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"The only way to win is to not give a fuck if you lose" But what I'd the newb in question sucks? Then they should give a fuck if they lose, yes? Otherwise how will they get better...
/r/seduction04/04/24 01:16 AM
1

"Stay away from self deprecating humor" Break that one down as if I were a newb. It's a good point. But why, is the question? Why, must guys (who don't know how to deploy it properly) avoid self-depreciating humor...
/r/seduction03/04/24 10:16 PM
2

He isn't. That's the thing. And if I were to say he was, it's just because I'm being a player hater. Something I never got used to in the game, was competition. I absolutely detest the notion that there could be a dude out there who is better at getting women (or is learning faster and making more leeway than I did in the beginner stage).
/r/seduction01/04/24 12:21 PM
4

Yeah, lay off of the apps. The returns are asymmetrical. A guy who is a 10 may slay the pussy on dating apps, but the pussy he is slaying is criminally below his league (7s, 6s, 5s, 4s). But he just lies to himself, and then comes on this sub or on forums like it, and lies to us that the results he is netting from dating apps are 8's, 9's, and 10's like he is. Quit wasting so much time thinking about this shit and bracing for failure and just get out there and do it. Get out there and approach. …
/r/seduction01/04/24 01:53 AM
7

You know what man. You are going to be a hell of a seducer. I can tell by these field reports alone that you are about the business. I still don't like you. And there are times when I see these reports that I so badly want to verbally destroy you and paint you as a liar. But the fact of the matter is, you are putting in the work. You are earning it. And for that I say, respect.
/r/seduction01/04/24 01:45 AM
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GODDAMMIT THIS COMMENT IS OUTSTANDING!!! I WOULD UPVOTE YOU TWICE IF I COULD!!!!!!!!!
/r/seduction22/03/24 02:52 AM
9

I am away from this sub for long periods of time. I think to myself occasionally, "I ought to hit up Seddit, maybe the cringe and keyboard seducer posts wont be so bad". It is, really bad. 💀💀 Fuck me. Fuck me for thinking shit would improve while I was gone.
/r/seduction20/03/24 06:22 PM
1

Here's the thing about teaching this stuff man (which you seem to be very eager to do despite only been practicing seduction/PUA for 6 to 8 months based). You are going to have to repeat stuff you have already said, over and over and over again. Ad nauseum. It's one of the reasons as to why I don't frequent this sub so much these days> it gets so repetitive and so frustrating despite the fact that people who ask this same shit over and over can clearly see that it has been asked before in this s…
/r/seduction11/03/24 03:42 PM
1

They kinda do though. You say the wrong thing or say it with the wrong tone of voice the chick could get bored and want to exit the conversation. The social ineptitude of many men who are newbs would surprise you. I once was coaching a guy who one time when we were out told a girl that he had a past history of women in his social circle mistaking him for being gay 🫣🤦‍♂️
/r/seduction11/03/24 01:12 PM
13

"I am willing to lose her if not because I'm personally not comfortable with a constant chase." No you arent willing to lose her. Your problem is that you are thinking right now that you still need to be following a script or a routine instead of just going with the flow. You are conserned you messed up somewhere. You did. The second and third date when she offered to pay, you should have let her. But that doesnt matter you got laid. Go with the flow, your foot is in the door. Stop trying to ove…
/r/seduction05/03/24 03:21 AM
1

How about get into yourself and not give anymore dating advice. 👍? 👍.
/r/seduction04/03/24 03:03 PM
-2

Here's the thing, most guys only know extremes. They either want you as a girlfriend or they want to just have one night and then move on. "I dont know if I should just ask a guy flat out if he wants to just be fwb, bc I feel like no guys would like that." Most guys there days are pussies and either won't or can't make the move to get you to want to sleep with them. So if you are wanting a high close rate you'll need to lead the interactions up to (and in some cases into) sleeping with one anoth…
/r/seduction29/02/24 11:50 AM
5

Dude, she wants dick. Get over it...
/r/seduction29/02/24 11:45 AM
12

Sorry dude but I think you need to stick with learning and honing the craft and maybe shelf the whole idea of teaching it. At least for the time being. Because this post is a bit disorganized.
/r/seduction27/02/24 01:08 PM
1

The dating website Girlschase has articles about getting better with conversation and dealing with anxiety.
/r/seduction25/02/24 11:48 PM
5

"Any recommendations on what I can do for a good third date and to initiate her coming to my house or me going to hers without making it seem like a hookup?" Dinner date at your place or her place.
/r/seduction25/02/24 11:46 PM
2

No. .
/r/seduction25/02/24 11:46 PM
2

Girlschase. Im on the spectrum and have been reading them for 12 years. Great advice. They arent in it for [just] the money. And the creator of the website is about the life. Even after something like 15 or 16 years of running it he still 100%. What I like about them most is that they are honest. They dont lie to you and tell you that its going to be easy getting from A to B with getting better with women. Because it isnt easy. I consider most everyone else who arent them (with exception of the …
/r/seduction25/02/24 11:41 PM
1

Yes. I'd be pulling out and 100 miles away before she could ever even think to sink her claws into me, though...
/r/seduction18/02/24 12:13 PM
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No.
/r/seduction10/02/24 05:26 AM
0

Girlschase
/r/seduction09/02/24 05:00 AM
1

"And often this fear will have far more to do with you and your history than it could ever have to do with her." Not always. For example discovering that a girl is a titanic ho can cause a man fear which is clearly influenced by the girl herself and her...life choices.
/r/seduction06/02/24 01:33 AM
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"I’d rather be loved by a 4 who will treat me like a god," Calling bullshit on that one life isn't so black and white. An 8 can easily be that. And one that fits thst bill is out there.
/r/seduction06/02/24 01:31 AM
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"However, I just don't feel high value in the way I have in the past, before I had what I have now. " Sounds to me like you have plateau'd mentally... Remember you want to stand out from other great guys. Not mirror them... Also keep in mind that we are living in "the age of the fuckboy". Men who are safer options aren't going to be seen as that sexy in a dating market like this one (where it's a buyers market for women because of an abundance of high quality available men). My point? You throwi…
/r/seduction05/02/24 01:08 PM
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"An abundance mindset is developed by internalizing the idea that no matter what happens with any woman you are dating, that you will be able to attract one of equal or higher quality. This can be ensured by your continuous self improvement and development." This^
/r/seduction05/02/24 12:57 PM
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Im going to respond to this one with a big with a big 10/4 and a big No Shit
/r/seduction05/02/24 05:53 AM
1

"Do you think women want such men?" The one who do, they want the drama and the power more than the men themselves. Any chick that I got from "hijacking her" from another guy ended up being nothing but trouble. (Daddy issues. Likes to argue constantly. Her life is a mess. Her family wants nothing to do with her because all she causes is chaos). For real man. The nightlife in whatever city you are in sounds toxic. Nightlife isn't the only way in the world to meet women. Taking other men's women b…
/r/seduction05/02/24 05:42 AM
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While I do agree with pebblebeach, my internet bullshit meter tells me that he is telling the truth. Trust me I know. I been lurking the Internet since the Google Answers days (2002).
/r/seduction04/02/24 11:42 PM
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I mean you could ditch bars man and just meet girls out during the day time. It'll be tougher, but it will also discouragd the meat heads as well. As most men are too pussy to even approach and talk to women in the daytime, much less try to hijack someone's seduction.
/r/seduction04/02/24 11:38 PM
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They do it because they think they can.
/r/seduction04/02/24 10:39 PM
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Ok butthurt keyboard seducer.
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:54 PM
1

Eating tends to make people tired afterward. People who are tired tend to not want to do things. That includes sex. What does that mean? You just introduced an excuse that a girl can lean on to not go back to your place [and have sex]. Alternative? Coffee date. Why? Its cheaper. Coffee can be an aphrodesiac for many people. And blah blahblah
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:17 AM
1

There is nothing to "get" about it. Its bad strategy.
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:14 AM
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"Deleted and remade my profile tried a different tactic long story short we are going out Thursday." Great. And?
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:14 AM
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Thats great. Hope you slip it inside of her pretty quickly because women who are forward like that do not like to wait for it. Dont care how much she pretends not to like sex. Thats just a defense to avoid being slut shamed.
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:13 AM
1

Hmmmm. Yeah Im asking because there's people here who will want to learn from your success story. So specific details of what you did to get their would be great...
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:11 AM
1

"you at least said something to her and that’s a win in itself" Ah so you used baby steps to work up to this point. What baby steps did you use?
/r/seduction29/01/24 03:40 AM
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Can you lie though? I ask because most men whether newbs or not, their lies fall apart under any scrutiny from a woman. When put up against most women's ability to detect lie's, most men cant lie for shit. And trust me most women with experience are sniffing for incongruency, inconsistensy, and lies (no matter how big or small) from men they just met. Why? This sub. This scene, the PUA bro's on Youtube, and websites like Girlschase that post articles giving dating advice; they dont exist in vacu…
/r/seduction29/01/24 02:43 AM
0

"But I need the motivation if this is the right move? Any tips on how to go full throttle instead of moving there and just doing my usual solo things where I am anxious about approaching or doing different things." Its the same shit dude it really is. Except instead of the urban sprawl of LA everything is packed together like sardines in a crushed tin box. You wont be any happier there. My advice would be to move to a city in the center of the country (like Chicago or Dallas-Fort Worth), live cl…
/r/seduction29/01/24 01:40 AM
1

