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| 5 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?^ The possibility of this fantasy can only come from someone who's only experienced this as a fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:39 PM |
| 0 | What does your “ideal” dating life look like?My current dating life. Sex fairly easily with cute women. Which means I don't have to get into a relationship if I don't want to. This is important. Dudes who are into polyamory...have no fucking clue how they manage or why they bother. Have a gf and a side piece = cool. Having 2 gfs = my worst nightmare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/23 05:37 PM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Ummm that's the type of money everyone means when they say money gets women. But people think that attraction isn't real. It sure as shit is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:45 AM |
| – | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Ya bro the amount of money necessary to pull it off is high. 6 figures in a metropolitan area is just comfortable it isn't fuck me rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 02:01 AM |
| 1 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?I like that women are assholes a lot of the time when they reject you. I try and make all my rejections happen this way. Why? An unambiguous no saves so much more time than any degree of "maybe." Besides there's usually a younger hotter version of whoever it is waiting. Or it's 99% likely I've banged someone way way hotter than them, so I don't give a shit...be mean. And men complaining about women being just friends with them are pussies. It's their responsibility to remove themselves from rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:31 AM |
| 3 | So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this?I see all relationships as cost benefit. Being friends with a woman you find attractive is a relationship where costs outweigh benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Women with a lot of male friends are a instant 'red flag'Why is it a red flag? If she has a bunch of male friends she's just platonic with, whatever. If she has a friend group where she's fucked multiple guys in the friend group, that's the red flag. I don't tend to have female friends because I don't know what the point is of hanging out with someone you're attracted to who isn't attracted to you. ... And the unattractive ones typically develop or have feelings...which I don't want to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/23 12:26 AM |
| 1 | The orgasm gap would be smaller if women took the time to communicate their needs instead of expecting things to magically happen to themIf women are starfishing for you they aren't that into it Actually as you get more experience I'd say your concern with sexual satisfaction of your partner goes down, if anything. You're just there to have a good time especially if it's a one off encounter. Idk for me the communicating or being told what to do turns me off in the moment tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 10:16 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Yeah no you can keep talking out your ass. Research in the area has been done. Go read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Ya bro the legions of people are just too fucking stupid to do that Hey do you also believe in other things like the reason we're not all millionaires is that some of us are lazy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 06:59 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Ya bro the legions of people who have tried and failed JUST DIDNT WANT IT ENOUGH Tool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 06:30 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Just don't be fat makes absolutely no goddamned sense. Go research how effective diets and weight loss efforts are for people: virtually no effect at all. People who are fat by and large stay fat, despite their efforts. So you start off by simply positing the thing that would make everyone above average is just this thing that anyone can do. It fucking isn't. Women on the whole are probably a little more but not that much more hygienic than men. Clothes don't matter much, neither does grooming (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 06:16 AM |
| 8 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?No I'm just smart and know that vague unquantifiable metrics like "social skills" are pretty meaningless and a convenient way to blame an individual for things that like are the fault of raw circumstance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:55 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Stupid statement off the bat...80% of men have the potential to be above average. No they fucking don't. Lol. Do mathz. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:52 AM |
| 2 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?First, anyone who says that money doesn't PHYSICALLY AROUSE AND ATTRACT WOMEN is a moron. Literally have a guy go into a bar and start buying up the entire place and throwing it around and I guarantee he'll have several panties in that place soaked: for him. Idk If it's just a fantasy of poor people or what but money and power generate actual lust. Hate to break it to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:51 AM |
| 5 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Nice try. As a guy who gets laid regularly from dating apps, I'd say on average they're like 6s and 7s... ...these women absolutely have 40+ men simping for them. I've known less attractive women who've had similar amounts. There's a great graph showing the percentile attractiveness a man has to be to match with a given level of female attractiveness. The 70th percentile man tended to get below 20th percentile women. Think about that for a sec | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:48 AM |
| 8 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?It's literally bootstrap cliche nonsense. The same shit the boss tells his employees so that they'll keep working shit hours for shit pay and tolerate their shitty lives under his employ. Put down the fucking Kool Aid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:46 AM |
| 3 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?Ya so bullshit and then reinforces it by wielding masculine gender roles to shame (don't complain you pussy BECAUSE it makes you less sexy). Double whammy right there of lameness. OP is a human being in an understandable state of frustration and you're doing your best tool impersonation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:44 AM |
| 6 | As a plain looking/unattractive guy, what to do to find women interested in you?This is such bullshit I don't know where to begin. Most women aren't doing any work nor are they ever told to work harder or self improve when they whine about some guy who kicked them to the curb. I sure as shit know I'm not doing any work on myself and despite that I get laid just fine. More than fine. And even in periods where I was straight up gross, or insecure, or unemployed, or whatever....always managed to get some. So no, dating and romance aren't filled with the "hard workers" vs the "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/23 05:42 AM |
| 1 | You ignore the most important thing - the sparkLol 😆 so righteous dude. Nice takedown | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:51 PM |
| 1 | You ignore the most important thing - the sparkYa the spark is just physical attraction. Anyone who believes in woowoo nonsense like the spark and confidence (and a billion other meaningless subjective terms) deserves to forever be in the dark with dating. Just because someone isn't conventionally attractive doesn't mean you can't be attracted to them physically. And vice versa. There's a correlation between conventional good looks and attraction but it's far from perfect. In sum, in the beginning it is ALL physical attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?More representation of diverse looking men in various positive roles in movies, media, etc. That alone would go a long way. People are pretty fucking stupid. Monkey see monkey do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:17 PM |
| 2 | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?Aesthetics = arbitrary. Hierarchies = unnecessary. Hence inequity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenYeah. You don't know what you're talking about. You're a wee lad. If you think hotter girl = better in bed you just don't have enough experience, chief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:08 PM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womentough to believe things so far from your experience. I understand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:04 PM |
| 2 | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?Um yes but if the majority of the populace is conditioned to value arbitrary traits people with those traits will have many more people who think they're attractive. Common sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Nervousness or Fear Attracts Women the mostThis is some dumb shit right here. Making a woman feel comfortable with you attracts women the most. As in, a woman who is physically attracted to you...make her feel comfortable and come off as easygoing and easy to talk to = panty peeler. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:38 PM |
| 2 | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?Literally attraction is strongly molded every day by culture... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:32 PM |
| 1 | If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality?Inequity mostly. The patriarchal system conditions women to reward a fairly narrow range of men with sex. Cultural conditioning is more to blame for a lot of what we see. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV : You may as well just be yourself because women will all interpret your personality differentlyHow a woman interprets your personality is directly correlated to how attracted to you she is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:28 PM |
| 3 | Many Women seem to not understand their own sexualityWomen? No bro. Most people have no clue why the fuck they actually do anything or how social dynamics actually operate on a conscious level. I mean if most people knew the truth...that short of radical change i.e. surgery, steroids, etc. There isn't much you can do to improve your dating lot....the incentives for men to participate in society would vanish. And we're already slowly starting to see that. The entire reason people participate in a society is to potentially reap some of the fruits of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:19 AM |
| 1 | you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to.Dumb CMV People complain because they believe that for what they offer, the fact that their only OPTIONS are those sucks. I mean there's a great Tinder graph that shows the male physical attractiveness percentile and its equivalent female physical attractiveness percentile (likely to match). The split was retarded....a man in the 70th percentile had women in less than the 20th percentile to look forward to. So when people like you piss on about how no one forces anyone to do x or y, it's much th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:14 AM |
| 1 | CMV The biggest fear of a Women in Dating is getting Pump and dumped, the biggest fear off a Man is not beeing seen as sexually desirable by his Girl.The biggest fear of women in dating is getting raped and brutally murdered, dumpkopf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:07 AM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenDingus it's obvious he was talking about committed relationships. However you're also wrong to state generally it's better to keep them on the roster than not. Most chicks aren't that great in bed, hot or no. Just because she's cute doesn't mean she's worth being on the roster. Unless you don't have a ton of new options...which sounds like you don't if the notion of hitting and quitting makes no sense to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenDingus it's obvious he was talking about committed relationships. However you're also wrong to state generally it's better to keep them on the roster than not. Most chicks aren't that great in bed, hot or no. Just because she's cute doesn't mean she's worth being on the roster. Unless you don't have a ton of new options...which sounds like you don't if the notion of hitting and quitting makes no sense to you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 06:05 AM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenSpotted the neckbeard ^ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:39 AM |
| – | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenEverything here screams conformist fucktard so of course you'd assume someone disagreeing with you must imply THEY ARE EVIL OR BAD IN SOME WAY Lol what a tool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:39 AM |
| 6 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenLmfao So partners are there to elevate social status. Spoken like....a....WOMAN Jesus Christ you are way into the social Kool Aid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:38 AM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenL M F A O keep her for what....EXACTLY? Only fucktards who attempt to wield masculinity as a shaming tool like the dull conformists they are push the narrative that keeping a woman "just cause" is some noble or worthwhile thing. The reality is that most of them aren't worth more than catch and release. Same is probably true of men. But ya you trying to position yourself as some arbiter of masculinity: lulz2themax | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:36 AM |
| 0 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.No your problems don't disappear. With tons of matches/prospects come tons of opportunities to waste your time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:04 AM |
| 7 | Most men would be resentful and disgusted by their partners if they were given a written or visual history of their past sexual experiences. CMV.10 bucks most men would actually be kinda turned on....then pissed off by the extreme cognitive dissonance | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 04:24 AM |
| – | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenYou sound like a judgy fucktard. Pretending that the world is just or that the dumb shit about personality people say matters actually does definitely isn't something they should do. The truth is here to set us free boyos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 04:22 AM |
| 1 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenHallelujah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:08 AM |
| 0 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenWisdom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:08 AM |
| 9 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenLMFAO exactly why are these people to be respected and cherished? just because they have vaginas. hey you meet a cool chick, treat her well and respect her because she's cool not out of some lame chivalry bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:07 AM |
| 4 | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenLMFAO Broheim, NO. banged more cuties in the last 3 months than most do in years and NONE OF YOUR ADVICE is AT ALL RELEVANT to the process. NO MAN who i know who tags tail does that shit either. you're doing the 'just world' dance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:06 AM |
| – | How Average & lonely men can make themselves desirable to womenProbably one of the dumbest posts I've seen on here in awhile. Or a middling troll attempt. Meaningless as strength and weakness are relative qualities anyway. Retarded. Plenty of junkies get laid, so no, this isn't relevant. Yeah, because being a male groupie is awesome. Chicks swoon for Robin, not Batman. Latching on to some dude will teach you how to be a sidekick. Going it alone and getting shit done on your own will teach you how to be independent and 'masculine,' (not that those qualities … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 01:04 AM |
| 1 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.I literally said in that sentence that the MAIN complaint men have is about prospects. But you're just flat out wrong if you believe that if you gave a normal dude oodles of "matches" or "prospects" he'd cease having shit to complain about. is about how to impress/keep a woman you're already dating, and that's why it's useless. Agreed, but for different reasons. The hard part is meeting candidates and doing the initial "sales". After that it's not that hard once you have some small practice. LOL… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 12:57 AM |
| 1 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.Not necessarily. That scenario makes a lot of assumptions. Most of which are too dumb to get into right now. Regarding whether money should be accounted for.... DUH DOY. I make it a point to spend max one drink for a new woman before me and her have been intimate. Hetero men should all do the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 10:08 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youSo if someone said that unicorns are flying around in outer space, one must indeed make a 'reasoned argument' to dismiss it as bullshit? or is the premise alone so asinine and nonsensical that none is necessary. We both know the right answer, which is why your proclamation is childish and yet another attempt by you to legitimize your bullshit. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:47 PM |
| 1 | How hard do you think it actually is to date as a heterosexual man.Since getting back on the old tinder in early May I've gotten around 1500 matches, so things are going ok. excluding the guys who are in the top percent of men who are insane the good looking or have a super magnetic personality/ game. People who say this don't understand how it works. The chicks who line up for you are always beneath you. The women "at your level" (i.e. the ones typically you'd take seriously for a relationship) are always difficult. I have never. ever. seen an exception to thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:37 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youLOL i've fucked more hot women than you've ever even thought of buddy boyo. you should be taking notes, not trying to convince me of the mysterious wayz of womynz | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:14 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youYou seem to be projecting, (evidenced by the laughable 'ZOMG HA DO U NOT GET LAID' social shaming attempt) or stupidly confusing someone calling out bullshit as bullshit with "emotional triggering." Bottom line, you're bullshitting, and it's not worth "reasoned discussion." Start with premises that aren't strawmanned caricatures of human life and then hey, maybe I'll grace you with respectful discourse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Society thinks independent women die alone with cats. It's actually men who die alone.LOL no one is disputing that most any woman, regardless of attractiveness, can find some guy to put up with her shit because vagina. But this simple graph shows that in old age women are way more likely to be living alone: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/02/ST_2016-02-18_older-adult_1-01.png?w=310 Probably because they outlive their partners anyway. But part of it is also that men are more likely to remarry than women in those age ranges. Women have a hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Men would probably simp less and be desperate for female company if they just got more positive reinforcement/affirmation in their everyday life, I will explain in better detail what I meanI can see why you believe this --- but it is incorrect. The truth of the matter is that most men simp because they labor under a few misconceptions regarding female attraction. The truth is that in the beginning, it's all about physical/sexual attraction. Behavior is meaningless. The lie is that behavior exerts some kind of short-term causal effect on attraction. So men believe (for whatever reason) that they're inching ever closer via their behaviors (whether they're bad boy PLAYA behaviors or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:53 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youTo argue would be to legitimize it. 😀 It's prima facie just worldism in the obvious service of dominant narratives surrounding men and dating. Which means you're so far in the hole you don't even know what you don't know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:43 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youLmfao You sound like a rookie | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 05:43 PM |
| 2 | Do you think that in the age of equality, we should push for a 50/50 dating culture?Lol I push for a "I don't invest more than an hour of time and attention into a chick unless she puts out" dating culture. More men should push for the "don't let women waste your time" dating culture | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:21 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youLol Then NOTHING is enough Women aren't complicated | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:14 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youWomen reject men they are actually attracted to pretty much 0% of the time. stopthebullshit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:08 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youLMFAO you don't need to be any of that shit Women fall for guys WHO LOOK GOOD Wow. Literally they use their pussies as a divining rod. It's not rocket science | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:03 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you^ gaslighting sprinkled with bootstraps rhetoric. Grade: D- | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:02 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells you^ nonsense Women don't need much at all beyond you looking good. Looking good != oh in the right situation I'd fuck this guy. Looking good = Looking at this guy makes me want to fuck him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 04:01 PM |
| – | Personality does not matter to women as much as everyone tells youLol kneejerk gaslighting That's how you know the OP struck a chord | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYes and people like different things for certain reasons. Like I said you should learn to embrace weakness as well as strength. Ownership. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYes. YOURE the one making it that way You're refusing to give any ground about guy Y, which makes it hard to take you and your supposed neutral stance seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYes The fact that the only weakness you see is that it's such a masterclass that it takes a long time to learn is lol. And they don't come from my views it's how heteronormative dating works. I say masculine women to denote a slim minority of women. I say feminine men because they are passive like the majority of women. The fact that you don't really seem to understand that most straight women enjoy the guy taking the lead is bonkers. The fact that you think her letting you take the lead is her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManNo it's possible you're telling the truth, but if it's true it's such an outlier that it can't really be generalized. Hence what I said about inductive reasoning. But whether what you're saying is true or not, the fact that you don't see that you're clearly advocating one style over another and can't see it's weaknesses is kind of strange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 12:05 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYeah you seem convinced you're not vigorously advocating for guy Y. Even now you refuse any possible negative label of guy Y. And you twist it into me not tolerating differences when I've said each style has strengths and weaknesses. You're the one who can't tolerate one style having any weakness... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManI didn't say I refuse to believe anything that contradicts me. What you're saying makes no sense in the real world of heteronormative dating dynamics. So using inductive reasoning the odds of it being true are very low. Outliers are possible but I shouldn't take them to be true because you say so, especially because you're biased to a particular approach. And it's not Guy Xs goal to sleep with X number of women. It just happens as a by product of the style. It simply is way more efficient. And y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYeaaaaah And we disagree. I think guy Y has plenty of other weaknesses. Guy Y doesn't know how to escalate on his own. He needs the girl to do heavy lifting. Guy Y is likely rejection sensitive and risk averse. Guy Ys approach isn't the most efficient. Guy Y needs masculine women for his approach to work. Guy Y requires prioritizing the vibe over what's actually correct or rational. Guy Y has to build relationships with everyone. Which takes more time and is more of a loss when leads don't pan o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 10:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingYes and attainability is a good thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 10:05 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManNot really. Maybe you're telling the truth, maybe you're not. What is obvious is that you're flaunting one style over the other. Like I said you have yet to concede any negative aspect of guy Y. So stop pretending you aren't advocating one style. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Phrases like, "A real man..." or "Yes, but the right man..."I use that reasoning all the time... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:49 PM |
| 1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingI can see why | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:27 PM |
| 0 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingThey really don't. Given equal atteactiveness the good guy wins. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:27 PM |
| – | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManSo yeah they're masculine women. I know I know the next refrain will be how no they're super feminine but you can save it. And I mean yeah seems like you enjoy being passive. It's not that much work to me to give compliments or take initiative. And if it is work it just sounds like you're rejection sensitive. I think you have a massive blindspot regarding a lot of this stuff. For example, your friend got 20 new girls in a year. I know guy Xs approach with equal effort can 2 or 3x that. Guy Y to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYou are claiming one approach is better than the other dude stop being disingenuous. You have yet to concede any possible downside to guy Y while continually characterizing everything about guy X in a negative light. At least be up front. The men mostly complaining aren't getting the results of guy X. They're talking about dinner dates, women flaking out of disinterest, etc. They aren't having SUCCESS. They'd complain a lot less if they could go on streaks of banging 4-5 new cute women every wee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:10 PM |
| -1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingNo they don't. Say's law even states that supply creates its own demand. Supply and demand breaks down in the face of simple counter examples. Extremely ugly people are rare, yet no one wants them no matter how unattainable they make themselves. Why is that? The good person isn't turning anyone off. Those people just weren't that interested in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManSo he meets these women who throw themselves at him the same night like clockwork without him doing anything. Sorry dude but lol if he's not dating down. Either he's not banging them the same night or sorry, he's dating down, or you're embellishing a lot. But regardless it seems like you made this post to say it's better to be guy y rather than guy x in your opinion. Essentially, you're saying wouldn't it be great to have women throwing themselves at you all the time without any downsides or eff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingI don't think game exist, can you not read? I'm not negging you, I'm stating my opinion. Take that like a man, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 09:00 PM |
| – | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManOP isn't talking about that kind of guy. There are indeed guys who get laid with the "friends" approach. I've seen it. They tend to be more passive and feminine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:26 PM |
| 6 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.Wow my cocks pretty huge but it sounds like you're packing quite the python. Diff is that in all this I'm just telling the truth. Hate the Game dawg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:17 PM |
| 1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingPeople who buy into 1 and 2 are immature fucktards who you shouldn't want in your life. Every gf I've had came easy and were readily attainable on both sides. I never ever have doubted whether a gf I've had loves me. I've never experienced sex droughts. And lack love has never been the reason for a relationship ending. Rather than generalize bullshit to all women, learn how to screen for the good ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingThe spark is physical and sexual attraction... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: RP strategies have become a pre-requisite for male success in datingDude if you have these great stats, consider that RP strategies aren't what's doing the heavy lifting. There is no game to make a woman who isn't attracted to you, attracted to you. If these women you were.hooking up with were true 9s and 10s why didn't you seriously date any of them. Either because they were incompatible with you or because they were bitches. So tight you attracted a bunch of people you didn't really care about. (Hard to believe if they were all smokeshows). Sounds tight. Your … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:12 PM |
