven’t been in and don’t know much about. You are limiting yourself and your own knowledge.
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:17 PM
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Bless you and your patience
/r/ExRedPill31/01/23 03:08 PM
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For your own good and sake of your sanity, avoid those spaces and don’t engage. That sounds closer to the angry incel community than Redpill. No use wasting your time and energy talking to trolls.
/r/ExRedPill28/01/23 03:27 AM
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No idea who that is. If you want to learn about men, get to know some of the guys in your life and women who have good relationships with the men in their lives. Men, just like women, are all individuals with their own individual values and goals. Maybe don’t get your information from conspiracy theorists or the kind of stuff those algorithms lead you to. It’ll lead you to the worst of the worst ideas about either gender.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 06:20 PM
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Don’t even get me started on calves. It’s the sign of a true harlot with zero moral standing.
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 04:16 PM
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While I appreciate Jane Austen and especially Pride and Prejudice, let’s not forget that one of the main themes of her writing is how women are forced to play along with the very restrictive and traditional standards at the time. Women are supposed to be married off to wealthy suitors to better the family status/wealth. It has great themes, but let’s not go back to the 18th century of virtue where showing too much ankle is risqué and men have to go off to war to be valuable. Edit: just wanted to…
/r/ExRedPill27/01/23 03:43 PM
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I think the issue here is the person being socially awkward (usually due to anxiety, deep insecurity, unpracticed social skills, or other mental health stuff), not the gender. I grew up pretty socially anxious but I’ve always understood that a healthy relationship requires more than just me being physically attracted to them even when I wasn’t able to get into any relationships. I guess I was lucky to see examples of healthy relationships through some relatives and family friends (my uncle and a…
/r/ExRedPill26/01/23 10:54 PM
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It’s important to remember that the dudes posting on there are lashing out of hurt and want to find a community of men who feel similar. You can go to some toxic subreddits and see women saying “men are trash” “all men are emotionless sex addicts” “men are only worth what they can provide” but I understand that only applies to a small subset of angry/hurt women online and it does not apply to how I view most women in general. I’m sure you are not like those women, so same for the other way aroun…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 08:27 PM
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People are envious of things depending on what that thing means to them. Would it be nice to be extremely wealthy? Of course, but I don’t necessarily feel a deep envy, just a passing “oh that would be nice”. But at the end of the day, I’m happy with the career I’ve built for myself and the resources that I have. I feel a sense of pride and accomplishment for the things I have worked in to have in my life, especially as someone who grew up as a first generation immigrant with not much to start of…
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 07:18 PM
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Yikes, so many comments on that post are people the post writer is talking about, and dudes missing the point and thinking he’s only talking about working on physical appearance.
/r/ExRedPill25/01/23 04:22 PM
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No, no you can’t just basically tell from an online profile. The people posting this stuff are trying to get as many shares and comments as possible. You posting this here proves it. I had never seen this women before in my life and now we are all her audience. If some nice women just sat there looking through profiles going “he’s cute and seems like we’d get along”, “I like his humor” “cool, similar interests and hobbies”. No one would share that. That’s not fun or exciting or out of the norm. …
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 02:34 AM
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Do you really think MOST women are THAT judgmental? I wouldn’t want to date someone like that. Problem solved. Bullet dodged. She’s some Internet personality (or trying to be? Idk her), not my type. Are you trying to date this individual?
/r/ExRedPill21/01/23 02:00 AM
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Definitely agreed. Extremist leaders know that their best bet to indoctrinating people is by getting them while they are still young and don’t have experience to counterbalance what they are saying. It’s extremely predatory. Just in the US I’m noticing more and more neo-nazi/white supremacist ideologies popping up in online spaces that are mostly full of young, impressionable dudes who are angry, lonely, and looking for an answer to their problems. I doubt it’s a coincidence. It’s the perfect ti…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 09:42 PM
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Mix of online subcultures encouraging one another and instant gratification/want easy money mindset? Also, I feel RP draws in folks who are chronically online/at home, so they’re probably more prone to investing in online financial opportunities rather seeking opportunities outside. That’s my guess.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 08:37 PM
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You aren’t factoring people who are together because they love one another and feel they are compatible as life partners so they actively choose to be committed to one another. Am I attracted to women who are better looking than my partner? Yes. Is she attracted to men who are better looking than me? Yes. Would we cheat on one another for that person? No, because we love each other and have a built a life together that is full of trust, respect, and open communication. If someone really values s…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 08:30 PM
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Very “small loan of one million dollars” vibe. They’re not actual business/marketing professors, so they can’t teach business and marketing. Their business and marketing is a grift, and I imagine they don’t want to share that information with the people they are making money off of. It’s like physical trainers who tell you that you can look like them with their workout plan leaving out the fact that they use steroids and have a personal dietician/chef.
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 08:10 PM
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You’re correct, by the time I discovered what RP even was, I was already in my late 20s so I was just able to look at my past experiences in life and the experiences of all my family, friends, coworkers, classmates which contradict a lot of RP. My education was also in the social sciences/mental health field so a lot of RP rhetoric just sounds off to me beyond “improve yourself”, which is something I’ve tried to live by for most my life anyway. Does that matter or change the credibility of my co…
/r/ExRedPill19/01/23 07:56 PM
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Ok, so again, what kind of improvement spaces are you talking about? What would this look like?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 09:24 PM
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What “male improvement spaces” are you taking about that is now criticized by society? What would this space look like for men? Plenty of spaces exist if you are looking to make some new friends with men. There doesn’t have to be a sign on the door that says “MEN ONLY. GIRLS WITH COOTIES STAY OUT.”
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 07:47 PM
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Ok, observing your thoughts and understanding where they are coming from is helpful (but also be mindful that our thoughts aren’t always facts and often they are muddled with emotions driving the thought). Be weary of stoicism though because having a good grasp on your feelings and expressing them appropriately is important for mental health, but often RP encourages ignoring our emotions completely and often discouraged any vulnerability (which is needed to have authentic connections with other …
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 07:41 PM
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Exercise, a nutritious diet, and career goals are basic adulting 101, I don’t see why anyone needs to follow RP for that advice especially when the info is not coming from a certified nutritionists, physical trainers, and business/marketing professors. What does RP say about mental health? I thought it just tells you to stuff your feelings down and act like an emotionless machine which is the opposite of what mental health professionals recommend. Or are you understanding it differently?
/r/ExRedPill18/01/23 05:05 PM
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Well if you have good social, conversational, and listening skills, it’s going to be easier to meet and connect with people in general. The poster here fears texting women in general so he probably sees this as easy and low risk for himself compared to the alternatives. That sounds like an exhausting waste of time to me, but if that’s what he wants to spend his time on this Earth doing then all power to him.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 06:19 PM
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The people I know who are seeking to hookup with strangers meet dates through tindr or go to bars. Which tends to consist of other people who are looking for the same thing. When you add someone on social media, you have no idea if they are even looking to date, like hookups, are willing to meet up with a stranger, all sorts of variables. My buddies and I are also mostly in our 30s, so sliding into someone’s DMs wasn’t as much of a thing unless you met them somewhere or they share a mutual frien…
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 06:05 PM
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There are definitely folks like that. Could also be young dudes with a lot of social anxiety who see this as the easiest, low risk way to talk to a women. In that case, maybe it is good practice but it also means there’s a really high risk of absolutely nothing happening and the conversation going south because you are a stranger on the internet.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 05:47 PM
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Agreed, and makes sense. This process seems so impersonal and cold. From her perspective, a random guy added her because he saw her profile and thought she was hot. If she is advertising her snap/insta where strangers can find her, she’s most likely looking for followers to advertise her page for whatever reason. Also, many women conclude that a random dude that adds her on snap because she’s hot is also just adding a bunch of other random hot women and sliding into all of their DMs. That’s not …
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 05:04 PM
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I don’t know, I personally don’t DM random people I don’t know and have never talked to on social media. I don’t know what this would accomplish because personally I haven’t known any women who meet up with strangers who added them on Snapchat/insta, but I’m probably older than your generation so idk what the kids are doing nowadays.
/r/ExRedPill13/01/23 03:26 PM
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Plus, low income people are more likely to get married/move in together for financial benefits. Tax breaks, healthy insurance, splitting rent/bills. It’s not a surprise that if people who are low income naively rushed into a marriage for financial reasons will be more likely to divorce. And like the other commenter said, money can give you access to tools to help repair your relationship (couples therapy, vacations, more time off to have together away from kids, hiring services for chores to all…
/r/ExRedPill12/01/23 11:22 PM
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Well that’s about the strangest thing I’ve heard. I don’t know how your friends expect anything to happen in government/politics if they are uncomfortable with men as allies in protests and identifying as feminist. And feminism isn’t a culture or something like that, it’s a socio-political ideology. You can’t appropriate an ideology you follow and are a member of. I don’t think they know what that means.
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 07:17 PM
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People in general could be terrible, gender doesn’t matter. And sometimes people do stupid or terrible things and then they are able to learn and change their ways. I don’t think men or women “allow” each other to be terrible. It’s just a matter of having your boundaries, and a lot of people are not good at recognizing and setting boundaries, especially those who are younger and less experienced in life, and then there are people who like to push boundaries and cross lines regardless of what the…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 07:11 PM
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What are you hoping to accomplish by talking to her and telling her these things? I agree that it sounds like nothing good can come from seeing her. And “getting some” from someone who has been harmful to you isn’t positive in my eyes either. Sex isn’t a resource you gain and collect. It’s a shared activity between two people, so you would be engaging in a physically and emotionally intimate activity with someone who does not have good intentions towards you. That’s how abusive cycles continue. …
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 07:02 PM
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That sounds like a smart plan. One of my closest buddies just reached 7 years. He loves AA, and always recommends people find a sponsor there and do the step work. It builds a great fellowship too. I’ve heard meetings specifically for men tend to have older/more mature dudes and it’s a better spot for finding sponsors. Mixed gendered meetings can be a hit or miss, a lot of single folks use it as a dating opportunity which could be fun if that’s what you’re looking for, but a lot of people in the…
/r/ExRedPill11/01/23 01:21 AM
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A) what does this have to do with this post about identifying as a feminist? B) I’m confused, are you saying some men get to treat women like sex toys while some men don’t? I’m confused, where is this coming from? Who are these men? Who are these women? I can’t tell if this is something you want or think is immoral. Your wording seemed contradictory.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 11:05 PM
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A socio-political ideology is not gendered. If a cis-man agrees with feminist ideologies and issues (like contraception rights and equal wages, equal maternity AND paternity leave) he is a feminist. Feminism isn’t angry women online saying “all men are trash”. Feminism is in the laws and policies that gave women the right to vote and work. This wouldn’t be possible if men feminists did not exist.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 10:59 PM
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Definitely, I feel like that’s how they get so many people. Improving in yourself, setting goals, and being mindful of your overall diet and exercise habits are key positive things for everyone, man, woman, an child. So they get you with that and then add in random points about the worst kind of women you can meet (like your ex it sounds like). Like yes, there are women who value money and status, those are often shallow gold diggers and I wouldn’t want to date them anyway, so why get all huffy …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 10:40 PM
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Not sure if this is helpful or answers the question, but I never got into red pill because it just doesn’t align with the reality I see all around me in the real world. To be fair, I didn’t hear about TRP until I was already in my late 20s, so I was just able to look at the life experiences of all my friends, family, past and present coworkers, cohort members at school and understand “well this RP shit isn’t what healthy relationships are made of”. My education is also in the social sciences so …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 10:22 PM
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I agree, it is depressing. I know most people get out of that mind set as they just grow up and gain more life experience/human interactions. Like as a grown functioning adult with life responsibilities and obligations, I see these people and think “ok, you’re catering your content to teens and insecure young adults, what is your angle here?” Education and self-reflection definitely helps too because you learn to consume sources critically and see where your thoughts are faulty/based on emotions…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 09:59 PM
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I don’t know her but it sounds like she is someone who is trying to make money off of viewers who enjoy content discussing dating/gender differences/RP theories. These topics have a certain following online and those who create content for it are expecting some kind of revenue from it. It’s a business to those people and a big part of it is marketing and advertising. If you want to know more about her intentions, look at her credentials. Has she actually studied psychology, sociology, and human …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 08:51 PM
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You don’t need to apologize for your feelings. They are your feelings and it’s good that you are trying to understand them and where they are coming from. Also, please please please understand that not having a partner or any romantic/sexual experience at your age is COMPLETELY NORMAL. It’s true for women as well. You need to be able to acknowledge that all your info is from online where people like to spread the most shocking/taboo stuff. Normal, average, everyday things don’t get reposted and …
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 07:52 PM
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I know a lot of women would be flattered with you being nervous for a first date, especially if you add something like “you seem really awesome and you’re really pretty”. She’s probably feeling equally nervous. Women have emotions and insecurities just like us, especially in first dates. But if you want to seen mechanical and hide the emotions you’re feeling, then it’s going to be more difficult actually connecting with people and they might interpret that as “he doesn’t like me” or “he seems st…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 07:11 PM
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Have you ever tried owning it? Like “yeah, I’m a little nervous right now because it’s our first date” or “because this is my first time out in a while” or whatever the situation is? There’s nothing wrong with being nervous about a new experience. It’s good you are paying attention to body language. Taking slow, deep breaths can help your body regulate itself too if you feel your heart racing. Along with intentional movements like making the purposeful effort to use your hands in conversation or…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 06:52 PM
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You’re not doing anything wrong or offense, I appreciate you explaining your mindset and where those thoughts come from. I think discussions like ours can be helpful! A couple things to keep in mind: people on the internet can be cruel, are hiding behind anonymity, and often the most hurt/immature voices are the loudest. Random women on the internet are not the gatekeeper of who does and doesn’t deserve love. I think as humans, we all deserve love BUT that does not mean love only through a roman…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 06:40 PM
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What other people and what places? What was the context? If you don’t mind, please be specific. It’s important to understand where these messages are coming from and from whom because even though no one has told you this directly, you are still internalizing it as if it is true for you.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/23 04:34 PM
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Who has told you or other people they don’t deserve love? What people said this and in what context?