What made you change your mind about the Game?
/r/seduction29/01/24 01:21 AM
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👍
/r/seduction21/01/24 08:07 AM
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Did you notice how she just stopped replying when you took this as an opportunity to not-so-humble brag about your sex life? Hope you don't do that shit with women irl.
/r/seduction21/01/24 07:43 AM
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Gold
/r/seduction21/01/24 07:39 AM
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"1.Stop caring so much, women can smell desperation" Gold "2. Don't be an annoying nice guy. Don't be a fake asshole." Unpack that. "3. Be yourself, if she doesnt like you for who you are, shes not worth any work" Garbage. If "yourself" sucks, you need to improve. "5. The more women you try it with the better chances do you have. Women are all different and the more you talk to them the more you will learn. Maybe she already likes a guy. Maybe she has a bad day. Its not always your fault if she …
/r/seduction26/12/23 11:01 PM
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"It's actually driving them insane that I'm not interested. And have made this very clear." What makes you think this, playa?
/r/seduction19/12/23 12:52 AM
4

"Almost everyday I forget that I'm actually on a dating app." Then why are you even on it in the first place? I mean I realize its doesnt cost anything to sign up. But still man, if you truly dont care about dms and notifications on Bumble or wherever, why think about it or bring it up. "I'm happy about that because I look at subs like this and see tons of posts with guys being so distraught about how bad they're doing or how bad a particular girl treated them on an app, whereas those kinds of t…
/r/seduction17/12/23 07:05 PM
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"And I'm like bro wtf you're doing. When I get rejected the girls will literally encourage me to approach other chicks. And thats how you get out of every approach super easy. If you run high volume like me this is literally what lets me keep doing approaches." You kinda veered off abit with all of that. Still, I think your reply to rejection is gold. Especially if you can deliver it in a way that is comical and or shows that you aren't to negatively affected by the rejection.
/r/seduction16/12/23 04:21 PM
1

OK, and?
/r/seduction08/12/23 02:39 PM
1

"The reason I am mentioning her in this post is because she'd be a good fuck for this Destination Wedding of my friend." When women friendzone you, but fuck another guy, the reasons behind her making that decisions, and the way she views you to cause her to friendzone you, doesnt change or go away. Dude, you could this guy now (from self improvement and deep immersion in seduction and PUA mindset): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6968210/mediaviewer/rm317794304/?ref_=tt_ov_i And you could have look…
/r/seduction15/11/23 08:51 AM
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Sure kid. Ill maybe drop the 0 to 10 scale. Maybe...
/r/seduction02/11/23 08:44 AM
-5

Sure, simp.
/r/seduction21/10/23 05:41 AM
-16

Sure, simp.
/r/seduction21/10/23 05:29 AM
-18

Well Jeb, let's examine the variables here to really get a good understanding of who is the simp. There's me, whom may have a 3 inch dick (not 2 inches, get your facts straight) but just has to pick up the phone and send a text or 2 to get some pussy. And then there's you. Probably average size. 5 to 6 inches. And the closest you are getting to any snatch tonight or ever is by stealing yuhr ma's knickers from the dirty clothes bin and ************ into them. So the lesson here Timmy is that the …
/r/seduction21/10/23 05:12 AM
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Should have persisted. Girls from clubs are not the types who will give you a second chance if you didn't slip them the Burmese Python when you had the first chance.
/r/seduction21/10/23 04:17 AM
81

Goddamit stop that shit now bros! And let her watch your boner grow on social media! Nah but for real, gold words man.
/r/seduction16/10/23 10:51 PM
1

"My counter advice to this would be don't move on. Fight it, get hurt, get humiliated, she flaked, ghosted? It doesn't matter. Fuck your ego." FUCKIN A!!!
/r/seduction06/10/23 06:36 AM
1

😎 story
/r/seduction20/09/23 11:40 AM
1

Good, use it.
/r/seduction06/09/23 03:11 AM
2

Your way off the mark man. Girls that are mildly interested, they can be slept with if you handle the seduction of them well. Finding girls that like you is half the battle. How you handle yourself once your foot is in the door plays a big part too. You just so happened to handle it in a way that didn't dry up her pussy. Congrats kid. You figured out an aspect of a way way larger picture. This is great. However that by no means makes you an expert in the field of seduction. So don't speak like y…
/r/seduction01/09/23 07:30 PM
2

So a person who is terrible with women should practice no game? Ok, then so not thinking at all will fix everything? Just chill? Bra you dont have jack shit figured out yourself it seems like. And if you do you need to break that shit down because "ya'll think too much and chill too litte" doesnt explain a fucking to the men here who are struggling with women.
/r/seduction01/09/23 02:19 PM
1

"But I still see guys with girls walking outside, in the mall, in parks... like did seriously every single guy with a gf study game?" Terrible game in men, is highly prevalent. But not as prevalent as people from this sub, people from the manosphere, and people from seduction forums like to make it out to be. "Or were they magically born with all of this knowledge and confidence?" People still believe it or not know how to find a partner. Be them the frat couples you see around college campus's,…
/r/seduction01/09/23 02:17 PM
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Pursuing isnt a really good word. Go for persisting. You dont want to chase women it doesnt look good to them. "Most girls needs regular attention from the man she is dating, if you are not giving enough attention she will give up and find another man that gives her the attention and validation she needs." Yes but not over attention. You dont want to be trying to get her affection with constant attention. Dont want to put her shit above yours. "There is a belief that you need to act uninterested…
/r/seduction11/08/23 11:49 AM
1

Forget about it. OP is just another newb fabricating shit to seem smart.
/r/seduction04/08/23 03:40 PM
1

So dumb
/r/seduction04/08/23 03:39 PM
1

Here is the equivalent of what you said: Cheese is bad because cigarettes have nicotene. 🤦
/r/seduction03/08/23 06:54 AM
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OP is cap. And judging by the way he frequently trashes the men he claims to teach in this sub, I don't think he really even is out there like that approaching anyone. People who are good at this shit and really do have success with women (real success) don't shit on inexperienced guys. This dude is probably as trash if not moreso than the men here that he throws that label as. He's a keyboard seducer/pickup artist.
/r/seduction19/07/23 01:03 PM
3

Sure thing, keyboard dating coach
/r/seduction19/07/23 12:47 PM
1

Glad you finally figured this out, kid.
/r/seduction18/07/23 03:11 AM
1

Fatcs
/r/seduction17/07/23 02:47 AM
0

You don't owe anyone anything and if you're able to get with the ones you really want, what benefit is there to sleeping with women you're not that interested in? Bullfuckingshit he owes me to sleep with strictly landwhales so that I can keep all the hotties for myself! /s
/r/seduction15/07/23 01:18 AM
1

"My main question is about do you smash less than ideal chicks?" No but you should. Less competition for me. Now put on some goddamn beer goggles and get out there and have some fun!!!! 😉
/r/seduction15/07/23 01:16 AM
3

Or we could just set up a date with her, as ultimately we want to interact with her in person anyway. Right? As opposed to expending a lot of energy on her via text without actively shooting towards an end goal (of spending time with her in person).
/r/seduction28/06/23 06:17 AM
1

👍
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:41 PM
1

Worn out condom.
/r/seduction11/10/22 02:39 PM
3

"How do I know if a girl holding eye contact is interested in me, or is just interested in the conversation we are having" Simple. The way it feels. You can literally feel her looking at you way longer than what you are used to. If she's a bit inexperienced or socially awkward it may even have you thinking to yourself, "dafuq's her problem!?"
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:43 PM
2

This sounds like bullshit from the title alone. EDIT: So upon reading that id say you got some good points that are pretty funny. That being said im not reading all of that shit. Good-day
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:34 PM
3

Oh worse than that much worse. You wrent just not showing sexual interest early on, you are giving off signals to women that you have effeminate traits. So much so that they are assuming you arent in the market for them. Theres levels to this shit. You can be so boring that and not sexual that women around you see you as a brother, platonic friend, or not see you at all because you are invisible to them. You can be too sexual to early on when it is unwarranted and it makes you come off as a cree…
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:30 PM
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You are loosing track of the goal. Its to get into a girls pants to then either keep getting into her pants, or to make her your girlfriend (and keep getting into her pants too). Never go too retard. Never go too funny. It will turn you into a court jester in a potential girls eyes. No bueno. Too funny means you are trying hard, to entertain. But irregardless, you are trying hard. You are like a clown. You so funny you dont have sex appeal to women. Not good. Need to walk it back a lot and focus…
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:19 PM
1

Not really it just causes you to be lumprd in to the 1000s of other disposable simps trying to get her attention.
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:12 PM
1

Its fine. You dont want to go into yours or hers life story all in text before a date anyway it will rob you and her of anything to talk about
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:10 PM
8

Nah. This shit isnt binary. You need to be working on yourself and learning to socialize and talk to women.
/r/seduction10/10/22 12:07 PM
2

"Conclusion - Now im two dates in with this girl and Im getting worried because my friends said if I dont make some sort of move by the next one shes going to friend zone me" Im sorry bra I didnt read all that. Here's what I think. I think you fvcked up by not sleeping with her the day or night that you first kissed her.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:40 AM
5