| 4 | Is there a gene for monogamy?Societies were never mostly polygamous. Polygyny was tolerated and allowed but only a slim minority of men were polygamous. Most every society has been functionally monogamous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:04 PM |
| 4 | The way women behave with men they’re genuinely attracted to is very different compared to the way they behave with men that have merely grown on them.This is kind of true. I'm pretty vanilla and so many women, even on the first hookup, want to do crazy shit...to which I'm like, nah its cool. They almost seem insulted sometimes lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:03 PM |
| – | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManSo the woman makes the first kiss, the woman initiates sex, etc.? See here's the exact point. You view escalation as WORK. I don't. I love boldly escalating on women and prefer it. I mean, guy Y then must be targeting a narrow niche of women. Or dating far far down. But you said that isn't the case so that's really the only other possibility. Typically guys who are passive like that are extremely rejection sensitive (feminine) so gravitate toward more masculine women. Point being, you're trying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 08:00 PM |
| – | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYes and you're assuming the masculine man doesn't want to do what he's doing. I can't speak to your first friend but I know I definitely prefer my way to the other way and it doesn't feel like work in that sense. And you're characterizing the approach as lacking mutual effort and an approach that doesn't make the guy happy, based on one comment some guy made. And I think the generalization is supportable. Direct methods simply get to the goal faster than indirect ones on average. You don't agree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManYes it is you're just not paying attention dude. One is a direct approach the other is indirect. There's effort on both sides. Typically the guys you're talking about hang out with a girl several times and get to know her and just wait for the perfect time to strike. The other guy gets laid a lot faster usually. Now I'm sure you're going to come back with the other guy meets girls the same night and they just throw themselves at him. In which case my response is just that it's either bullshit or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManNow what you're saying checks out regarding the type of women. Thanks for breaking it down. It doesn't feel like work if you enjoy doing it, which is why I started saying effort instead of work. Like I enjoy it so it isn't work to me. But if someone asks me what it's like to pick up chicks, I'd describe it similarly to the first guy: all the escalation and effort is coming from you. You're the leader. As far as styles go, both require effort. Like, I'd roll out solo and kill time at a bar when b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Being a woman was not easierExcept they don't pick up straight women like nothing. Masculine women IME are just walking fountains of penis envy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ ManFor that type of dude. No, for any dude. Unless by high n-count you mean like 30 or 40. I've heard these tales for years, and every time it's the same thing --- the distribution of lays is a bell curve, not a shelf. at least slightly above average compared to the other 100 girls at the bar If they aren't fat, they're already above average anyway. Yeah, developing the skills is a gradual process. But once you have them, it's never hard again. That's kind of my point. Like I said, even when you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/23 01:47 AM |
| 2 | Being a woman was not easierSo you're saying you pick up a lot of straight women. If so, BS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 11:17 PM |
| 0 | Being a woman was not easierDo you have an artificial dick? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Man’s Man vs. Ladies’ Manmost guys I know who rack up numbers like that do so rather easily. They're picky, women meet them with mutual interest and effort, maybe have one cheap “real” date (often, less), hang out for a couple of weeks, part as friends, repeat. It’s play, not work How the fuck do you know? Are you holding their hands through the entire process? The "having one cheap date" thing is true, and the hooking up part is true. Parting as "friends" isn't necessarily true at all. And just because the investment i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Patriarchy 2.0 Is ComingPatriarchy 2.0 is already here. Feminism was co-opted decades ago. You know what's empowering? Sleeping with a bunch of dudes You know which men you should pick, the ones who are [hegonomically masculine] Men who aren't [hegonomically masculine] should be shamed for failing to be [hegonomically masculine] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Which Person Would You Choose To Date?For what? You can have them both if you pick them for different things. Fuck 1 Marry 2. Duh Doy. Have your cake and eat it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Like Attracts Like. If you feel like you're getting the short end of the stick in your dating/relationships, you should stop going for that stick!A guy that believes that he doesn't have any chances, will look for women that he doesn't have a chance with. Manosphere guys will hone in on girls that are toxic and not be interested in women that aren't. Completely made up. If a woman believes that men should modify their standards on her behaviors or actions, since they're the ones at a disadvantage in "the dating market", will attract a lot of men that agree with them. But just because they agree with them doesn't mean that they reach the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:57 PM |
| 4 | Being a woman was not easierMy perspective is biased as someone who doesn't struggle with flirting and dating and has gotten used to being the one that makes the first move, but to me it's a huge relief. So you're just picking up chicks left and right as a trans man? Filed In: Bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Women are just as visual as men. It's just that most men don't elicit this type of attractiona woman passes the 'minimum looks threshold' pretty easily; The looks threshold is inverted for the sexes. For a relationship, women are less looks-focused than men. For casual sex, women are more looks-focused than men. for men there is little variance of how they can look to 'pass the bare minimum' when it comes to physical appearance. Everything seems to be steered toward tall, fit or muscly without anything in between at all. That's not really true. Plenty of guys who aren't tall, particular… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/23 08:51 PM |
| 0 | Some girls are really open to be attracted to all types of guys, others are really judgmentalOh buddy boyo... I usually just think "yeah, hot guys win", but the difference between these girls shows the decent-looking are still in a good spot in the sexual market. ...orrr, you just witnessed two women talking to one another. When women talk to one another you have to remember that just like men they are, more often than not, especially when younger, jockeying for status. The girl fawning over the crooked nose guy may not be that attracted to him but is flaunting an admirer. The girl sayi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 10:44 AM |
| 3 | Why aren't men hypergamous?If the argument is that women are hypergamous in all domains, and in the instance of casual sex, at leaset hypergamous in physical attractiveness, the reason men aren't hypergamous is... ....men are hypergamous but are unable to enact their hypergamy. Women can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 10:38 AM |
| 5 | The reason the group "Are we dating the same guy" is still upI participated in that thread. I'm someone who has posted here about literally being defamed by those boards. I chimed in just to serve as an actual example to answer the many comments who treated a case like mine as mostly hypothetical. Please read my long exchanges in that thread with the users. You will see insane and irrational excuses made for bad behavior, insinuations made about my character based on nothing, literally the same exact 'victim blaming' reasoning feminists claim to be so aga… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/06/23 03:25 AM |
| 1 | male and female attraction are fundamentally different and that’s why things like dating apps flat out don’t workThis is such jive. men are very visual and women are very emotional when it comes to attraction, meaning that for a woman to attract a man, she just has to look good while the man has to make her feel something And what do you think makes her feel something? looking good. In the initial stages of dating, the only single factor that exerts a strong effect is IF YOU LOOK GOOD. For both sexes. The BIGGEST FACTOR, however, is variance, which is just random shit --- her mood that day, your mood, how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Which guy would you want to be?Again there are a ton of reasons that a woman won't orgasm that are beyond a man's control. It's not on the man to make everything happen. And I made the comparison because your logic here is simply unsound. In another context the error becomes obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Which guy would you want to be?Yes. That's called a social script. And no men don't perform just because they direct bedroom activities. That's like saying because a conversation is led by someone only one person is responsible for a good conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 03:40 PM |
| 2 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingThat's nice. When researchers ask women what they're attracted to they say that too. When researchers observe actual choices women make...physical attractiveness trumps everything but literally variance. Which is more likely, women are accurate in their perceptions of confidence or the halo effect making them think someone they are attracted to has a good characteristic? The HS football captain always had scores of girls laughing at his jokes. It must be because he's so funny that stand up comed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 11:11 AM |
| 5 | Which guy would you want to be?In the span of 5 years You left out the most important part: the quality of the women. Having sex with the perfect 10 in looks, femininity, personality, and kindness 1000 times over 5 years beats banging 100 4's over 5 years. But let's assume equality quality --- they're all 10's. The only viable options are options 1 and 2. Here's why: people have emotions. If it's the same knockout quality of woman, then any man is going to get emotionally attached in a short period of time. Option 2 keeps it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:27 AM |
| – | Cheating is bad no matter your genderFirst of all, the reasons men and women cheat are different. Men are more likely to cheat with someone worse than their partner who appreciates them. Women are more likely to cheat with someone better than their partner who pays them attention --- even though this is interpreted as appreciation. Men are less likely to leave the relationship or even think about doing so because they cheated. Women are more likely to do the same. Here's some great stats: 40 percent of cheating women said their lov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 09:15 AM |
| 3 | Question for the 35+ crowdYeah buddy boyo, only 1 in 3 women aren't chubby to some degree. And if your rating system has every chubby woman at a 4 maximum, then I guess men are no different than women: most are chasing the top 25%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 01:02 AM |
| 1 | People who are casual about sex get laid more often than people who aren'tLiterally do what I said and say the neediest shit you can think of. And it's just to prove a point. The meaning you attach to the sex doesn't matter. It may matter after the sex if one person wants more than the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 12:13 AM |
| 3 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingThese idiots called scientists. https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2017/love-actually-science-behind-lust-attraction-companionship/ Like I said either you've never been attracted to someone or you're just posturing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 11:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingIt's uncomfortable for all humans. Attraction causes a biological reaction. Stop trying to flex | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 11:49 PM |
| 2 | People who are casual about sex get laid more often than people who aren'tI don't proclaim anything. I'm the guy in my profile pic. I share my experiences. You can judge how I look for yourself. If your feelings of "would die for" spill, I'd say it's usually a turn-off. This is untrue. I've escalated with lines like "we have such a strong connection." I've escalated (several times) successfully with way over the top maudlin shit. A lot of times women like the urgency of it all. All that matters is that you boldly escalate. Next time you escalate, try this. Give her a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 10:41 PM |
| 3 | Question for the 35+ crowdThat's an average woman. Better or worse, doesn't matter. That's a '5.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Do women value authenticity more than men?They don't understand what "vulnerability" actually means Here comes the rebrand. Vulnerability in dating doesn't mean "spill your guts and talk about your deepest traumas and fears with someone you just met/have been dating for a couple months" Yes, it actually does per the fucking definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vulnerable "open to attack or damage" By presenting deep fears and traumas at such stages in dating, the individual would be opening himself up to attack --- on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:53 PM |
| 2 | Do women value authenticity more than men?Absolutely not. With romantic relationships with men this means they want a man to unapologetically be himself. Maybe, maybe not. This does not mean that they will value his authenticity at the same level, or even close to, other more important traits. Like looks. Like career. Like status. Dating in the initial stages rewards --- behavior-wise, assuming equivalent looks --- first and foremost, men who can lie very well and tell women what they want to hear. The same applies to "bad boys". The ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:50 PM |
| 2 | There are two camps of people in this world , those who swear women have high standards and those who swear they don’t . What causes that different point of view ?INITIALLY Women have low standards regarding most everything but physical attractiveness (objectively. Women underrate male physical attractiveness). Men are talking about physical attractiveness. Women are talking about everything else. So right past each other. Per usual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingMy lived experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:43 PM |
| 0 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseAlso, I'm defining "interest" as interest from men that they actually want (ie men with options That's somewhat true. I'd say there's much less LTR interest from those men. And women tend to only want to date men around their age, unlike men, which is another self-imposed bottleneck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:28 PM |
| 2 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingWhen there's instant sexual attraction, the bar is extremely low for "acceptable" personality and behavior. I'd say the social acumen required is just the ability to not shit yourself in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:20 PM |
| 0 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseBro... Go look at a 35, 45, and even 55 year old woman's tinder and the matches and tell me if there's a huge decline in interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think (some) men are becoming attracted to this?I don't think they are becoming more attracted to masculine women. I think that people are increasingly free to open up about their own preferences and experiences and that the cultural narrative will accept those experiences as valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:17 PM |
| 2 | People who are casual about sex get laid more often than people who aren'tYes, hotness has its' merit, but usually the guys who I see get laid a lot are just more straight-forward and casual about sex, and don't mind just telling girls they want them and escalate things in a non-anxious, non-threatening and kind of funny way. This is true. however, I wouldn't call it being 'casual' about sex. It's just about escalating well. And escalating well comes from experience. You can think sex is the most serious thing in the world or really think that sex would mean the world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingThe success comes from the fact that you are escalating smoothly and effectively, not because your confidence itself is attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingThere's no such thing as confidence without prior success. Confidence in the absent of prior results is just arrogance. Arrogance is better than nothing, and all great things begin with arrogance, but your observation here is trivial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:11 PM |
| 4 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingI disagree that confidence actually generates any attraction. All confidence does is allow the guy to reliably escalate on good prospects and to keep seeking new prospects when on a string of rejections. So it's a very good trait to have, but people often mistake what it is useful for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:10 PM |
| 7 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingattractiveness is important to me as much as personality. i’m not picky if you’re not my type it will forever be that no matter how good their personality is when i can find that in a better looking dude. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingYou're right when we limit your statement to initial meetings. As in a woman meets someone as in nearly instantly very sexually attracted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingHe means instant sexual attraction | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:06 PM |
| 4 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingAttraction, no comfort - "I'm not attracted to him" "I want to fuck him, but that's it and done." No attraction, lots of comfort "What a great friend" High attraction, low comfort "I want to get to know him better and fuck him." Low attraction, high comfort "I like hanging out with him, I'd like to get to know him better." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:06 PM |
| 5 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingAttraction by its nature is uncomfortable. There's a reason people get awkward around people they like. So no, comfort doesn't precede attraction. Attraction precedes comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4W : Are you attracted to him because of his confidence, or is it that he happens to be confident because he’s good lookingInitially... Physical attractiveness is the single trait that takes the plurality. The rest of it is just random --- how you and they interact, her mood and your mood that day, etc. --- aka variance. Variance < looks <<<<<<<<<<<< everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:03 PM |
| 4 | Question for the 35+ crowd37, M, single. My impressions A lot of the men are inordinately obsessed with immature qualities, like a woman's n-count. A lot of the men do exhibit unrealistic beauty standards in that they'll rate a REAL average woman --- 5'4 160+ pounds --- as like a 3 or 4. A lot of men believe in 'game,' defined as making a woman who is not currently attracted to you, attracted to you via behavior. And there are a lot of people here who like to hot take blame men for whatever current dating problems there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 08:01 PM |
| 3 | Men can't determine whether a woman is " post wall" or even overweight/obeseI was hooking for awhile with a girl that looked a lot like that model you posted. Ultimately men can't discern a woman's age especially 18 to 30 whether she's " post wall" The wall itself is more revenge porn than reality --- but the truth kernal is more about a woman's biological clock. That is reality. Bigoted men make appeals to this all the time just to insult bigger body types they don't like even if the woman is healthy. Since overweight/obese = unattractive therefore you should be able t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 07:53 PM |
| 0 | Wanna See What Average Couples Look Like? Check Out the Crowd at Your Local ZooThe big dispute isn't over long term relationships. The big dispute is over casual sex. The idea is that women are only quickly sexually attracted to a small percentage of men. This is what allows those men to "spin plates," as it were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/23 07:49 PM |
| 38 | Update regarding "Are We Dating the Same Guy" Groups: You are FOR SURE being defamedAn old fwb hit me up about it and I explained I'd heard i was on there. And she said that she was surprised by a lot of it. To which she just started sharing the literal comments. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/23 06:04 PM |
| 26 | Update regarding "Are We Dating the Same Guy" Groups: You are FOR SURE being defamedI take all my pictures. So it's fine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/05/23 04:10 PM |
| 5 | What are some observable examples of desirable traits for you?Musts Good communicator Healthy sexuality Smart in the IQ sense Observant in the EQ sense Kind Good boundaries Loyal Pluses Gives good massages Well educated Makes some good $ Some badassness --- idk, maybe does rec drugs lightly, is cool with cars, likes raver music, has kickass tats, just something cool Witty/funny What are some ways you observe these traits outside a relationship? Before choosing to date a woman? The main reason why the first month or two I spend dating someone revolves aroun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 08:15 AM |
| – | Is it a good idea to use autism to your advantage when seducing women?I'm probably somewhere on the spectrum, given that I take a pretty ruthlessly analytical approach to social interaction and generally know I mask a lot in the initial stages of dating. I also have bipolar --- so extremely neurodivergent. But I have the results from my trial and error to streamlined system approach, so as usual...I have some notes was that I told her that autistic guys were good in bed, because of attention to detail Rookie move. Why are you trying to impress some woman like this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 08:04 AM |
| 9 | Relationships are just a carnal diversion. Something we do to stave off boredom at best or a crippling addiction at it's worst (inceldom). All we are really doing is satiating a biological compulsion that is hard wired in all of us. Just sex with extra steps.Romantic relationships? Not so much. Those you can do without. Except love, including romantic love, is a human need. So can any stranger, friend, or hired hand. Boyo, if a stranger, friend, or hired hand knows you as intimately as a romantic partner does --- then you've never had an actual romantic partner. That is why I never said that. We literally do not need each other. Yes, you literally said that. Perhaps not, but my point is that the lack of it will not kill me Something failing to kill … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 07:40 AM |
| 15 | Relationships are just a carnal diversion. Something we do to stave off boredom at best or a crippling addiction at it's worst (inceldom). All we are really doing is satiating a biological compulsion that is hard wired in all of us. Just sex with extra steps.Relationships are a vital component of living a healthy and fulfilling life. A partner can help you in various ways that aren't carnal. Human beings are the most complex social animal. To say that people don't need one another is just flat out incorrect, just per basic science. Relationships are vital to successfully navigating life within broader society and within nature even more broadly. Anyone who makes an OP like yours just seems to have not found or experienced true partnership | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/23 06:16 AM |
| -2 | I’m starting to think Most men who blame their looks are usually nowhere near as ugly as they think.Dude there was a study showing it takes like 60 matches for a meet up and something like 250 for any kind of sexual encounter or relationship to happen. That's for both sexes. Its just the nature of the beast. Guys like me who can beat the odds tend to be pretty methodical and ruthless....due to experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 10:16 PM |
| 0 | CMV : Beauty is relative not subjective, and now we are all compared to the images on our phonesI mean, idk... IRL, shit, even on OLD, women still generally are very complimentary about my looks --- even hot ones --- which suggests that all the super hawt d00d inflation is overplayed. If I were being compared to all of them constantly, I highly doubt I'd be treated so well or get that far because of my appearance. I just think there are limits and thresholds, like amount of people with whatever x quality simply won't appreciate enough for people to stop valuing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 09:16 PM |
| 4 | Why some guys find it so much easier than others (it's not just looks)Brothers are out here are trying to crack the fucking Da Vinci code to win the affection of womenfolk, meanwhile other brothers are naturally attracting ladies by being unapologetically themselves. That's not what is attracting anyone. It's very simple. People who are attractive, attract other people. In the initial stages of dating, men and women value physical appearance at the same level. The guys who are attracting women over time are doing so by being friends first. Being friends first is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 09:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.I'd say most aren't that enthusiastic about it. But gl finding a woman who hasn't been fuckzoned at least once circa 2023 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 08:54 PM |
| 3 | Women love one night stands as much as men doI think women likely follow this strategy you're talking about more often but they also sometimes just want a release and have an extreme amount of cognitive dissonance about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 08:28 PM |
| 10 | I’m starting to think Most men who blame their looks are usually nowhere near as ugly as they think.LOL Men already lower their standards in OLD. That isn't an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 08:18 PM |
| 13 | Women love one night stands as much as men doFrom what I've seen women often engage in casual sex in the hopes the man will then feel attached and want something more That's not 'women liking ONS as much as men do.' That's women having ulterior motives with casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Women love one night stands as much as men doI'm so tired of hearing how women are used for sex by top tier guys. A lot of these women love having sex with top tier guys I mean, women one night stand men too... ..it's something that isn't talked about much, or is talked about with the very reductive 'OH LOL SEX MUST HAVE BEEN BAD LOLOL!!!11' 'analysis.' Having said that... I have female friends who brag You knowing some superficial females who "brag" about getting laid --- read: immature --- doesn't mean much. Literally just last night my … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 08:06 PM |
| 23 | I’m starting to think Most men who blame their looks are usually nowhere near as ugly as they think.Yeah, except most men who 'blame their looks' aren't doing so without evidence. Imagine if you got on tinder and got 0 matches for the first few months, or hey, maybe you got a few but they were all women you'd never in a million years be interested in. Maybe then your impression would be different. The fact of the matter, straight from data on OLD apps is that it's winner take all. So yeah sure, there's some slight % of men who hold themselves back because they erroneously believe there's somet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 07:47 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.Lol gl finding a woman who hasn't been fuckzoned circa 2023 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/23 07:10 PM |
| 4 | It is not unfair that more should be expected of Men.I agree. You said that dumb shit. But hey...continue to assume that the flowery word salad OP outputs something beyond baseless assertions, nebulous qualities, and incorrect logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:33 PM |
| 10 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.literally no data from OLD supports ugly low value guys getting many if any matches at all. So I guess you're just someone who likes talking out of their ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:18 PM |
| 8 | It is not unfair that more should be expected of Men.Your words don't need help to be fucked, buddy boyo. You said men can literally do more so it is fine for them to be expected to do more. That doesn't necessarily follow. I invite you to learn logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:13 PM |