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 11:04 PM
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I identify as a feminist because that aligns with a my socio-political ideologies and the views I support. If someone agrees with republican policies and therefore identifies as a republican, it’s not really weird or attention seeking to call yourself a republican. It just describes what their political ideology is. I don’t go around bringing it up randomly in conversations and saying it out of context. But if asked. I have no issue acknowledging I’m a feminist. My partner sees my feminist ideol…
/r/ExRedPill09/01/23 10:53 PM
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Welcome, friend. Glad you are able to see through the grifting these dudes do. Marketing is really effective when the seller of the product plays on the insecurities of the consumers and then offers a solution to those insecurities: their product. It’s especially prevalent in the fitness, fashion, and beauty/makeup industry. If we all feel inadequate and ugly, then they can sell us the products they claim will help. Those dudes you mentioned are literal influencers, it’s just branded differently…
/r/ExRedPill06/01/23 07:36 PM
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From what I’ve read and experienced, there are more health benefits to masturbating than abstaining from it. It can be a good stress relief. I feel like it could be a problem if you’re doing to the point where it’s getting in the way of your life’s responsibilities and social life or you’re causing physical damage to yourself. In that case, best to decrease but not necessarily cut it off. What are you hoping to gain from nofap?
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 03:26 AM
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What is supposed to be true about nofap? What are you expecting to happen?
/r/ExRedPill05/01/23 03:03 AM
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This is the opposite of “crazy”. Men and women are so different as individual people that there is no valid way to debate anything about the groups as a whole, especially when debating non-measurable variables. And obsessing about it I literally just a waste of your time that could be spent on actually being productive and proactive in your own life instead. I honestly feel like when people get so deep into the obsession of the debate, they are running from specific problems in their lives that …
/r/ExRedPill04/01/23 06:37 PM
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This is similar to what I was thinking with “planting seeds”. I’ve done a lot of work with drug addicts and it’s very similar. You have young people coming into rehab because their parents are making them go or whatever who aren’t quite ready to quit. All you can do is plant the seeds, so that once they are ready, they have sone information to go off and contemplated. Many guys end relapsing many times, but once they are ready to change and let those planted seeds grow, it’s immensely helpful fo…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 10:11 PM
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How do you know that?
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 07:58 PM
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Okay, I’ll make more of an effort to engage patiently if I believe someone is genuinely trying to understand something. Noted.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 07:57 PM
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It’s difficult to make out tone over text. And as per the rules, this is not a debate sub. You can go over to other subs if you want to debate pill ideologies. You are correct that my tone probably comes off different in person, and to other users online as well, because tone is hard to interpret through text. I can’t convey a warmth the way I would through facial expressions, body language, vocal expressions , etc. But part of engaging online is having that understanding. The questions I ask ar…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 07:07 PM
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I mean if you want to believe those assumptions about me, I can’t change your mind.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 06:57 PM
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I wouldn’t say I come here to feel better about myself, but when I feel like I might be helping someone or making some kind of positive influence, yeah, I do feel good. My career is centered around a similar life outlook. What’s wrong with feeling good about helping people? I feel like there are worse ways to feel good, no?
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 03:29 PM
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🤣🤣🤣
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 03:16 AM
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Let me know how it goes. Enjoy your time, you sexy sexy thing!!!
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:39 AM
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There’s a difference between being dismissive and not encouraging rumination or blame (which is not psychologically healthy). We can acknowledge there are systematic issues in society and discuss solutions without having a kindergarten “boys rule and girls drool” pissing contest. That really doesn’t do any good to either the individual person or society.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:30 AM
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I’m not engaging with you because your views on human sexuality and desire are asinine. If you want to feel sexy like a woman, by all means, wear some sexy lingerie and stockings and makeup, do a lil dance in the mirror, take some pics, and engage with your sexy feminine side. Go be sexy dude. Good luck.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:20 AM
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I thought it was the milkshakes that bring the boys to the yard?
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:13 AM
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A lot of guys come in here with mental health problems and disorders that needed to be treated with professional help. This isn’t therapy. I cannot cure your depression, childhood trauma, and social anxiety with my Reddit comment. What are you expecting? We cure autism with the combined powers of Reddit karma and awards? When we tell someone to seek therapy or work on their cognitive distortion before they can engage in healthy social interactions and they don’t listen….what else can we do? What…
/r/ExRedPill30/12/22 12:10 AM
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Thank you, kind soul! I definitely notice your comments as well and think they’re so important for this community. Its difficult being a consistent commenter here sometimes, wish we could all meet up in a break room and have some snacks and a chat when it gets too frustrating haha
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:15 PM
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Because this isn’t a subreddit to help guys get laid. We’re not PUAs. There are, however, plenty of success stories of men becoming more comfortable with themselves and having their first dates and interactions with people or having good experiences after finally addressing their mental health concerns. You’re looking for the wrong thing here, bud.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 11:09 PM
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I don’t understand, is she your friend or the guy is? You worded your post as if she is your friend. And then he showed you the recording? Is he recording her because no one believes him? I’m so confused about this situation.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 10:40 PM
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Ok David Attenborough
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 09:07 PM
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This is a you issue. A lot of men can’t relate to the kind of points and ideas you’re making. I sure as hell can’t. All of this sounds like nonsense to me, and like you’ve never studied actual human reproductive biology/development or had any kind of meaningful, deep relationship that isn’t based on “woman has vagina, man makes sex, OOGA OOGA”.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 08:55 PM
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I don’t think people are scared to call it out. It’s just hard to notice emotional abuse and what goes on between someone’s relationship and their private lives. How are we supposed to call out something we don’t know is going on? Unlike your “friend”, people don’t generally broadcast that they are planning on emotionally abusing someone. I’m curious how she even said this to you??
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 08:40 PM
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Thanks, appreciate it! Your feedback and perspectives are really helpful as well! I totally agree. It’s a lot easier to give up and blame rather than work on your actual issues. Some people also get addicted to that negative feedback loop and the intense emotional roller coaster that comes with it. Sometimes wallowing in anger and stewing in those intense emotions feels safer than the unknown (especially if they grew up in environments with constant negativity).
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 08:34 PM
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So what are you going to do?
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 08:26 PM
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The same way I would feel about one of my guys friends who only targets naive, inexperienced women. I would think that person has maybe some self esteem issues going on if they feel the need to seek someone they feel they have power over. If they are genuinely my friend, I would point this out and have a calm conversation about why they have this pattern or why they are seeking out naive people on purpose. Your friend probably has some deeper issues going on. If I’m not very close to this person…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 07:33 PM
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I’ve noticed arguing with these types of folks can definitely make me feel angry and disappointed especially when it is clear they are not actually seeking help and are committed to wallowing. As a man who has done a lot of self-work and seen a lot of growth in myself and my mental health, I have a desire to help out young men struggling with these issues, but you can only do so much if they don’t want to listen. I think what bothers me the most is when I see guys complain about “no one cares ab…
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 07:17 PM
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The other comment was already really great. I’ll add that it’s generally about lifting your partner up, not putting them down because you admire the person that they are and you want them to thrive in life. Respect helps the relationship feel stable and safe because without respect it’s hard to build trust. It’s easier to trust someone when you feel respected by them because it helps us understand that our partner has our best interest at heart and isn’t viewing the relationship selfishly.
/r/ExRedPill29/12/22 06:42 PM
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The fuck is this shit? You know men are capable of using their brains to select a partner who is a good match for them in the long term? Sorry you don’t use yours, but we are in fact intelligent enough to choose someone based on more than just good looks. Why are you assuming all she brought to the table was looks anyway? That’s fucked up man.
/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 10:20 PM
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The kind of men who can’t see women beyond their age and looks are like the kind of women who can’t see guys beyond their paychecks and dick sizes. They are immature and value materialism, do not understand the depth of human relationships, and are probably not someone you want to have a relationship with. Your boyfriend sounds like a keeper. Please do not lump him into the category of shallow pervs and sugar daddies if he has not proven himself to be that kind of person. Just like their are wom…
/r/ExRedPill28/12/22 09:16 PM
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That makes sense, those are important things to work on for your long term happiness and well being. Depression and self-esteem are a hell of a battle on your own (speaking from personal experience). Good on you, man. Therapy is what helped me actually be okay with who I am and work on the things I wanted to change. I think it helped to see myself with more self-compassion and be more forgiving when I mess up because I know I am always trying to learn from my mistakes. This also helped me see ot…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:48 PM
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Self-work is a journey, and a long, difficult one at that. Proud of you for going into therapy. It’s not quick and easy, but it’s effective when you’re doing the right work. It’s nice having someone to vent to, and learning to handle your emotions is a very important skill that you will need to use all throughout your life in any area. If you don’t mind sharing, what does “fixing you” look like? What are you fixing exactly? Like are there specific goals you are working in in therapy with your th…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 10:33 PM
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How often do you go? What have you found has been helpful in therapy and what has not worked as well as you were hoping?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 09:43 PM
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It’s not that, it’s just painfully obviously you haven’t had a lot of social experience with other humans outside of incel spaces and you’re so focused on sex that you are blind the the social aspects that go into different types of relationships. If you’ve only seen the sky in black and white photos so you believe it is grey (how incel spaces view women and sexuality and relationships- “all men this” or “all women that”) you’re not going to believe the people who say the sky is blue, orange, bl…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 09:41 PM
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Your brain is warped by porn dude
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:43 PM
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I’m going to stop replying to you because you aren’t even reading my comments in full. Best of luck.
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:41 PM
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I am part of that gender with many friends and family and coworkers in that gender. You are not the king of all male experiences. Don’t disrespect men like that. We absolutely experience love, vulnerability, and being desired by our loved ones. Incel/RP spaces lied to you. You are believing something that is not true which is harming your outlook in life and your mental health. Just because you do not have easy access to sex with whatever women you’d like does not mean that it is impossible for …
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:37 PM
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Jesus dude, get off incel spaces. These are not facts. You have been brain washed. Are you just going to live the rest of your life being mad that you weren’t born looking like a model? That’s such a waste of time and energy. Aren’t you tired of comparing yourself to everyone else constantly?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:27 PM
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Low effort response to my wall of post. Not sure what you disagree with because I made multiple different points and my last paragraph was a question, not something you can even disagree with. My last question was also about self-improvement, not dating. So I’m going to assume you didn’t read my whole comment. You say you want help but aren’t receptive to what others are saying. What are you expecting to happen?
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:21 PM
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A lot of women say they want to date someone taller than them, not tell compared to everyone else. Also many women genuinely don’t care. Now, think about the kind of women you are thinking about who are stuck and obsessed with dating someone 6 ft or whatever standard you are picturing (it’s not very common amongst mature adults). That women is probably quite tall herself or she is just shallow about height. You probably wouldn’t be compatible with that person any way. Now think of the other side…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 08:14 PM
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Apparently you only meet women with “brain dead majors”, so like, how are you supposed to relate to women if you’re only meeting women with majors you don’t care about? Do you only care about other engineers? Because there are plenty of women in STEM who are not engineers in your classes. Why aren’t you noticing or trying to meet them? I’m going to be blunt with you, it seems like you only see women as their physical appearance and you are unable to see the very many different personality traits…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 07:42 PM
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As others have pointed out, you are still into the redpill mindset if you think the only traits women value are height, wealth, and extroversion. I understand you are only 20, so I get that a lot of younger folks your age tend to be more shallow because they don’t know much about themselves or the kind of partner they want in life so they tend to go for the shallow things that media has told them to like (plus young adult hormones easily swayed by good looks, I’ve been there too). You don’t need…
/r/ExRedPill27/12/22 05:50 PM
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Well the same way you go off other people’s energy, other people tend to do the same. So, maybe the energy you portray around women might seem distant and closed off, therefore they are being the same? Plus, in the situation you described, they are working. If a worker notices a customer is in a certain mood, they sometimes try to replicate that energy so they don’t annoy the customer by being extra cheery or energetic. Or the worker themselves might be under stress and not have the capacity to …
/r/ExRedPill24/12/22 10:37 PM
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Do you say anything to them first? “Hello, how are you? Happy holidays!” With a smile on your face? Or do you just stare at them and expect them to smile and start a convo when they are trying to to their check out job? You’ve posted some examples before on here of how sometimes you don’t seem to understand certain social cues or you perceive totally neutral actions by women as negative. Do you think this is similar to those cases or did you try something different?
/r/ExRedPill24/12/22 10:25 PM
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Did she tell you that? Or you are just assuming? If there were problems in the relationship, that was probably it, not just someone taller and better looking. Is it possible the other person had other traits like maybe personality/communication style or life goals and values that were more compatible than hers? Idk, maybe she was hypergamous, but from my experience, it’s rarely that simple unless the relationship was purely transaction like a sugar baby situation.