EDITED: Look I"ll just say this: I cant feel this advice because it doesnt seem genuine nor like it was earned from experience. Maybe revamp it and string your ideas together better so that they are helpful because I am just not feeling this.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:30 AM
1

Didnt help me worth a shit. It was 4 years after that movie released before I first lost my virginity. And another 6 years after that before I began to experience the level of success [sex] with women that I really wanted.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:24 AM
1

​ Ok and I understand that. But realize that sex is sex. There is no rule in the book that says that you have to reveal how or where you got it from or if you paid for it or not. To anyone. Think about it. "I could really use a push in the right direction" Touch them. Touch a girl when you speak to her. Touch their hips. Touch the small of their back. Touch their hair. Touch their hands. Heck if you are adventurous, touch their stomach. What have you got to lose? Nothing. Because you are gaining…
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:19 AM
1

Its going to be rejection. But you keep doing it. Not only until you dont get rejected, but until you are no longer afraid.
/r/seduction09/10/22 06:13 AM
3

Yeah just let her come to you. I mean, when she shows you attention definately show her attention too. But never show her any more attention than she shows you.
/r/seduction08/10/22 06:17 PM
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"Took a break from this place for a while and having come back I remember why I left." If you arent enjoying this forum, then by all means fuck off. Seriously dude. Trashing the locals here, however annoying they may objectively be, is quite low. And honestly it just looks as if you are doing it to gain social points. Which is pretty sad considering we are on reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/xxeury/ive_got_this_feeling_most_of_the_people_here_dont/ircqq0b/?context=3
/r/seduction08/10/22 06:08 PM
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Thanks for breaking it down and going meta with it, and being realistic ("study this and that or watch this and that but put in the work too" that is not said enough here). This is what good advice looks like. 🏆
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:56 PM
1

Okay so wtf is the difference between this and what I am saying again, besides me being blunt as he'll obviously?
/r/seduction08/10/22 02:33 PM
0

Ok bud
/r/seduction07/10/22 09:19 AM
1

Heres a video on how to stop overthinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08s8X8x8I8x86ots Heres a video on a video about how to stop overthinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08s8X889&%$83948x8I8x86ots Heres a video on a video on a video about how to stop overthinking. https://www.youtube.com./watch?v=08s08xx88s00xX%%%8181818M&M&M&MYourAreFullOfIt Heres a video on a video on a video on a video about how to stop overthinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8r-tXRLazs
/r/seduction07/10/22 06:59 AM
1

"Do you push through those "tests" and keep escalating even if shes dull faced after she looks at you hard and smiles?" If you fucking suck at escalating, then absolutely. How else are you going to learn where the line is if you dont cross it?
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:50 AM
0

English please. When teaching people avoid falling back to jargon that you may use with whatever crowd you identify with. As people outside that particular crowd dont generally give a flying fuck about said jargon or "inside lingo".
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:48 AM
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Move on you've already lost her. It doesnt take 2 weeks to get a girl to be attracted to you. Likely she was into you within the first few minutes of meeting you. But you bored her by just talking and talking and talking and talking (worse yet about boring banal shit) but making no move whatsoever At this point she sees you as nothing more than an asexual object, a unic. Move on before she ghosts you alltogether and causes you to feel really bad. And the next chick you like; find some why to get…
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:45 AM
0

👍
/r/seduction07/10/22 05:26 AM
-8

Omg cringe
/r/seduction07/10/22 04:36 AM
0

So, instead of maybe contributing what you yourself have learned so far about social circle to those here who dont know, its better to just shit on the locals here? Truth be told it doesnt really seem like you have much (if anything) figured out yourself. But hey, cool story bro, you've got it all figured out! You dont need us. 😭
/r/seduction07/10/22 01:18 AM
6

I'd say game. There are men who have nothing who have no issues bedding and dating women. Yet there are high status men who have to literally bribe women to sleep with them. Riddle me this if women were automatically attracted to high status men, then why did Harvey Weinstein have to resort to all sorts of crazy scandalous and pervy shit just to get some pussy?
/r/seduction27/09/22 11:42 AM
2

Whether or not that is true is besides the point and is simply an excuse for "most" men not to try. And that is why I think it is bullshit.
/r/seduction25/09/22 03:13 AM
1

Look bra im just going to copy and paste something I already said to someone else, as I feel that that comment more than addresses your comment here: other dude="He's right, most men are seen as unattractive to women now". They arent even putting themselves out there to be harshly rejected because they have no social skills or dress and act unsexy."
/r/seduction25/09/22 03:11 AM
2

Id go as far to say that most men are invisible to women nowadays. Because most men keep to themselves and never approach. Heck many never even leave the house. They just hide in their parents basement, play video games, beat off to porn, and or (and this is far worse than porn) pay some chick on only fans to do less than a mediocre job of satisfying some bullshit fantasy in his head that she is his girlfriend. But no what he said and how he said it, that "women are not attracted to most men". T…
/r/seduction25/09/22 03:01 AM
4

Well dude you may need to learn to do it. Tell me something: Would it really be that bad if you went as far as having children with a smoking hot perfect 10 who cooks, cleans, worships you, isnt brainwashed by mainstream media, and maintains a rockin body well into old age but that you "just dont feel that burning desire for?" Because at this point I think that you should put "true love" aside as its obviously holding you back. But in all honesty I think that for any man or any age; if the chick…
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:30 PM
44

Thats definately a load of shit
/r/seduction24/09/22 08:16 PM
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It's not rocket science, you need to quit chasing her otherwise you are going to lose her. ...If I were you I would not only hang onto those other 2 girls you are fucking, id keep fucking them. It would be different if she didn't have other guys fucking, but she does. AND IT DOESNT SOUND AS IF SHE'S GOING TO STOP FUCKING THEM JUST FOR YOU. So just take it easy and realize that she probably has this type of affect on all the men she sleeps with. Which means she is a female Fatale. Which makes her…
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:12 PM
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"I feel like once you do it once you just look back and think “damn that’s all I had to do?” Don’t overcomplicate it guys" I feel like you don't really have jack shit figured out. That was either blind luck or you are just a natural at approaching who needed to push yourself a bit. Congrats but that doesn't help those in the sub who need help with anything.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:05 PM
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If you don't need the advice then don't waste time posting.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:02 PM
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This sub is a bunch of people trying to give advice on shit they have probably never even tested out in the field once. And it's a bunch more people actually falling for it and having extensive debates about it.
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:01 PM
1

Ok so I should take the advice of an 20 year old who doesn't know shit and is just talking out his ass? Bet. /s
/r/seduction23/09/22 02:00 PM
1

I' 'really' 'dont' care'. ' ​ ​ Oh and by the way: '
/r/seduction23/09/22 01:03 AM
1

Game them both don't get oneitis and be stuck on just one. See if you can't get them out for coffee and then back to your dorm or something not to shortly after. Don't play it safe don't be a nice guy. It's college, your goal here is to fuck either one or both of them. And do hurry. Women don't stay open forever. Lastly, don't get caught up in your own head trying to figure out whether or not they are attracted to you or like you. If they are friendly=they are attracted to you. If they are back …
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:32 AM
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No shit
/r/seduction22/09/22 04:19 AM
0

So I, if I beat the chick to a pulp like Tyson then I will win her? Wow thats profound. /s Seduction is a dance not a war or power struggle. But if it really does feel like a war or power struggle to you; then firstly you need to fix whatever is causing you to be attracted to that type of behavior. Then you need to work on not attracting chick's like that.
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:22 AM
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Cool story bro do you have some advice that is actually based on lived experience and isn't pulled out of the abstract?
/r/seduction22/09/22 02:17 AM
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My advice for you? Save a bunch of paychecks from work and then go to a University. One with a lot of pussy. And join a fraternity. That will give you axcess to tons of women. Healthy women. With potential drinking problems (but thats a simple fix, you just sleep with them and move on). DONT go to somewhere like Miami to meet women. Because there you will be just as dry with your lovelife in Miami that you are in Montana or wherever you are. Those women in Miami are leeches covered in glitter an…
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:40 PM
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"Unfortunately I have been flirting back with her a bit, thinking with my dick 100%" Appearantly not. More like thinking with your dick 50%. If you were truly thinking with your dick 100% then you would have slept with her irregardless of whether or not you like her. Is she cute? Is she fuckable? If both of those are yes then arrange things to where you get into the sack with her. Sex and love isnt always going to be available to you in life. And this is even if you are a true catch with women. …
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:19 PM
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If you go to a bar, make sure you sit AT the bar and not a table off in the corner somewhere. Chicks notice shit like that and it will turn them off to you if you are sitting there alone in a corner all weird and shit and then decide to go up and approach them. It portrays what is called "negative social proof". Which will hurt you with women.
/r/seduction17/09/22 07:14 PM
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Maybe Im just the grumpy 34 year old in here, but I feel like Im being lectured by a 20 year old who is talking out his ass.
/r/seduction12/09/22 12:24 PM
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There is a lot of "armchair quarterbacking" in the seduction community. Most of the people who give advice on here have almost no experience in the field and have gained their knowledge of seduction solely from studying other people's observations [blogs, books, dating advice websites, etc] about it. And even then, most don't even bother to learn this shit from study. They just give bullshiy advice that they pulled out of their ass.
/r/seduction22/07/22 12:39 AM
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"I am pretty attractive, a LOT more attractive than her actual boyfriend." Perhaps, but he moved quicker with her and didnt miss open invitation windows for intimacy. Judging by what little you told me it sounds as if you did. So thats why you lost out on her. "So the question is, why is she giving me signs that she may be intrested but at the same time she gives me signs that she's unintrested?" She's keeping you in her back pocket in case shit doesnt work out with her less attractive than you …
/r/seduction08/07/22 08:46 PM
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"Edit: thought I should also say, playing games like this with girls early on can be good to maybe spark some interest but if you keep on doing shit like this they will get sick of it and dump you. Learned that the hard way when I was younger." Or, if they've liked you all along but are maintaining a poker face, then you risk overgaming a girl who was already into you.
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:25 PM
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"I believe that the easiest way to get a girl to like you is to have them think about you as often as possible when you’re not with her." No shit. Where dudes get the idea that you can win a girl over without trying to get in her head is beyond me?
/r/seduction07/07/22 11:22 PM
1