| 10 | It is not unfair that more should be expected of Men.This view is pretty nonsensical. Men and women have biological differences. However the ones you assume are either exaggerated, i.e. regarding emotional capability or completely made up, (greater ability to reach potential? Wtf does that even mean). Further, even if you assume what you're saying is how it is and it's pretty far from Earth, you still fail to show why it is fair to expect more. That someone can do more != fair to expect them to do more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 09:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.Yeah bro, because chicks are just matching with tons of "dusty" ugly low value men. Logic, not even once. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 09:01 PM |
| 31 | CMV: The most obvious reason why modern dating is broken is because women have too many options because of the internet.This is the first time in human history where your average woman next door has hundreds of male suitors in her back pocket. Women literally have always had tons of options for casual sex. Historically, most people dated in their small social circle Which mostly had to suck. Guess what happens in small social circles? The exact same thing that happens in OLD --- winner take all. Further, back then if female options were "more limited" imagine how limited a guy's options were? Even if you're in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Realized I have deep seated issues with intimacy.this has to be a troll | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 02:53 PM |
| – | CMV: Both men and women are forced into a perpetual state of political correctness and virtue signalling and despite the mutual understanding we choose to be in denial even when it comes to our potential partner.It's not my burden to back up basic entry level knowledge on any topic. Just like it's not my burden to back up the sky being blue. You can ignore it though and reveal your ignorance of the topic. That's fine 🙂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:34 AM |
| – | CMV: Both men and women are forced into a perpetual state of political correctness and virtue signalling and despite the mutual understanding we choose to be in denial even when it comes to our potential partner.Go familiarize yourself with 101 level knowledge. Not my job to do that for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:19 AM |
| – | CMV: Both men and women are forced into a perpetual state of political correctness and virtue signalling and despite the mutual understanding we choose to be in denial even when it comes to our potential partner.And yet several social constructs are recognized and dealt with on the level of instinct. Like maybe do research before making proclamations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:04 AM |
| – | Most men and women are really bad at detecting flirtingIDK the way this reads it sounds like you're just straight up asking a super shy girl if she likes you, and then rattling off a laundry list of the 'REEEZONS.' You want to know if a girl likes you, make a fucking move. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 11:01 AM |
| 3 | what's the deal with "nice guy" stereotype and why there isn't an equivalent term for women?It's fast becoming like the label 'creep' in that it's just another way to shame someone who isn't attractive to the opposite sex. In this instance for inoffensive, kind behavior. A 'creep' engages in offensive behavior. Nice guy and creep = the entire spectrum of what you are as a man when the opposite sex finds you unattractive. no equivalent term for women concealing their honest thoughts/feelings LOL it's called them being women Women are socialized to be indirect and coy about negative feel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 10:55 AM |
| – | CMV: Both men and women are forced into a perpetual state of political correctness and virtue signalling and despite the mutual understanding we choose to be in denial even when it comes to our potential partner.Let's just accept, for the sake of argument, that people pick their long-term partners based on superficial metrics --- i.e. looks money status for men, and youth/beauty for women. Even if that were true it still does not follow that people choose to be in denial or are virtue signaling at all. A rudimentary example would be a woman who wants to feel 'safe' with her partner and values that highly. But what seems to reliably elicit that 'safety' is a man who is really tall. She's not 'virtue sign… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 10:51 AM |
| 12 | Confused about how open and emotional guys are expected to be?I hate this mindset among men. 'what do I do to get x girl...' the fuck? It should be: 'how do i find the girls who are cool enough to hang with me/aren't idiots/are quality x i like --- who like me?' Like, seriously. If even just one woman has ever fucked you, many many more will. They're just out there waiting for you to find them. Stop worrying about how to convince 'maybe' or 'no' chicks to sleep with you. Just focus on finding the 'yes' chicks. Hence --- be your fucking self. The second som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Realized I have deep seated issues with intimacy.I subconciously rejected a super attractive good looking woman today who I was very physically attracted to because I was made nervous by her attractiveness. She was acting interested in me, and I lacked the confidence to reciprocate that interest. then you have no idea what you did or didn't even lose, buddy boyo. Which is why I hate how otherwise taken guys love to gloat on about 'oh I could have had/done such and such' bullshit. Anyone with a lot of experience knows that the distance from inn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/23 10:39 AM |
| 1 | What makes you think the “unlucky” men are average?Nope. Casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 02:18 PM |
| 2 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Because there is another path… some of us don’t allow lust and shallow emotions to rule and risk completely disrupting their life? That other path sounds boring AF, ngl. It depends on the person. Some people are more the thrill-seeking type (me). Some people are more the secure-thrill type. Others are just the secure type, aka risk-averse, which it sounds like you are. Rather than grandstand your position into one ruled by the superior logos, recognize that it's ruled ultimately by an emotion as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Why does logic and prudence usually get thrown out the window when it comes to dating?Why do logic and prudence go out the window in a domain governed by emotion? Is this a question? Buddy boyo, imagine a very hot woman. This woman gives you the best sex of your life....every time. Makes you feel like the manliest man ever. Better yet, the entire social group high fives you for snagging this chick. But let's say she has a slight....heroin thing. Or is pretty boring to talk to. Or [insert glaring red flag here]... ...is it somehow difficult for you to see why logic and prudence wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:52 AM |
| 2 | What makes you think the “unlucky” men are average?How many people are going to keep misunderstanding the 80/20 thing? It applies to CASUAL SEX. Not relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:41 AM |
| 22 | "Self-improvement" makes you jaded even if it works for dating.I'd say more that knowing truth and letting pretty lies perish is what jades people. Love isn't unconditional. Women are drawn first to amoral attributes and prefer those attributes in many, if not most, cases even when they come with an immoral character. Women also at bottom are sex and procreation objects and nothing they do in society will let them escape that fact, which becomes increasingly obvious as they age. Men are pathetic, disposable, and essentially culturally groomed to be beggars … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/23 07:34 AM |
| – | Why are men so obsessed with carrying on their bloodline?Um. Basic biology? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 10:59 PM |
| 0 | Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your AttractivenessMost men's genetics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your AttractivenessNo many men won't have angular features at all... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | How often does the average man have sex, if he is not a player?Slowly escalate and see how they respond. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:46 PM |
| 1 | How do redpillers explain the engagement of jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez?Women are also most attracted to hawt guys yet they tend to end up in relationships with not-so-hawt guys. The people you want to fuck aren't necessarily the people you want to be in a relationship with. I mean, why would you subject yourself to a relationship let alone marriage to a woman who is for all intents and purposes, still a teenager. Sounds greeeeeaaat.... Shit, this year I've been with a 23 year old and a 24 year old (I'm 37) and under no circumstances would I ever get into a relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:43 PM |
| 5 | What relationship advice would you give to people aged 18-25?18-25? LOL The odds of you having a lasting relationship or marriage are low, 5%. The rise in non-monogamous relationships, as well as the rise in infidelity will affect you in some way. Plan accordingly. Understand that your partner getting bored of you is not a matter of if it's a matter of when. Maintaining yourself in more or less the same physical state that your partner met you in is the key to them sticking around after the boredom sets in. Better: becoming better. If your partner consist… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:40 PM |
| 8 | Bodyfat Percentage Is The Single Most Important Controllable Factor That Determines Your AttractivenessUnless you're on steroids, going below 10% bodyfat really isn't that advisable because with clothes on you'll look kinda like a skeleton. If your features ain't chiseled at 10% bodyfat, then you won't have them and look emaciated at 8%. Good structure is good structure and can be readily identified way before 10% bodyfat. Even when I think my face is round af when I'm a bit bigger people still comment on how angular it is. A guy who has a 'meh' face should probably roid out and get that fitness … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Women are ultimately hurting themselves when they refuse to approach and caution guys against approachingNo they aren't. Women like guys who break rules well. There's an art to sort of ignoring what women say while respecting women at the same time. They enjoy that. I've been approached and hit on numerous times, but a lot of times when women do it, it's not that serious (at least from the really pretty ones). at least anecdotally the guys I know who don’t really approach women these days are the more empathetic stable trustworthy guys - better long term partners) But approaching strange women is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:30 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Friends with Benefits is a romantic relationship in denialMy take on it may be Grade A copium, but here goes... Typically friends with benefits arrangements don't work because those entering into it usually fail to do so on equal footing. Either the guy has more or better options, or the girl does. So one side is at risk of getting their feels hurt. If a guy is too unattainable or too incompatible a girl will likely sleep with him once or twice and just bounce, i.e. potential to get attached to the wrong guy. Hence the "ONS" with the super hawt dude. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Most women don't need a "hoe phase" for the 80/20 argument to hold10-20 of men men will have several women on rotation. Not necessarily. Even in your post you said 'each woman has casual once.' A lot of women may just be after the thrill of a ONS. she will see this as a opportunity she might eventually convince him that she is 'the one' for him Sometimes, other times they pretty quickly realize the dude just wants sex and drop him. she will she will be rejecting less-than-hot guys left and right , because in her eyes the casual with a stud could always lead to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 03:10 PM |
| 1 | How often does the average man have sex, if he is not a player?I can give you actual advice. In my comment I listed out the factors that put people in the right situations to get laid and pull from bars, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 03:06 PM |
| 3 | How often does the average man have sex, if he is not a player?You can take my anecdote for what it's worth, but typically, to pull a woman from a bar you need to have logistics figured out. I pulled a lot of women from this bar right across the street from my place when I lived pretty much on my university's campus in an apartment. You talk to her, have a few things in common, then you just walk across the street to do [plausible deniability activity here]. It helps to look good, but more important is to screen women for the ones who are sexually available… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | How often does the average man have sex, if he is not a player?You can look at the GSS for this. The majority of men just have one partner per year --- i.e. are in relationships. Add in men who get no sex and you have a large majority of men. In the US 5-10 partners in a year puts you in the top 5-2%. I don't think going to a bar and finding a girl to hook up with is something that happens often Maybe not anymore, but it used to be pretty standard --- at least for me. for the average guy at least, not talking about Henry Cavill types I figure while I have a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 02:59 PM |
| 1 | Women who tell men to "be confident" as a solution to dating issues are unaware that there has been a decades long societal shift to prevent most young men from developing ANY confidence to start with, which stunts the ability to ever develop relationships later.That will quickly set you apart. The question is...do you really want to have a relationship with one of these women, though...is the effort ultimately worth it? That's true. I'm noticing a trend where women are far more comfortable using men for sex or a ONS than they once were. Makes you wonder. However, I have a system --- I screen hard for quality women, so it doesn't bother me if I have to bang however many to find one good one. All you can do is adapt to the prevailing conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 02:53 PM |
| – | What's the point in adjusting who you are in order to be attractive, if you're not yourself anymore?There's no such thing as "you" just the sum of your experiences and actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 05:48 AM |
| 0 | Women who tell men to "be confident" as a solution to dating issues are unaware that there has been a decades long societal shift to prevent most young men from developing ANY confidence to start with, which stunts the ability to ever develop relationships later.Oh christ boohoo society blah blah blah. Confidence is earned. It involves first believing you can do something and setting forth to do it. Most guys these days are like women and terrified of the very things that bestow confidence: overcoming fear, failure, determination. Women always excitedly remark on how straightforward and bold I am these days. Years ago those same moves were pretty much considered standard cool guy maneuvers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 05:45 AM |
| 2 | Isn't this red pill thinking? Girls will choose attractive jocks over quiet nerds, even if they are equally misogynistic.It's not red pill. It's literally making a demarcation based on LOOKS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 05:41 AM |
| 2 | Does PUA actually work?No. There's no game that will cause a woman who isn't attracted to you to become attracted to you. However if by game you mean escalating on a woman who is attracted to you. Then yes. And once you become fearless with it it becomes a near superpower for getting into a girl's pants quickly. But ultimately, a lot of those will be one night stands or you'll be the guy they'd fuck but never date. Some of us are fine with that lol But you have to build your romantic value too if you want to keep wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/23 05:37 AM |
| 1 | How do I handle dry conversations?She's just jot that into you. Move on. | /r/MenSupportMen | 22/05/23 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Good men or nice guys?Nothing. Any personality characteristic a woman ascribes to a man in the beginning is simply a function of how attracted she is to him. As usual, pay no heed. | /r/MenSupportMen | 22/05/23 11:32 PM |
| 5 | Both genders are really bad at gauging what “average” looks like when it comes to discussions about looks and ratingsAn american '5' is a woman who's like 5'4 and weighs 165 pounds or so. So, chubby. Emma Watson, Olivia Munn and Natalie Portman “mid Idk, I bet the people claiming that have never slept with people nearly as hot as those celebrities, so who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Women can be borderline autistic, even mentally and socially retarded and they will still be able to get guys, have dating options, overall, still be able to get into a relationship, but not so much the other way around.If you look good as a man, you can be a lot of those things and still get attention from women. I guess you know what to do, fam. Or if you want to be desirable to a bunch of men --- turn gay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 10:00 PM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Escalating too far, too fast. But even then, if you ever see them again they're still attracted to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:13 PM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.An attractive guy hitting on a lot of girls at a party = viewed as confident. I've hit on a lot of girls at a party and struck out with like 80%. didn't really harm me with the ones who were interested. I've blown up a girl's phone with texts and have her be really down for and into it. Like all these personality assessments are mainly fueled by her attraction to you. What I can say is that pushing things too fast and escalating too far with a woman can cause you to lose them because they get ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:11 PM |
| 2 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Desperation/being needy/trying too hard are all subjective assessments and a woman's perceptions on them will vary wildly depending on how attractive you are. Hit the nail on the head. Pretty much every personality attribute a woman labels you with near the beginning is meaningless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Yeah, there are "many other factors" and pretty much none of them are in your control. It may as well be variance. Hence looks + variance = results. You might not be "interested" in focusing on a single factor, but in the short-term, it's pretty much the only factor somewhat in your control that matters. I'm not really willing to explore stuff that isn't true or real. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | A question for young men on what you value when it comes to dating apps / dating in general.I'm open to anything. If a great girl comes from a datinf app, great, if it's just a one night thing, cool too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:04 AM |
| 31 | The fear of not getting sex can sometimes be the main cause of not getting sex.Lol the cause of not getting sex is not looking good enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:02 AM |
| 1 | ICK Discussion ThreadLol nice troll ✌️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 05:01 AM |
| 1 | ICK Discussion ThreadDon't get ahead of your self, You only found one. No, buddy boyo, I cited two. You can't handwave away things you don't like. You have yet to provide anything. As for the wiki article lol... Nice try: although research indicates that female ejaculation and squirting are different phenomena Squirting, specifically, is urine. In these research publications, it is suggested that "real" female ejaculation is the release of a very scanty, thick, and whitish fluid from the Skene's gland, while the "sq… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/23 03:40 AM |
| 3 | ICK Discussion ThreadYa sure dude two studies finding the same thing is a "baseless claim." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 09:56 PM |
| 3 | ICK Discussion Threadhttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25545022/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A%20The%20present%20data%20based,the%20emitted%20fluid%20often%20exists. Yeah bro, everyone is lying due to the profit motive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 08:03 PM |
| 1 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexExcept I'm the one who ends the date and leaves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 07:23 PM |
| 4 | ICK Discussion ThreadYa bro it's in the abstract | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 06:44 PM |
| 11 | ICK Discussion Threadhttps://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/iju.15004 Sure bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 08:39 AM |
| 2 | Being choked out during sexoh shit, sorry. Yeah man, I'm just not into all that shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:45 AM |
| 11 | ICK Discussion ThreadThis pretty hot chick who squirted all over me and my bed constantly. Anyone in the know knows that squirting is just piss. So she was essentially pissing all over the place when we fucked. Gross. Such a turn off. Ghost protocol was initiated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:43 AM |
| – | Being an orbiter does provide some benefitsOrbiting has been proven time and time again to be perhaps the only and best strategy at overcoming a woman's "looks threshold" and getting her to become attracted to you physically. The research is there. Just because I don't want to stick around and wait for that kind of thing doesn't mean that strategy doesn't have its perks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:42 AM |
| 7 | Being choked out during sexOne of my "what the fuck am I even doing?" moments in the game was when I hooked up with this hot blonde tatted chick in the parking lot, in her car, where I met her, and we're just going at it in the backseat, and she tells me to choke her....and I did. And I'd gotten so good at it, the reaction was automatic, the execution was flawless. I like had an out of body experience... I don't even like this shit...how many women have I choked and didn't really want to? The fuck am I doing with my life?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you want women to think you are easy?I don't give a shit. Part of women thinking you're a player or womanizer is this assumption --- that you say and do x with every girl. And women who think they pull guys simply do not understand how it works. Once I heard a woman (who I was in the process of seducing) talk about how "she's really good at seduction." Because we all know the maxim --- do you want to be right, or do you want to get laid? --- I stifled a laugh and the urge to challenge the statement. Whether they believe I'd sleep w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:54 AM |
| 5 | I regularly see women say on here that men overrate their own appearance, but women are guilty of this to a significantly higher degree.Yes and no. Do I think women overrate their appearance for casual sex? Nope. They've got the results and scoreboards. Do I think women overrate their appearance for relationships? In many cases, definitely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:50 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Sugar dating is a perfectly viable and maybe even recommendable dating strategy for some men and womenIt's actually shocking how many 'situations' start out because of financial power a man has over a woman, and I'm not talking about direct sugar babying. It could be a chick who is kicked out of her parent's house/evicted/whatever, so she gets a job babysitting some guy's kid. Or finds a guy willing to put her up in his place, etc. Seriously nuts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Is "trying" overrated?Yes, it is good advice. Most men these days it seems are very afraid of pulling the goddamned trigger. You can see it in the questions they ask: "I had a GREAT first date, we talked for hours, but why did she ghost me?" Because you didn't do your job. Women talk. Men do. The game is very simple: red light, green light. Men it seems have forgotten how to play this game. Do you think most men who get relationships genuinely tried? Probably not. And most men have shit relationships with shit terms.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:42 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Dating gets harder for men as they get older, not easierAnecdotally for me dating has been way, way easier than it was in my 20's. Like night/day. Part of this is just fortune --- I'd been heavy for most of my 20's and got pretty shredded at around 28/29. I had a lot of eh, "facial structure" beneath the fat, as well. Plus, I had just come into a six figure income and a high status professional career. But The bigger part of this is experience. Learning how to screen for sexually available women and extract maximum value while minimizing loss was the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexNo need to call the authorities. It's enough just to say 'next!' and move on :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/23 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexLol this is untrue. Most guys are taking women on several dates, many of which are event dates. Most of the guys women seem to be =attracted to= have attitudes more like mine tho | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:26 PM |
| -1 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexNah they can open their legs on date 2, i.e. invested 1 date. Date 2 is at someone's house. And I'm not complaining about my situation, that's just the situation for most guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 09:16 PM |
| 3 | How has dating changed substantially in the last ten years?The spaces where it's acceptable to approach women in a romantic way have dwindled. Clubs are declining in popularity. Dating apps have largely become winner-take-all markets and they get tougher roughly every year or so. Matching on a dating app is far less meaningful than it once was, regarding whether you get a reply/opener or not. Women seem to be getting cooler with one night standing guys Women seem to increasingly be categorizing men into two camps --- 'fuck' and 'marry,' --- which is why… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?It's skewed in the sense that good looking guys have casual sex easier, but a lot of times women will just use you for sex. That's something normal guys don't have to deal with. If a woman is with a normal guy, chances are she is definitely interested in an actual relationship. There's nuance to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 04:41 PM |
| 13 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexThat's not what I said. Lazy men use porn because they don’t have to make any effort. The word 'lazy' is so ideologically driven and obviously meant to shame whoever for failing to follow an agenda. Point blank: a lot of guys use porn because it is a better use of their time. The effort involved for the average guy to get laid is stupendous. I hear about all these guys who go on 5+ dates, dinner dates, event dates, blah blah blah for women who 'hm and haw' over them while dating multiple other g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 02:57 AM |
| 9 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?LOL Women accept all sorts of red flags --- especially for one night Ask me how I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 02:54 AM |
| 9 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?Who cares. The hoe is who let it all happen. Don't ever fight over a hoe. Be glad someone showed you who she was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.Seems like as a man you just need to satisfy some sort of business need for a client or employer though to be seen as valuable in life. The entire system of labor for money is forced on people from birth. It's not like it's a law of nature. This system needs people to buy into it. For people to buy in, the system must keep enough people on some level, happy. Then incentivize men to not drop out of society. What does this have to do with the OP by the way? The OP stated "at this point I think it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:13 PM |
| 31 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?LOL The biggest red flag IS NOT LOOKING GOOD buddy boyo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:05 PM |
| 14 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?Why fight over a hoe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:03 PM |
| 3 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?Maybe your a chad and still very attractive but because your a victor or athlete that demonstrates the will to want to win at any game, does that give more satisfaction for women to still sleep with you? No. How do I know this? My profession is a high status profession. No woman has ever slept with me quickly because of it --- in fact most don't even bother to ask me about it. Status only becomes relevant once a woman considers you for the long haul. Still a chad but how many girls on campus sti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Discussion : Whats the most eye opening real life example of TRP in action you’ve ever experienced?That's not TRP. That's just good looking guys get laid, news at 11. You get smart, creative, stupid, loud, quiet, shy, confident, nasty and nice women from lots of different kinds of professions Who all place a high premium on looks. Australian fitness influencer His status isn't why he got laid. He looks good. That's why he got laid. So anybody else have anything similar? I have never seen the 'tactics' of TRP make a woman who was otherwise unattracted to a man, become attracted to him. I've se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 09:00 PM |