/r/ExRedPill22/12/22 10:01 PM
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You realize most of the people on there are dudes and bots? Meeting up with random men and sex have more risks for women’s safety than it does for men. That is just a statistical fact in crime rates. Plus many women understand that a lot of guys in dating apps are just trying to use them for sex and will take anyone and anything. That’s not very appealing for a woman who is already taking a risk in meeting up with a stranger. You’re going to the worst place to meet women and wondering why it’s n…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 08:54 PM
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They don’t. Your view on women and their lives is wrong because you spend all your time online and on incels spaces. You need to admit you don’t know as much about what women want and how they are treated as much as you think you do. Edit: just because you feel worthless about yourself doesn’t mean other men feel that way. Your feelings and view in life do not represent how other men view life and their self worth.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:38 PM
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Incorrect. Social skills can be learned, practiced, and developed at any age. You don’t need to be a charismatic extrovert to be loved. Plenty of people like chill introverts who would rather not be the life of the party. Introverts usually like spending time with other introverts. As I told you in our DMs, I myself was shy and awkward in high school and as a kid. You didn’t ask me anything more about it if I changed or what helped me grow. You ignored that too because then you would have to adm…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:36 PM
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I am telling you that it is possible to work on your self worth and improve how you view yourself. You have more control over your life than you think and the world doesn’t revolve around looking like a “chad”. That’s silly and majority of functioning adults out in the world aren’t so focused on random specific physical features the way incels are. But for some reason, you keep repeating incel jargon and fake statistics from 15 year olds on the internet who don’t know how to interpret scientific…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:27 PM
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Sometimes relationships don’t work out and it’s not because of hypergamy. You two weren’t compatible in her eyes and that’s enough for you to deserve a relationship with someone who thinks you two are compatible. Selecting a partner who is a better fit for you isn’t hypergamy. That’s just common sense and finding the right relationship. Most relationships don’t workout until you find one that does. That’s life, people, and dating. Thank you.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:14 PM
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Okay, so sounds like it wasn’t meant to be. You deserve someone who loves you just as much as you love them without any weird power stuff. That’s a fair and healthy standard to seek in a relationship. So you had your first bad relationship. Welcome to the world. Hopefully you learned more about yourself and the kind of person you want to be with (and not be with) so you can know what to seek out in future situations. Wishing you the best.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 07:00 PM
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Stop replying to me if you’re just going to say the same depressed nonsense and ignore everything I’m saying? You aren’t listening to anything I am writing or to my responses on your direct message. What do you want from me? Reach out when you want to stop hating yourself and are actually willing to believe you can improve your life. Otherwise, you’re complaining just to complain and I’m not here for that. I genuinely tried man. Your self hate isn’t even allowing you to have a normal conversatio…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 06:55 PM
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I mean, is your goal to have a happy, healthy relationship that is full of mutual respect, trust, and genuine care towards one another or is your goal just to have a weak servant by your side who you can have sex with? Power is what people use who are too afraid that no one will love them genuinely so they have to play games to keep people around them through manipulation. Do you think someone can genuinely love you for who you are and care for you as a person? If so, why do you need to have pow…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 06:25 PM
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You’re not being realistic. Your mind is stuck in a negative depression loop so you are having a hard time believing that it’s possible to not feel this awful about yourself. It’s absolutely possible to raise your self-esteem and feel better about who you are as a person.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 06:19 PM
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You need professional help for your lack of self esteem. YOU are the one who thinks you are worth nothing. Not women. Fucking work on the kind of person you want to be so you can feel at least a little proud of yourself. You want to be more social? Make more friends. You want to have better finances? Work on setting up a career for yourself…get training or an education or a new job. Do you want to feel healthier and stronger? Work on eating better and working out. YOU are the one making yourself…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:53 PM
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That’s because you spend all your time on incel spaces. You realize you are “learning” about women from people who literally have no experience with women? And you are denying the experiences of men who have been in healthy relationships who are telling you that it’s not that case? Does that seem logical to you?
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:44 PM
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Why do you think you’re like that by default but that’s not true for women. Do you realize how wrong that sounds? It works for women similarly. You need to understand that the information you have about what women are attracted to is wrong. You have been lied to. Some women, like some men, only go for superficial traits and value physical appearance above all else, but this is not true for many people, especially people who are not superficial themselves and value other traits over just physical…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:36 PM
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Fyi, it’s not about power. Having unbalanced power dynamics in relationships is often unhealthy. Partners should feel like equals otherwise you’re opening up a whole host of problems and resentment. Power dynamics are between bosses and employees, parents and kids; it shouldn’t be between a loving relationship. Otherwise you’re not maintaining your relationship with love, trust, and respect, you’re maintaining it with power like some kind of monarch. Take a deep look at why you feel you need to …
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:23 PM
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My man, get some help for that lack of self-esteem and self worth. The way you view your worth and value as a man is sad and incorrect. Our value is so much more than that. Stop spending your time in toxic places online with hateful men and women. There’s more to life then what you look like, and mature, fulfilled people are aware of this. You are causing your own suffering by believing these false things about physical attraction, appearance, and human value. We’re not robots bro. Put your ener…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 04:08 PM
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Are you only attracted to conventionally attractive women? Like there hasn’t been any women that were pretty average but you hung out with them a bit and felt attracted to them? This is a common experience both men and women have. You’re not doing yourself any favors if you are lying to yourself by believing only conventionality attractive model looking people find love in relationships. That’s just not reality. Average people and everything in between fall in love all the time. I’m assuming you…
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 03:57 PM
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My guess is that it was a marketing tactic (in a positive way). That title would probably interest the kind of men who would benefit from that kind of knowledge the most. Or so I’m assuming.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 01:12 AM
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I deleted my previous comment because I looked at your previous posts to try to get some context and it seems, correct me if I’m wrong, that you are trying to get better with women so you can cheat on your wife. I don’t support it.
/r/ExRedPill21/12/22 12:31 AM
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This comes up a lot in this thread, and I think at the core it’s about where you are spending your mental energy and time. Every time you notice yourself comparing yourself to someone else, try to cut that thought and think about traits you have that you like about yourself (not just physical, personality, accomplishments, and values too). Can’t think of anything you’re proud of about yourself? Well then I think that is the first place to start. Also, most people don’t look like super models and…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/22 11:14 PM
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The alternative to red pill is just living your life. Red pill gives guys a set of rules and instruction to follow which they claim will lead to women, but life doesn’t work like that because humans are so different and varied that there is no set of rules or pick up guides that are guaranteed to work. You are seeking easy “how to” instructions for complex human interactions which just doesn’t exist. What are your current goals and what do you have to realistically do to work on them? Do you wan…
/r/ExRedPill20/12/22 07:41 PM
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Life isn’t always fair. We can’t all be born into wealthy families and look like super models. This is true of both men and women, and is just a fact of life that humans needs to accept. Comparison is the thief of joy and all that. You wish you were a wealthy, attractive millionaire so you can have a large selection of women to sleep with and date. I wish I was wealthy and intelligent enough to fund my own research and find the cure for certain medical/mental disorders. That is not the case for …
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 08:09 PM
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…..you know you have more control of your life than you think? And just cause you’re not getting laid doesn’t mean you’re a “loser”. What are you “losing” anyway? The opportunity brag to your guy friends? Herpes? There’s more to life than sex dude.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 07:16 PM
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A lot of people suck. But there’s also a lot of people who don’t suck. You can’t put people, men or women, in a box like any of the “pill” ideologies because humans are more complex like that. The red pill isn’t some secret truth people have been hiding from you, it’s for people looking for someone else to blame for their problems. Some people are mean and abusive, some people aren’t. This isn’t new news. As humans, we need to find ways to navigate living in a world with many different kind of i…
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 07:01 PM
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You’re not cool or edgy. RP unproductive towards one’s mental health and shows a lack of personal responsibility. Sure, join the “dark side”, have fun being miserable, misunderstood, and not being able to authentically connect to people.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/22 04:13 PM
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You forgot to mention the tuft of werewolf hair he needs to obtain on a full moon during Gatorade rising
/r/ExRedPill15/12/22 08:52 PM
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Look, people aren’t responding kindly to you because you are looking at women like livestock to mate with. You don’t seem to understand that women are people with different life goals and personalities. I, unlike you, do not value youth and “fertility” when selecting a partner. You want a young women to have sex with and have your children, but you don’t even realistically know what human relationships are, so you’re only thinking with your porn fueled dick. Why would we want to help someone who…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 10:18 PM
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First off, what is your reasoning for specifically seeking out college aged women? Also, do you understand that there are women of all ages in college? Are you okay with dating a women your age in college, or do they specifically have to be 10 years younger? Second, while 10 year age gaps exist, they’re not very common and also there is a big difference in age gaps developmentally between a 20 and 30 year old compared to a 30 and 40 year old. Do you realize that a 20 year old is not far off from…
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 10:05 PM
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That does not mean that the therapeutic modality of DBT is geared towards women. Again, just clarifying because it is also beneficial to men. CBT and DBT are not gendered.
/r/ExRedPill14/12/22 05:25 PM
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Just clarifying for others reading this too: while DBT has some aspects similar to CBT, especially in terms of emotional regulation and coping, it’s is a different type of therapy and not necessarily directed at women. Plenty of men would also benefit from DBT if they have trouble regulating their emotions. I’m wondering if maybe the stereotype came up because DBT notoriously works well for certain personality disorders, so it’s associated more with women?
/r/ExRedPill13/12/22 12:43 AM
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While social media has become prevalent, many people aren’t avoiding spending time outside and are not using dating apps, or many try once or twice, see how impersonal and sketchy it can be and leave without ever meeting up with someone. I’m assuming you spend more time online then outside, so you are mostly exposed to the viewpoints of those who choose to isolate and only spend their time on social media. Realistically, if you step out into the world, you will see that many young people are out…
/r/ExRedPill08/12/22 07:26 PM
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Big yikes
/r/ExRedPill05/12/22 03:42 AM
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I think this is exactly the kind of stuff you SHOULD bring up in therapy. This is like going to your medical doctor when you have a broken leg but you only bring up your latest cold symptoms. How are they supposed to help you treat the problem if they are not aware of it? Plus you don’t know how she’ll react and her reactions and feelings are not your responsibility to manage and handle. That is her job, not yours. It’s nice you are considering her feelings and her relationship with you, but thi…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 07:43 PM
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I think it would help to see women as individual people with their own different personalities, upbringing, cultures, experiences, and goals. It’s easy to hate something you know is unlikeable. TRP puts women in a box full only of bad, malicious traits. If you think all women are the same and all want the same thing (which is not you), it makes sense why you’re so bitter at them and why it’s so easy to hate them. I would hate all women too if I thought they only want men for this looks and money…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 07:09 PM
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I second the many comments here saying to check out therapy. Lack of motivation can be caused by many things, so you really need to get to the root of that which is what a psychologist can help you with. Many people who are ambitious and motivated are visualizing long term future goals that have for themselves. They want to build a stable, fulfilling life for themselves because they believe they deserve happiness/success/whatever and will make it happen. Not saying this is the same for you but I…
/r/ExRedPill02/12/22 04:18 PM
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Exactly. We gotta consume our media critically and thoughtfully.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/22 05:06 PM
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At the end of the day, it’s a business. They want your money/ad revenue and they’ll design the app in any way they can to try to get it. While some people find success with them, that’s not really the company’s true priority.
/r/ExRedPill01/12/22 03:49 AM
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No, dude. No. Both groups are hurt, lonely, or frustrated individuals who don’t want to get hurt any longer but want to “win” with the gender to prove their worth as a woman/man. Both groups are operating from their hurt and emotions. Neither group is representative of how average people date and what the seek in a relationship. Why does this have to be a “us vs them” thing? Why is there such a secret about “what women really want”? They’re humans just like us with the same emotions and just lik…
/r/ExRedPill30/11/22 03:44 PM
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Well you have some experience now and you have learned what an emotionally unhealthy relationship looks like. Maybe now you can be a bit better at spotting red flags and find someone who is kinder and more understanding to you and your boundaries. Do you have any friends or family you can talk to about this in your life? Anyone you trust?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 10:10 PM
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With her? Does that seem like a good idea? Is she someone who you would want to raise kids with? You’re digging your own grave man. If she doesn’t get therapy and you don’t work on your self-worth, nothing will change. Idk what you were expecting or what kind of answers or help you were seeking. Both my partner and I have had bad shit in our pasts. We both have gone to therapy and we are capable of talking about our pasts in a way that has boundaries and is mindful of the feelings of the other p…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 10:05 PM
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Why are you “martyring” yourself? She needs therapy, and until then she may not be very stable. If she is not making an effort to heal from her past trauma and expects you to be her therapist and punching bag, leave. 2 years? Why are you still there? What are you getting out of this? “I have to take the shit otherwise some other guy will come and take it and I’ll lose”. This is not a game. There is not winning and losing. Or maybe a “win” is considered having a healthy happy healthy relationship…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:35 PM
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Youre not a wimp if you leave someone who is hitting you. Hitting you is very disrespectful. If you have self-respect, you will want to leave. How is it wimpy to make decisions that are better for your life and well being?
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 09:29 PM
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Are you trying to star in the next Marvel movie or become an Calvin Klein underwear model or aspiring fitness guru/personal trainer? If your answer is “no”, then you do not need a six pack. Average women don’t expect to their partners to look like Thor no more than the average dude expects to date a woman like ScarJo or insert favorite porn star here. You are being too influenced by the media. Recognize it for what it is: a tool to entertain and capitalize on people insecurities to buy whatever …
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 07:49 PM
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Sorry if wasn’t helpful. Maybe if you responded to the various points, I can be more helpful. I guess I didn’t understand what you needed help with.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 05:06 AM
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You usually can’t know that after knowing someone for only three months, no offense. Plus, teenagers are going to grow and change immensely in the upcoming years, so it’s not the most stable time to judge long term compatibility. Hope the other stuff I wrote was helpful.
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 04:28 AM
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Depends on the baggage and what you mean by work through. If you have a legitimate mental health problem like depression, trauma, anger management, severe anxiety, then no, a girlfriend cannot help you with this because she is not a trained clinical psychologist and would not know how to treat your symptoms. If you are asking if you can vent, share challenges you faced from the past that are affecting you, ask for some advice/feedback, then I think most partners are on board with that and probab…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 04:21 AM
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Welp, sounds like it wasn’t meant to be. Happens to most people at least once, but I know it hurts like hell. You’ll get though it. She sounds pretty immature and indecisive as a person (which isn’t super surprising for an teenager). I know it hurts right now, but this is one relationship in your life and you should take it as just a learning experience. Maybe you can recognize some red flags now or some compatibility differences or life lessons. Young relationships are less likely to last, they…
/r/ExRedPill29/11/22 04:02 AM
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I see. Well that is not what I meant by “this”. Please read the parent comments to gain a better understanding of the context of the comments and to better understand the topic we were taking about.