I go to bars and clubs to network and socialize with other powerful men. I want to pick up women I can just visit book stores, coffee shops, Whole Foods, the Park, or Target.
/r/seduction21/06/22 10:51 PM
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She's more than likely telling the truth. Lot of average men out there in the world. And if someone is average in life, why wouldnt they be just average in bed too.
/r/seduction21/06/22 10:49 PM
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Ah, dating apps. You figured it all out then huh? You figured out how to land the 3s, 4s, and 5s that all men are fighting over on dating aps. You learned how to get the low hanging fruit. Congrats. Because that is what is on dating apps. Quite bluntely, you dont know, and havent mastered, jack shit.
/r/seduction16/06/22 11:51 PM
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No one in America really respects anything they arent attracted to. Seems like we are at a point in this country where less and less people are able to tolerate things and people we dont like.
/r/seduction16/06/22 11:40 PM
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Sounds like your sources were maybe not that great. check out girlschase.com I've been reading them for 9 years. No I dont write for them. I wish I did.
/r/seduction06/06/22 12:20 PM
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Nothing wrong with feeling that way. Especially if its a girl you want to get serious with, know what I mean? Both women and men who have had a lot of sexual partners tend to have higher chances of being unfaithful. I myself, when I am date girls do not like to be with women who have been with too many men.
/r/seduction05/06/22 12:31 AM
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Its technically mens fault too. We as men tend to be attracted to what we beat off too. When Bangbros came onto the scene in 2004/05 and all of a sudden you are seeing white women with average or even weird looking faces but with legs, asses, and boobs which are abnormally large and muscular given their race (*cough Sara Jay); then of course life is going to begin imitating art and men are going to gravitate towards women like this. I have a theory that we as men approach what we beat off too. A…
/r/seduction04/06/22 04:08 AM
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I’ve thought about that a few times but never really had an opportunity. Just nervous about the career repercussions. I know it comes at a shock but dudes like that dont really want a career woman. So, step carefully for your job definately. But for your career, if dating him stops you from moving up in the company, then so what. As ideally you would want to marry and settle down with him anyway, right? Kinda hard to have a family when both the husband and wife are at CEO level.
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:46 AM
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Thanks for wasting my fucking time!
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:40 AM
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Well for starters you are probably literally approaching them in a way that frames you as "chasing them". Women dont give it up (straight away, if at all) to men who chase. What do I mean? You see her on the street. You cross the street and then walk very quickly just to catch up to her. You match her pace but struggle a bit to keep up because your heart rate is elevated due to the fact that you are trying to spit game to a girl while you are nervous and after you have just walked very briskly j…
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:27 AM
1

Oh ok. Disregard my reply to the other comment then looks like you guys have already talked about his love life.
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:18 AM
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Technically you could circumvent that if you end up drunker then the girls you hit on. Thats how most frats go about picking up drunk chicks.
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:04 AM
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When I was young, I would end up not being able to sleep with a girl due to disgust if I found out that she was a slut before sleeping with her. Ive changed though. I can see the beauty in all women I'm attracted to even if they've been with a lot of men. I STILL wont go down on women whom have weird or nasty looking pussies or who I've known for a fact have been with an alarming amount of men for her age, but yeah I'll screw any girl I find attractive these days. Edit: Learn to be less picky. A…
/r/seduction04/06/22 03:01 AM
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Good deal. Its 20:52 here right now. Best to start early in the club. Bitches get sloppier the later it is in the night.
/r/seduction04/06/22 02:53 AM
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"But, I am not really sure if he likes me back and would reject me if I do so." Throw yourself at him. Its the only way something will happen. No offense to most men but most men are pussies these days when it comes to making a move. Even when they like a chick. Do you know anything about his love life? (maybe some hidden girl outside of work that would be causing him to be iffy about making a move on you? I ask because most men of high value have a rotation of women they see behind the scenes).
/r/seduction04/06/22 02:45 AM
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Not foolish, just limiting.
/r/seduction28/05/22 01:13 AM
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Pretty much the same if you were in your teens and 20s. Go out and approach women like mad. Keep a journal of what you think you did wrong or right and detailing each night. Learn from your mistakes. But more than anything, dont stop approaching. Even as the rejections or instances of getting ghosted mounts. \ Important thing to remember, is there is no way to make rejection and social anxiety easier. Stop wasting time online looking for shortcuts. Thats time you could be spending outside gainin…
/r/seduction27/05/22 09:38 PM
1

Whatever helps you sleep at night, stud...
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:41 AM
0

Where though?
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:19 AM
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Whatsup man did that hit a nerve? Have you been one of these tools who lost your girl at a bar or club to a better man than you or something?
/r/seduction26/05/22 05:11 AM
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Dunno. Never been on the receiving end of that. When I was doing the bar scene though when I was young, I'd openly tool other men in front of their female friends/girlfriends/dates just to see if I could de-stablize the connection between them. And surprisingly, 40% of the time it worked! I remember one time a guy was one a date with a fling or girlfriend or something at this bar (whatever they were it seemed like she wasn't ride or die for him, u do this type of stuff enough and you can just te…
/r/seduction26/05/22 04:07 AM
1

If she is fat and just a placeholder, why does it matter?
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:42 AM
10

Where's the guide? So far you haven't told me jack shit...
/r/seduction26/05/22 03:37 AM
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"Approaching is largely a numbers game" Whippty fucking do. What does that mean by the way? Because remember that most of the people who come to seduction are complete newbs with no concept...of well anything related to dating or socializing. So shit must be broken down to meta meta. Otherwise this is just another piece of useless blanket dating advice. "YOU NEED TO KNOW YOUR MAGIC NUMBER" "when that happens you’ll have less reason to be scared or offended by rejections as I said earlier." Utter…
/r/seduction25/05/22 07:16 PM
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A married man can have an abundance mentality. And in reality probably should. Given the current climate of dating and relationships (see Kevin Samuals, Fresh And Fit, Darious M., and other people who cover this ad nauseum, I really dont have time to parrot it). I think your issue is that you have gone too far into the player territory and now women dont see you as a viable long term partner at all. I dont think that abundance mentality really has a whole lot to do with it. There are men out the…
/r/seduction25/05/22 06:57 PM
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A big reason as to why many in the seduction community nay-say against messing around with chicks online is that the ratio of disappointment to actually gaining something positive out of the experience is skewed. You get rejected without even really being rejected, which puts you in a position to where you never really learn how to improve with women. Females dont use Instagram to find dates. They use it to find validation.
/r/seduction25/05/22 07:20 AM
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You communicated with her on Facebook originally, yes? I would stick with that and escalate from there. Facebook is more personal anyways and she is less likely to overlook you within the sea of messages that she is recieving from men on Instagram.
/r/seduction25/05/22 02:37 AM
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"What if I genuinely want to text a lot and lay out all my cards? What ifI want to express my genuine desires? I don't want to hide who I am,and it seems like most dating advice is being someone who you're not." The rules change for you as a man when you are one deemed highly desirable by women. WHen you are a catch with women, you could do all sorts of crazy shit that average men couldnt do or get away with. Including, acting needy. But if you arent there yet, might just want to follow the advi…
/r/seduction25/05/22 02:14 AM
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I wouldnt get to excited over getting a girls Instagram. You just got thrown into a pile with a bunch of other thirsty orbiters who are likely not runner ups at all and arent even in her back pocket. Always grab the number, otherwise disgard her as a girl not to be taken seriously.
/r/seduction25/05/22 02:06 AM
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I really could care less. Seduction isnt one size fit all. A newb could attempt to emulate [what he percieves as being] Pete Davidson's style and it not work at all. Best advice for anyone starting out is to find a good non-biased source for male dating advice, study it, and then go out and approach women. Following the 80/20 rule of course. 80% field work, 20% studying. Besides, it takes years to understand a particular guys style and what makes him great at seducing women. Sure Pete Davidson h…
/r/seduction25/05/22 02:05 AM
1