| 3 | On top of the other obvious issues men face, there is literally no acceptable time or place to approach a woman, even once mutual attraction has been established. Women simply do not want to be bothered, leaving almost everything to chance encounters and organic interactions.Women here will say they are perfectly fine with being approached by a man respectfully, so long as he isn’t “creepy” or pushy about it but I have seen significant evidence to the contrary. I have seen girls fall flat on their face to let a man know she is attracted to them, only to give him the cold shoulder once he works up the nerve to approach. Yup buddy boyo, happens all the time --- you gotta charge it to the game. Women will make out with you and do the same. They'll fuck you and do the s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.Disgust you because you have unresolved trauma. Oh the armchair psychoanalyzing begins... ...or he just doesn't want to associate with people who have different values. Your gonna have a hard time meeting someone who is or hasn’t been in an open relationship of some form Not really. Less than a fifth of people have been in some non-monogamous relationship, and of those, most wouldn't do it again. If anything, non-monogamy will settle at whatever small % and stay there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Men are entitled to some things, they just aren't entitled to others caring.There's a much easier and less text-dense way to put it. We live in a society. The society is structured so that a lot of power is concentrated within the hands of a few. The vast majority of people have to essentially agree to work some form of a 9-5 that they don't necessarily like, to make someone else rich, in order to live. That's the expectation which is shrouded as 'you need to make money using your labor,' (while the few can just use money to make more money). In return for this expectat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:43 PM |
| 5 | The internet, and society in general, does not offer the ideal dating/relationship advice. To anyone.Human romantic relationships are much like art, it is subjective in nature. Not really. The preferences of men and women tend to follow the prescriptions set out by culture. People are less individualistic than they realize. Still however, the gap in our personalities leads us to present dating advice that does not work to attract the ideal partner for every person Buddy boyo, (1) looking good (2) being successful and (3) having cash will always be a winning combo for a man. It's universal curre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:39 PM |
| 14 | Porn is the main cause of the recent decline in relationships and sexI am not saying this is the only reason, but I would argue that the biggest contributing factor to this decline is the prevelance of porn use. That's like saying a band-aid is the major cause of a wound. I would argue that 20 years ago dating was about as difficult, risky and stressful as it is now, especially for young men, but men's innate sex drive pushed them to overcome these obstacles. I'm unsure how you could state that a world where women simply had fewer options because they were limite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 08:37 PM |
| 6 | CMV : women don’t have an easier experience dating. It’s just as hard. But that’s because they’re playing in a higher league.Most women don’t want casual sex so having easier access to that is absolutely worthless. They don't want casual sex until they do. Most people have had a one night stand, and most people have engaged in casual sex at some point in their lives. Imagine that you’re allergic to shellfish and you win a lifetime supply of shrimp…not exactly a valuable win if it makes you itchy and sick, is it? Except this isn't the analogy. Let's say that of the men women are interested in about 80% just want them f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 02:39 AM |
| 1 | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.I do have an annoying habit of reminding people who elect themselves 'representative of all my gender,' that they are in fact, just one person with an opinion. Congrats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 09:29 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.thanks for admitting you're wrong. Much love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalLook you wanna be a quitter, be a quitter | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 08:07 PM |
| -1 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalVariance can be next to impossible if you have mental health issues, such as autism. You don't have any control over the variance, it's not affected by that shit --- at least in the initial stages. Your neurodivergent behaviors, even autism, will be tolerated if she's attracted to you. After she fucks you a time or two, though, then she may consider them. As for social circles/friendships…. well again, see autism. Is your point that it sucks for autistic men? I mean, yeah, duh doy. That's why yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:59 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Holy shit a few women on reddit agreed with you? I guess that's a good sample size, then. Oh wait a minute, I've come across many women who have preferred an alternate approach, especially when looking for casual sex. You're not looking for casual sex. You're looking for a man willing to invest in you at the level of a boyfriend without investing in him like a girlfriend, which is why the women are agreeing with you, mainly because a lot of women aren't into casual sex and so the boyfriend appro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:57 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Well, for her at least, it's what the men she swiped on are saying lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:54 PM |
| -1 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalIf you can’t get past the looks attractive in the initial stage, none of that stuff for later, such as personality, matters. I agree that in a dating context two things matter: looks and variance. Variance is probably more important than looks and includes how you and her particularly interact ("chemistry") her mood that day, her circumstances in life, etc. Looks is the main factor in your control (or has anything to do with you) that matters. However, in a different context --- like friendship … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:49 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.Like everything in life, it's just about reading the room. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 07:46 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.You're forgetting that even if you're getting swiped on --- that's just the first step in the pipeline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:52 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.not really. Some women get off on that shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:44 PM |
| – | You wanna know why it’s hard for men to find casual sex? I’ll tell you why.I have had hundreds of messages and you want to know how many I replied to? Three. Congrats, you can be as arbitrarily picky as you want (as your laundry list shows) because you have such abundance. The problem is a lot of men don’t read what us women are looking for in terms of sex and they “shoot their shot” and still get mad when we don’t respond. LOL if a guy opens with 'hey slut' he really doesn't give two shits about you. they were very kind and wanted to talk about ourselves first rather … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV : women don’t have an easier experience dating. It’s just as hard. But that’s because they’re playing in a higher league.https://media2.giphy.com/media/l1I0masi5OlELEMGG1/giphy.gif | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV : women don’t have an easier experience dating. It’s just as hard. But that’s because they’re playing in a higher league.Women have it much easier in dating simply because they have more "casual dating" options. Even the most attractive man will not have as many options as even a woman significantly less attractive than him. ends up not getting what they want and therefore “struggles” and complains they have a tough time dating And what about when they're just horny and need to scratch a one time itch? They can order up an attractive guy for that, too. Most men may get dates with women, Except they don't, or at le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:29 PM |
| 6 | I think it's bullshit that there's a "compliment gap" between men and women. What these men really want is sexual validation.I think this idea is utter bullshit because a lot of the compliments given to women by random men are solely used to try to flirt with her. So what? If anything, compliments the speaker is willing to back up with action are more genuine than all the compliments where the speaker fails to put their money where their mouth is. Women call me handsome and hot all the time, but it doesn't necessarily mean they want to sleep with me (at that time at least). It's not necessarily a compliment given out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 14 | Men often don’t understand that physical attraction is not optionalBoth have a looks bar and both have a bar for personality, values, all the other things So buddy boyo, this is only partially correct. In the initial stages of dating (where people make the decision about who to be with), you're absolutely right --- looks + variance = result. However over time, a good personality works to make someone more physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:20 PM |
| 13 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupA man is penalized more for it than a woman is. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 09:46 PM |
| 5 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupMaybe. I'll have to weigh a lot of factors before disclosure. Each situation will be different. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 2 | All humans (to variable degrees) value something that is more scarce. And all humans say that they value authenticity. Which is the way in the context of dating?Scarcity isn't valued for its own sake. A truly ugly person is more scarce than an average looking person, yet the ugly person is not valued more. Culture shapes ideals that by design can only be approximated by a small number of people. Culture provides the value, not the scarcity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Most women aren't on dating apps. So how are they getting relationships or having sex?They are part of social groups, they meet men there. /fin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 05:27 PM |
| 5 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupmaybe next girl to bring it up to her beforehand I'm gonna have to, I think. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 05:23 PM |
| 14 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupLOL And what about these women who may have used me for sex without any of them, despite having a chance to be honest and open about it, being truthful? All of them said they were hoping for a relationship. Not in terms of abuse but in terms of what they want from a partner. I disagree. I think when a woman is actually highly sexually/physically attracted to a man, regardless of her relationship intentions, she will sleep with that man pretty quickly. Roughly within idk, 3-4 hours. So likely on … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 05:08 PM |
| 48 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupOf course, another irony here is that if these women were just using me for sex, that'd be the exact thing to put on one of these boards --- none of them came out and said they just wanted sex. All of them said they were interested in a relationship. Like, will the double standards ever stop? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 02:00 PM |
| 41 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupHoly fuck. I'm so sorry about that man. Idk it's only a matter of time before the same happens to me I figure. What's fucked up is that like I said a lot of these women play the field themselves and are certified nutcases | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?If I was asked and I have been, I'd evade the question or shrug it off like I always do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 01:11 PM |
| 9 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupAnd it's all one-sided | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 01:10 PM |
| 8 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupThis chick was 27 | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 01:08 PM |
| 38 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupUm even if it does, the fact that such a minor thing is trumped up as "red flag" means that these places aren't about protecting from abuse or violence | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 01:04 PM |
| 6 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupApologies | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 01:02 PM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?I would never ask such a fucktarded "I'm the prize" question. It'd be good etiquette for the asker to first tell what they bring to a relationship to avoid the appearance of being a conceited assclown. Your offense to my offense suggests that you may be an asker of fucktarded questions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 12:20 PM |
| 7 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupNo I'm open to a relationship I just like a month or two of casual intimacy to get to know people. Like I said when they've agreed to be exclusive I honor it. What's going wrong is that this group is affecting my dating prospects. I just said that 2 girls I've contacted have blocked me based on it, as well as at least one confirmed instance of a girl I was getting to know terminating things. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 12:18 PM |
| 17 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupYa that's what I thought when she said that shit lmao | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 11:57 AM |
| 67 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupWell I mean these women and all the women I've been with in the last two years haven't been my girlfriend. And I haven't abused or hit any of them. I don't have any rape kinks or shit like that. So I can't be in there to promote the safety of women. It has to be just bullshit gossip | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 11:39 AM |
| 16 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupI've asked the chicks who I messaged what they were. And they immediately blocked me. I have no idea where they got the red flags or what they say. I only know I've been told there are over 100 comments. And yeah I'd like to know which too. I mean I tend to push for sex early but the ones I have sex with are pretty enthusiastic about it. If they aren't about it, I politely just exit the date. Women tend to apparently get player vibes from me ranging from responses like "you're so forward" to tha… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 11:35 AM |
| – | Stoicism is heavily misunderstood by the manosphere and radfems, and this misunderstanding drives the whole debate on the philosophyFor you to think most philosophy can't be pared down to that length is embarrassing. Did the Emperor have clothes for you, too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:47 AM |
| – | Stoicism is heavily misunderstood by the manosphere and radfems, and this misunderstanding drives the whole debate on the philosophyRelative to you, indeed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:39 AM |
| 23 | Starting to experience the effects of being posted in an "Are we dating the same guy?" FB groupIdk man several women I've just messaged on apps have cut off contact because "I have red flags." Of course women will do that, they're socialized into it. Otherwise great women can be susceptible to group think. Being used for sex is fine, except them framing it as something I did or whatever that caused them to back off isn't cool and I don't know why women pull that shit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/05/23 10:38 AM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?I mean they instinctively know when competing for those guys to look their youngest and best which is why they spend so much time and effort doing so and complaining about the standards "men" hold them to (meaning top men). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:35 AM |
| – | Stoicism is heavily misunderstood by the manosphere and radfems, and this misunderstanding drives the whole debate on the philosophyK normal people can be happy while in peril and mortal illness, that's in accordance with the nature of humanity. Sure buddy boyo. You don't understand how to separate fantasy ideals from practically useful ethics. You probably like Plato, too. Gross. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:34 AM |
| 25 | Men need to stop putting Women on a pedestal for pussy/brownie points & let them get more used to being humblehumanity has become familiar with the idea that sex sells Buddy boyo, that ain't a new idea in the slightest. and the gold standard in that industry is a moderately attractive woman. Not really. Fat women, older women, and some downright sorta gross women have followings. Now this discovery wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for weak men willing to throw away their money, morals, and even family to engage in this economy. Red light districts have been around since the dawn of civilization. What … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Stoicism is heavily misunderstood by the manosphere and radfems, and this misunderstanding drives the whole debate on the philosophyMy reference is knowing what stoicism actually is, so take your fight to the truth; have at it. A Stoic of virtue, by contrast, would amend his will to suit the world and remain, in the words of Epictetus, "sick and yet happy, in peril and yet happy, dying and yet happy, in exile and happy, in disgrace and happy" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoicism Aka, remain inhuman. Contrasted with cynicism, which is dope As reasoning creatures, people can gain happiness by rigorous training and by living … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 10:23 AM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?I don't. Men are beating down their door with offers of relationships, so obviously it makes sense for them to believe that whatever little they bring is enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 09:43 AM |
| 1 | Young Men Cannot Compete With Older Men For The Most Attractive Femalesthe upper echelon of older men are often literally superior in every category to 99% of younger men, including physically your entire OP is based around a trivially true premise --- the elite of a group will indeed likely perform well against the average of another group. Take elite young men --- the rockstars, rappers, sports stars, etc. --- and stack them up against your older doctors, lawyers, tycoons, and whatever, and you'd probably see the former group clean up against latter group among y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 09:42 AM |
| 4 | Dating apps are a good thingIts also great for casual sex. I mean anyone looking for casual sex can simply go on there and before long you will find someone For me and an increasingly dwindling number of men, sure. For the majority of men, no it isn't. And most women aren't that interested in casual sex. So all the men who want to have casual sex are competing for the thin slice of women who are down and open to casual sex. I dont get why guys complain about dating apps when they literally give you access to thousands of h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 09:39 AM |
| 0 | Stoicism is heavily misunderstood by the manosphere and radfems, and this misunderstanding drives the whole debate on the philosophyStoicism in itself is a great philosophy to live by No it isn't. It's a puny girlyman philosophy. The main function of stoicism is to base your emotional perception of a situation on reality and accept what is and isn’t in your control based off reality Problem #1 -- assuming you or anyone else has an actual grasp of objective reality. Problem #2 -- failing to realize that an internal locus of control (even irrationally of things you logically have no control over) can improve performance in the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 09:36 AM |
| – | Why is the question, "What do you bring to the table?" so offensive to some?Because it implies the person asking (1) cannot see what you bring to the table (2) Is in a position to evaluate you and (3) believes their value is obvious, because they failed to lead the question with what they offered. In short, it's a question that deserves to be brushed off and laughed at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 07:31 AM |
| 2 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.Only if you look at socializing with women as a means to an end! All socializing is a means to an end. The main end being fucking survival because human beings are the social animal par excellence. And getting your human needs met sorry to say, is part of that survival and the main purpose of socializing. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant, daft, or both. speak on the importance of social proof often the men asking for advice have no social circle that includes women they have to start some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 06:45 PM |
| 2 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.Exactly. The main issue is all the meddling that takes place; there are a billion more obstacles between you and them interacting at a level where you can differentially diagnose politeness from mutual romantic interest. I don’t think there’s anything inherently embarrassing about putting feelers out there, you’re not going to be everyone’s cup of tea and that’s fine but realistically speaking it is a bit awkward. It's not that it's embarrassing, it's that these days a man putting "feelers" out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/23 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.They don't realize the reason we want to move a bit faster is to polarize and figure out if pursuing is even worth our time. Make that ho say no is a crude but effective maxim of the game. there is certainly a delicate "build" and social dance you have to play. I don't play it. I play another game. It's called red light green light. Chicks dig it. Except the ones who don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 10:46 PM |
| 1 | What is the most overrated common dating advice?LOL You need both tbh. (1) Physical Attraction (2) Sexual Compatibility (3) "romantic chemistry" (idk what the fuck it's even supposed to mean and my man brain just refers to it as 'interaction variance,' i.e. whatever the shit women decide this means) (4) common values (5) common interests. In that order. Overrated dating advice: Be alfalfa male Be aloof Don't be needy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 10:44 PM |
| 3 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.It is contradictory. Newsflash, all the innocuous conversation and platonic group dynamics will have to give way at some point to the dude MAKING A MOVE. Unless he has a 100% close rate, his ass is grass. Spoiler: 5% is a good close rate. 10% is a hot streak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 09:28 PM |
| 3 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.You're not arguing against me. I already said romantic fraternization spaces have dwindled to very few, namely the ones I've mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 09:26 PM |
| 4 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.Happens every day buddy boyo, the SECOND the guy reveals his feelings. Newsflash, all those situations don't end with reciprocated feelings. Most end with rejection. If there's rejection, there's a high chance the dude will be ostracized and kicked out. You guys don't know what you're talking about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | AWALT isn't real, but it's still a useful idea for datingNo the idea is that looks = universal currency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.this has at times meant meeting a girl through said friends https://media.tenor.com/rdmU3NM3avcAAAAM/charlie-murphy-laugh.gif Extreme outliers are simply not admissible, here. you don’t even have to leave your house to do these things ergo the people you’re playing games with either also all never leave the house or live in a different city/country entirely - With a wider net to cast (worldwide) people are more likely to meet partners through these same activities. I know a rather unfortunate (b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:16 PM |
| 14 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.No, relationships, too. You have to go to places where fraternization of that type is allowed. In the modern climate, there are increasingly fewer places that will tolerate it. A lot of meetup groups, for example, explicitly forbid and enforce rules against men hitting on women/having romantic intentions/etc. I've seen people get kicked out of them just for asking someone out on a date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Would you give up video games for sex?I don't play video games. Haven't since I was in my early 20's (I'm 37). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Both sexes are very bad at assessing their own level of attractivenessI know that's what you said, yet here we see men at the 80th percentile roughly matching with women in the 20th percentile. Does that make sense to you? Men probably also struggle more with dating due to reasons poor hygiene and grooming habits. LOL based on what, exactly? https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Hygiene-and-Cleanliness While women are more hygienic overall, the spread is fairly close on each category, such that no, legions of men don't "struggle more with dating" because of hygie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:07 PM |
| 2 | AWALT isn't real, but it's still a useful idea for datingTo easily prove that this idea isn't true, This isn't physics, so no, single counter-examples aren't going to cut it. Exceptions don't disprove general rules. The AWALT here is useful because a guy doesn't know her particular tastes and he doesn't know how aware is she about her options, so he needs to adjust his strategy in the way that will work for his desired subcategory of women. Women do have particular tastes...however, there are several features that operate as universal currency. I'm no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:04 PM |
| 30 | Both men and women would be happier if they quit using dating apps.Bottom line is meet people in real life. Real life has cons --- you need to be part of a social circle where (a) it's acceptable to fraternize with women in a romantically intentioned way (dwindling amount of those spaces) (b) new women are added with regularity and (c) you have high (enough) social status in; then, you also need to (a) realize that because your reputation is at stake with every new interaction, you must proceed with caution, which means that (b) the courtship will move at a muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 01:58 PM |
| 8 | Men would be alot less frustrated in the dating effort if they were given brutally honest and often politically incorrect truths about what most women expect from a man.Buddy boyo, there are exceptions to every rule. Trust me, if you can afford to buy her expensive flowers, take her to expensive restaurants, etc. you'll be in the running. Money is power in this world. No getting around it. If you couple those displays of power with the fact that you care for her aka willing to invest resources into her, you'll get far. If you took the group of men who were married versus the group who weren't, you would find that the married men on average were more attractive,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 01:51 PM |
| 3 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingTRP is definitely an idealogy that includes a fairly coherent worldview (to the extent worldviews can be coherent) regarding gynocentrism, misandary, dual mating strategy of females, female hypergamy, and the effects of the sexual revolution...with the glancing strain of alt-right/trad-con views on all of that. As far as being a "set of tools," that's fine. The tools are all rusty and won't work in real life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 08:21 AM |
| 6 | Both sexes are very bad at assessing their own level of attractivenessexcept, buddy boyo... https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:720/format:webp/1*iC0UjKDxFViE3XZuk6MMUw.jpeg DUC how men who are above average will struggle with even women who are very below average? Who is evaluating their attractiveness incorrectly? And this was circa 2016...it's probably gotten worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 02:34 AM |
| 4 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingBuddy boyo, you're only showing yourself that women don't respect or respond to logic in matters of emotion. Which should be obvious because NO ONE does | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 12:58 AM |