/r/ExRedPill28/11/22 10:21 PM
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Please quote me where I said wanting to have a partner who cares about your personality is an insecurity
/r/ExRedPill28/11/22 09:18 PM
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This makes zero sense
/r/ExRedPill27/11/22 12:00 AM
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You are making a lot of assumptions about people who partake in casual sex and still not proving anything about “instinct”. You are assuming that if a woman has had causal sex partners before - they are more likely to cheat. Is this the same with men who have had casual sex? How many people does one have to sleep with for it to be “too much”? What do you think of people who engage in casual sex for a bit, maybe when they’re younger like in college, because they are focused on their studies and n…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 08:11 PM
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This pursuit of power through coercion, revenge, and tearing others down to make yourself feel more powerful is not normal and is seen as pathological to how we function in society. This also will not lead to genuine “happiness”, but that also depends on how you definite happiness for yourself. Having some notion of power/control in your own life is seen as healthy and there are many healthy ways to pursue this kind of power that does not involve harming other humans in the process. It’s positiv…
/r/ExRedPill21/11/22 08:04 PM
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What you feel is not your “instincts” as a man, they are your emotions. Not every man feels the same emotions that you do about this topic. A lot of it comes from your own views on sex and what it means to you. Many people do not view sex as something that corrupts you and something you have to compete to the be best at to keep your partner. That’s a lot of RP viewpoints that comes form conservative/religious beliefs about sex outside of wedlock being something sinful, and then insecurity stemmi…
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 10:00 PM
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This is a gross and bitter way to look at sex, and honestly this reeks of lacking self-esteem, not having it.
/r/ExRedPill20/11/22 07:39 PM
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This isn’t about matching the AMOUNT of money, but matching the ability to be financially stable and self sufficient (basic skills everyone needs to develop). Does this make sense to you? I am career oriented and can support myself, and my partner makes a buttload more than me because of her degree/career. We work similar hours though so we divide the household responsibilities up pretty evenly. This is pretty common in this day and age where I live. If someone has worked their ass off to get in…
/r/ExRedPill18/11/22 04:33 PM
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I don’t think you read all the comments. Bro talks about being abused by one woman and the only way he knows to deal with it is by gaining power through rejecting and dumping attractive women. He also seems to want to “settle” for an average woman who he basically says will be boring and only use him for his money. He’s caught real deep in these fake RP ideas about women and relationships.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 09:50 PM
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I guess where we disagree is how he is generalizing the bully (one specific individual woman who hurt him) to all woman. My bully example was more about how an immature person hurts you in the past, yes you avoid THAT person, but it’s extremely unwise and unhealthy to now believe everyone is a bully, which is what OP is doing towards women he deems attractive. We also seem to disagree on getting a bully back. Personally, I think spending time and energy to get a bully back rather than just livin…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 09:37 PM
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I didn’t know you’re a fortune teller and know exactly who you’re going to marry and how that marriage will go. “Settling” for a person who you do not actually love is very unkind to the other individual who actually loves you. That is pretty crappy, and not treating them like crap would be allowing them to find a partner who actually loves them, not someone who secretly resents them because they don’t look like a model. That’s fucked. I’m sure you wouldn’t want a partner to feel that way about …
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 09:17 PM
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I see what you’re saying, but 20 year olds, both men and women, usually date differently than when they’re 30 because 20 year olds lack the experience to know what qualities they truly want in a partner, what kind of partner is compatible with them, and younger folks tend to be more shallow since they don’t know any better when starting to first date. It’s true for both men and women. Most people don’t have their life together in their 20s but that becomes more of an expectation in your 30s as b…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 07:51 PM
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He’s not talking about just dating different people though….he specifically wants to date an attractive woman to feel the power of rejecting and dumping her. He does not have the intention of getting to know these women and figuring out what he likes. It’s a clear revenge fantasy because he is bitter about being rejected in the past. You think this is a good idea? You don’t see this as vindictive? What is “blue pill dissatisfaction”? Shouldn’t we be looking away from all “pills”?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 07:12 PM
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So if something bad happens to you then you have to do the same bad thing to an innocent person who had nothing to do with it? If someone did that to you, that’s awful and I’m sure it hurt you. Why do you want to be the same kind of awful person when you could be going after healthier connections that will bring you genuine happiness? Revenge does not bring joy or comfort. It will just turn you into the kind of thing that you actively despise. You have a choice here to either life for yourself a…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 06:59 PM
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Read his comments. His intentions are out of revenge as he just wants to feel the power of kicking an attractive woman to the curb.
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 05:49 PM
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Do you think this is a normal and healthy way to feel? Do you think hurting someone who never hurt you will make you feel better about the rejections you have had in the past? So you think it’s okay for a women who was abused by a man to go find another man to abuse so she can feel the same power?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 05:48 PM
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That’s so vague though. It’s not like all attractive women have the same preferences and date the same kind of people. Also, people in their 20s date a lot more differently then people in their 30s. People grow and mature immensely in this time period. So what will this prove? People get their life together for themselves and usually seek a partner who is also in a similar mind frame. So he got his life together so he can date women who have that very basic standard, but the issue is he seems bi…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 05:42 PM
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What’s the difference between the women you’re attracted to who wouldn’t give you their attention and a decent-average woman who adores you? Can you give an example, I’m confused. Like date a very hot woman who you don’t care about and then marry an average woman? Do you think it’s not possible to have a serious relationship with a woman you also find attractive or do you specifically want to date a certain woman who didn’t give you attention out of spite to prove to yourself that you could? Mos…
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 05:14 PM
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like you’re asking if it’s ok for you to have casual sex with women who you do not have romantic feelings for, and then pursue a relationship with someone who you love and are compatible with. Did I understand that correctly? No one is stoping you from doing this as long as you’re honest about your intentions. No man “should” do this, but sone choose to and some would rather not (just like women). Is this what you want for yourself?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/22 04:45 PM
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Cool, all power to you. Not sure what your degree level is, but just clarify that what you are doing is not “therapy”, but is more help from an online stranger who wants to share their experience. I’m sure you’re aware. Just keeping things therapeutically ethical.
/r/ExRedPill15/11/22 11:14 PM
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We’re very advanced apes and we are in fact special because our brain development is far more advanced especially when it comes to logical thinking, impulse control, and decision making. What do you mean where is “proof” of rationality? The fact that we are for the most part civilized and are not full on murdering everyone in cold blood for petty reasons is good proof. Neuroscience and neurocognition are entire sciences about our brain that show proof that we have the ability to be rationalize. …
/r/ExRedPill11/11/22 02:23 AM
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Yes, exactly true. Sorry you had to deal with people like that in your life. It’s so difficult to get some of those guys to understand the nuances of cause and effect and social interactions in general. They often haven’t had many good examples of healthy relationships/friendships in their lives so many lack the understanding of what healthy interaction and social connection looks like, and they don’t believe those of us who tell them otherwise. Then there is the issue that it takes vulnerabilit…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/22 06:57 PM
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This was a good read, thanks for typing your thoughts out. You really hit the nail on the head with the problem of binary/black and white thinking. A lot of their frustrations are based on beliefs that all people/women function the same way and they fail to see all the many variations of individuals and personalities out there. It’s easier for them to think in terms of black and white then have to self-reflect and put in the effort of judging people and situations by a case by case scenario inst…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/22 06:02 PM
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I don’t think that was the point being made here, I think both can apply depending on the person and situation (and age - since many people tend to mature in impulse control and emotional regulation as they grow and learn). I just felt the need to clarify because of one thinks EVERYTHING is reflexive, then you are takin FB away out very evolved human ability to take time to think rationally about a situation and behave appropriately. Sone people are better at this than others and it’s a skill th…
/r/ExRedPill10/11/22 05:45 PM
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I see. I think it’s tiring for both men and women to take the lead ALL the time. I think it works if both people put in effort, but you are right that it often takes one person to get the ball rolling. But to expect the other person to lead everything is pretty unrealistic. I wouldn’t want my partner to expect me to lead and plan everything, we both do that stuff, although I did initiate our first date (but she gave me her number first, so I’d say it was pretty equal). I’m willing to bet that if…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 04:42 PM
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I completely agree. Shes incredibly smart.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 04:33 PM
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Fan of Brene Brown? She’s so great. (Also, wow, you’re a very inspiring person!)
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 02:23 AM
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From what I’ve read from redpillars and those subreddits, it’s most likely the second one.
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 02:18 AM
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Im glad you found what works for you and that you see the value of being a nice person as a principle. Just as an fyi, while some women like outgoing, charismatic men, there are many who prefer men who enjoy staying in and are introverted. Sure those women might be introverts themselves so you will have to be more purposeful about where you spend your time to meet them. Do what works for you, but as an introverted, quieter guy myself, I can say plenty of women like dudes like us. If you pretend …
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 02:13 AM
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I spot two big issues here: 1) confidence and social skills do not exist on a you have it or you don’t trait. They exist in a spectrum where some people aren’t that great, some are pretty okay/average, some are kinda good at it, some who are very good and well practiced at it, and everything in between. And I have sone good news for you: these are skills that can be learned, practiced, and improved. It’s not about lying or faking it, but with practice and exposure, you can actually develop these…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 12:28 AM
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I think your answer to self improvement for your life lies in understanding why these friendships don’t workout and why they get bored of you. Good friends don’t necessarily want you to entertain them, but they want to do entertaining stuff with you and talk about that stuff - like gaming, board games, art, working out/hiking/biking, movies/anime, food, whatever your shared interests might be. They also like to know you enjoy being their friend by doing things like keeping in touch, initiating h…
/r/ExRedPill09/11/22 12:08 AM
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Often the most fulfilling things in life can be difficult to obtain and take a lot of work. Including close friendships, a career, a skill you want to build. Things that are worth it often take some time and effort. Why do you think you can’t? What is stopping you from improving your social skills and making some friends, heck even maybe just getting closer and more support from a family member you trust and respect?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 05:36 PM
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May I ask why you have given up on finding friends? Or building closer relationships with family/cousins? I think having some people you can surround yourself with that bring you joy and make you feel better about your situation would be beneficial for you. As humans, we’re social creatures and want to feel loved and accepted, but that doesn’t mean it has to be romantically. You seem to be missing out on that very important component of having social support in your life. I would bet that is wha…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 05:30 PM
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Well, if you don’t have the social capability to have and maintain friendships, then that same skill applies to dating. Women are people. If you have trouble creating relationships with friends then do you not see how this will also apply to your relationships with women? It’s the same social functions. Do you understand this? What if you learned the blackpill isn’t “fact”? In all my years in academia and research in STEM, nowhere has anyone claimed such thing to be true and scientists/psycholog…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 05:21 PM
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I’m wondering why you avoided answering the questions about your social circle that EmbarrassedEmu27 thoughtfully brought up? We understand you are frustrated, but avoiding the feedback you are given makes it seem like you don’t actually want any help.
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 04:59 PM
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No, It’s not credibly applicable to most men in general. RP online spaces draw in certain type of guys that are already feeling hurt or very insecure about not having success with women, so of course it seems like most men are doing this in those spaces because it’s only the kind of guys who aren’t successful in those spaces. Happy, healthy people aren’t spewing in anger and avoiding trying to have relationships. However, it hurts less to blame women and pretend you are choosing to avoid them ra…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 04:53 PM
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Confidence and social skills are attractive traits, but what you don’t seem to understand is you don’t have to be a psychopath to have those traits, because when used without malicious intent, those are basic positive skills that will help someone in any area of their life. Women who get manipulated by a psychopath who is lying to them and pretending to be a good catch aren’t attracted to psychopaths. They’re attracted to the those traits you mention that are not bad and are quite healthy to hav…
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 03:23 PM
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What specific traits do you think make assholes/narcissists attractive to women? What did those researchers say that you’re referring to?
/r/ExRedPill08/11/22 04:55 AM
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Because no one in RP understands what a healthy relationship is supposed to look like. They’re just protecting themselves from hurt/rejection so they dismiss the vulnerability and closeness required for a deep and fulfilling relationship.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/22 10:31 PM
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Well, dirt of all, we’re not all the same person, so our opinions vary in here. However, what we all sun to agree on is that RP is is a harmful and unproductive mindset for an individual to have so a lot of us just want to help to out those who have fallen into that insecurity trap. Second, people don’t generally love all men or all women. We observe and love people on an individual basis. Their are men and women I love and then men and women I don’t care for and some people I dislike. RP has an…
/r/ExRedPill06/11/22 10:27 PM
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Agreed. Just be careful not to project what you want onto what everyone else wants. We’re all different people. with different goals and values.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/22 09:07 PM
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Speak for yourself. I’m very happy in my relationship.
/r/ExRedPill04/11/22 07:54 PM
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How could it have happened if you’re not ready? That sentences doesn’t seem to follow logical sense. You seem to have an okay grasp of what you need to work on, and I’m glad you are in therapy. Meds might help too if you have BP. I agree that don’t seem ready and people who are ready for a relationship tend to want someone who is also ready, otherwise that would be an unfair relationship. Keep working in yourself, especially that black and white thinking and the way you view relationships. Why d…
/r/ExRedPill02/11/22 10:01 PM
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The steps you mentioned are general steps everyone should take to improve their own lives for themselves. It doesn’t tell us much about what steps you’ve taken towards finding a relationship. How old are you? Do you know what kind of relationship and partner you’d want? What have you tried in terms of building a relationship with a woman? Why do you think you haven’t been successful thus far?