What if she says no before hand (of all of that)?
/r/seduction23/05/22 08:55 PM
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Ditch the antidepressants and just be batshit crazy dude, and maybe work out a bunch in order to keep your mind sharp. You cant maintain a relationship with a female without [good] sex. This aint Disney. Love isnt unconditional.
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:10 AM
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No one is stopping you. Make the move. Even if you fail miserably. Better than not trying.
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:04 AM
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2 weeks. Dude you should have tried to fuck her at least a week and a half ago. You are being used for a roof over her head. If a woman doesnt put out, she doesnt get to stay with me. Hell, even if she puts out, she still doesnt get to stay with me. I live in a 330 square foot flat and like what little space I have to myself.
/r/seduction21/05/22 03:02 AM
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" I'm a 30 year old dating other women whose needs match mine much more closely and i'm not investing any more time or money." Ok so if that is the case then why is it even an issue of "breaking things off"? Theres nothing going on, you could ignore her texts from then on if you wanted and that would be sufficient. So whats the issue? Let me guess, you want to "punish her" for not sleeping with you early on? First off, thats on you. The "not having sex before the 3rd date" rule is a load of shit…
/r/seduction21/05/22 02:51 AM
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Question: do any of you even realize how this was able to happen? I keep seeing: "Oh she's for the streets, ho's will be ho's, its all her fault, etc" Hint: It wasnt just the chick's or the guy who swooped in's fault...
/r/seduction14/05/22 09:04 PM
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The dude probably is just a bit smoother and has better fundamentals. He liked your date, he moved in and tried to work on her. Sounds like he was succeeding if im honest. What can you do really? If you like a girl, then dont take her on a date somewhere where you know that she could be taken by another guy. That means group dates, house parties, clubs, bars, or out and about with a particular social circle. Would this have happened if you had taken her to IHOP? More than likely not. Would this …
/r/seduction14/05/22 09:01 PM
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"Have fun, first and foremost" Kinda hard when the guy doing this is new and doesnt know how to act or behave in a social situation because he has no social skills "Flirt, be in the moment" How is a beginner supposed to do that when they dont even know how? Flirting takes practice does it not? That is the point of PUA mindets and systems. As silly and toolish as many may be. Its to get them out there and talking to women so that they can reflect and learn from it and then develop into someone wh…
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:55 PM
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"Conversely, a man who comes off a bit disinterested, unsure or skeptical of a woman at first implies to her that he has options, standards, and is not a needy/value seeking type of person." Yes, not always. If she isnt attracted to you it doesnt matter how disinterested you act with her. Her guards going to be up. Social calibration is a must in this game. Otherwise you risk approaching a woman who isnt interested and coming off as an incongruent creep.
/r/seduction20/04/22 04:43 PM
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When I started dating, I attracted nothing but women who were crazy and or chameleon dope fiends. The sex was good but the relationships were horrendous. Know what I did? I figured out what it was in myself which was attracting these types of women to me and I fixed it.
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:03 AM
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Maybe you need to change that. This isnt binary. You arent stuck in life only being able to attract one type of woman. You can work on yourself to attract more women with more stable sexual tendencies.
/r/seduction13/04/22 02:01 AM
1

You have introspective though and an inner critic. This is good for growth.
/r/seduction12/04/22 04:53 AM
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Erm, thats a bit private man as I am going through a bit of a slump in approaching women. My results have been shit lately. One thing they dont tell you in the PUA and Seduction books is that even as a veteran you can have dry spells. You seem like you are enjoying yourself though doing day game and you are committed. I like to hear that. Approaching can be fun if you have the right attitude.
/r/seduction12/04/22 04:52 AM
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Pointing: This business concept applies to men. Stop trying so fucking hard. It’s actually working directly"Point being: This business concept applies to men. Stop trying so fucking hard. It’s actually working directly against you." Look so if you've read any of the content on Girlschase you know about the Law Of Least Effort. And basically in a nutshell its that the men who arent trying hard get best results. Heres the thing. What happens if a dude with no experience, dressed in baggy sloppy cl…
/r/seduction06/04/22 12:08 AM
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Do you even believe half of what your saying? Because I see no conviction in the words in this post. Its good advice. But it sounds like its coming from a kid who thinks he figured out the entire world and cosmos because he bagged his first ever perfect 10 nightclub ho.
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:57 PM
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"I heard that martial arts is a game changer...for some its also lifting\general exercise" Yes it helps but you dont want to get hung up on just that and not work on other things. "my question is what have you done that boosted your confidence a lot?" My personal experience has been that if you can just fake it until you make it, you'll get even farther than if you used something like drugs, alcohol, working out, or martial arts to get you there. Here's why? What happens if you get fat? What hap…
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:53 PM
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Just wait till she texts you. If she doesnt text within 5 days then text her. No I dont know what you should put in the text. Just make sure it doesnt come off as too desperate, but also not too stoic.
/r/seduction05/04/22 11:38 PM
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Yeah definitely if you are an uncalibrated dork. He's dating a ho, thats his business. Let him figure it out.
/r/seduction01/04/22 05:54 AM
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"What’s crazy though is that every first date I’ve had in the last three years, the girl always ended up back at my place" Well good! Thats what you should be striving for. You dont want to wait until date 3 to be getting into a chicks pants. Thats a myth. In fact, that is horseshit.
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:32 AM
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"I can have options, I can have multiple girls to hit up, but i can only ever think about one at a time. Sometimes it switches week to week who that girl is, but regardless it’s only ever one girl" Well, as my grandpa used to say, dont lose your head over one piece of tail. Always make sure you have options with women. Even if you dont want them. What happens if you get oneitis for the wrong one? You never want to make 1 woman the be all end all woman because thats how you end up in a situation …
/r/seduction01/04/22 01:30 AM
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Women are always going to send mixed signals. Even as they are ready to do the deed. If they are already at your place though, make a move irregardless of what signal they are giving you or how much confidence you do or dont have. Even if they reject your advances, if you handle it and dont beg or coerce them, they will likely come back in a day or 2 and escalate things themselves.
/r/seduction31/03/22 06:12 PM
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"because they're so desperate and thirsty that they would never pass on any opportunity to get some pussy, no matter how unattractive, annoying or just uninteresting the offerer of said pussy is." Well yeah, any guy who does this shit knows that you arent always going to get perfect 10s, 9s, 8s, or even 7s all the time. To think otherwise is just magical thinking. Heck, I coined a phrase for it: I call it, unicorn game. Unicorn game is a mindset that mostly affects men with moderate to men with …
/r/seduction29/03/22 10:48 AM
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Should I?
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:24 AM
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"His response was basically that it was more of an in the moment thing for him and in the past, he messed around a lot and was more stressed out having casual sex than sex with someone he has a connection too." Dang, talk about a natural lol! Playa just turned you down! That doesnt typically happen unless a guy has a lot of options (or the ability to create them). Ok so heres what I think. This dude is in serious need of some humbling. He's feeling himself way too much. See if you cant get him t…
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:09 AM
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I think I read that one some years back. That sounds like a Hector Castillo article. Was it? Look Im not knocking your suggestion of using dominance. I just think you need to explain it better. There are a lot of men that come to this sub with zero experience with females (much less socializing). Inexperienced men tend to go "full retard" with dating advice that they are given. "Be dominant" becomes "order a woman around like a lapdog before having even established rapport with her". "Give sexy …
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:01 AM
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Man you are really sticking to your guns on this one! Well, kick ass with it man and be the best at it that you can be. Any kind of pickup and approaches, are better than none at all.
/r/seduction29/03/22 06:51 AM
1

Dude just read this website; www.girlschase.com You are on the right track, but there are some big glaring pieces of the picture that you are missing.
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:13 AM
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Thats a lot of women though. Siren/femme fatale originally meant women who were so persuasive in their sexuality and charm that they literally lead every man they date and or have sex with to either ruin or complete destruction. Is she giving off those types of vibes?
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:09 AM
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Yeah you do. Just approach women in places where you know they wont be with a group of people; like a book store, coffee shop, or the type of grocery stores that attract a lot of hot women (natural food stores, target, Walmarts that arent in a shitty area (good luck finding that lol). Pickup and seduction doesnt have to be a bloodsport. And thats kinda what you are making it with approaching women in groups. I mean its good if you want to learn how to socialize but if you are actually wanting to…
/r/seduction29/03/22 01:07 AM
1

Do you have experience with these types of approaches?
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:51 AM
0

Question do you really want to approach women in groups though? Is that something you want to do? Because in my opinion you dont need to. There are plenty of places you can go where they are alone and not surrounded by people and things which could cock-block you.
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:41 AM
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Ok well how is she a siren because all you really told me is that she is a siren. That doesnt tell me much...
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:33 AM
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"Yo bitch, you are coming back to my place, end of discussion". And then you force her back to your place and force her into sex and its okay because you made the sex good? Uh yeah dude you completely left out approaching, dialogue, deep diving, and then moving her. Good luck dude because you sound as clueless as the people you are trying to give advice to...
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:32 AM
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My advice would be to join a frat. They are generally the most popular people on the campus and you will have such an easier time getting laid and chatting up women than if you just loan wolf it.
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:25 AM
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It seems pretty incomplete if you ask me. Edit: The edit pretty much covers it all. So you are good. Approach but dont chase. Balance it with charm. Solid advice. Good deal!
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:22 AM
1