| 3 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingLOL BRO You are showing them they're wrong using a vehicle they don't even use in their thought process to begin with? That makes no sense. STOP ARGUING WITH WOMEN. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingYou're the one here replying logically to some illogical shit women say when you already know the truth of it. Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:54 PM |
| 2 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingAbusive men often start out very nice and often wait a long time before having sex with a woman, often building deep emotional connections. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:48 PM |
| 6 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingWhereas a normal cool guy will conclude you just aren't that attracted and peace out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's Doing"knows nothing about her, so he must want sex, because all he knows is what she looks like." = I'm not attracted to him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:47 PM |
| 5 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingIf you are finding that woman are happily having casual sex with you, it’s probably because they find you physically attractive Thank you. All TRP does is complicate what is very very fucking simple. And incorrectly at that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:46 PM |
| 3 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingBut women are turned off by a guy who does these things "to get sex" LOL No they aren't. Get it in your head --- outside of shitting your pants --- your behavior is of little consequence in the early stages of dating. There is only one exception: your ability to escalate. If you can't escalate, you can't get laid. If you can escalate, you will get laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:45 PM |
| 9 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingBuddy boyo, I straight up tell women that I'm going to have to regain my 8-pack soon to keep them happy. No one bats an eyelash or suddenly thinks "OMG A MISOGYNIST" I happily let on that I'm into sex, after sex, and that sex is important to me. You want to know why? Because even when I don't, the women still sense that I am anyway. Once you're at a certain level, I can't explain it, they just get that vibe from you. However, I'm talking the vibe of being promiscuous, a "player" or whatever. I'm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:43 PM |
| 10 | From 2007-2017, the percent of young women that have casual sex declined from 31% to 22%. For young men, it declined from 38% to 24%It's not casual sex with a different partner. It's just casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:37 PM |
| – | Let's talk about the recent TwoX post and the concept of "emotional labor"Women who complain about emotional labor usually strike me as women who are completely unaware of how much emotional labor the average woman requires. She almost always wants to tell me about mundane bullshit from her day. Stuff that I never burden other people with. "I went here, then I tried to do x, but for y, it was hard, etc. etc." Whereas I would say "I did x today." and even then only if she asked. She almost always wants me to pay some threshold amount of attention to her either througho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:36 PM |
| 3 | Nice guys aren’t really that niceThe term "nice guy" has been bastardized, like the term "creep," to just apply to any category of male behavior that women don't like but that isn't enough, on its own, to be offensive. It's insane how people fall for these stupid rebrands. If you're too "nice" it = she's not attracted to you and you're giving her positive attention. That's it. That's all. Being more "alfalfa" isn't going to suddenly make her attracted to you. Just move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 11:31 PM |
| 4 | CMV : For a woman to want to commit most of her mortal life to a man and grant him exclusive access, he SHOULD be pretty impressive, not just a guy who existsBut women have inherently got more value than men and everyone knows this, Based on what, that men will fuck them? By that logic gay men have more value than straight men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 10:15 PM |
| 0 | What are some things men & women commonly say while dating that actually mean something else?I say "Casually looking for something serious" or some paraphrase of that, and I mean that "I'm open to anything depending on how this goes starting with sex." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Painful Truth: most people (both men and women) think they're better than the average - and this leads to disappointment in datingThe vast majority of these people will fall into the 25-75th percentiles for these traits - making them objectively average. Buddy boyo...look at this graph https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1*iC0UjKDxFViE3XZuk6MMUw.jpeg Granted you can argue this represents raw sexual attraction for a casual encounter, but no, what you see here is that men who are objectively above average will struggle to even attract women who are below average. Here's just a few examples of reality: Pret… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 10:10 PM |
| 0 | Has a woman ever exposed you to your flaws?Like you are talking to a woman and everything seems really great and then suddenly they leave and they list out all of your flaws in a way that you wouldn't have noticed. Buddy boyo, flaws according to who? Her? Because her judgment --- especially if I barely know her or if we just fucked once or a few times --- is meaningless. And the fact that she thinks she's qualified to judge a person's intangibles after such a brief interaction means she's a moron. Like they were psychoanalysing you all a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 10:07 PM |
| 22 | Women Cannot Detect a Red Pilled Man If He Knows What He's DoingBecause chicks like good looking, in shape guys, so I move weight up and down, in order to be in shape, so that chicks will like it, and give me sexual access to their bodies." LOL translation: "my life revolves around doing what women want" These tactics of vague answers or framing things as something "normal" with no sinister intentions in regards to "sexual access" can be used for all manner of Red Pill goals: money, status, etc. It just requires a little forethought. News at 11, machiavellia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 10:01 PM |
| 1 | Question for red pillers: what if the woman is much smarter?They care about them later on but no not really in the beginning | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/23 04:08 AM |
| 1 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.Never happened. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 10:12 PM |
| 6 | It appears that women don't want menNews at 11 men will fuck anybody and women have standards --- regardless of how ridiculous they are --- and have the power to enforce them. Women by contrast seem mildly repulsed my men Women do have a higher sexual disgust response than men that actually is coincident with attraction (really interesting). This is a great graph showing it: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Charmaine-Borg-2/publication/317273311/figure/fig2/AS:963450385743914@1606715880303/Mean-disgust-ratings-per-behavior-and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:46 PM |
| 2 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.but it is not women’s primary criteria for mate selection True, but only trivially. The other things women "look for" are entirely out of your control, such as the specific nature of how you and her interact, her mood, etc. Basically, her feelings and unique responses to her environment. That + Looks = everything. There's a mountain of peer-reviewed research supporting that point, beyond my own experience. they absolutely are drawn to asshole behavior When they find the guy attractive they'll to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:33 PM |
| 4 | Question for red pillers: what if the woman is much smarter?Smart and rational are two very very different qualities. I come across high IQ women sometimes, and if anything, they're more apt to engage in irrational weird bullshit, more apt to have a therapist (i.e. mental health issues), etc. Shit, just a few months ago one practically threw herself on my lap, then just as suddenly "lost interest" without rhyme or reason --- maybe found someone else, maybe insane, maybe...etc. The point is that female whimsy applies just as much, if not more, to smart wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:29 PM |
| 3 | A large amount of the issues with the modern dating sphere stem not from high female standards, but low reciprocity and the selfishness that has imprinted itself on female dating culture.I’m very sure that most men are more than fine with the idea of having to radically improve or change themselves for the better to meet the demands of women. LOL I doubt they are, because I sure as hell ain't. Not only are relationships harder to get for them, but now that difficulty is being applied in order to get a reward (relationships with women) that has drastically lowered in quality I'd say the majority of relationships are a net negative, from at least the guy's perspective --- unless y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:22 PM |
| – | How common is it for women to get turned off if she finds out the guy she’s talking to isn’t talking to other women?Women who aren't that interested in the guy to begin with... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 06:01 AM |
| – | Do you think woman put on a “customer service” face?Yes. 1000%. Idk, women are judged for everything and are weaker than men. It's not difficult to see why they have a customer service face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 05:59 AM |
| 14 | I think the biggest problem in dating is that women are simply not honest about what they are attracted to, and despite the fact that men have learned this they are simply told: “so you’re going to tell an actual woman what she wants?” When men say never take dating advice from women.This phenomenon has absolutely ever to do with physical appearance and everything to do with behavior. Then your viewpoint is wrong. I was with you up until you said this. Hear it learn it live it: women like handsome men. There's nothing more complicated than that. The reason they tolerate bad behavior from men is not because they like bad behavior. It's because whoever is treating them that way has redeeming qualities (handsome, tall, rich, etc.) and has options at the level of the woman. If a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Exactly, status is almost entirely subjectively defined. There's a subjective component but it's not completely subjective. Women broadly agree on who is attractive i.e. meets that cut-off for casual sex. They disagree (more than men at least) on who is very attractive. Similarly, women tend to judge status relative to how you behave in person around other men. There are also objective metrics that women associate with status, like doctor, lawyer, wealth, etc. And therefore BJJ skill doesn’t rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:37 AM |
| 0 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?We are not at the whims of evolutional programming Buddy boyo, we're all at the mercy of primal forces. So yes, a person can learn to generate some happiness from within --- with sustained and arduous effort and the aid of a therapist. But generally, as a matter of baseline, it just doesn't work that way. If you make your one goal in life to satisfy your evolutionary function you won’t wind up happy. I didn't disagree with you. I said that ignoring other areas of your life to generate happiness … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?It's implied that if the choice were between one or the other... ...I've slept with several women who've called me one of the 'fuckboy' names... ...have yet to sleep with any one of them that insulted my ability to get laid --- but that really doesn't happen very often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleJust untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:24 AM |
| 5 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Then any insult slandering my ability to get laid: incel, loser, virgin, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:31 AM |
| 2 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?If you depend your happiness on whether or not random women want to have sex with you, your weak. Your happiness comes from many different areas of life. I agree that someone focusing solely on that area of their life is unbalanced or trying to make up for a deficit of happiness in other areas --- which would be the weakness. I don't agree that tying a significant part of your happiness to your ability to attract members of the opposite sex --- your main evolutionary function -- is a bad thing. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:29 AM |
| 3 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Everyone defines it themselves. This is somewhat true. But in the beginning, because looks are the main draw + variance (things like chemistry, her mood, her place in life, etc.), it's most likely that you have to be higher than her in some kind of status, be it looks or otherwise (and that otherwise is just for the sake of discussion). No one has a happy marriage? Not no one. I'd say the majority of marriages are somewhat dysfunctional, just like the majority of relationships, and just like the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 01:28 AM |
| 2 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Can you really not even conceive of happily married couples being the exception rather than the rule? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 12:54 AM |
| 8 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Word, son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:31 PM |
| 5 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?I'd rather be called a fuckboy or man-whore and so would any other guy... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:30 PM |
| 7 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Being rejected based off of looks, is not a uniquely male experience. Yeah that's not the same. I'd say outside of women with major deformities, they can find suitable partners. The same isn't true for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:29 PM |
| 4 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?However, this is an unbelievably fragile sense of self worth. And it’s horribly mentally unhealthy. Part of your self worth comes from external factors, being able to attract women is one of those external factors. None of that "generate happiness from within" silliness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Yeah, Women get sex easier. So what?Getting laid a lot doesn’t mean your a “high value man” Disagree. You have to be crushing it in some area relative to the girl. Just because it’s hard for you to hook up with multiple women each night, doesn’t mean your better for it Literally any other skill in life is viewed the opposite, i.e. you do it to a level of proficiency, you are said to be higher value (in that area at least). If I look at a 40y/o man who has been in a committed marriage for 10-20 years, vs a 40y/o man who has no SO, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIt can be without a system for it in place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:08 PM |
| 0 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWow, a few? I guess you really must know all there is to know. No the difficult thing in casual relationships is to not hurt the other emotionally. it could never happen to me, he says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestylethere needs to be hope that a relationship you want is attainable From which perspective, the male or the female? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI have been so confused about what happened, was it real or was it bullshit and how she could just cut me off. Thanks for opening up and telling this story. Most of the comment section is full of posturing and men refusing to admit that situations like the one you described sting. About 50% of first dates end in sex. Some go on to be relationships, some become booty calls, some go no where. Good job. You're killing it. You're better than you think. I think now she wants full no contact and I’m h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestylebecause you're letting some greedy bitch use you without respecting you, that's self degrading behavior. If you're getting casual sex consistently, you would be a "Chad" If you're going to engage in casual sex women have to submit to you. Ok, and...? I bet you 90% of guys who aren't already in to the casual sex lifestyle based on looks starting at puberty will never get there tbh We have a commenter down below who was a virgin til he was 27 and racked up huge numbers in 6 years. He's an outlier … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:02 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleDude. When that happens, then the guy cares about a LTR, and not casual sex. Again, a switch. Not a problem It is a problem when that same person does (1)-(4) If that's what someone desires, then yeah they'll stick it out. The whole OP is that average men think they desire it, but the vicissitudes of the casual sex lifestyle would outweigh that desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestylehe's not going to be worried about relationships. Until he finds someone he likes. You act like that can't happen in the world of casual sex. If he suddenly decides he cares to find a relationship and doesn't want to fuck around, he doesn't have to return to fucking around. Except people often meet their partners while fucking around not until the money is spent) That's precisely my point --- they tend to blow through the money and squander their fortune. Whether it's pure dating, or sex scenari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 03:43 AM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleBecause in literally other life endeavor where fortunes change overnight for average people, they shit the bed. Whether it's winning the lottery or being promoted to their incompetence. However, they'd be able to adjust after some fucks have been provided. If you've been conditioned a certain way for your sex life and have to retrain yourself, you're more likely to quit. As people are want to do when things get tough. Not only that, but not everyone has thick skin --- you're forgetting that fact… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 02:59 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI was a virgin until 27 Outlier already... Which they definitely can Not without major changes that give them positive reference experiences. all of us high N-count men all started as inexperienced. I started when I was 15 and the experiences were intermittent until I got shredded over a decade later. Societal programming essentially gaslights men about the nature of sexual politics. So it took a long time before I was able to piece together how things really are. But honestly dude, you're an ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 02:43 AM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleNot to the extent it can get bruised in the casual sex lifestyle (differentiating from swinger lifestyle). Average men pine over women they don't even know, get butthurt by inane things, and posture without action to avoid failure. No, they couldn't handle it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 02:37 AM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou have no experience with it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/23 12:02 AM |
| – | For any man with abundance/options, there is no benefit to choosing a promiscuous womanSo the determining factor of promiscuous women getting commitment is just the reliance on that man not having options or being significantly more attractive than his other options. Yeah it couldn't be that the libido of the latter would match his better. It couldn't be that woman A wants to wait 3 months before sex. So the determining factor of promiscuous women getting commitment is just the reliance on that man not having options or being significantly more attractive than his other options. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYeah bro, casual sex hasn't been linked to a bunch of negative outcomes for male mental health and undoing a lifetime worth of opposite experience is easy! Sick posture. 'mirin | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIn your example, he can, so he wouldn’t care. In my example, a man who has been average all his life suddenly gets to have casual sex. That's a lifetime of cultural and social conditioning. So yes he most definitely would care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:19 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleThat has almost nothing to do with OP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:17 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWhen things start with a FB, they don't have any romantic interest in you at all. And this keeps that interest there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyledon't want casual especially with a player type of guy. If they're sufficiently attracted to you they'll do it...once. You can't really complain about women "peacing out" or "finding someone better" if you're providing mid sex. You're getting confused here. I'm saying that this is a strategy you can use to just have a ONS and have to never see them again. Not that I recommend doing it when you want to see them again. Treating someone like shit when they're feeling clingy makes them cling harder … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 10:45 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou make the mistake of thinking we care when she leaves. The average guy would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleHaving another man besides her partner's baby. Annnd you're done. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 10:05 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIdk. drop out of the casual sex game and get therapy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleThere are some behaviors mostly unique to women that are shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou need to read the girl, but generally there's two ways to have a ONS pop off without you needing to see her again and it happening with 0 drama. Basically player or clingy. If she seems relatively independent and cool, go the clingy route. Just imply a future with her a lot. Role play as a couple. That sort of shit. If she seems relatively conservative/feminine, go the player route. Be a douchebag, intimate or hint that you have a lot of options, etc. Optional: be seflish in bed in both cases… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:48 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou don't think very highly of other men. That's like saying because I think most men couldn't climb mount everest or run a 4 minute mile or do 25 pushups "I don't think very highly of other men." I'm fine with it because I'm experienced and know how to handle the situations. But going into it I already had a thick skin. The majority of people don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleHere, read it again: Feigning high interest in someone beyond a sexual level then women saying they are looking for casual sex. Most women, thanks to cultural conditioning, won't straight up do that. You're an outlier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleHave you tried being better at it? Have you tried truly reading the post instead of twist it into something it's not? Only teenagers and dumb people have casual sex, see the results of casual sex, are hurt by them... and then keep having casual sex. Here, because you can't read: Depending on variance this could 10-30% of your experiences. I've gone on bad beats where like half my interactions ended that way. DUC that 10-30% != majority of "results of casual sex?" which is what makes your stateme… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:44 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleBecause that wouldn't tend to work. Feigning high interest in someone beyond a sexual level wouldn't tend to work? Hohkay, sure buddy. But let's put aside the lying which definitely does happen a good amount. It really doesn't matter, point blank --- the abrupt nature of the game does damage most guys couldn't handle. Like, it's great you were so up front about casual sex and it was this mutually agreed upon thing. Most situations aren't like that. I'm sorry you aren't aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI understand why being "ghosted" or ignored could be painful. What I don't understand is why people having casual sex would expect people to remain accessible to them. Great, you understand. Now you need to make the next leap: an expectation of someone being accessible is not required for someone to feel pain. DUCY? And I don't understand why, if you don't like the results of casual sex, you would keep doing it. I don't understand why you keep reading my post as something other than what it is. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:39 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWhen women are shitty I hate their behavior = don't like women's behaviors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWhy would you do it if it was full of lies and deception? Read the OP --- I said like 20-30% of the time there's some kind of bullshit. The majority of the time it's cool. When I was having casual sex it was all very up front. Why wouldn't it be? Why do men lie to have casual sex with women? You really don't think women are capable of doing the same to men and in fact do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYes, there are a lot of teenagers and dumb people. Yes, only teenagers and "dumb people" get stung by rejection or sudden abandonment. Bravo. That doesn't mean that most people figure out what casual sex is and choose to do it or not based on that. You're ignoring how casual sex happens in the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestylemean men who can get casual sex are apparently fairly lucky according to this board. Why do you think the guys on here will care about the mental health problems that come with the lifestyle? LOL Because at some point they'll have to care. If they think it's worth it and keep doing it, the only person they have to blame for their mental health is themselves. You weighed your options (casual sex vs mental health) and made a choice (casual sex). This is off topic. The point is that most guys would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleHopefully if you had enough causal sex, you would get good at it. Not how sex works. A person isn't good at sex. Two people have good sex. It's an interaction. And I don't care who you are, no one has 100% "good days." Yeah that’s why it’s casual sex If you're going to pretend that women don't get hurt when they get ghosted, despite the entire internet filled with them saying just that, then of course you wouldn't understand why the same thing would still sting for a man. Even if you did agree t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:32 PM |
| 5 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleMost men can't consistently get casual sex, so it's hard to say whether their lack of desire is due to inability or a true lack of interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleThe fuck did I just read. So now, if you dislike shitty behavior, you hate women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:26 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIf a guy can consistently get casual sex + decent libido Both of those together eliminates the majority of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI am on topic --- you apparently have a problem admitting that women can and do lead men on all the time. You, like another commenter, seem to think casual sex only happens where two people meet, shake hands, and agree it's "just casual sex." Real life isn't like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:22 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYeah bro, women text men on dating apps to come over and late at night before even meeting them, right? Women who meet men in bars "text men late at night" or "tell them to come over" every single time, despite not even knowing the man or having any time to do any of that. Women always tell the man every single time. Mental gymnastics to the max with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIf dude is there just for the sex, and isn't catching feelings, You don't have to catch feelings for your ego to get bruised. then it's not an issue No one has casual sex and 100% never "catches feelings" or decides they might like someone. Dude is there for sex, and that's it. As long as that's the focus, there's no problem. Even if you're just there for sex --- being deceived and lied to confuses people. I'm unsure why no one gets that lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleLol@the rationalizations for deception. Now we have to pretend women don't do it at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWhat you can’t read an implication? Is it now a man's job to be a telepath? Like for whatever reason, people can't even admit women lie the same as men do. I'm sorry your gender is fallible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:17 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleOnly text you to come over Only text you late at night, Flat out tell you, Talk about other men they are actually trying to date Nope, definitely not all the time. Not when they're looking for a one-time hookup either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleThank you. That's the whole point. Women deceive and lie and keep information hidden just like men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleOP who thinks casual sex is painful because it's casual and doesn't seem to understand that is the whole point. It can be painful, and if you don't understand why being ghosted or ignored or whatever could be painful to a human being then you're being deliberately obtuse. You keep assuming people meet, shake hands, and decide they will have casual sex, when that's not how it works the majority of the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:13 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleAnd a lot of casual sex is filled with lying and deception. That you don't understand that is very strange. It's like someone saying 'yeah this lifestyle is for me, but it's not all roses' and you're twisting it to 'WELL DON'T DO IT IF YOU HATE LOL!' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:12 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI promise you that the things you wish were true about me are untrue. Women lie all the time, who are you kidding? Are you serious with that shit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:11 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleA cursory google search proves your asinine statement incorrect. The web is filled with people wondering why they were ghosted after a hookup. Stop being naive. Most people know that people who want to have sex with them act interested in them. Because they are. No, as in interested in more than just sex. As in lying. Are you really this daft? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:10 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleBruh you're posturing. What if after spending a little bit with them you decide you kinda like them? What if they lied to you and feigned a lot of 'more than sex' interest, wouldn't it be confusing? But yeah sure, if you don't care for any of the women you sleep with I guess you're right. Seems kinda boring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:07 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIdk. If you go out on dates, you're still an unknown regarding sex. Once you've had sex, you've been naked and vulnerable, in a sense, with someone. So if they still reject you, I think that feeling would be worse for a normal guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:06 PM |