/r/ExRedPill01/11/22 11:56 PM
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I’m not complicating things. That’s how humans and human relationships work. Every case and every relationship is different. I feel like you are trying to simplify things and make everything fit into a neat box. And that’s another assumption about men. I’ve had my fun in life, if I could get some kind of pass to cheat on my partner and not have coincidences, I wouldn’t because our relationship means more to me than random sex with a stranger and I don’t want that kind of physical closeness to a …
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 08:05 PM
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Bruh, if you study biology you should know which points you made based in “biology”, when you say men are designed to be repulsed by female promiscuity and then again for wanting a woman that’s pure as possible, then the “men are designed to get as many women as they can and procreate”. Like designed by who? These are not rooted in biology as you say. These are very specific cultural norms (which change overtime along with the society) and many of these views stem from religious beliefs and cons…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:56 PM
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Look at the paragraph I’m responding to. You mentioned the biological inclination to spread their seed and then said you personally don’t know a single heterosexual man that disagrees with this. Here to tell you than an entire research clinic disagrees with you. Do you study biology? Psychology? Neurology? Any kind of research? Do you know how to interpret scientific data? Where did you learn this? You seem to be misunderstanding human DNA and human brain development in general. Humans have evol…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:28 PM
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If you truly look at redpill, they are not trying to find the factual truth. They are subscribing to fake “truths” that appeal to their hurt and emotions. It is an easy answer to blame women for their insecurities and fears. If women are the big bad wolf, then there is nothing wrong with them and they do not need to do any self-reflection. Anyone living in the real word can tell you there is no “women nature” or “man nature”, because we are all different people who grew up in different environme…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:19 PM
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It’s sexist to believe that sports and beers are limited to men (if that’s what you believe). Plenty of women are to to those things (and depending on where you live, most women might be into those things!). Many dudes hate sports and would rather stick to art or video games and many women hate rom-coms. It’s just better not to generalize and assign genders to hobbies.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:10 PM
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Did you feel the same way about segregation? You wanna bring that back too? Why have equality at all, right? Heck, let’s take it a step further and all live under a monoarchy because fuck it, no point in equality.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 07:06 PM
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I believe you, but this is why I said it doesn’t apply to every man (I come from a heavily religious culture that is very homophonic where my parents immigrated from, but those are not my views). It is very different depending on where you are and the culture you’re in. My main point was to not generalize because we don’t know what culture OP is from.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:36 PM
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I agree. Take it as a lesson learned and now you know what you will not compromise on in future relationships and those red flags will be clearer. And don’t beat yourself up about it at all if you are. People are always on their best behavior in the beginning of relationships and the real them starts to come out as they get more comfortable. This is why we date beforehand and then many relationships still don’t work out. Just have your standards and firm boundaries next time around!
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:32 PM
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Not really, I’ve lived in California all my life and people are a lot more accepting here and don’t define masculinity so narrowly. What does it mean to be masculine vs feminine? Is it how you dress? Or just about sexual orientation? What is someone is gay but just dresses in pants and a shirt? What about straight women who also wear a pants and shirt? What about straight men who like wearing “feminine” patterns and colors? I don’t see anything that would disqualify respect for those individuals…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:27 PM
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You’re being too vague and ignored everything I mentioned. I’m assuming we don’t have the whole story here.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:17 PM
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Your views are incompatible and he does not respect your outlook on people/life. I don’t think he’s as accepting of you as you think he is if he has redpill views about people and humans. Especially if he’s calling you a weirdo and doesn’t have the mental capacity to understand that different people have different views (that’s bordering on manipulative). I’d personally leave immediately otherwise you might be proving his “women are submissive and will stay with you no matter what if you have RP…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:12 PM
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He is wrong though. Certain kind of men share those views and many others do not. You can have your views, but it’s unwise to think it applies to most men. It probably seems that way to you because of the social circles you are around, and we tend to be biased to the views we hold ourselves.
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 05:05 PM
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What boundary did you set that she did not respect? And what was the condition of your boundary? From you previous post, you wanted to set boundaries so she does not talk to you in a rude and aggressive manner, there is nothing wrong with establishing this in a relationship. That’s a healthy boundary to have. BUT what you seem to not understand is people who want to manipulate/use someone DO NOT LIKE boundaries for obvious reasons. You are taking away their control over you. So ask yourself, why…
/r/ExRedPill31/10/22 04:55 PM
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Think in terms of safety of her and a potential baby, not picky in terms of best looking and makes the most money. They are picky in that they will try to avoid dangerous men or men who might be selfish, uncaring, or seems like he can’t commit to the responsibilities of a relationship and potential parenthood if that’s what she’s looking for. This doesn’t prove anything about hypergamy. It’s simply choosing the right partner for you and the life you want.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 11:03 PM
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I never argued the points you mentioned. I don’t think people should demonize either side, and they should stick to their own preferences and values. I’m an individual with my own nuanced thoughts and beliefs. Please don’t lump me I’m in with other Reddit debates you are having. I’m all for people having their own preferences and choosing partners based on their values. You would know this about me if you didn’t jump to conclusions on my comments.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:59 PM
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….by that logic you are also trying to control other peoples thoughts who are not also Christian like you are. I’m not here to debate religion or moral relativism, this isn’t the sub for that. I’m confused why you’re coming at me so hard though? Like did I do something to upset you? Not gonna lie, I feel kind of attacked out of nowhere. Are you here to debate religious values? I have nothing against your values, I meant don’t demonize as in don’t bully people and paint them all as evil because b…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:45 PM
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Ok, so if women like men that are taller than them, but guys who are not considered “tall” get into relationships literally all the time, what does that mean for you? (my dads 5’4 and my moms a 5’, great looking woman in her day, also have a lot of short friends who are very happily in love, I’m on the shorter to average side myself). People can provide all the examples they want proving your reality as false, but you still won’t believe because you don’t want to and it has not been your experie…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:31 PM
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That’s pretty long, but you’re at a different stage in your life now and have gained different life experiences since being early 20s, and life issues probably look different now and have different meaning now than they did then. I’d say try giving it a go again with someone you feel comfortable with, maybe a year or two at least. At 20, we don’t know as much about ourselves, so I’m sure it would be a much different experience for you now.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:22 PM
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I’m confused, where the heck did I say anything remotely similar to that? Did you even read my comment? Edit: I’d appreciate if you read what I’m saying and not lump me into the people who have demonized you for being conservative. I’m sorry you experienced that, but please do not project that into what I’m saying.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:14 PM
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A lot of us here are genuinely trying to help and many have in fact been affected by the redpill. You can go to purplepilkdebate if you want to argue in support of RP. This isn’t the space. Believing that there is one reality is false, because everyone’s reality is shaped by their own life experiences and the environments they grew up in. There are millions of realities. Just like how there are women who date shorter men and men who date taller women. And attraction is more than physical appeara…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:11 PM
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Have you tried writing your thoughts out and making lists? It’s helps organize all the craziness in our minds and keep track of changes. Journaling regularly helps us understand ourselves more and helps with introspection. Edit: I know this gets thrown around a lot, but if you can manage seeing an accredited psychologist for a long time, they literally help you notice those things and organize them for you and help you prioritize your life and problems. I know CBT can be short term, but sounds l…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 08:00 PM
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Where in my post did I say that people shouldn’t have preferences? My point was that we shouldn’t demonize people for having DIFFERENT preferences, and we should in fact select our partners based on similar values. It’s ok to be traditional, it’s ok to not be. Just know what you want and be honest with your intentions.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:57 PM
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Ok I’m going I stop because you and I don’t live in the same “reality”, so nothing I say will change your mind or matter to you if you’re just going to believe what you want to believe about relationships, women, and height. This is exredpill, so I was adding my input and experience in good faith thinking that you are someone trying to escape the RP mindset (which focuses way more on height than realistically necessary, causing many young men to feel insecure that they’re are not 6 fr chads or w…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:53 PM
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Being insecure isn’t a bad thing and is not a point of shame. Everyone faces some insecurity at points of their lives. If anything, being insecure signals us that there is something we want that we can work on ourselves or maybe our thoughts are not helpful and causing more insecurity. Didn’t mean to shame you. I was talking about your example sounding like insecurity in general, I wasn’t pointing any fingers or saying someone is a bad person for being insecure.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:39 PM
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As humans, our thoughts, feelings, and behaviors all affect each other. Again, it’s hard to give feedback when you’re being so vague, I feel like you are skipping out on the more important points of my point and just going to a “it didn’t work” mind frame without analyzing the specifics of why it didn’t work and how it might work better next time. I’m getting the vibe that you just want easy answers and haven’t put too much effort in yourself on the self-work part. I could be wrong, but I’m assu…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:36 PM
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Glad I helped make you feel better about yourself by getting your troll jollies off :)
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:25 PM
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First step is recognizing those patterns in CBT, next step should’ve been how to challenge those false thoughtsand make changes in your behavior. Did you do any of that? What changes have you tried out? It also helps to be specific about the problems you’re trying to tackle. If it’s vague like “trouble making friends”, then you gotta get more specific about where the trouble is in terms of trying to make friends and work on making changes in that.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:22 PM
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Dude, grow up.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:14 PM
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You’re right, I’ll tell my partner that she’s not real and that all the sex we’ve had was in her imagination. I’ll also delete the tiktok account I don’t have. Thanks for the advice, Senpai
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:07 PM
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By observing your patterns, trying things differently like a trial and error experiment in yourself, noticing any patterns in your thoughts and emotions and correcting those things by doing a reality check on any unhelpful, doom based thoughts. You mentioned you did CBT, so I’m surprised you never discussed this in therapy since it primarily focuses on unhelpful thoughts and behaviors and tools to change them. What did you learn into it that? What would you want more of from that? Getting feedba…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:05 PM
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Because life works like tinder where an overwhelming majority of users are men? Is there an RP brigade happening on this thread? What the heck is going on?
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 07:00 PM
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Long term success in terms of dating? If so, we kind of discussed how there seems to be something lacking in how you connect to people, guy friend included. It makes sense that you are not finding success in dating if you have not learned how to form those connections in general. Think of it like a skills based game - if causal acquaintance is like level 3, friendship is like level 5, a successful long term romantic relationship is like level 10. You’re gonna have issues forming those relationsh…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:56 PM
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Well I’ll be damned! That sure proves me wrong! I wasn’t aware you are are in a happy, healthy relationship and know everything there is to know about women and relationships! I’ll go ahead and see myself out.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:48 PM
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Oh I see, that’s very interesting. So you got used to the praise and external validation, so now you are having trouble finding it within yourself without the approval of others. I think the self-compassion and acknowledging your own successes might be helpful, what do you think? Do you think this would help at all? Also maybe try changing the way you look at failure. Everyone fails and it’s part of life. Failure doesn’t mean “it’s over, I suck”, it just means it didn’t work out this time and yo…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:34 PM
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You really like to think in black and white extremes. The 5 foot women wouldn’t choose her relationship based in height, that’s so odd and immature. Between two women, would you choose your partner based on boob size or more than that? She would choose the person based on how she connects to the person and if they seem compatible. This is more proof that you spend way too much time in the internet. Also your final example, that dude is going to have more issues with the fact that he is antisocia…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:22 PM
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I can totally relate to that, man. I grew up with kind of strict middle eastern parents who showed me the most acceptance/love only when I would “succeed” or meet milestones in their eyes, so it kind of messed with my self esteem because, similar to you, I only felt worthy of love and approval when I was doing something perfectly, and everything else seemed like a failure. Honestly what helped me is realizing that is how they were raised and it’s not reflective of my actual value as a person. Se…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:13 PM
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I understand what you are saying, but I’m afraid your generalizations are false and out of proportion. You can say some women care about height and some don’t. Many but not all women prefer a man taller THAN THEM, and very few women prefer a man with a specific height requirement (those women are usually really tall themselves or are super shallow). So, while we can generalize some things (humans have two ears, which is demonstrated as anatomically correct), you cannot generalize the same about …
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 06:04 PM
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Ok, going with what you said, more experience might mean more knowledge (assuming the guys even cares about learning how to pleasure those women and isn’t just selfishly getting off himself). But, many women don’t care if a guy has a bunch of knowledge about sex, especially if those women are similar. And people don’t typically ask about body and past experiences when deciding to hookup with someone, they just see if there’s some chemistry. So how the heck would women even know how many partners…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 05:28 PM
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Thanks for sharing more about the situation, helps me understand where you’re coming from more! Ok, I see. So there’s definitely a pattern you have of competing and comparing yourself with others. Something to note, when our self-esteem is based off comparison to others, it’s then very fleeting and only circumstantial, so it won’t last because the minute you “win”, then there’s gonna be someone better or something else to compare yourself to now in some other aspects of life. Coming at friendshi…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 05:18 PM
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Good for what and for who? Being promiscuous can mean different things to different people. A virgin might consider someone who has had two casual sex partners as promiscuous while someone else might think having a different ONS every weekend is promiscuous. There’s a lot of people demonizing casual sex here in the comments and not understanding that you can have casual sex responsibly while being mindful of your sexual partner and their feelings. Let’s not forget the nuance, people! That’s what…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 05:05 PM
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It appears you do not understand how attraction and human relationships work. There is more to having good sex than experience with random partners. In most relationships/dating situations, sex gets better with someone the more you experience sec specifically with them and learn about their wants/desires. A dude that only has a bunch of ONS is probably not as good in bed as a dude who’s been in a long term relationship with the same partner where they are having sex regularly. Honestly, who do y…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 04:49 PM
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Bruh, if you think TikTok is representative of real life, I got some news for you. Do you understand that it is an entertainment platform and controversial takes get more views than average, normal things we see day to day? Take some time off the internet my guy.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 04:40 PM
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I think the self-esteem issue is what sticks out to me the most. When we have low self-esteem, it can effect how we think and behave toward ourselves and towards others, and it certainly impact how we feel and interpret things. What do you think would help raise your self-esteem that is in your control? And I’m not taking about just physical appearance aspects, I mean what can you do for yourself that would make you feel good about yourself? Do you have any friendships with men that you consider…
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 04:32 PM
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Sorry, not gonna do that. I already typed it all out once before in detail in my original comment and then summarized it again in my previous comment.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 04:19 PM
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You cannot fix someone who does not want to work on themselves. You don’t need to convince her of anything. Would you mind please replying to the many points in my post (setting up boundaries, expressing how you’re feeling about the situation, walking away if boundaries are broken)? That way I can get a better understanding on what might help.