Follow the leads man. Roll with it and play along even if you are unsure of what you are supposed to do or say.
/r/seduction28/03/22 02:22 AM
1

Like part of me feels like I won’t be able to relate to them in conversation, despite being in unbelievably attracted to them. You are sabatoging yourself with that mindset though. Because they can sense that you are thinking this about them, and it may cause them to put up a wall.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:54 AM
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I dont know what to tell you then. If every single hot girl you meet cant hold an intellectual conversation, then you have to ask yourself is it them or is it you? Pickup and seduction is not about bombarding women with your interests. At least not in the initial stage. Its about guaging theirs (no matter how stupid you think their interests are) so that you can bed them and or take them on as girlfriends. There are plenty of smart chicks out there that are hot. But they tend to dumb down and gu…
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:39 AM
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By not being judgemental of them, or at least not letting it show. They may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but most know when they are being judged negatively for their superficialness. Besides, many play dumb anyway.
/r/seduction27/03/22 12:07 AM
1

High school game is easy, man. Girls in high school are like really inexperienced. All you need is a car or truck and the ability to talk a girl into getting into the car or truck with you, and you are set. Seriously dude your time to get mad beaver is like right now. Females in high school have almost no experience and so therefore almost no expectations or requirements in a man and no inhibitions. You just need 2 things: A car. The ability to ask a girl to get into that car with you in a way w…
/r/seduction26/03/22 04:28 AM
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Do what you are comfortable with, hookup culture isnt for everyone and not everyone can stomach sleeping with multiple people at once (mainly because you always end up asking yourself, "who else are the multiple people I am sleeping with, sleeping with?"). Heck, theres no pressure to have sex or be in a relationship at all. Some people just want to live life and not worry about girlfriends, boyfriends, or sex. And thats fine. Theres no pressure to do anything you arent on board with. This whole …
/r/seduction26/03/22 04:18 AM
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Im going to venture a guess before I even read the details and say that you dont know shit, but I may be wrong and if I am I will admit it in my edit of this answer. Ok, You make some valid points. Your premise though could be extended to all of humanity. Women and men want different things in dating. Its foolish to project on them that chicks are like men with a vagina or whatever. The important thing about women's changing moods is to not take it personally. So, I wouldnt call your theory dead…
/r/seduction26/03/22 04:06 AM
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Theres no shortcut to make approaching less painful and humiliating. You are literally going to have to just forge on and keep doing it until you either move past the social anxiety, or become so numb to it that it doesnt matter anymore. No its not going to be easy and yes you are going to have to do it a lot. Too much in fact. PUA's get a lot of flack with those "PUA cringe" and "PUA fail" videos on tiktok and Youtube. But even though they may look like tools, they have one advantage over many …
/r/seduction26/03/22 04:04 AM
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You do realize that if you know what you are doing, you can take a superficial bimbo to bed. HaHa yeah, omg, and umm no are just what they do. Winning isnt about getting them to join you on a spiel about Fredrich Neitszch. Its about getting your cock in their mouth and nether regions. If you've done that you've won. Even as they are still being superficial.
/r/seduction26/03/22 03:56 AM
2