| 5 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleTypically the terms of the relationship are better for the man when a woman is willing to have sex with him sans commitment versus men who are made to wait. Typically = 60-80% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:05 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleIt really isn't much work at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:04 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestylemost men don’t understand why women are how they are. Honestly at this point I just think it's a permissive non-accountability culture more than anything else. But I don't think knowing why is that important. Just knowing how they are is what counts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:02 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleOnce you get used to casual dating after a few tries and you find out you like it you'll probably be ok. It doesn't work like that. If a guy can consistently get casual sex + decent libido, he's gonna go for casual sex, even if it takes a toll on his mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleThat's not really the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 09:00 PM |
| 0 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleAhoy there fellow triple-digit club member. Let me rejoind your reply. At outset, you must remember we are talking about what a man who has not experienced frequent casual sex or much romantic success would do and if he could handle the environment. It's not about whether you care or how you'd handle a situation. (1) -(4) Yeah you're just talking like someone with experience. In this whole post you're assuming a guy in the "casual sex lifestyle" is focused on ONE woman and if that crumbles, his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 08:59 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou get good at being able to angle for just a ONS so you don't have crazy chicks blowing up your phone. You get good at managing FBs so they don't blow up your phone. And a lot of what you have to do is the direct opposite of the stuff TRP says to do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWomen can peace out if they think you have too many options as well. Just a lot of whimsy involved which is precisely why you extract value (sex) early and often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:35 PM |
| 6 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleTypically if you get into a relationship with a woman via casual sex the relationship terms are far more favorable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleJust give it up dude she's hell bent on warping the conversation for her purposes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:30 PM |
| 0 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleI submit that no most men could not handle it. It can be a Rollercoaster at times. Just because you have several women in rotation or options doesn't make you somehow immune to the transient nature of the game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:29 PM |
| -3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYes, they would give many fucks. It'd likely fuck them up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:27 PM |
| 3 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleLol so when women lie and deceive men that's on the men who should have just known better. But when men lie and deceive women that's also on the man as well. Got it. You're deliberately missing the point of the post to soapbox | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleYou're missing the point. It's not about whether they lie or not. It'a about the type of atmosphere you're walking into. Most guys aren't aware of it. My post isn't complaining about casual sex... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 06:25 PM |
| 2 | Most guys who wish they could get into the casual sex lifestyle, couldn't handle that lifestyleWomen will straight up lie about wanting a relationship or actually being interested in you. They do it just like guys do it. It's rarely ever as clear cut as two people agreeing to a ONS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.Yeah you're just talking about whether the woman is sexually available or not. If there's another guy in her life she likes then yeah she'll probably say no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 03:10 PM |
| 1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.Fine 5-15 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 04:16 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men overthink everything when it comes to getting womenNo one's overthinking anything. Looking good enough is a complicated process that tends to require undoing a lot of gaslighting social programming. Ultimately women are looking to trade up and because not every man can be king of the hill, your advice won't work for most men. Your advice is just a riff on the "just take a shower bro" line. Buddy boyo, I've been unemployed, depressed and unhygienic, and still gotten laid like crazy. Because I looked good. Not everyone can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 04:10 AM |
| 1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.If she's really attracted to you at first glance a lot of things can happen... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 04:07 AM |
| 1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.How do you know? I've gotten many numbers after 5-10 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 03:50 AM |
| 2 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.Exceptions don't make the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/23 02:41 AM |
| 5 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.Sexualized, rushed cold approaches have far less chance of success than say, asking, and genuinely BEING curious about her book No they don't. What matters is whether she finds you attractive. You can talk all the live long day about books and magazines and whatever else --- but if she isn't attracted to you, it doesn't matter. If she is, she'll know within seconds. There's no need to waste time doing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:16 PM |
| 7 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.It is a waste of time if you want to fuck them and it isn't reciprocated. Hard facts of life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:15 PM |
| 2 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.LOL No you aren't. You're wasting their time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:14 PM |
| 6 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too."Will Smith don't have to curse to sell records... ...well I do, so F$ck him and F$ck you." Or in other words, hey that's great for you who has an entirely different experience to the male experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:13 PM |
| 2 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.(2) Point blank buddy boyo, a woman likes receiving compliments from members of the opposite sex she finds attractive. Think about it in reverse, don't you like when women compliment you that you find attractive? (3) When have I ever whined about it? I point out the differential in standards and the different experiences women and men have while dating when someone is gaslighting. And...oh no, I guess I'll just be fucking. How terrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:12 PM |
| -1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.LOL rapport is built through her thinking you're handsome. You can't meaningfully build 'rapport' through words the first time you meet someone, wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.We both know they're full of shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 07:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: "Approaching women" is dumb and a waste of time.Spam approaching in public is a waste of time. Approaching someone who's checking you out, or approaching more broadly at night in a bar or lounge, isn't. simply approaching women you've never met before and know nothing about and asking them out is a colossal waste of time. I've literally had two serious relationships arise from "cold approaching." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:35 PM |
| 11 | No one ever seems to want to acknowledge that women consistently go for abusive, bad natured men. If you bring this up all they do is shame you to silence the discussion, and this is probably the most prominent example of gaslighting in dating/gender dynamics.No women go for handsome men. Handsome men (relative to them) have options (at their level) which is why they can get away with treating them like shit. these guys look like they just got out of prison Yeah, typically very masculine. Some women are really into that look. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 6 | How to cold approach a woman and how not too.It all depends on how you "cold approach." Personally, in my opinion it's better to warm approach someone who's checking you out. And yes, if women don't check you out when you go out in public ---- fix that, first. (2) is wrong. You don't know her as a person and faking that you really found her shirt, necklace, shoes, book she's holding, or whatever the shit else interesting is wack. You're a man she's a woman, letting her know you find her attractive isn't a bad thing. In fact, her taking the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/23 05:31 PM |
| 3 | There is nothing wrong with todays dating worldLol there literally is a worldwide phenomenon of all the things you mentioned, backed by readily available social data. Less people having sex, more men than women single, radical misogynistic ideologies becoming more mainstream, acts of terrorism, anti-male bias documented in peer reviewed research, among several other "facts." Learn how to use Google before deciding to put down another gender maybe... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 06:03 AM |
| 0 | CMV : To be an attractive man physically is rarer than to be an attractive woman because its how rare the traits are that makes them attractive in a manLol sure buddy boyo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 05:53 AM |
| 4 | The alpha female determines which males will be successfulSo in response to a misused and meaningless term being thrown around you toss around a different one. Neat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:45 AM |
| 3 | Men who work out - what is your opinion on this article? "I was rejected by a girl. It led me to change my body"I used to spend 5 days a week at the gym. I was diced out of my mind. Truly a golden age. Then covid hit and I haven't yet been back. But if the quality of my matches dips enough...and it's headed south...I'll be back soon enough lol The motivation is neither positive or negative. Just pragmatic. If you want x result you (I) have to do y | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/23 12:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV : To be an attractive man physically is rarer than to be an attractive woman because its how rare the traits are that makes them attractive in a manYeah, cause most people are wearing condoms and on birth control. Good one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 11:32 PM |
| -1 | CMV : To be an attractive man physically is rarer than to be an attractive woman because its how rare the traits are that makes them attractive in a manExcept they've done studies finding that all those masculine traits have pretty much no correlation with reproductive success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 05:58 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentThe SNP heritability for AUDIT-T (12%), AUDIT-C (11%), AUDIT-P (9%), and AUD (9%) https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.2018.18121364 Keep embarrassing yourself. And no, 10% heritability != 10% "genetics," dummkopf. It means that the association itself is that weak. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 12:49 AM |
| 1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argument"SNP heritability’ derived from genome-wide association studies indicates that only ∼10% of variation in intelligence is attributable to genetics." https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0039368122000632 What else did I make up, the standards for actual science too? Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/23 12:27 AM |
| 1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentLMFAO Essentially asks "but how would you do science?" So unlike literally ANY OTHER BRANCH OF SCIENCE we are supposed to accept SNPS at less than 10% of any ASSOCIATION with heritability, the post hoc "well perhaps its many genes of small effect" in the absence of evidence? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 11:44 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentYou apparently didn't understand your own articles. No causal mechanism, no causal effect demonstrated....only correlations. Read it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 09:56 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentYet another dumpkopf who doesn't understand science. https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/symptoms-and-signs/hereditary-or-genetic Basic 101 info right there, first paragraph: the causes are unknown. CORRELATION != causation. Just because you don't know how to logic, don't make it my problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 08:56 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentThis has to be a troll... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 02:02 PM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentExcept it isn't more nuanced than that. Go find some genes that have been shown to have a causal link to a behavior and the biological mechanisms behind that causal link have been explained...you know, REAL science. Spoiler: you won't find any because there are none thus far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 11:06 AM |
| -1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentOk then, if you want to say things I didn't say, I want you kindly be quiet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 11:04 AM |
| 1 | What's the difference between "toxic masculinity" and "toxic femininity"? Or it's just that there are toxic people?Gendered toxicity in my opinion only meaningfully comes from abuse. And typically, abuse comes from an individual misusing their power in a given situation. So... Toxic masculinity: utilizing male privilege to negatively affect someone else, i.e. knowing that your colleagues will listen to you vs. a woman and stealing an idea and taking the credit. Toxic femininity: utilizing female privilege to do the same, i.e. sleeping with a bunch of guys/people then shaming a man who "can't get laid." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 04:38 AM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentSorry, chief, the burden is on you to show me the gene complexes that have been meaningfully shown to have a causal link with any behavior. And because you apparently can't read, here's the key paragraph from the source I so kindly gave you: Finally, the third and least tractable leg of the MHP regards the challenge of elucidating meaningful causal-mechanical stories that explain how and why genetic differences between individuals causes behavioral differences between individuals – we call this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 04:27 AM |
| 2 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentI gave an example where genetics "contributed" to the issues and behaviors in question without contributing materially to them at all. Spot how. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 04:26 AM |
| 0 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentAt bottom, you have no genes or gene complexes that have been meaningfully shown to have a causal link with any behavior. All the pedantic praddling you seem to want to engage in won't change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 04:06 AM |
| -1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentAgain you keep referring to polygenic and pleiotropic traits as if they are somehow safe from the missing heritability problem: they ain't. You didn't show the opposite. You vaguely referenced the fact that individuals (mice) with a Y chromosome given a set of circumstances are more aggressive than individuals without a Y chromosome. Of course were it so simple, an extra Y chromosome would increase aggression: it doesn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 03:17 AM |
| -2 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentThe missing heritability problem isn't just about single genes, dummpkopf. And the fact that you read that study to bolster a genes cause x argument is part of the problem... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 02:03 AM |
| -2 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentBut according to you, genetics don't meaningfully influence our behavior, humans are somehow the magical exception to 99.99% of all other species. Show the candidate genes that have been shown to cause any behavior. And make sure that finding is replicated. And shown does not mean linked. That's great, you have a nice little story about a beaver. I've got something better: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_heritability_problem Here's a nice little blurb about it: https://www.sciencedirect.co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/23 01:40 AM |
| -2 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentAgreed. Which is why evolution, and genetics can’t be a ‘horrible excuse’. Terrible logic. They both contribute, but if the contribution of one is tangential or irrelevant, then the underlying claim is false. And it's not "evolution and genetics." That's the entire point of my comment --- there's currently zero proof that behavior is meaningfully "genetic." You do understand that genetics can contribute without actually contributing anything, right? A good example would be a society where everyo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 11:26 PM |
| 1 | When do you consider a man or a woman 'succesful' in dating/relationships?A man's success in dating is directly proportional with the quantity and quality of the women who are willing to sleep with him sans a relationship. A man's success in relationships is determined by the length of his longest relationships and the terms of that relationship. Two very different things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think many short men are thought to have Napoleon complex?Generally, people follow social scripts. Shorter men are seen as lower value. Anytime someone plays against type or tries to buck the script, they're often shamed for it. A woman who's aggressive is a bitch. A black guy who is smart is 'uppity' or 'arrogant.' A short guy who stands up for himself has a complex. I say this as really short guy (5'5). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:42 PM |
| 10 | Are men always expected to be the entertainers on dates? Or maybe even in relationships?LOL All these guys who take the heteronormative gender dynamics to the extreme need to repeat the phrase "she's that not into me" over and over again. If a woman is truly attracted to you, things will be easy. You won't feel like you're an entertainer or required to carry the interaction forward. Hear it learn it live it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:40 PM |
| 2 | A much lower percentage of women are interested in Stefan Urquelle than Steve Urkel because Stefan is not being himselfOP offers real world claims and brings fake world evidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:38 PM |
| 1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentIt’s the scientific consensus that both genetics, and environment, are contributing factors. What’s debatable is the extent. Which is a long way of saying absolutely nothing; duh doy both contribute. If your dad’s a lawyer, and mother a teacher; odds are you, and your siblings will have at the very least; inherited some of that intellectual ability. Similarly the risk for heart disease. What you fail to apprehend is that alongside genetics, environments run in families too, which means that dise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentNo you misunderstood what I said. I'm saying that we don't have any good evidence that these behaviors have a meaningful genetic basis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:14 PM |
| -1 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentYou don't think that governs behaviour and preferences? LOL The fact that you believe those circumstances necessarily invoke "genetics" is exactly why so many people are confused. You think men should just "get over it" because it's now How did you get that from anything I said... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 10:13 PM |
| 24 | “its how we evolved” is a horrible excuse and it needs to stop being an argumentThis argument legitimizes terrible science, i.e. the many notions that x or y necessarily is the result of natural or sexual selection, by taking a moral high ground of some kind. Before we sound the alarm against biological determinism, hey, here's a thought, why not simply question the veracity of the initial claims. Anytime someone argues that Men or women are "hard-wired" to [insert culturally instilled behavior here], I roll my eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: How do you define “fat”?omeone gave links to women who would be considered obese based on their BMI Those women look pretty chubby. the average girl is technically fat Yup. That's a 5 in America. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Pretty girls can only be acquired by monkey branchingNot really, I meet pretty young women IRL who are single. This made me think that the only way to get really attractive girls by cold approach is by doing a more indirect approach -> become friend -> then send your resume as soon as she reopen the BF job offer. :) Sure, if you want to waste time on the 90% of prospects that won't work out, go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:36 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Most men are totally okay with waiting to have sex, but they're scared of being friendzoned so they feel pressured to make moves on datesI have a theory that a lot of men, including myself, feel pressured to drive things in a sexual direction while dating or else we'll wake up to a "I think you're a great guy, but I'm just not feeling it" text message. Which is dunderheaded. If a woman is attracted to you, she's attracted to you. Doesn't matter if you make the move now or in 5 years (assuming you don't radically alter your appearance). The reason you make moves fast is to sort out who's actually attracted to you and who isn't, no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, what percentage of men that have a problem finding a woman that likes him romantically are overestimating how much that problem has to do with his natural appearance?Oh please, it's probably near 100%. The rise of OLD and the fall of "meeting through a social circle," means that the initial stages of dating are based around looks because the people who meet are essentially strangers. Most women expect a "spark" on the first date. The spark comes from two things: (1) looks (2) variance. Whereas via a social circle people take time to get to know one another and over time a man can demonstrate positive qualities that make him more attractive to the opposite se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationshipThat's just conjecture by you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 11:27 AM |
| 5 | AI and the future of human relationships—what is your stance (RP, BP, PP), and how do you think this will unfold?Buddy boyo, when the artifical womb appears, alongside realistic AI-powered sex dolls, we're going to see some fundamental shifts in the world. Porn stars and OF girls are going to be driven out of work by AI-generated sex scenes. In the future, a woman will be able to get extra cash by selling her eggs. Prostitution may nearly collapse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/23 01:30 AM |
| 3 | "If you want a movement for men so bad, just start one yourself. There's nothing stopping you."that they aren't obligated to help (true) This is not true. If feminism truly is about dismantling patriarchy, it must recognize that men largely suffer under patriarchy and hegemonic masculinity as well. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 05/05/23 01:19 AM |
| 3 | CMV: traditional marriage vows are too strictYes, as it turns out, marriage is serious. In other news, water is wet. Rather than trying to change the institution to suit your need to be free of any responsibility, how about you just refrain from marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 11:17 PM |
| 5 | Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationshipThe idea is that they typically don't start as romantic interests but instead as friends. There's a study that shows the longer people knew each other before becoming a couple, the correlation between their attractiveness levels disappears after a certain time period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 11:16 PM |
| 2 | What is your opinion on the sub “Mens Lib”?r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates is much much better | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 08:23 PM |
| 1 | Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for womenI get plenty of matches in OLD and I have my 5'5 height listed on my profile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:29 PM |
| 2 | Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for womenThey took one look and the decision was made. Correct, mostly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:28 PM |
| 2 | Looks are NOT close to the most important thing for womenAs the title says, looks / physical appearance are not close to the most important thing that women want, especially in a long term relationship. Completely false. The initial short-term phase of dating is completely dominated by looks. There's random variance around the interaction --- but it's just that, random. Women, are all about how a man MAKES HER FEEL And looks are the key to her feeling anything. If I look around, at the park, shopping mall, restaurants, Sport Games, Beach, etc. so many… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Being a bad boy is very beneficial when it comes to being respected by peers and attracting womenEven bad boys who doesn’t even have looks or height tend to do well with women I have yet to see this. The women tend to follow the looks level of the guy, as in beneath him. Women put up with that behavior because the man has some quality, usually superficial, that she highly values. I wasn’t having it so I’d literally grab her by the throat while looking into her eyes and told her to lose the attitude and she did indeed liked when I’d do this Congrats, you found a damaged person. Woopdeedoo. a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:18 PM |
| 6 | Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationshipYes it does, in the long-term. Research supports it: literally your personality over time can make you more physically attractive to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Causing arousal isn’t the same thing as causing happiness/enjoyment in a relationshipAttraction (over the long-term) and relationship management are two almost orthogonal skillsets. When a TRP guy says being a bad boy is a good idea, they’re not trying to be your husband or boyfriend, they’re probably looking for low-commitment sex. No. They think that acting 'alfalfa' will cause a woman to become attracted to a man in the short-term and perhaps long-term. The notion is mostly false. Red pill is largely concerned with causing arousal and visceral attraction, not a “happy relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 05:14 PM |