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 03:56 PM
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Congrats on working on yourself and your anger, that’s a really big step and something to be proud of! You are not expected to deal with this and, no, this is not normal. Being cursed at, yelled at, and told to “deal with it” is absolutely something I would not allow in my relationship. Have you two tried talking about boundaries at a time when you are both calm/not arguing? For example, you can say “while I would like to work on our disagreement/argument, I will not listen to you and leave the …
/r/ExRedPill28/10/22 03:50 PM
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I see. Just a suggestion, but I think it could be helpful to be more direct about your point in the post and then frame it as a discussion for people to engage in. I can see how someone might feel you are being dishonest with your intent and a lot of folks in RP spaces don’t do well with deception or pretending relate to them when you don’t. It’s not genuine. I think this subreddit is adult enough to have a discussion about a topic without you pretending to be RP. The RP users will either choose…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 05:51 PM
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What we see around us and how we interpret those things is important. I’m sorry you have been surrounded by unhealthy relationships and haven’t been in an environment that allows you to see all the great, healthy relationships out there (like mine, my brothers, my friends, some of my cousins, my uncles, coworkers). Throughout my life I have had a large social circles and have been able to experience how all kinds of people and relationships can exist. I also experienced that many people in colle…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 04:38 PM
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A) I think that you are missing the fact that how we choose to dress and style ourselves is often a representation of our personalities and is a form of expressions. It says something about WHO you are and what you value. Same with physical fitness and diet. Someone waking up at 5am everyday to go to the gym and meal preps healthy every week probably wouldn’t want to date the couch potato who only eats junk and frozen foods. It’s a lifestyle incompatibility. B) what you call “social look” isn’t …
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 04:22 PM
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Congratulations on your realization of this and your intelligence! RP typically follows whatever they’re told with little critical thinking and without doing a reality check on how different every human and relationship really is. I really liked how you wrote this out so well and got to the root problem where RP goes off emotions and projections that stem from insecurity and a fear of being played. By identifying a “good” woman and a “bad” woman in such broad ways, it creates a sense of safety f…
/r/ExRedPill26/10/22 04:08 PM
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Ask yourself the same for men and you have your answer. Your 20s are usually about finding out who you are and who you want to become. It’s honestly a lot of trial and error for many people where we’re just learning how we function in the world. Also, a lot of people start setting some long term goals then (maybe school, career, trade), and start working on those and finding their independence. I think the best case scenario of living “correctly” would also include avoiding harmful things that c…
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 03:41 PM
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I’m confused, so she IS dating you now though? Maybe her preferences are changing or she just never had an opportunity to date a brown man before. Why do you think the relationship will end soon? She’s clearly attracted to you if she’s dating you now.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 03:08 PM
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While I appreciate your point, maybe don’t refer to men of color or other ethnicities as “exotic”, gives a fetishization vibe or like they’re some kind of rare animal.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/22 03:05 PM
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Congrats on being smarter than the entire medical field and community. Looks like you know more about life and psychology than the many doctors who have spend their entire lives studying it. I guess you consider medical professionals low IQ, so I wonder who you consider to actually be knowledgeable on medical and mental health?
/r/ExRedPill24/10/22 04:15 PM
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The idea of seeing all women as wanting the same thing is common in RP, it’s a form of dehumanizing women and ignores them as individual people. OP’s post sounded like he might have this mindset, so it was important to establish that wasn’t the case.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 02:24 AM
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You need to remember that this is is exredpill, not dating advice, so we approach posts like this with the perspective that harmful redpill ideas might still lingering
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 01:49 AM
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Fair enough. You don’t have to argue, but I’m sure all the people trying to help would maybe appreciate your thoughts on their comments or answers to their questions. Usually when someone posts something, the situation is more complicated than it looks so people ask questions to get an idea of what’s going on so they can give you better feedback. Cheers.
/r/ExRedPill22/10/22 01:45 AM
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Sorry you experienced that, I have no issues with Christianity. However, I dislike generalizing about gender especially when it’s not scientifically backed up and is more about preference. Have you read the studies about those divorce rates and read what the researchers concluded as the possible reasons? I really appreciate your care about men in general, however it would be wise to read scientific articles about that topic from psychologists and sociologists. Red pillers like to cherry pick and…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 10:11 PM
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I totally agree! What we see growing up can feel so engrained because that’s literally all we knew as our brains were developing. I know I had SO much to unlearn and unpack from how I grew up. Experiencing constant trauma like that at such a young age can really mess with the way we perceive and understand our own emotions too!
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 09:56 PM
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There is a difference between masculinity and toxic masculinity. Please learn the difference of the terms through a reliable source because anyone on the internet can change the meaning of anything. That doesn’t mean it actually changes the meaning of the real notion of “toxic masculinity”, it just means that there are people misusing that phrase. (Example: someone online says “omg in so OCD, I’m such a clean freak!”, that doesn’t change the meaning of what OCD is, it just mean that person has a…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 05:36 PM
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I appreciate your points and views for your own lifestyle, but I do want to point out how it can come off disrespectful to other peoples non traditional, healthy relationship. My partner makes more money than me, so you would say she “married down”, and I think that’s kind of messed up and elitist. She doesn’t perceive me that way. Additionally, we see each other as equals. Her work also involves her being in a leadership position in STEM and she’s amazing at it. She loves her challenging work a…
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 05:14 PM
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Very true, great comment. I also feel like a lot of them don’t have many friendships, or genuine friendships at that, so it’s hard for them to picture just going out with your friends and having a good time without trying to hit one someone. Also probably some super religious types who think alcohol and dancing is only for harlots and satan.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 01:16 AM
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Why don’t you ever reply to all the other thoughtful and constructive comments? You did the same thing in one of your last posts. We’re genuinely trying to help.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 01:04 AM
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Keep up that attitude and you’re gonna lose your fiancé and end up with a wife! The lack of respect just never ends.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 01:01 AM
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Might wanna lay off the porn for a bit there, buddy. Women have the same feelings and need for acceptance as you do. Plus, men are the ones who are more likely to get off compared to women. Additionally, there are many women who claim they aren’t able to reach orgasm unless they feel connected, safe, and comfortable. Where are you getting your information from? Genuine question.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:55 AM
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But first he needs to understand that every woman is different. He doesn’t seem to have a grasp of that, so that was the more important point to hit home here.
/r/ExRedPill21/10/22 12:50 AM
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Context matters. He’s literally reciting redpill rhetoric at the exredpill subreddit. It’s basically asking for a downvote. Like, come on.
/r/ExRedPill19/10/22 12:31 AM
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I think the part you’re missing is that people have free will to peruse what aligns with them. Someone can meet a person in, let’s say a college campus pub, feel a little spark, decide to hangout with them a bit more and have sex, but neither of those people are ready for a relationship or something serious because they’re focusing on their studies. And then those people can move in with their lives and find a long term relationship later. Or someone can try out tindr, go on a few fun dates with…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 10:31 PM
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And yet there are celebrities and athletes who choose to be in committed long term relationships. It’s not “true”, but some people see sex and money as transactional. Doesn’t mean everyone thinks that way, in fact most people don’t think this way, and certainly no one in healthy, fulfilling relationships think this way.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 10:05 PM
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You can just say “find a partner with similar life goals and values in a relationship”, no need to use the alpha/beta language. We’re complex humans, we don’t fit neatly into little description boxes. Some call a man who is intimidated by their spouse making more money an alpha while I call that an insecure person who doesn’t see relationships as a partnership and can’t think logically about resources needed long term in that partnership. A man who only wants to ensure his power is a child who i…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 10:02 PM
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Thanks for your constructive and thoughtful comment. I’m gonna need some time to process all that information.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 09:51 PM
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That’s not what my comment said at all, nor any of the comments here. People on here are constantly saying women are humans just like men, not pure angels. Some people have better morals and ethics than others and all that can also depend on your cultural background. People are downvoting you I’m assuming because you base the “quality” of a women on who she has slept with. Woman shouldn’t be painted as angels, but they shouldn’t be painted as immoral demons just because they have had some casual…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 09:37 PM
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I think your comment applies to my first sentence, but my sentence can be revised to include both men and women….I feel like all this relates to insecurities and not understanding healthy relationship dynamics and intimacy. There are men and women who value sex/money over a committed, loving relationship. Additionally, someone can choose to have casual sex at one point in their lives and then decide they want a long term relationship when they feel ready for one, and this does not mean they will…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 07:54 PM
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You do know how to read scientific articles? Ok, so is that what the authors concluded at the end discussion of the study? Did they say “it appears all women are happy single and childless, so we advise the mental health community to encourage men to leave their relationships so that women can experience a single, happy life” Or “given the data, we recommended women should make every effort to stay single and child free in order to assure their happiness”? What did the researchers say are factor…
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 07:29 PM
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It’s a dumb concept created by insecure dudes who don’t understand relationships and intimacy, and are sad they’re not having casual, no string attached sex with attractive women. This is only “true” if you see sex and relationships as transactional for resources. Don’t marry a sugarbaby and you should be fine. This isn’t a thing people in healthy, normal relationships are concerned with.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 06:46 PM
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You don’t know how to read scientific articles and you don’t trust women/people in general. That is the issue here; I don’t think you actually care for her happiness.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 06:34 PM
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No, y’all just gotta learn how to interpret data and read scientific articles. You can’t just see a statistic or number and jump to your own conclusions about what it means and act as if it’s a bullet proof fact that applies to all. No one bothers to read what the researchers are actually saying about it and what confounding variables may have impacted the data. It’s the same shit people do here with the divorce and tindr online dating stats. Learn how to think critically in context y’all.
/r/ExRedPill18/10/22 06:26 PM
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Is there a difference in how your mom presented herself socially vs you? Things like having a confident posture, open body language, maybe smiles or different facial expressions to express herself, does she communicate well with others? Does she say please and thank you and show kindness to others? These things usual get people to behave similarly towards you as they replicate your body language and vocal tone, or at worse people will just be neutral. In your specific example, the worker was onl…
/r/ExRedPill11/10/22 08:43 PM
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Human relationships are more complex than that. It really depends on the situation, why it happened, how it happened, has it happened again since, who it happened with, and what it means to the relationship now. If it’s like “oh it was your brother while you were away on a business trip”, that’s going to be a lot harder to get past compared to “it was a FWB I had when we just started dating and it wasn’t serious yet and I since cut off contact with that person”. The second one would suck, but I …
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 09:32 PM
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Where are you getting all this strange information from on what men and women want? “Good guys give them ick”, is that a quote from middle school?? Who the heck is saying this stuff? FDS? You know women are different individual people and they have different personalities, values, and goals? Don’t generalize just the same as you don’t like all men to be generalized as manipulators/rapists. There are men and women who enjoy causal sex and or shorter, less serious relationships and then sometimes …
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 09:23 PM
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How does one show care and support to random strangers online they have never met or interacted with? As humans, we generally seek care from those we know and trust. So how should we show care, say, on platforms like Reddit, since that’s all we have control over in this specific situation?
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 08:57 PM
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Those are just the shallow/manipulative people, no? Why are you focusing on them and ignoring all the women who are not like that? There are plenty of women who care for the men in their lives and who were not “taught” to exploit this. Who “teaches” young men and women this anyway? Some people learn it from parents, their culture, and the environments they grew up in, which is different for everybody. Same men are taught that it’s okay to express emotions and a relationship should be equal just …
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 08:52 PM
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It is positive to be safe and stable just as you would like your partner to be age and stable herself (right? This is not a bad thing). It is possible to be attracted to someone and also think they are safe/stable. That is typically what he seen as marriage material, and to many people, they will feel more attracted to their partner if they feel safe with them. Learn to avoid people who will take advantage of you (this applies to both men and women, men can also befriend you to take advantage of…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 08:35 PM
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I want to point out that this is an insecurity you need to work on with yourself because even if you find a compatible woman who is attracted to you, you might not believe her based on your own thoughts and beliefs about women and relationships. Women are people just like men. Are there dudes who will date and marry women purely based on looks? Yes. Are those relationships healthy and emotionally fulfilling? Probably not. But is this was all men value or just the shallow ones? So apply that same…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 08:23 PM
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I’m curious why you think all women behave the same and want the same things when they are all individuals with their own goals, values, and personalities. You mention some women who might be into that, but what about all the majority who don’t? Do you think not think it’s possible for a women to love you for who you are and choose to commit to you based on compatibility and values and also love having sex with you? If so, why don’t you think this is possible for you? It’s happening everywhere a…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 07:34 PM
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You can acknowledge that someone is physically attractive and also decide you do not actually want to sleep with them. I can acknowledge attractive friends I have of either gender, and I just think “My friend is a good looking dude/gal!” in a way that I’m just happy for them. And that’s the end of that thought process. It literally doesn’t have to get sexual if you don’t want it to. Not everyone is like this (I know it wasn’t the case for me as a teen), but it’s not uncommon either. It’s just ab…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 05:22 PM
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You’re allowed to set boundaries in your friendships, you are not obligated to be a provider in any friendship. However, it is common for friends to treat each other to a meal or coffee or something once in a while and have it reciprocated back. You don’t have to do anything you’re not comfortable doing and you don’t have to do things for friends if they aren’t reciprocating back the same kind of closeness. You have more control of what happens to you in friendships and relationships than you th…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 05:10 PM
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This issue is while some men behave this way, many others do not. So you cannot say the redpill is right because it just generalizes all men to being the same way, which I find offensive to men. We’re individual people with different interests and goals. What you wrote does not apply to me and my buddies since like high school days (although I acknowledge we are a bit older than most of the young men getting sucked into these RP spaces so maturity is at play). There’s nothing wrong with acknowle…
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 05:06 PM
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Well said, this needs to be plastered to the front page of this sub
/r/ExRedPill10/10/22 04:54 PM
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Ok, you think I am too dumb to be graced with the honor of interacting you, I understand. As a mere peasant with nothing to offer, I only advise that you talk to doctors, professors, or trusted family members about your skillsets and how that has been affecting you. People closer to your level might be able to help you out. Best of luck.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 10:09 PM
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Is your family aware of your superior intellect and great the impact it has had on your life? Is it something you might share with doctors and professors or do you generally keep these thoughts to yourself? Maybe they might want to learn from you. I’m wondering if this extreme meditation and spiritual studies have allowed you to gain access to certain things or powers that other people might not hear or I see, but you are able to? Have you experienced anything like that before?
/r/ExRedPill09/10/22 08:06 PM
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That’s true, but that was not the discussion at hand in this context.