Seed money was originally a church (televangalist) thing.
/r/seduction26/03/22 03:48 AM
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Its all relative man. You could deliver that line and it be magic but another guy does it and it falls completely flat or possibly even creeps the girl out.
/r/seduction26/03/22 03:46 AM
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No not really. You barely make any sense.
/r/seduction25/03/22 10:09 PM
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Sure. Im gonna be away for about 3ish hours as I got to head to work but i'll be back to answer it.
/r/seduction23/03/22 09:08 PM
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Uh yeah, just keep dry humping her dude but go heavy on the foreplay and the spooning. That should get her to drop those panties for you lol. I know it sucks. But hey, enjoy it. Weird sex acts can be fun, and like I said above, can be used as foreplay, which will act as a gateway towards sex itself.
/r/seduction23/03/22 08:59 PM
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She may not be interested at all though. Women dont typically experience love or crushes on first sight like many men do. So you know you may be experiencing this like big connection while she just thinks that you are an okay dude to talk to and nothing more. Im not saying to shut her out completely but really look closely at the exchanges between you too and ask yourself. DOes she really seem like she is growing attached to you like you are her? Or are you projecting your emotions onto her?
/r/seduction23/03/22 08:56 PM
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Well, men in general who are new to this kind of thing tend to think in extremes. Ive learned that with seduction, its best to teach and advise men as if we are in technical school or something and I am teaching a skilled trade. Because I shit you not, many of the men whom the field of seduction and pickup attract are dudes with zero social skills much less the ability to even be in the same room as a woman they are attracted to. ADD: So there's really no reference point whatsoever of how far is…
/r/seduction23/03/22 08:50 PM
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Yeah, dude, dont. This is a girl on reddit of all places. SHe wont even accept your selfies. Just move on man, she's a bunch of words on a screen to you. An idea. And I guarantee you there is so much better out there in the real world that you can actually see. "Should i maybe wait a little longer before continuing further?" Yeah maybe wait indefinately before continuing it any further...
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:57 PM
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"I’ve been reading some of these seduction posts and I don’t know if this has been said before but: Have female friends." Of course. I wholely agree. However what that other guy in the post is saying is that when you know next to nothing about women or even socializing, actually going to women to get advice on getting women is a terrible idea. I dont know if women are just guarding their secrets, if they are projecting, or if they just dont know how other women work, but the advice that women gi…
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:45 PM
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Well then how does one end up with having 2-3 girlfriends to practice sex with if they dont approach women but twice a week? RJLKJFDLKJHDFKJH
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:30 PM
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I'll put it nicer than the others; It just sounds like bullshit if I'm honest. No I dont exercise.
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:19 PM
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🤮 Yeah if you want to stay in the same place skills wise for months on end.
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:09 PM
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At least you are getting out and doing it. Most men just read pickup and dating advice but then just stay in the house and never go out and put it to use. There's erm...a lot of bark in this scene, but very little bite.
/r/seduction23/03/22 07:07 PM
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Its just one of those that you'll have to live with. Im 34, been hooking up with women for years and I still catch pretty strong feelings with women that I've had sex with. I've just come to live with it. And also erm...the pride of having as many options as she does is what gets me through it.
/r/seduction23/03/22 06:12 PM
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Yes, it helps when you have options for sure.
/r/seduction23/03/22 06:09 PM
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I wish I wrote for them.
/r/seduction22/03/22 03:26 PM
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Could you unpack more if you would? Many of the men here have zero social skills much less experience with the opposite sex and basically need an entire handbook for this kinda stuff. I know that sounds presumptuous but I was there myself once so I know how it is...
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:33 PM
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It’s about flirting, and behaving like a man, a man who also happens to be attracted sexually to a woman and doesn’t ever hide it, or keep it a secret he is always open about his sexual attraction for the girl. You mind unpacking that, because every guy is different, and some are very literal and take that as meaning, "I must talk about sex constantly and dry hump the girl jokingly and just make complete ass clown out of myself".
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:18 PM
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"How can I stop being this way?" You are probably giving off mad A-sexual vibes with women. You're playing it too safe. Probably not touching them at all (touching meaning puting your hands on their shoulder or whatever), and you probably dont engage in any sexual banter. "But Zert, how do I touch women and engage in sexual banter?". Good question. Trial and error. Just do it. Its going to be awkward at first. You are probably going to look foolish. But eventually you will become calibrated with…
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:16 PM
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I think I'll just continue to stick with Girlschase as a reference for Fundamentals and stuff.
/r/seduction21/03/22 08:09 PM
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Exactly
/r/seduction21/03/22 07:22 PM
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Cant do anything about it now. A big thing about being dominant is standing up for what you want even at the expense of say someone else's feelings or ego. Its likely you wont experience a situation that is carbon copy of this one, but hypothetically if you did you would just want to interject and say "thats fine I'll just get the girls number" and slightly push past him and hold out your hand for the girl to write her number on your hand. It'll give you massive sex appeal to the chicks present.
/r/seduction20/03/22 11:34 PM
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You got the right idea. Women do go from hot to cold but typically its because their anti-slut defense mechanism got triggered or because they went into auto-rejection because you did or said something which caused you to seem unattainable to her. This other stuff about dating rules, programs, or whatever is just...idk rambling I guess.
/r/seduction20/03/22 10:48 PM
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Its probably time to move on from the one who set out to destroy you. I wouldnt even waste time trying to figure out why she was that way towards you.
/r/seduction20/03/22 10:36 PM
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Noted!
/r/seduction20/03/22 10:20 PM
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no prob! I like your avatar man. Its original lol!
/r/seduction20/03/22 06:05 AM
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I see 2 big mistakes that men make when they encounter the "I have a boyfriend or I have a fiance"- line from a girl that they are on a date (yes even something as "benign" as a coffee date) with: They give up too easily and relegate themselves to the friendzone because they assume that they dont have a chance just because she said she has a boyfriend. Dude! She went on a date with you alone! Without any of her friends. Women dont just go on dates with other dudes while they still are still in a…
/r/seduction20/03/22 06:02 AM
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"Should I message her to schedule a date or should I not? Not sure how togo about continuing a relationship with my ex girlfriend - never beenin this situation." No. You should focus on other women and not chase her. She slept with you once recently. She'll likely do it again as well as long as you dont act desperate and give her some space. Giving her some space meaning: say nothing, dont text her to schedule a date. But when she texts you and shows signs that she wants to hookup, bite the bait…
/r/seduction20/03/22 05:38 AM
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Friend told this girl to "Fuck off" what do I do?" You should; not make a big deal out of the ordeal to the girl. Your friend is the one who is a complete tool. Not you. You should convey this with your calmness and coolness towards the situation.
/r/seduction20/03/22 05:23 AM
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This is news to me /s
/r/seduction19/03/22 02:15 AM
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I take most field reports and advice pieces in this sub with a grain of salt. Most of the time the people typing these have way less figured out than they realize. Its great to get laid and or realize something related to Fundamentals/Dating/Seduction, but most of the time these realizations are situational and anything but being one size fits all as far as advice or even being helpful goes.
/r/seduction19/03/22 02:11 AM
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maybe moving to Florida, what are the girls like" Worse, if you dont know what you are doing. That being said, this shit is relative to the person. If you sucked with women in Podunk, Michigan you are going to suck in Miami. If meeting women is hard for a guy in LA, it isnt going to be any easier for him in Fort Worth. When it comes down to it, whether you are having problems meeting women, or are picking them up easily, thats you. Not Miami.
/r/seduction19/03/22 12:36 AM
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A short man, with no confidence, is going to do worse with women, than a 6'0 guy with no confidence. Mind you, both are going to suck abismally with women as they have no confidence. But the short guy is going to definately do worse. But, a short guy with confidence, is going to do way better than a 6'0 guy with no confidence.
/r/seduction19/03/22 12:32 AM
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Who gives a fuck dude I'm so sick of people trying to infect me with their bullshit-ass panic. My name is Chad by the way.
/r/seduction17/03/22 11:40 PM
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I am a DnB fan of the real old school stuff like A Guy Called Gerald, Nookie, Goldie, LTJ Bukem, 4hero, Peshay, Photek, Plug, Source Direct, Roni Size, Omni Trio, and 2 Bad Mice. I also like the more experimental stuff like Aphex Twins 90s stuff.
/r/seduction17/03/22 11:24 PM
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Yeah. Seems like it would be dangerous for you to be anything to a girl like this.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:50 PM
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OK disregard all of that. I thought this was another question I had commented on. Meaning disregard this here comment when you get the notification. Dont disregard my original comment. I do believe that you have to start somewhere when it comes to dating.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:47 PM
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"How can I cope with this? It also doesn't help much that we are all pretty open and occasionally play drinking games where you kiss the other person or something like that" Well next time you play a drinking game with her and you 2 end up making out, see if you cant pull her back into the bedroom to fuck or something. You both are drunk anyway right? Lowered inhibitions...The perfect excuse.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:41 PM
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"Started talking to a girl on campus she was really bubbly so we flirtedand it was really fun. She was giving a lot of IOI’s flirting back hard." Its been my experience that the bubbly ones are just stupid friendly and are like that to everyone.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:35 PM
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I’ve learned so much of female nature just by talking to her. Thats scary. How about taking everything you have learned and throwing it out the window? Damaged women are not the people to be learning about female nature from...
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:33 PM
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Ok, so she's damaged and you run in the opposite direction fast because thats the smart thing to do. What is there to be conflicted over?
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:32 PM
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​ 2nd Mistake. Dont ever do that it'll kill the vibe with a girl. You never want to guilt trip a girl for flaking on you. She may have had genuine reasons for not going. And, she may have gotten nervous for any number of reasons ("didnt know what to wear", "what if he doesnt like me", "what if I'm to fat") and then psyched herself out so bad that she decided, "you know what, fuck it I'm not going tonight". "I don't really see this going anywhere. What do you think." 1st mistake. Never call a sit…
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:25 PM
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"Sometimes acting like myself (i.e. not thinking about flirting) worked and a couple of girl friends confessed to me, but I wasn't interested" Well maybe you ought to just try it out with the girl anyway next time that happens. You got to start somewhere and you'll have better luck getting women if you've already had 1 or 2 than if you've never been with one at all. Just you know, dont end up giving up and marrying some girl you are just kinda "meh" about. Lowering your standards is about steppi…
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:13 PM
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Yeah. You want to be communicating sexual attraction in a way that doesnt come off as CREEPY or socially clumsy.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:10 PM
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I agree. Good mental talk does help a lot.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:07 PM
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"Also I'm hitting the gym. Trying to bulk. But that also not working." https://www.girlschase.com/content/truth-about-big-muscles-and-getting-laid I really cant prove or disprove that article. I've always focused more on the running and cardio part than the muscle head side of things. Mainly because I've never needed to actually buff up. I've always been kinda stalky.
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:05 PM
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"What could be options to do that?" Well theres really only one. If she is looking inviting (as in she is smiling at you and stealing glances at you) then yeah by all means approach her on the bus. Even if you dont see a girl looking at you you can feel it. If you feel it, go for it. However this approach: "Oh my god I must approach a girl on the bus because (insert shitty half ass dating advice website) told me that I must approach 20 girls in one day and Im kinda running out of options because…
/r/seduction17/03/22 01:03 PM
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You've got it figured out! So what the hell am I even doing here? I'm gone...
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:55 PM
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Just keep her talking about herself. Ask her questions and make comments here and there which will get her talking about things. You will be asked questions about yourself of course. Answer them briefly and then focus back on her. "I know I should sexualize and have kino escalation but I don't really know how to do it properly and what should be the limits..." You can do that with touch. Obviously dont grab the pussy, but you know put your hand on her shoulder here and there and if you are risky…
/r/seduction17/03/22 12:51 PM
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Ye so that is how I lost my virginity. I’m still feeling something really mixed now." Live with it and find another hotty to sleep with. By the way, how did she say it when she expressed that she doesnt want to do it again with you? Did she say it matter of factly, with revulsion, or did it leave you feeling a bit confused, as if maybe you should go for doing it again with her anyway? I ask those questions because sometimes bitsches say things like that to a guy just to see how he will react. A …
/r/seduction15/03/22 07:42 AM
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Break down "dont be stoic". I agree with that advice wholeheartedly but I want to see if you mean what I think you mean. (Basically my take on that is "never go full stoic").
/r/seduction15/03/22 07:03 AM
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I disagree his points look pretty legit. A lot of the advice style posts in this forum are fucking dumb and ill thought out, if im honest. But this seems pretty solid.
/r/seduction14/03/22 12:44 PM
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Solid advice. I as the advice gatekeeper approve this message.
/r/seduction14/03/22 12:40 PM
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You got the right idea i can dig it.
/r/seduction11/03/22 05:51 PM
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"How can I translate that confidence to day game, grocery store, etc, when I don't have a couple of drinks in me and I am by myself?" By just doing it. I studied game and dating advice for a full 5 years without ever making approaches before I realized that there is no shortcut that is going to make approaching easy. In the movie "Recoil" there is a scene where Steve Austin kicks a bunch of peoples ass. A character then asks him "how did you learn to fight like that?". Steve Austin's character r…
/r/seduction11/03/22 02:22 PM
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"Do I cut all contact or play this “friend” role?" What if she was offering up the pussy to you on a platter? Would you really take that. She sounds like a fucking drama queen with concealed daddy issues. Erratic behaviour in a girl should be considered a read flag no matter how low key it is. You dont just fuck and then leave these types. There's going to be drama. Plus with the whole twerking thing, she's probably ghetto so you know she enjoys men beating the shit out of each other over her, a…
/r/seduction11/03/22 02:09 PM
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Oh five downvotes, how tragic. Well guess what, post got removed anyway by moderation so FUCK YE'ALL!!
/r/seduction11/03/22 04:57 AM
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"So I have a very good chance of getting laid with this girl but the problem is that she's emotionally unstable." Yyyyup. Thats usually how these types of things work. Crazy pussy is always going to be easier, at first. "She has attachment and abandonment issues, was/is diagnosed withclinical depression, has scars over her arm with cuts on it, and hasattempted suicide in the past." Oh fuck dude, you definately got a live one right there! They get even crazier after sex. "What do you think man?" …
/r/seduction11/03/22 04:50 AM
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"sexually, and is absolutely 100% in love with me.How to I bring this up in a way that won’t blow up in my face? Oh trust me if you are the type of person who is not so comfortable with direct confrontation, its going to blow up in your face. But I wouldnt let that deter you if I were you. If you need some leverage, just lie and say that one of your exes was also heavily into social media and ended up cheating or something because of it and you had to end the relationship as a result. And that n…
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:31 PM
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Why would you want to be? THe male to female ratio on dating apps are skewed as fuck (something like 70% males to 30% females). Most women get like 50 likes matches dms or whatever in 1 day. And most of the dudes on there those dudes are rather unremarkable. Irregardless of how remarkable you may be, women on there reach a point to where it just seems like she is swimming in a sea of average tools. Rusty ones at that. I guarantee you would have a higher rate of success if you went out in the day…
/r/seduction10/03/22 05:02 PM
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"What are your thoughts on intentionally not following a girl you areinterested in on IG, from the perspective of acting aloof towards her?" I generally dont follow women on "da gram" to begin with as I've never payed much attention to those platforms. And also, I dont seriously date women that put themselves out there like that. "Out there like that" being defined as: on instagram in order to attention whore, on facebook in order to gossip and fight with members of her family and "friends" from…
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:44 PM
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Just play it cool. She's probably just testing you to see if you go total "niceguy" on her or something. She's dtf sure but if you go crazy and start blowing up her phone yeah you might botch it.
/r/seduction10/03/22 03:56 PM
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Sort of. But initially when you are setting up dates with women, you should avoid the party date (parties, bars, clubs, megaclubs...) and always shoot for a 1 on 1 date. This will do 2 things. It will prevent (or at least make it more difficult for) her to invite her boyfriend along or any other people who could get in the way between you and her, and it will eliminate any confusion about what you want from her. It is likely that she realizes that you are romantically interested in her. But she …
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:45 AM
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Keep her around just to fill silence but maybe focus on other women for now.
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:36 AM
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"Does this mean anything? I’m just confused what other reason there might be for this." On paper it really shouldnt matter as you are both just hooking up anyway. Just keep her in your back pocket dude, you dont want to start actively chasing her. It will just cause her to pull away. Also, avoid the whole trap of playing mind games with her in order to get her more attached with you. It'll just waste both you and her's time. Especially if she's strong willed. Thats time that you could better spe…
/r/seduction10/03/22 04:33 AM
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Thanks. I have been not hung for years but have still had much success with women. The inescurity has long escaped me.
/r/seduction08/03/22 03:19 PM
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They probably lost interest or something. Thing is with women, when you feel like there is some repor, you need to move quickly to whatever it is your end goal is with them.
/r/seduction08/03/22 12:30 PM
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This is one of those moments that whether or not you are sure you make a move, you definately make a move.
/r/seduction08/03/22 12:29 PM
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Introducing something like that would mean in a sense making people who dont want to take something like that, take something like that.
/r/MensRights08/03/22 12:25 PM
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Thanks but life isnt that simple or one size fits all for everywone. I try hard not to be dismissive of posts like this because I know that they are heartfelt. But for those of us older than you, finding success in X or happiness in Y is not a linear A to B path. I mean heck, even your situation where you think that you got laid because you play an instrument? It goes so much deeper than that and you probably without realizing probably got laid because while you were learning an instrument, you …
/r/seduction07/03/22 06:37 PM
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Welcome aboard dude and Im glad you stuck it out. I really do feel like however long it takes a man, he should keep forging ahead and putting in the work and approaching it will pay off.
/r/seduction07/03/22 09:22 AM
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Depends on how good you are. If you suck at conversation I'd just ask her out.
/r/seduction07/03/22 09:09 AM
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I guarantee you that if he ends things with you, its because he is falling for you and doesnt want to. Not because he met someone else. Sounds like he is getting attached.
/r/seduction07/03/22 07:03 AM
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"I told her something like "you are in debth with me, because of a missed call"" Dont do that. It makes it seem like you are trying to indirectly shaming her for ghosting you. Which looks desperate. Not all ghosts are mal-intentioned (no pun intended).
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:50 AM
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Yes. They have the best social lives in college. Be careful while in them though, they tend to create drunks.
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:30 AM
1