| 1 | Defining Love.Well, you had your chance to counter my claims. You must have evaded doing so because you can't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 01:04 AM |
| 1 | will she eventually leave me for someone "better"?Not necessarily. Once you pair bond with a woman the game changes a bit. You're somewhat of a safe bet. That's why women would rather hit up an ex lover than go out and find some hot random to get their rocks off. It all depends on the relationship. If the sexual attraction is high, then nothing much to worry about. If the relationship lacks that component, in my opinion, you're at higher risk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 01:03 AM |
| 6 | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticIt is a turn on but being average wont disqualify you. If you're lacking superstar finances or status, then it's best to have superstar looks. Otherwise, it's a tough road to get your foot in the door during the initial stages of dating. but why do these situations happen ? Not all women are that into casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/23 01:00 AM |
| 2 | Do dating age men have any interest in having a friendship with a woman who is solidly nailed down?Which got me thinking, would a dating age single man even have any interest being friends with a woman his age who is solidly nailed down or married? I mean maybe if she was really hot and there was mutual attraction, i.e. possibility of an affair. But platonic? I don't even have close female platonic friends who are single. Tons of acquaintances, sure, but it doesn't make much sense to me to have them as close friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Just pay attention to herBetter yet, realize that in the short-term it's pretty much looks anyway and stop giving a shit about what either you or her say! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:05 PM |
| 4 | CMV : RP's standards mainly filter out high libido/mutual attraction and lead to transactional relationships/ dead bedroom and is a terrible dating tacticCoupled with using money and status in order to get women is imo a terrible dating tactic. It weeds out any genuine interest. This is myth. The lifestyle that comes from having money and high status is a turn on for women. If i was unable to make her cum i'd definitely worry Sounds like you got one who cums easily, so "making her cum" probably isn't that much of an accomplishment. Maybe weeding out genuine attraction is actually the end goal. Would make sense for someone who believes he cant gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Defining Love.Talk is cheap. By all means, explain yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 06:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men would be content with women at least acknowledging how atrocious dating has become for males, rather than gaslighting them and insisting it was invariably something they were doing wrong or that it was their “personality.”I don't believe dating is horrific. I have a good time. However every man has to put up with or tolerate or work around general female behavior, be it flakiness, caprice, etc. I don't care if women acknowledge the male experience in dating. They're free to choose who they choose and behave however they like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 04:43 PM |
| – | The decreasing value of people in todays society, especially menYou're the one with claim buddy boyo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 04:11 PM |
| – | The decreasing value of people in todays society, especially menJust write it here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 04:06 PM |
| 1 | The decreasing value of people in todays society, especially menNot a big part of it. Even an army is just cheap labor/Cannon fodder. How are men less desirable as workers when they are affected less by pregnancy, child rearing, and menstrual cycles? Not gonna watch the video because the reasoning here is poor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Defining Love.It was in woman's best interest to sell men on the idea of love, for their own protection. Not where romantic love came from. So out the gate you're wrong about history. As technology continued to enable women to gain more options, they did not restrain themselves any more than men typically do to exercise those options. Buddy, women for the most part do restrain themselves when "exercising those options," otherwise most every woman would have a body count in the 1000s. We've already known the p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:52 PM |
| 2 | Which of these scenaris is the "friend zone"?B is the friend zone --- because the guy sticks around. No one is owed sex. No one is owed a relationship. "Friend zone doesn't exist" Ugh. This nonsense again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:48 PM |
| 1 | The decreasing value of people in todays society, especially menEarly societies valued men for protection and physical strength Wrong. Since the dawn of civilization, men were always mainly valued as cheap labor. Thanks to machines and firearms, men have become largely obsolete. Wrong. Workers are still needed --- both men and women. This video goes in depth on growing wealth inequality and gender inequality thorughout history, to the modern era, and in the future. Wealth inequality fails to support the notion that men are unneeded... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:46 PM |
| 10 | Most (straight)mens relationship woes stems from believing that being choosy is being cruel/mean to women OR that you can't afford being choosy in your mate selection.No. Just no. Most straight men's problems in dating result from failing to meet the short-term mating standards of women --- mainly physical attractiveness. ...which results in men having to tolerate some pretty shitty behavior --- flaking, ghosting, having to "audition" for women, etc. So a lot of wasted time and effort, because the vast majority of the opportunities won't work out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:44 PM |
| 2 | CMV: It's possible for a man to get used for sex by a woman.I'm not a red piller but I have more experience with women than the vast vast majority of them... When I asked why she chose him she said I'm physically attractive but they "click better". She likely finds him more attractive or finds him more attainable for a relationship. I am very charismatic on the outside but once I started being myself rather than acting she just lost interest. You haven't known her long enough for pretty much any behavior to matter much. I should be feeling on top of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:39 PM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?You're currently misunderstanding the study. Rated abilities != actual abilities. Rated abilities = larely halo effect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:30 AM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?Abilities are demonstrated via behavior. "Charm" and "humor" are direct manifestations of intelligence. You want more studies? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 03:19 AM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?You’re saying there’s no evidence that a man who is funny, charming, confident and interesting has an impact on whether a woman sees him as being attractive in the short term? Yes I'm saying that subjective personality qualities that tend to be subsumed by the halo effect have marginal, if not zero, impact on whether a woman sees him as being attractive. Here's a study supporting my viewpoint: Our results provided little support for the idea that people are drawn to how competent a person truly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:51 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsThis largely relies on the factors influencing hypergamy to rest with any "genetic benefit" rather than arbitrary benefits conferred mainly by cultural transmission and status within a particular culture. Sadly, women cannot avoid being attracted to top 20% men, even if all men improve, only a few of them will be successful. You're confusing the market for casual sex with the reproductive success market. Bad news, friend --- good looks are at best very weakly correlated with reproductive success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:48 AM |
| 3 | Pleasing a man sexually as a woman is so much easier than pleasing a woman sexually as a manThis is false and comes from equating a man's orgasm with 'good sex.' Honestly, so many problems arise from treating sex as some performance. A person in isolation is not good at sex. Two (or more!) people have good sex. It's an interaction. Looking good and thinking your partner looks really good is probably one of the biggest and best predictors (but the correlation is IMPERFECT) of good sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.Here's a good PDF: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225180045_How_Willing_Are_You_to_Accept_Sexual_Requests_from_Slightly_Unattractive_to_Exceptionally_Attractive_Imagined_Requestors Notice that for women the only real surge in agreement to all three requests comes from a man being exceptionally attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:34 AM |
| – | Any men or women felt initial revulsion or was appalled at RP that later accepted and was glad to know?It’s data It isn't. It’s data regarding behaviors and tendencies and our psychological hardwiring It's third-string worldview gumbo comprised of traditional gender roles, evolutionary psych, revenge fantasies, and the observation of prevalent gynocentrism in society. They’re well documented and when you read about them, you can’t unsee them But they aren't. For example, the dual mating strategy that underpins 'alfalfa fux' baiter bucks' has recently come under fire and is on the verge of being c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:20 AM |
| 7 | How important is preselection when it comes to a woman choosing a partner?This reasoning is very akin to the reasoning underpinning 'behave like an alfalfa male to get women attracted.' It confuses cause and effect. Typically, men who are high in looks, money, status, whatever, are going to have a lot of admirers/women interested in them. That's how it works. That's why a man who is partnered is likely more attractive than your average man: because he is likely to on average be more attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 12:10 AM |
| 6 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.No thank you, you can familiarize yourself with BASIC things like Google searches and well established research findings before engaging in "serious conversation" about those topics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 07:20 PM |
| 5 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.Except it isn't misusing anything. A cursory Google search turns up several sources INCLUDING the top level dictionary result referring to BOTH senses. I'm unsure what's arbitrary about the concept: women raise their standards for physical attractiveness and other attributes for short term relationships. Pretty clear. And again, it's a fallacious logical leap to claim that because a concept is mislabeled that necessarily means it is subjective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 07:15 PM |
| 8 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.You're being deliberately obtuse at this point. You understand the concept that TRP is trying to convey but object that it must be subjective because they use the word in a different sense than usual. Of course again this ignores how language works....words develop new senses all the time. Not to mention its also a fallacious leap in logic. No I don't need to present basic research for you. You need to familiarize yourself with the 101 level findings of topics you choose to opine on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 07:09 PM |
| 9 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.Except collquialisms and slang cast doubt on your viewpoint of "everyone must use the exact dictionary definition of a word or else all is subjective." Again, would you prefer the term be appended to "casual sex" hypergamy? And you can use Google to study the well documented inter-rater correlations on physical attractiveness. It's a "sky is blue" finding at this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 06:32 PM |
| 13 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.Not really, there's a lot of research backing that up. Again you're relying on the technical definition and arguing that because it's not the technical definition it must necessarily be subjective, which simply doesn't follow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 06:24 PM |
| 14 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.You're basically saying that because TRP defines hypergamy along casual sex/short-term relationships it becomes a subjective evaluation...which isn't correct. It's established in research that women raise their standards for physical attractiveness and/or other superficial metrics when considering someone for short term mating. You could say, oh well that's not technically hypergamy because hypergamy includes marriage in the definition but to me that's you being pedantic. It's just a shorthand t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 06:14 PM |
| 5 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsIf a woman marries a baiter bux, has his kids, then divorces him per the typical narrative, she's also a single mother. So what | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:57 AM |
| 1 | If current hypergamy continues, there will be huge genetic bottlenecks and eventually endemic defectsThe problem with this argument is that women are largely having children with the "baiter bucks" dudes.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 03:51 AM |
| 23 | Life without a partner becomes very boringDisagree. I haven't had a relationship in two and a half years and these have probably been some of the happiest I've had. Maybe you mean a life without companionship or physical intimacy. I'm pretty sure if most men could get sex outside of a relationship, they'd be happy being single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 02:48 AM |
| 0 | Clearing up the morality debateThe red pill doesn't give anyone a choice it just offers advuce that ranges from bad, i.e. act like an alfalfa to make women attracted to you (attraction doesn't arise from behavior), to "duh-doy," i.e. lift bro, take showers, have purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 02:44 AM |
| 3 | is there such thing as in ''a fair criteria''?Fair criteria would be people choosing others based on how good of a person the potential partner is. No one does that. For now, people choose others based on culturally determined standards of "who should get sex" that boil down to appearance, mostly. Which creates a winner take all marketplace on the male side People who say anything two people agree to is fair don't understand bargaining power and historical and cultural forces. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Fringe opinions promoted by engagement are skewing your conceptions of the other genderThis is somewhat true. But there's a difference here between the market for casual sex and the relationship market. For relationships there's a path for even very below average men. The terms of that relationship may be lopsided but yes they can get relationships. Casual sex is a different animal and more what a lot of the content refers to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 04:40 PM |
| 5 | Treat her like an employee . . . not a slaveRed pill is stupid. Treat her like a really good friend you fuck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: I think your rating scale miscalibrated when talking about "average women". Which of these women is average to you?4.5/10 A 4/10 B 4/10 C All 3 are a bit below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 04:37 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women don't have a reason to complain about men not putting in effort.Men are willing to settle with normal women. The opposite is not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 10:11 PM |
| 3 | It is valid that women dont want to engage in relationships with men anymoreI mean this ranges from weakly true about minorities of men to flat out false regarding what women are looking for in a partner. They aren't valuing character or personality more, they're valuing looks more. The biggest evidence that they aren't choosing these traits comes exactly from the men responsible for the most violence against women: men that women choose to let into their intimate lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't have a reason to complain about men not putting in effort.False. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 06:27 PM |
| 26 | CMV: Women don't have a reason to complain about men not putting in effort.Women who complain about whatever effort you're putting in = not into you so not worth consideration. Women who are interested are happy to spend time with you. If more men just stopped wasting their time and attention on the maybe Women, you'd see a lot of positive change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 08:26 AM |
| 6 | Is Western society going to become more attractive in the next 100 years due to women having more choice than ever before?Society will therefore get more and more good looking as time progresses. The ugly genes will slowly die off. Assumes that what makes someone attractive is meaningfully due to their genetics. IIRC the heritability of facial attractiveness is around .4; so right there, you have an issue. There's no meaningful link between attractiveness and health, that was debunked fairly recently. So I suppose you're saying that what makes for great genetics = just being attractive. If hypergamy is real and obj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 03:50 AM |
| 1 | What are the 3 most off the mark RP philosophies?Behavior in any way influences a man's attractiveness in the short term, i.e. acting alfalfa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 01:28 AM |
| 0 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostJust most of the ones women go for. Like I said stay in denial lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 12:33 AM |
| 0 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostWay of the world. Accept it or not, it is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 12:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueYou're ignorant of basic research surrounding women and hypergamy. You're also apparently ignorant of what an overestimating of value is. When a group prices itself out of a market i.e. women failing to get what they believe they are worth en masse, this = overvaluation. As such you're not competent to discuss. ✌️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueSo you're wanting to argue about basically established facts now? And no, buddy. If women aren't getting the relationships they believe their worth entitles them too, they are the ones overvaluing themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueIt's not speculation... Hypergamy is a real phenomenon. So you handwave that. Then you handwave the fact that men will lower their standards for casual sex but not relationships. Then handwave the fact that men also don't mind misleading women they're using for casual sex about their intentions. Which leads to women believing they are a romantic 7 when they are a romantic 3. You handwave evidence of this by saying women are willing to walk away, as if that increases their value but it doesn't. F… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 11:01 PM |
| 0 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueThe specific claim is that the market is being interfered with. Hypergamy itself necessarily requires a disparity in value and itself would lead to misinformation regarding one's personal value. You deal with this nowhere. Just one example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueYou're not using economics. You're just arguing that the market is necessarily free and all values are optimized despite evidence of several factors interfering with the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | If most men are vulgar and disrespectful than the wholesome ones should have no trouble connecting with women... yet they seem to struggle the mostMen are vulgar and disrespectful to women beneath them physically. Women who shoot out of their league will run into this behavior a lot. Solved the mystery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:38 PM |
| 0 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valuehttps://images.app.goo.gl/EwnukoFyUWXBFJ9n9 Wrong. You're just engaging in just world "reasoning" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueSure buddy boyo, a 3 who refuses to date a 6 is correctly estimating her value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 10:06 PM |
| 2 | I think most men don't truly understand what being attractive is, and can be just as entitled delusional as the women they complain about.That's nice. The GSS disagrees. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | I think most men don't truly understand what being attractive is, and can be just as entitled delusional as the women they complain about.If women were so easy to attract having 5 partners in a year wouldn't put a man in the top 5% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 09:09 PM |
| 0 | CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their valueOf course, this misstates the entire issue. The issue is one of misinformation. The idea is that women conflate their casual sex value with their romantic value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/23 06:34 PM |
| 4 | Self-sacrifice as a masculine virtueOf course it is.... ...how else can you convince someone to work to feed others, make others rich, etc. Pretty much all of society's recommendations on "being a real man" boil down to making you as disposable and useful as possible. No thanks. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/04/23 09:17 PM |
| 4 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.Is it? There are a good amount of women who think that purposefully delaying sex serves some purpose | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 07:46 PM |
| 2 | Theories on why Average and Underaverage women are harsher on men than actually Cute womenAverage and below average women are more insecure, and especially if you're GL, they're just on a higher guard. A hotter woman is simply more likely to believe you actually like her without ulterior motive...because so many men do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:52 PM |
| 1 | The Biggest Mistake When Looking At Sexual Marketplace Data On Men Is Looking At The Average/MedianAs someone who was posted in one of those "are we dating the same guy groups" (with allegedly over 100 comments!!!!!), you're painting too rosy of a picture for men allegedly in that top 20%. Every man who's going the road of short term mating will be dating down. In fact the only way to date across or even up is to pursue a more, for lack of a better term, "beta" strategy. There is no valhalla in looking good as a man. You just have more and better quality women you date down to, mostly. You st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:49 PM |
| 1 | TRP is not based on science, it's based on what intuitively sounds trueTRP is right about us living in a gynocentric society and there is pervasive anti male bias (I was shocked too). It's wrong about the effectiveness of game....the main practical nugget in TRP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Claiming that "women make guys they like wait for sex because they don't want to be viewed as slutty" is dumb and makes no sense.If a woman is sexually attracted to you she will have sex with you pretty fast. Not necessarily within an hour but within a few meetups. If she's not sexually attracted to you near instantly she's trying to warm up to you. I just don't waste my time with women who need to warm up to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:42 PM |
| 2 | Many men who have nothing going for them and are low value try to get high value or attractive women, and then complain and moan that they’re “alone forever” but don’t ever lower their standards.This is simply not the case for anyone beyond a slim minority of men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:41 PM |
| 4 | As a man, your perceived ability to get casual sex will define the tone of every long term relationship you haveDecent observations but... Not quite. I think it's your perceived ability to get a casual sex partner as good as your SO. And it's less a raw power imbalance (a woman at your level or even below will always wield a greater ability to attract partners) than it is women are very insecure. All the women I've been with in relationships have been super jealous...with one even going through my phone and shit several times. Now, in the past, that was warranted...I did cheat. A lot. So IMO it's not real… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Men, how long is waiting for sex too long?Lol 3 dates if I think you're really something. Otherwise if it's not happening the second time we meet I usually nope out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:34 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is more important in relationships: Similarity or polarity?Neither. Attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:34 PM |
| 2 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.Nah that's too harsh. By date 3 though, that's reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:33 PM |
| 1 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.3 dates is pushing it... But yes I agree. I really don't want to invest too much into someone I'm not sexually compatible with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:32 PM |
| 9 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.Lol spoken like someone without much experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:32 PM |
| 3 | It makes perfect sense to wait for sex if you want a long term relationship.Not really. Best case scenario it sets a precedent for sex being used as a bargaining chip. Worst case constant blue balls. Sex should happen when two people feel attracted to each other and comfortable...not on arbitrary timelines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 06:31 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastInsecure about what, exactly? Measuring up to past lovers, mostly. Only a narcissistic bully It's not a taunt. In many cases, circumstances make insecurity reasonable. So why are men not allowed to be insecure that they also might end up with a broken heart? They are. My biggest insecurity now is the risk around investing too much MEAT into a low value, impulsive woman that is more likely to cheat or quit. And I don't want to be used for my MEAT any more than a woman wants to be used for sex. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/23 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Sexy-Havers Only Discussion ThreadExcept you can't grasp basic statistical inference so why waste the cite.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:15 AM |
| 1 | Guys: your biggest cock block in life is not society, culture, video games, feminism, drugs, schools, or even women themselves refusing to have anything to do with you! Your biggest cock block is your Phone!Saying that looks are all that matter in the short term, i.e. initial dating timescales, isn't nihilism. And no, not look "put together" or ordered...LOOK GOOD. Completely subjective and whether your remarks are received as charm or not largely boils down to whether the target thinks you look good. No one gives a shit about this . Sounds like you have a lot more error than experience. Things are very simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 08:10 AM |
| 1 | Sexy-Havers Only Discussion ThreadYeah so you're completely ignorant of statistics and why they're useful...cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Sexy-Havers Only Discussion ThreadNo you can say women generally. That's what's great about studies and statistics...they allow general inferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:34 AM |
| 3 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastYou first boyo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Sexy-Havers Only Discussion ThreadIt's not false its just the correlation isn't perfect. Studies even show women orgasm more for hot guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:13 AM |
| 0 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsYa you'd project a bunch of that onto him via halo effect and likely get involved with him | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/23 04:11 AM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.24% pill or IUD. Women using female sterilization as their method are likely much older and not represent much in the relevant dating pool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:35 PM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/contraceptive.htm Annnd I'm right. Thanks for playing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Men's SMV doesn't actually increase with aging.It doesn't have to increase. I'd say that generally, if we're talking about RAW PHYSICAL ATTRACTION, men have more potential later. If a guy takes care of himself, a lot of times you will actually look better with age. Like me for example, I lost the fat in my face and the bone structure really came out. I got shredded, too. I actually got laid like bananas in 2020-2021, a time during which I was unemployed and the poorest I'd been since college. I have a doctorate and have a professional licens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:30 PM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.Lol nope. I'd say probably 1 in 5 women is on the pill or an IUD. Idk why people just speak out their butts about reality | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:24 PM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.They aren't... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:22 PM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.There's the pill and there's condoms and there's pulling out. That's about 98% of the in practice universe. And no one likes condoms. And a lot of women aren't on the pill or are very flaky about taking it. Most people aren't practicing safe sex, in other words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV, when it comes to finding an egalitarian husband, the West is already the best bet.Huh? No I'm saying that the west isn't necessarily a great bet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 11:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV, when it comes to finding an egalitarian husband, the West is already the best bet.Not really. Men who hold varying degrees of sexist attitudes toward women are far more successful with women than more egalitarian minded men. So the type of man a woman would be interested in dating otherwise probably is still pretty non egalitarian | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:55 PM |