/r/ExRedPill08/10/22 04:53 AM
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You don’t live in society, you live on the internet and believe teens who make edgy memes/TikTok’s are representative of how real people make relationship choices and function. Why are you arguing RP rhetoric here? Are you trying to exit the mindset or not? We want to help you if you do, but if you’re just here to argue without considering what people are actually saying, it’s a waste of yours and everyone’s time.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 09:20 PM
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The real world doesn’t know what the redpill is. RP communities act like it’s some huge uprising that will save men from their troubles and pain, but like normal healthy people going on about their lives and relationships don’t even know what it is. And when they hear about it, the general consensus is “oh, angry misogynistic teens and trolls online”, and then they move on with their day not giving it a second thought. It’s an angry community that exists purely online. You want to join the rest …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 09:13 PM
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Are you younger? If so, serious, committed relationships are just not as common when you’re a teen or young adult. Also, people tend to be more shallow because they haven’t learned who they are or what they want yet (and some people never grow out of that). Majority of my friends are just average people dating other average people. They’re not looking for someone “better and better”, they are just looking for one person that is compatible with them. Same as dudes who want that. They’re not some …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 09:10 PM
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Most 22 year olds aren’t ready to have serious or long term relationships, or don’t always know how to form healthy ones that last. It’s the same for both men and women. Your not seeing them as much because they are not as common at that age, and, surprise surprise, 20 year olds tend to be more shallow and immature compared to older adults. There are young men who are shallow and only dream of being with very attractive women purely for their looks. There are also young women like this. Most of …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 09:05 PM
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I’m sorry, being an above average husband and father is considered leftovers for you??? Bro that’s literally the goldmine people who want husbands and kids are looking for. Do you seriously value physical appearance over the ability to be a good partner and father? That is how you may think, but you can’t believe thats what most women think. It’s the very shallow people who think like that. That’s not a very healthy mindset.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 08:52 PM
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The people we see in real life out in the world are representative of people in your area/city/state, whatever your sample size is. Of course it’s not representative of everyone all over the world, but why are you concerned with everyone rather than focus on what’s realistically around you?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 08:49 PM
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True that a lot of people definitely don’t have as much self awareness as they think they do, this is a very “nice guy” quality. Second one I think is partially true, because those “villain like mfs” understand manipulation and part of that is putting on a wolf in sheep’s clothing front. On top of that, many people don’t know how to spot potential signs of this which makes them prone to these kinds of manipulations. However, you’re definitely right that it very much sucks to admit that you fell …
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 07:25 PM
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I don’t like this. Makes me feel like I’m supposed to fit into some kind of man category. Men are multi faced and complex just like women.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 07:15 PM
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This exactly. I think RP likes spreading this as a way to deflect responsibility for their actions, desires, and obsession with sex. Plus there are lots of hormonal teens on there, so to them it feels more intense and less controllable. It’s one of by biggest pet peeves. I’m not some sex crazed animal who wants to fight and spread my seed all Willy nilly to any attractive human within my vicinity. It’s so reductive towards men and frankly pretty misandristic.
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 07:08 PM
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Great point, thanks for bringing up attachment styles and the potential damages of generational trauma. I want to add that this can be common to in children with narcissistic parents. They have a higher probability to be victims of abuse in future relationships because they are used to that dynamic with their parent (their emotions and mood are my responsibility, love is only given to me when I am pleasing them, when they are angry or upset it’s my fault, there are negative consequences for sett…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 06:54 PM
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Care to elaborate for us?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 06:28 PM
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You’re right, it doesn’t. While kindness and respect are necessary for a healthy relationship, that alone isn’t what creates a genuine relationship and connection with others. Edit: damn, I responded to the auto mod lol
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 06:22 PM
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Does your superior intellect come with any powers like understanding a big life message others don’t see, or some kind of higher purpose that is only for you to bare because you are so intelligent compared to others? or maybe you hear or see things others can’t because of this? Do any family members know that your above average intelligence is making it difficult for you to blend among other people?
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 03:59 PM
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Yikes, I think your grandiosity might be what is throwing people off and causing them to avoid you. Have you heard that term? People can be intelligent and also be silly, lighthearted, kind, and humble, and that doesn’t correlate to their grades AT ALL. And having good grades isn’t a hall pass to be an asshole. People are multifaceted, you know. Why would women who value intelligence want to spend time talking to the intelligent mean guy who puts them down when they can talk to intelligent peopl…
/r/ExRedPill07/10/22 03:35 PM
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At the end of the day every one is different and some people care for certain traits more than others. What you should be focusing on is improving yourself for you. Take a good look at yourself and set realistic goals for the kind of person you want to be. Then when it comes to finding a partner, focus more on similar values and life goals rather than having specific check box items. If someone values high fashion and having the most expensive clothes/cars, they would be compatible with someone …
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 08:07 PM
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You should be very proud of this. You didn’t let your emotions override your logic, common sense, and critical thinking skills, something RP ideology relies on. Be proud of this and be proud of your intellect. Blaming someone else for our problems may feel better in the short term, but it’s just not productive and is harmful to your self-growth and your own success in life.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 07:42 PM
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“Girls” as in multiple, different people have said this to you? Or just one girl, one time? What were the contexts when they said this exactly? And “cold” can mean different things based on context. Could be someone who is unkind or not empathetic to others. Or it could be someone who doesn’t express any emotion, maybe seems robot-like or closed-off (limited facial expressions, flat vocal tone, stiff posture). Do any of those things seem like they might apply to you?
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 07:37 PM
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I understand lol, it’s a complex thing to grasp and looks different in every relationship. Honestly, it didn’t make any sense to me growing up because my parents marriage was very unhealthy and that’s all I knew. I didn’t understand red flags or my emotions and got into some toxic situations. I’ve done a lot of growing and self-reflecting in both myself and my parents/family dynamics since then. Now I’m in the healthiest relationship of my life and we both work on that everyday. Essentially, it’…
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 05:57 PM
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Lol I apologize, my words were unnecessarily harsh there. Maybe I should say those that do that experience marriage as a transaction, not a genuine relationship.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/22 04:05 PM
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Those people are on watch lists because they advocate for and encourage crime and physical harm to others, similar to the incel forums that are on watch lists (Elliot Rogers types). What kind of man-hating, extremist crimes have you seen be advocated for and organized, and how can we report this? And note this is different from some attention seeking teens spewing hate on the internet. As distasteful as that is for both men and women, it is not a crime. The most you can do is not associate with …
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 08:49 PM
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As someone who is considered academically intelligent due to having a higher/graduate level education and working in STEM, you sound pretentious. I say this out of love and hope it is a wake up call. Intelligence is important and it’s great you value it so highly, however keep in mind that every single person you meet knows about something more than you do and you can never meet a person you cannot learn from. Also, there is a type of personality I come across in higher academia a lot where the …
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 06:04 PM
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No. There is no such biological, neurological, or psychological phenomenon that has been proven in humans. It is an RP tactic to shame and control women while feeling justified in their own hypocrisy. RPs are upset that some women have what they want, sex, so they find a way to villainize these women to make themselves feel more superior/in control, “sure, she has had more partners than I have, but it surely will backfire on her later! I am right. I win.” And when asked “but what about men who s…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 05:39 PM
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You are citing a divorce percentage from one source and then you are adding in your own assumptions, or should I say the assumptions RP spews, for why this is happening. What do the actual research articles say on why more women have initiated divorce? Hint: it’s not because they see men as replaceable or hypergamy or whatever. A healthy marriage happens because the individuals in it want commitment, a partnership, and they love and care for one another. They love the PERSON, so if another perso…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 05:24 PM
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I speak based on my many years of education + graduate level education, and my experience working in the clinical and research field. But the angry teens and 20 year olds who have only experienced life on the internet are probably right, so fuck my opinion I guess.
/r/ExRedPill05/10/22 03:59 PM
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I feel like there’s a fundamental misunderstanding of feminism and RP to you (maybe you’re young, or youve been too influenced by what you see on the internet). In real life, feminism has always been a movement about equality and advocating for huge issues by passing bills, making changes in government for equality, passing laws to make the workforce less hostile. This is still going on all over the world and is much needed since many women are still treated so unfairly on a legal, sociopolitica…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 11:18 PM
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Hypergamy exists in both men and women, but it is absolutely not the norm. This might apply to women who only value wealth/status and men who only value youth/beauty. There’s always gonna be a “better” one, and some people value chasing that more than love and genuine connections/commitment, BUT IT IS NOT THE NORM. Generally people don’t like cocky people. People like confidence and assertiveness, and this is way different than cocky. Lastly, no, not really. It’s very small grains of truth (like…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 09:41 PM
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FYI I’m coming at this from a psychological angle, not political in any way. There is more known than unknown about these numbers, although it is a very complex topic and different people have various reasons for why the decided to report vs didn’t. For both men and women, sexual assault is often not reported do to reasons revolving around shame and fear of judgment/disbelief. Something like that which can be so traumatic and cause someone to blame themself for what happened to them is a big rea…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/22 09:22 PM
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An important reminder: an extremist is labeled such because they are an outlier and do not represent the actual theory. Feminist theory is rooted in equality and is not at all about hating men, as there are many men activists in the feminist community doing a lot for both men’s and women’s rights. Think of it like politics. And extremist alt-right person who loves trump and spews racist rhetoric is not representative of what republicans believe. Same as how Al queda is a violent extreme and not …
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 11:18 PM
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I think you’re confusing dissociation for repression, and while they can happen, it is a lot more rare than you think (what sources did you use to find this info? These concepts are less common in more modern psychological research). And this is not why most rape cases aren’t reported fyi. However, you are correct that sometimes it does take time to realize what happened was actual assault (like your example of a child thinking the act is a normal way of a parent showing love until they grow up …
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 10:40 PM
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Thank you for sharing your current beliefs and your struggles to leave the RP mindset. I do have a question as I’m kind of confused with where you are in your mindset. So redpill tells you women behave in a certain way, and you mentioned you have met women who do not fall into that mindset, correct? So what do you think about that? Many many women (and men) do not behave in the way RP says they do. What do you make of this in your mind? A big part of redpill is they keep talking about and showin…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/22 09:32 PM
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I can tell you spend a lot of time in those spaces and I can tell you it’s not good for you. You are talking like someone who lives on the internet. If you really want to experience a healthy life and mindset, get off those spaces asap. You have a very dysfunctional view of humans, sex, and relationships. Edit: you are saying “ahhh my hand burns!!” but you’re refusing to take it out of the fire and let yourself heal.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 09:47 PM
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It’s wise that you acknowledged that it has been true for YOU, because it certainly is not the view that healthy, stable individuals hold. We believe the world is what we see, so it’s important to pay attention to the sources you are using to “understand” viewpoints about the world. Blackpill and incel spaces will keep pushing this narrative and keep reaffirming that these views are true while completely ignoring all the examples that show this is not an absolute truth. To challenge these belief…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 08:54 PM
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You see women hooking up with attractive men all the time? Firstly, attractive is subjective (unlike what incel/redpill says). Second, so you do not see all the average/ordinary men hooking up with women and entering relationships? Have you heard of confirmation bias? And to clarify: Your view that men want sex and will do anything to get it is about you. This is not true for everybody. Again, you need to realize that different people want different things (this includes men, I don’t like being …
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 08:47 PM
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Per my last question and upon seeing you newest post: So what have you done to challenge your incel beliefs?
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 07:46 PM
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There’s too much to dissect here, but I think the biggest issue is you have all these false narratives about what men and women want out of sex and relationships. Also, you seem to think all men and women want the same thing and there is no variation. I’m wondering what makes you the expert on what women and men want? You seem to know what YOU want, but know this does not necessarily apply to other people. Different people want different things, and these things can change as people grow and gai…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 07:42 PM
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What’s next? Stoning them in the street? A town hall hanging at the gallows? What century are you living in bro?
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 03:55 PM
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I get it, you want to date significantly younger women for whatever reason. I do not, and prefer women within my age range. Good day.
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 03:22 PM
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Finding a partner and finding a partner that is right for you are two different topics entirely. Manipulative people (both men and women) are often able to find a vulnerable person to date. Abuse happens. Shitty people exist. People get stuck in unfortunate situations or are too insecure to leave. I’ve seen some great guys with awful women and some great women with awful men. What can you do? Also, a good personality and emotional intelligence are encouraged because they are good for YOU and wil…
/r/ExRedPill30/09/22 12:45 AM
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Just because a person is educated or a lawyer doesn’t say anything about their personality and values. Look at most politicians. I think you are missing what people are saying which is different people want different things. To some men and women, personality and shared values matter. To some men and women, physical appearance, money, or some kind of a thrilling rush matters more. Also, there are many women and men who are just lost and insecure themselves and will date any person who was there …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 10:27 PM
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Many people, both men and women, do care about issues that affect men and are actively working on this. Greater suicide rates in men are discussed in mental health and medical communities, and the disparity is even higher for male veterans. These things are brought to light and there are many organizations out there doing that work (many of them also led by women). You don’t hear about these things on ig/tik tok or popular spaces like because -surprise surprise- it’s a bunch of randos shouting i…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 09:49 PM
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As I said, it is called out when seen in our lives. But also remember everyone has their preferences. Nothing I say would stop someone from being shallow if that is what they value and that person will find themselves an equally shallow partner. Why are you so concerned with people doing things you don’t agree with? That’s everywhere in the world constantly. You’re going to drive yourself crazy by putting your energy into the wrong things instead of focusing your energy on the right things that …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 09:10 PM
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You want a woman to do street shit with you? Do you want to do street shit? You want a Bonnie and Clyde situation? Women affiliated with gangs exist, women who deal drugs or offer sexual favors for money and drugs exist, women who want protection in a dangerous gang affiliated neighborhood who have no income exist, and sometime that protection comes from the dude with more guns. Lives like this exist. They are often a product of someone’s environment and socioeconomic status, it’s usually not a …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:51 PM
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Literally no one here has said those women don’t exist. What does it mean for you if there is a small portion of women who think like this? Why are you focused on them? There are men who want women like this. Let them find each other and don’t fret.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:23 PM
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While I agree with most of your comment, I just want to point out that their are plenty of beautiful women that have more options who still value their own hard work, independence, and equality in a partnership. There are many beautiful women who do not want to be seen as just their looks and want a partner based off compatibility , not income. Attractive does not equal sugar baby on its own.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:21 PM
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Many do. It’s just like toxic men where those type of men will hang out around people who hold similar views and encourage their behavior. The men who are not that way are usually not in those same social circles or they leave. Same with women. Then women who are not like that and have different values and their own independence are probably not hanging out with sugar babies and wouldn’t run into them in real life. My partner and I call that shit out with both men and women and we avoid keeping …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 08:17 PM
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Exactly. My aunt had twins in her mid 30s once she and my uncle felt financially sound and emotionally prepared. Healthy pregnancy and those kids grew up into some great young men. This is more common than young people on the internet like to be believe.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 05:42 PM
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It would be a good start. Something a lot of people don’t think about is therapy (with a qualified psychologist) is a type of relationship in itself. The therapist is a human, and you two will have a type of relationship where you work together together with common goals. Like any genuine relationship, a key part is vulnerability, trust, and open communication. All skills you can work on in therapy with your psychologist. I will point out that there are different kinds of therapist who specializ…
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 01:21 AM
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It’s not about “worse” or “normal” families and comparing yourself to them. This is more about understanding yourself and where your views come from. You keep referring to yourself as sone kind of other or someone not “normal”. There really isn’t a normal, people are just influenced by their own life situations and experiences. You’re no different. “Works on yourself” is not about living up to standards that other people place on you. Again, it’s not some expectation to be “normal” that you are …
/r/ExRedPill29/09/22 12:07 AM
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I’m not sure what you want help with, but I will point out that a lot of how you view humans is incorrect because of your lack of experience and knowledge in building human connections/relationships. This is also an assumption, so pardon if it’s not true, but it sounds like healthy communications and relationships were not modeled in your family (neither by your parents nor with your relationship with your sister/other family members). Often, when people don’t have an example of what a healthy r…
/r/ExRedPill28/09/22 09:50 PM
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Thank you for taking the time and energy for this. Misinterpreting research findings is one of my biggest pet peeves.