Yes you are correct.
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:02 AM
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If she rejected you a couple of months ago why are you worried now what she does? Just roll with it and ignore her. You stand to gain or lose nothing by doing so so you might as well just ignore her. Just dont be like those dudes who get screenshoted over in r/niceguys and send her a long ranting text about how she broke your heart and how you would have treated her like a queen and you are a nice guy and all of that. Definately dont do that. Take the L, and have a look around you at the other w…
/r/seduction26/02/22 10:44 AM
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Have you considered ditching the whole bar and club scene? It can be a bit scandalous. Those types of venues are not for the average heap of men. The people who benefit the most from being in bars/clubs are women, the staff, people who are high status, and the promotors. Women go for free drinks and a few lines of coke. Many dont even bring a purse with them because they know men will buy them drinks there. Promoters, high status men, and the staff are there because of the decent amount of under…
/r/seduction26/02/22 10:35 AM
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Not me. I still read girlschase religiously. This is good advice if you are someone who is in the stage where they need to just focus on learning how to close with the girl. But in all honesty once you get past that hurdle, yes some gaming on the chick may be necessary. What if she's interested but acting like she isnt? What if she isnt interested, but acting like she is because maybe she feels that by engaging you, you will lead her to hotter men or all the good parties or so on and so forth. M…
/r/seduction26/02/22 09:54 AM
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Remember that you want to be cool, calm, collected yes but not to the point of being stiff and losing all sex appeal. The thing that cocaine squirrell and the monotone talking military robot from Texas both have in common is that while one seems over the top and the other seems flat, they both ooze sex appeal to women. So you must find a way to either cultivate that or to incorporate it into your...[i cant think of a word for this]...schtick [?].
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:41 AM
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Oh look ye'all, another shithead who thinks that because he recently got laid for the first or second time, that he knows everything and is an expert on pickup, seduction, and life. Spare me dude, you sound young, full of shit, and a have long way to go before you can be called an expert on anything in life. Real practitioners and teachers of this stuff are humble and dont punch down or insult those who are just starting out and or are rusty. So yeah definately stfu, keyboard seducer. [AGGGHHHHH…
/r/seduction20/02/22 07:30 AM
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Maybe somebody has a different view here, I'd love to share our thoughts below Ive managed to have some pretty decent, ilbiet short term, relationships with women when I've been flat broke. It can be tricky and I'll admit that I had to resort to a bit of manipulation in order to call the shots on certain things in a relationship, but yes dating while you are broke can be done. You definately need to be someone that women find sexually appealing though in order for this to be pulled off.
/r/seduction19/02/22 02:28 PM
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Definately because you never know. No 2 women are the same. One may want nothing to do with you because you wouldnt go to bed with them that day that you met them. Meanwhile, another woman might be willing to wait a week or 2.
/r/seduction19/02/22 07:15 AM
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I dont get my dating advice from else anyone except for girlschase.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:18 AM
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Look, when theres that much heat between you and a girl, you need to try and fuck her right then and there, and if you cant because theres no place to do it, you need to move her to your place pretty promptly. When an opportunity like that pops up, you dont wait until the end of the party to take her home. Attraction has an expiration date.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:15 AM
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Its official bruh, you are full of shit.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:12 AM
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You'd be surprised. Most young dudes think in extremes when it comes to taking and giving dating advice. So yes, there are no shortage of tools out there in the real world who think that hitting the gym is all you have to do to get laid.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:10 AM
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Thanks but I've long realized all of this.
/r/seduction19/02/22 06:04 AM
1

"How do you define the race in that analogy?" Getting in her pants.
/r/seduction19/02/22 03:10 AM
1

Yes those sound like approach invitations. Yes you should approach before she loses interest.
/r/seduction19/02/22 02:59 AM
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Whats your background in this? Do you have much field work or have you mostly learned this stuff through reading it? Or is it a combination of both? All of those are fine im not knocking any of it. However I need to ask because it sounds like you are worried about where you are going to put the trophy before you even won the race.
/r/seduction15/02/22 05:45 AM
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32m 1 different people. Why are you having trouble juggleing them if its just fucking?
/r/seduction15/02/22 03:49 AM
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How do you reckon I should handle this situation? Easy one. Hang in there and maintain it for as long as you can. which I usually see as a sign that things aren't going to be too serious To that I say yes and no. Most seduction websites will tell you to quickly bed a woman you are attracted to whether you are trying to get her for a relationship or a fling. So I wouldnt quite use that as an indicator of whether or not a relationship is going to end up being serious.
/r/seduction12/02/22 10:56 AM
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Hang in there, and keep doing it for as long as you possibly can lol. I mean come on dude these are the types of experiences that dudes (who want them of course) need to have. This is like on some "shit-that-you-tell-your-grandsons-when-your-old"- type shit.
/r/seduction12/02/22 10:50 AM
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I think you just need to go for it. You both sound very young. And with being young, there comes a "forgiveness" of making blunderous moves. From older people and from your peers. SO that means that if you make a move on her and its a mistake, she more than likely will not only forgive it, but she will try to position the both of you into places or situations to where you can make another move. This of course is given that you dont act overly butthurt if she pushes away your advances. Most women…
/r/seduction02/02/22 08:22 AM
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I tend to not follow those who are shitheads. Irregardless of whether or not they get laid. What works for one guy may cause another to remain a virgin for eternity.
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:16 AM
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girlschase, but I've never once subscribed.
/r/seduction02/02/22 07:03 AM
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"should I do the same?" What else can you do at this point? The situation between you and her has already devolved into playing games with each others heads. So you both are pretty much deadlocked. Remember, seduction is not supposed to play out like a war or a power struggle. Its a dance that is supposed to be enjoyable. Best advice is to try to not over game a girl. An example of this would be like getting a girl to chase you but not changing it up and meeting her halfway. You dont want a girl…
/r/seduction02/02/22 05:17 AM
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no shit
/r/seduction02/02/22 05:05 AM
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You a girlschase disciple? I am. Been reading articles from those guys off and on for 10 years...
/r/seduction02/02/22 03:53 AM
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