/r/ExRedPill27/09/22 11:41 PM
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Many of those studies were done by having the person select/rate who is more attractive on a computer screen. This isn’t how attraction works in real life since many things besides physical appearance contribute to who we are attracted to. There are also many celebrities who do not follow this trend, some very big celebrities even chose to marry older women (Ryan Gosling, Nick Offerman), so it’s really more about what the individual values, and for people like Leo D, he probably values youth ove…
/r/ExRedPill27/09/22 03:08 PM
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Yes, this conversation is pointless if you refuse to acknowledge changing trends in research and do not know how to interpret research articles. I gave you relevant, modern research study findings, but for some reason you choose to ignore them and refer to ancient data points? Society is changing so it would make sense that dating trends are changing as well. You cannot ignore this. RP likes to cite old theories and studies that have since changed and been debunked, and they refuse to cite or ac…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 11:26 PM
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Oh okay, I see
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 11:16 PM
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Exactly. Thank you for the great addition. More recent studies show a trend in age gaps between men and women decreasing. New studies are also finding that this age gap is less in areas with more equality between genders (which makes sense because there is less of an unbalanced power dynamic where women must rely on their partners). https://www.researchgate.net/publication/245022999_Age_Differences_in_Unions_Continuity_and_Divergence_in_Sweden_between_1932_and_2007
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:58 PM
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I am pointing out that MANY MANY men do not have the preference you stated; therefore you cannot claim it’s factual. Also have you read the study you speak of? Did you see how they measured this and what the demographics were? (Hint: people were clicking who they found more attractive on a computer screen, not real life dating trends. The question was about marriage/dating, not picking who is more attractive objectively on a screen where nothin else is accounted for). The same study mentions tha…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:53 PM
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Please do not claim what men are “meant to be” attracted to. I’m not a mindless animal in heat. I am capable of choosing my partner based on my own values (maturity, independence, intelligence, personal achievements and goals, attractive to me) and not some “subconscious” drive.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:16 PM
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So only seeing the woman as a breeding vessel? Athletic/fit/attractive women exist past 30 and can still have kids with little issues (especially if they’re healthy like that).
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:11 PM
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People are generally attracted to people within their age bracket. Sure, there are many attractive younger people, but there should be no issue finding a partner one is attracted to that is close to their age. It says a lot about the man is he values things like youth and age vs personality, goals, and shared values.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:07 PM
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How is this factual when there are so many men who are attracted to things like intelligence, maturity, stability, and personal achievements? I think it is offensive that you fail to realize that men are all different from one another and value different things. I want my partner to be attractive to me. Youth and fertility have nothing to do with this. Perusing a woman because of her youth/inexperience feels predatory to me. I value independence and self-sufficiency for both myself and my partne…
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 10:01 PM
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That sounds like a lifestyle coach, not a therapist and certainly not a psychologist. There’s a difference.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 09:32 PM
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I’m sure some things have changed. And things will continue to change during college and then more will change after. You’re not doing yourself a favor by thinking majority of women want the same thing or are the same. Most people don’t know what they truly want until they experience life and mature more. Young women can still be very immature just like young men in high school and college. And everyone is different. There is no “female nature”. I think the more you grow and interact with differ…
/r/ExRedPill24/09/22 02:50 PM
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I hope you don’t think that high schoolers are representative of healthy, mature adult women. A lot of high schoolers are lost and confused and are easily influenced by media. Same applies to you at that age. People grow up and mature and learn. High school girls are just as clueless as the boys. What do you expect?
/r/ExRedPill24/09/22 03:44 AM
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I’m glad you’re here and beginning to challenge the very illogical and non-factual views that’s incels and redpill spews. A couple people already mentioned therapy which I think is a great idea for your self esteem and self-worth. Practicing empathy, or putting yourself in someone else’s shoes to understand what they’re feeling, would also be helpful. Incels like to devide people and blame an “other” for their problems (attractive unattainable women, black men, tall men, overweight women). It’s …
/r/ExRedPill23/09/22 05:29 PM
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Why is that? My partner has more work responsibilities and leadership obligations, contributes more to the household financially, and still does her fair share of chores. I’m honestly impressed by her every day. Why would she not survive in my body for one day?
/r/ExRedPill21/09/22 04:52 PM
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Speak for yourself please, not “most men”.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 02:25 AM
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A lot of people here are simply saying “no”, or “it’s a status thing”, which can be true for some. However, I do want to point out that a lot of people are missing the component of compatibility . What kind of woman do you want as a partner? Someone who has sacrificed a lot and spent 10 years earning a doctorate degree is going to have different life priorities and values than someone who just lives in the moment after high school, prefers instant gratification, and decides they’re going to try …
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 06:47 PM
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Lots of men value things like education, maturity, career goals, and life experience. These qualities are generally more common in older individuals (both men and women). It sounds like you value looks, youth , and fertility, But understand that does not apply to many men. For example: I have had higher education and am very career focused and goal driven, and I have a partner who is similar. I have no interest in finding a partner based on youth and fertility. What are we going to talk about? H…
/r/ExRedPill16/09/22 06:19 PM
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Quantity doesn’t mean quality. Just because you matched with a bunch of people who want to sleep with your catfish doesn’t mean they were quality partners. And the description you give is quite the opposite; sounds like they’re just want to use him for whatever (although I’m sure there were some people with genuine intentions). Also women aren’t going to cheat on there partner just because someone more attractive comes along, same as men. Some people are better at impulse control and commitment …
/r/ExRedPill15/09/22 12:47 AM
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A middle ground exists between those two extremes. You can have a partner you think is pretty cute that is compatible with your core life goals/values, and the rest you can work through by communication and compromise. This is how most relationships are and they can work out wonderfully.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 10:17 PM
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FYI: Everything you see in mass media is driven by profit. Marketing likes to play on people’s insecurities, and then offers them products to “fix” it. You’ll do yourself a favor if you realize media beauty standards are just corporate driven and they see you as a tool to make money. It will save you and your self-esteem in the long run.
/r/ExRedPill14/09/22 10:05 PM
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Homeboy, the veterans affairs hospitals all over the country are COMPLETELY federal. Funding for suicidality has been a big priority (same as raising awareness for male survivors of sexual assault). You are just showing that you don’t actually research this stuff and don’t care about THE MANY organizations that are trying to aid men’s issues. Heck I just gave a presentation the other day at an all men’s substance abuse outpatient center. Instead of being combative, why not start doing more resea…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 10:32 PM
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A) I believe women can be toxic just like I believe men can. Shitty people exist. No one is saying otherwise. But the issue is you see it as a gender issue as opposed to learning how to avoid toxic traits in general. B) why did you ignore what I said about actual solutions? You just skipped to “dating advice” you would give. You missed the point entirely in psychological work. C) I don’t think you understand how healthcare funding works and who decides what gets funded. I will say, please do not…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 09:40 PM
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Of course, hope it was helpful in some way (if even just seeing a different perspective exists). Dm if you want to talk about any of it or have questions, it’s interesting stuff
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 09:14 PM
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Yes, exactly! Thank you for the great addition! Side note: a lot of research with veterans also finds that physical exercise is one of the best coping methods for certain issues like treating substance abuse and relapse prevention. Being out doors and moving works wonders!
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 08:14 PM
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I mean, I would be super depressed and angry too if all I believed is that the world is bad and everyone in it is out to hurt you and use you for their own benefit. But that’s not reality, however it has been YOUR reality. Often if people are never shown genuine love and affection from care givers growing up or they never see their parents model what a healthy relationship looks like, they don’t believe it exists (which makes sense, they’ve never seen it!). There are both men and women who don’t…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 08:10 PM
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Most of the answers here say yes they would call it out, and the they go on to note that they just haven’t needed to because they have not seen it in their groups. What kind of answers were you expecting that would be satisfying to you and not pushing sone ideology?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 07:58 PM
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I see you often arguing points that are pro-RP. I’m wondering what you get out of posting here? Most of men’s issues that RP targets are social and psychological - not political. However, politics and media tend to get involved and exploit the feelings of individuals to sway whatever there own agenda is. I think you are angry at capitalism and the drive to make money off of individuals no matter the cost - which involves pushing insecurities and offering to sell a solution. The real solutions in…
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 07:51 PM
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RP encourages manipulating, using, and dehumanizing others for one’s own pleasure at the cost of harming someone else. The teachings are unethical and immoral. Healthy people don’t like supporting something that calls to harm others for personal benefit. That is a narcissistic trait. Does that make sense or you still do not see why people are unsupportive of RP?
/r/ExRedPill12/09/22 06:58 PM
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I couldn’t tell from your comment, just sounded like it in context. My mistake, I’m glad that you know FDS is not representative of average/most women.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:31 PM
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You don’t see it as a problem. You perceive women being harassed as some kind of privilege. You don’t understand the detrimental mental health effects of being objectified so you think it is positive because society values your merit based efforts of success while portraying women as something only worth their flesh. Just because you have not gone through it doesn’t mean you are incapable of understanding women’s point of view. Practice some empathy and believe what people are saying about their…
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 09:08 PM
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FDS is mostly hurt and bitter women. It’s like the RP equivalent for women. Thinking FDS represents the average woman is your first mistake.
/r/ExRedPill07/09/22 08:59 PM
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I know it seems like it’s everywhere, but keep in mind that only seems to be true online (and sometimes you might hear teens saying stuff like that because they’re still immature). Online, the hurt and immature voices are often the loudest and they’re shit gets spread because it’s so taboo. When you look at normal couples everywhere out in the real world, height doesn’t seem to matter much. Plus, anyone who values height that much is probably shallow. It’s the equivalent of a teenage boy saying …
/r/ExRedPill05/09/22 04:57 AM
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OP please for the love of God, I beg you not to believe that FDS is representative of real, healthy women. Saying FDL is how women date is the same as saying RP is how men date. No. It’s only how the very immature, hurt, misinformed people are attempting to date. Please understand this.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 09:17 PM
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Why are you on this sub? You are reciting redpill rhetoric. This just is not a true fact, stop spreading it.
/r/ExRedPill02/09/22 09:10 PM
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Op, listen to this comment. You deny that other older women should end their lives, yet you are an exception to that somehow and you should? You lack self worth, and the thought of ending your life is easier than the thought of all the things you need to do to make yourself feel like you have worth (this is depressing/pessimism talking). Think about your school. Think of why you have interest in neuropsychology and all the cool things you can accomplish for yourself with it! What else do you wan…
/r/ExRedPill01/09/22 11:47 PM
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Hmmm, I think what stands out to me as the most detrimental is the misinformation that gets spread; Scientific studies are often misinterpreted and the data/results are cherry picked to fit unsupported narratives. It’s difficult to educate people when there is conflicting information and most individuals lack the skill set to analyze research methodology and generalizability. Predatory recruiters for ideologies like these know this and abuse the lack of knowledge these young boys/men have while …
/r/ExRedPill26/08/22 06:58 PM
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I casted my vote as “see results” because I’m a lurker here and don’t consider myself exredpill or any pill for that matter. I have a graduate level degree in Clinical Psychology and my career is focused on clinical/pharmacological research for certain mental health disorders. Subs like this are fascinating to me; I see a lot of broken people just trying to find their way in life but many do not know where to begin/how.
/r/ExRedPill25/08/22 06:26 PM
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Interesting perspective, Mr. OkPerspective. Personally, I believe it’s driven more by social constructs and the individual’s environment rather than a biological reproductive instinct, but I definitely agree with them not finding more meaning to their lives/actions. Example: If a person’s group of friends thinks having multiple parter’s is cool and makes you more desirable (common amongst teens), they will also value that trait. However, if a person’s friend group values commitment and impulse c…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 08:17 PM
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I appreciate that you noted the “perceived majority”, because our perceptions, whether true or not, guide our thoughts and actions. I see what you mean about redpilliars. Red pill reminds me of kids in elementary school who desperately want to be cool and do things because they think it’s what the cool kids are doing rather than doing what they actually enjoy and is best for them. Like why behave in a way that you do not agree with to sleep with people who you do not like/respect? That adds noth…
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 07:24 PM
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Why do you speak like every woman is the same person?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/22 06:23 PM
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