| – | The solution to anti-abortion laws for married couples: the catholic church's 'natural family planning' initiative.Lol most people are doing this anyways...kinda. No one likes condoms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:54 PM |
| 4 | A lot of dating advice given by women here only works for womenWomen give great advice as long as they advice is not an answer to "how do I attract a woman?" I've been amazed many times in life by the EQ of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:53 PM |
| 5 | Isolation, Technology, and Individualism: Exploring the Trend of Distancing Ourselves from OthersHuman beings need good relationships, platonic and otherwise, to thrive. Generally though people have a lot more control over who they let into their lives these days, which I think is a very awesome thing. In the past you were limited in so many ways and had to tolerate shitty social scenes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:51 PM |
| 7 | Sexy-Havers Only Discussion ThreadThe whole sex as performance thing needs to go in this culture. A person isn't good at sex. Two (or more!) people have good sex. It's an INTERACTION. Generally the best weapon on your side is to LOOK GOOD. If a woman is highly attracted to you, generally it makes for good sex. But as a matter of variance, you're going to have bad performances. Best sex: idk there's been a lot of highlights. Me and an ex gf used to have some great marathon sessions I remember fondly tho. Worst sex: been several l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?Reread my original comment man I explained it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?Accuracy isn't what makes a statement a lie 😎 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?Lie is a stretch. And I just explained why above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:54 PM |
| 12 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastIt's mainly a cultural ick factor tbh. I used to have that ick factor too...when I was 15. Then I started getting laid and magically I stopped giving a shit. Look at you, ordering women around lmao about what they should put in their bodies. Idk seems like an insecurity thing bro...which is reasonable. But stop acting so high falutin about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeAnother one showing male peak at 50 https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/online-dating-out-of-your-league/567083/ And no you're just supposing the men aren't physically most attractive because you don't agree with it. Either pony up some evidence that the desirability increase is due to something other than looks or shh. I've been to meetup groups: several are limited to 20s and 30s only. And as for OLD the above study IS FROM OLD where men PEAK AT 50. Like...start backing yoursel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeIdk at this point you're just spewing a world view. You're wrong about the most desirable looking age for men https://www.thegentlemansjournal.com/article/women-attracted-men-age You're acting like it's that hard to join a meetup group or a dating app to meet women near you: it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:20 PM |
| 5 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeand is constantly surrounded by women who are ALSO in the prime of their loves. And yet it's men in their 20's who struggle the most to get sex, as evidenced by a higher percentage in this group going without it than in pretty much any other cohort. And if you think 22 as a man is the prime of life --- LMFAO. The 33 year old is older, has less energy, less horny, and isn't meeting women beyond the middle aged HR people at his work. Pretty much untrue. Remember, we stipulated here that both men L… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:13 PM |
| 0 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastIdk I'm in the triple digits myself so 15 is pretty much a drop in the bucket to me 😎 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 05:10 PM |
| 4 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeThe 33 year old guy hands down. First, I actually have lived this experience. My success in my early 30's versus early 20's = night/day. Second, the 33 year old has money and life experience on his side. So a 22 year old who looks good vs 33 year old who looks good = no contest, 33 year old takes it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 04:51 PM |
| 4 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastK don't even know what you're on about, exiting discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:50 PM |
| 5 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastVast majority of women are gonna clock in at 15 bodies or less. Nothing you said is inconsistent with what I said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?It does solve that problem. Their tastes vary less than is believed and not at the level most men need to reach to have a successful dating life --- their threshold for finding him attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:33 PM |
| 1 | What do women actually gain by getting into a committed relationship with a Red Pill man?Um. By red pill do you mean "traditional," as in, the man provides financially completely while the woman provides domestically completely? Let's sidestep the obvious issues with TRP --- stupid and silly alfalfa behaviors that aren't effective at anything but making someone look like a jackass --- and focus on the gender roles. If that's what you mean, then the man would bring a lot to the table...ostensibly. Idk, supporting an entire family on one wage and taking of the property etc. is a lot. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Cmv: Social expectations push men and women to essentially speak different languages because the purpose of basic human communication ends up differing from the other.men to be able to communicate vulnerable feelings in an incomplete work-in-progress imperfect way without being ostracized or abandoned for it. Nope. Definitely do not use communication for that purpose with my partners. What's she supposed to do, kiss the booboo and make it better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:27 PM |
| 6 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastNo dude, most women simply aren't that promiscuous. Hate to burst your bubble. Vast majority of women are gonna clock in at 15 bodies or less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:17 PM |
| – | Yes. S3x and being socially accepted is a need.Sex is not a need. You can go your entire life without sex. Terrible reasoning and extremely unempathetic. By the same logic friendship and laughter also aren't needed. Being blithe about misery is a bad look. Rape being terrible is a red herring. Just as he's dismissing rape, you're dismissing another source of pain. One that you are likely unfamiliar with and cannot understand because your perspective is radically different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:13 PM |
| – | Yes. S3x and being socially accepted is a need.The first solution is to laugh at the second string fallacious reasoning. Sex being important does not necessarily equal rape apocalypse. No sale. You have many other solutions. Monetary compensation. More inclusive cultural programming regarding what male phenotypes can be considered 'attractive.' Less toxic shaming and vilifying of sexually unsuccessful men, i.e. rather than say a perfectly normal man lacks social skills, character, hates women, and whatever else, we say, 'oh he just falls out… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:09 PM |
| – | Yes. S3x and being socially accepted is a need.People who say sex/intimacy aren't core human needs are morons, it's true. Study after study shows that fulfilling relationships are the cornerstone of a healthy life --- including romantic ones. Maslow put it on his pyramid of needs at the bottom alongside food. People who resort to Ayn Randian "entitlement" arguments about what this person or that person is owed are also morons because they live in a world that has overwhelmingly rejected that line of thinking. Be it in the form of welfare ent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 01:06 PM |
| 52 | Promiscuous women who preach that you shouldn't judge women by their sexual past are the first ones to judge virgin guys for their lack of sexual pastThis isn't true. The most judgmental women regarding this kind of stuff I've come across are women who are middle-of-the-road; as in, N O R M A L. Women who are more promiscuous tend to somewhat understand being ostracized or shamed socially for something that may not encapsulate who they are as a person and so tend to be more sympathetic in a lot of ways --- excluding the train wrecks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:54 PM |
| 3 | Parents, how has it been for you observing your children experiencing dating?I'd help my daughter by setting a good example in how I treated her and her mother. Having a spine, being dependable. Balance. All a father can do to help a daughter with regard to this. IMO women are conditioned by the dynamics they see between their father and mother with regard to what they find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:51 PM |
| 3 | Guys: your biggest cock block in life is not society, culture, video games, feminism, drugs, schools, or even women themselves refusing to have anything to do with you! Your biggest cock block is your Phone!At the end of your reply you say I didn't say any of that. If you’re not hot, getting off your phone and trying to interact and meet people IRL when you can show your ability to compensate for whatever you’re lacking physically is the way to improve your chances of success People are just as superficial in real life, boyo. There are three rules men must follow to have social success (1) Look good (2) Initiate/be extroverted (3) Never show weakness Of these 3, the first is responsible for nearly … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 12:03 PM |
| 2 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsYet another non-sequitur unless real world experience and peer-reviewed research also comes from the manosphere. Well, you had a chance to discuss. Seeing as that you can't and are on some crusade to assuage your own beliefs instead, I'll leave you to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 10:16 AM |
| 4 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsBleat bleat bleat, more assumptions and more worldview shilling. No sale, tool. Go troll someone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:48 AM |
| – | A Week in the DarkGuys and gals who rely on looks but deny it are stupid. Better hollow than stupid, I say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:25 AM |
| 6 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsIt's childish to think that calling people with opinions different than yours names is in any way compelling. Multiple peer-reviewed studies have been done coming to the same conclusion. They must all be incels, too, right? Learn to accept reality rather than bleat your own preferred worldview alongside character smears, tool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:21 AM |
| 4 | CMV: “Insecurity” and “Trust” are words increasingly being used to gaslight menUltimately it still boils down to men being pussies. Like, they're so afraid of someone trying to pull some bullshit calling them "insecure" that they'll alter their behavior? Fuck that, buddy boyo. If x or y bothered me and it was objectively shady or a bad situation and my partner tried to pull that shit and call me insecure I'd give them the gift of missing me for life, son. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:16 AM |
| 1 | For a lot of men ages 20-30, their age isn’t perceptible at first glance. There is also a wide range of maturity levels/life experiences during this decade. So what *exactly* is it that women find “creepy” about a 30-ish yo man interacting with early-20s women?Secondly, Oh buddy boyo... ...as a man entering his late 30's who has some serious experience under his belt and who actually very recently went on a date with someone 16 years his junior, this point of yours is... ...just... WRONG. For better or worse, the life experience gap is so huge when dealing with women --- or just people --- that much younger than yourself that you inwardly chuckle half the time. Why? Because you can easily see the facade. You can easily see why they say this or that. Y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:09 AM |
| 5 | Parents, how has it been for you observing your children experiencing dating?I have a son, but he's not at that age yet. I plan on having more kids, too. I can tell you this... for my boy and whatever other boyz I may have... I'll be ready. My kids are gonna have the real deal on what's going on, unlike 99.9% of the other sillies running around. So they're likely going to crush it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 09:00 AM |
| 9 | Guys: your biggest cock block in life is not society, culture, video games, feminism, drugs, schools, or even women themselves refusing to have anything to do with you! Your biggest cock block is your Phone!Meeting, befriending, flirting, and communing with women is easy as shit. If it's so easy why are the majority of men not only single but increasingly not even interested in dating? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/08/for-valentines-day-5-facts-about-single-americans/ I guess you must know something all of them don't know. Wow golly gee. Filed In: OP has no clue. And I think women are somewhat insulated from the same effect in that women crave authentic human to human interaction … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 08:49 AM |
| 7 | Guys who struggle with dating have you ever asked a female friend how to fix your looks?Way back in the day, shit over a decade now, when I struggled with dating, even then I knew "asking women for help" was a stupid idea. Why? Is it because women are all divided about what they like? While it's weakly true that women vary more than men in who they find very attractive, they don't vary that much regarding who's simply attractive, i.e. meets their cut-off. So no, it's not that. It's because society's other foot has yet to drop regarding the true nature of the genders. Men, we know, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 08:38 AM |
| 3 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsMan, so a lot of real world experience and peer reviewed research is delusional I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:58 AM |
| 5 | the fundamental issue with most dating advice directed at men is most of it boils down to “be someone else entirely”Most dating advice centered around men is all about being someone else entirely ITT: OP discovers what beauty standards are and that they apply to men. This kind of dating advice is all about making the external fit some societal standard Yes. its all about pretending to be someone else, and the worst part is this person you’re pretending to be is often so surface deep Pure fantasy. In real life, by focusing on being the best superficial version of yourself you can be...your individual unique qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:50 AM |
| 5 | Moderately successful men in their 30s with very limited dating experience, have to be a very harsh decision to takeThis is malarkey. Any guy at any time can rack up as much dating experience as he wants, provided he looks good. Which means that, the only barrier to greater success for most men is looking good. And in turn, men who are in their 30's with some resources and no kids should just take a year or three, save some money, do whatever it takes to look good, and then they can just start life fresh. No dire scenarios necessary. The only enemy here is the misinformation about what causes dating success -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:44 AM |
| 2 | What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health?LOL what a silly theory that should be disconfirmed by the fact that you and your husband are both gamers... having a normal sleep schedule, eating healthy, and exercising and it's ability to help with things like career motivation, self esteem, endorphins Cool because of (a) just the nature of the current dating market (b) the insane misinformation surrounding the current dating market and (c) the current anti-male (I was shocked too, but it's a real thing these days) societal bias, precisely w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:40 AM |
| 7 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsFirst of all, Eeyore is beyond tight. Second of all, anyone who thinks that any of that stuff means anything for male dating success in 2023 is delusional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:36 AM |
| 1 | stop blaming others for your dating failures & ask urself touch questionsOh buddy boyo, you word vomited the same "bootstraps" crap that illustrates an extreme ignorance of both the dating market and the issues men broadly face. Congratulations. Unfortunately, a wider world isn't out to get you If you're a guy, this seems empirically false at this point: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35587425/ Do you practice personal hygiene and grooming habits? (do you have the exact same haircut from when you were 5 years old?) Imbecilic question that reveals the true gap in you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 07:34 AM |
| 3 | American capitalism has destroyed datingThis isn't exactly a hot take. Articles with the Marxist spin started appearing circa 2014-15ish. The problem with this "analysis" is that it lacks context. It fails to describe the system that came before it. If we have a continuum of "forced arranged marriage" to "completely free mate choice," what we'd find is that the marker has moved decidedly across that spectrum toward more freedom. While what we had wasn't "forced arranged marriage" before, one's social circle and direct social network w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 03:53 AM |
| -1 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.Mostly correct within the bounds of not shitting your pants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 10:02 PM |
| 8 | SOME men in your league will try to use you. But if you only go for men above your league, ALL OF THEM WILLmen heavily lower their standarts when it comes to casual sex (pages 4 & 5). This source states that male standards for physical attractiveness are actually higher when searching for a short-term mating partner. While I believe that's largely BS, just FYI regarding your own source. Men of all types try to use women. Not really. Not all men are comfortable with casual sex. When I hear this I always think "Yeah, no shit, you are rejecting any man that might want a relationship with you because you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 09:57 PM |
| 5 | TRP is a description of the world not an instruction on what to do about that reality. TRP does has no inherent aim other than to model and represent the truth of the dating market in a methodical, structured way.TRP indeed is a worldview. And it is incorrect. Mainly in that a man's behavior, in a short-term mating context, exerts almost zero effect on a female's sexual attraction for him. Because the main and only significant premise of TRP is false, it's not really worth paying attention to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 09:34 PM |
| 3 | Do You Think This Woman Was In The Wrong?Hahaha. ODDS -- This guy is less "attractive" than the guys she normally "swipes for." Consequently, he's more attentive. She wants really bad to like him. She doesn't feel "that feeling" with him. She's just taken aback that a guy expressed strong interest in her (likely due to inexperience). The OP's priorities are clear: she doesn't mind being treated like shit as long as she's sexually attracted to whatever her standard is. Likely will express weird bullshit about commitment and talk about h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you think in general having high social status allows men to get the highest quantity/quality of woman?No that's just one way of looking at it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:24 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in general having high social status allows men to get the highest quantity/quality of woman?That's not status, it's race which can be either status or looks based depending on how you look at it. You'd have to have a western Asian outcompeting local Asians for it to be status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Do you think in general having high social status allows men to get the highest quantity/quality of woman?No one said he couldn't however who's MORE LIKELY TO BE SO. Kthx | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 12:04 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive.Those kings and warlords go from humpin' it to humping it and back. Except they don't... Consider how badly autists suck at getting into relationships ...which would in 0 way be helped by 'roughing it,'... Like I said. Your advice is only useful to the extent it makes the men look better. Otherwise it's superfluous. -Go to gym -take steroids much better ROI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 11:52 PM |
| 3 | Do you think in general having high social status allows men to get the highest quantity/quality of woman?Status is the afterburner tiebreaker mostly. For example, in a group of athletes, they're all more or less going to cluster around the same attractiveness level --- pretty high. How do you sort them? The superstars vs. the benchwarmers, of course. But a benchwarmer who showed up in let's say, a hyper nerdo circle would probably still outcompete the highest status guy in the nerdo circle due to the attractiveness advantage. Everything on top of looks is more or less a tiebreaker among equivalent-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 11:34 PM |
| 14 | CMV: Dumping awkward or unattractive guys into the Alaskan wilderness in late winter might make them more attractive.LOL To the extent that dropping people into any activity for X amount of time correlates with them L O O K I N G G O O D, you're right. Everything else, however, is garbage. Women don't care about your skillz or whatever else. Here it is: Short term: Looks Long-term: Looks + Earnings + personality To become truly mature, people must be tried, like gold is tried in the fire. Yeah bro, that's why the Kings and Tribal Warlords are out there humpin' it rather than chilling in their palatial residenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 11:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Contrary to what most on here believe, it seems much harder for men to get a long-term relationship than to hook-up.If by figure of speech you mean you said something that directly contradicts what you're trying to say now, sure, it's a helluva figure of speech. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 09:52 PM |
| 4 | Women don't get that its not men complaining they can’t find a 10, but they can’t find 6 or 5 eitherMen complain a lot because they don't want to just accept the truth. The things that they want to matter do not matter. If you want praise on your great personality: look good. If you want praise on your charisma: look good If you want to get laid more: look good. Go to the gym, get the tats, use the roids --- do whatever it takes. There is no other answer. Accept the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 09:49 PM |
| 8 | Your probably focusing on the wrong stuff in dating?So you start by completely misstating the issue. Can't take it seriously beyond that. Men aren't complaining about not being able to find 8/10 insta influencers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | How can men exploit their sexuality?Yes. By lying. Just lie. About everything. The only part of game that works is lying. Goes like gangbusters if you embrace the dark side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 04:47 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Contrary to what most on here believe, it seems much harder for men to get a long-term relationship than to hook-up.Bro you said it doesn't take much... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 03:19 AM |
| 1 | What frustrates me about PUA is it's effectivenessExcept it doesn't. "PUA" will never ever make a woman who isn't attracted to you, attracted to you, which is the main stated aim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:24 AM |
| 1 | What are some good standards men could have for women they date?Sleeps with you on your preferred timetable Sexually compatible Kind Common values Common goals. ^ in that order | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV : As a Man i believe using Game and Manipulation is immoral, but i believe u have to do it because otherwise u cant compete, and this is actually sad.Game as defined in OP is ineffective and doesn't work at all. Women are either attracted to you or not. "Game" doesn't make you more attractive. Now if you want to just call "game" lying....then maybe we can talk, because lying in various ways does help ones short term mating success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:18 AM |
| 4 | Do very attractive men have a hard time respecting women because they know first hand how easy it is to get most woman to cheat with him?Lol that's not why any man with experience has a hard time respecting women. ...the experience itself is what makes it hard | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:16 AM |
| 4 | What is worse to you: getting no female attention whatsoever, or getting female attention from the worst, lowest women only?All men engaged in the nsa/fwb are doing so with women less attractive than they. Pretty much an ironclad rule. No attention is worse: because then there's not even the option to get your needs met. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:13 AM |
| 14 | CMV: Contrary to what most on here believe, it seems much harder for men to get a long-term relationship than to hook-up.K bro if it's so easy for men to get hookups why does 5 partners in a year put man in the top 5%? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/23 01:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Approaching Tons of Women as a strategy to not be alone will always worki realised through working in sales A field where many simply wash out because they can't sell.... that ure value cant be so low that u cant converte, even if youre a ugly short introverted dude, your conversion will still hit someday. ...buddy boyo, the field of sales and the amount of washouts it has is enough to disconfirm this claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 07:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV : The Club shows that Looks alone dont bring result, and that a worse looking dude with better social skills has a better experience.ITT: OP realizes that all men have to play the numbers game if they're to see any measure of success. Water is also wet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 07:41 PM |
| 3 | CMV: We have turned relationships into leisure, most relationships are no longer focused on starting a family or working towards a common goal, as a result people are naturally gonna get pickier with their optionsCompletely ignores the lopsided nature of the dynamic: only one side is being pickier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 09:34 AM |
| 3 | Why do women needs groups to discuss terrible men? Are women just that bad at vetting or are men just that terrible?As a man who has had a lot of issues with cheating, it's really not quite like that. The gf tends to be near the top of a guys range. Most options won't be as good as the gf but probably worth a shag. Look at the women some of the most famous and desirable men in the world have cheated with. A lot of them aren't stunners. Or at least not as good as the significant other. Why? Men fuck down and if lucky across. Women fuck up and if unlucky across. Ironclad rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 09:30 AM |
| 2 | Why do women needs groups to discuss terrible men? Are women just that bad at vetting or are men just that terrible?As someone who got posted in one of those groups to the tune of allegedly 100 comments... Yes women are bad at vetting men....that they're attracted to. I don't think I'm terrible. I just am pretty hardcore about people not wasting my time with bullshit. This can translate to "asshole" to people who enjoy wasting someone's time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 09:23 AM |
| -1 | Can most men really afford to cut off women who don't reciprocate their effort?Yes. Ironclad physics: if one woman has had sex with you, many more will. My dating process is pretty hardcore. If me and her aren't touching/kissing/holding hands within 20 minutes I end the date and move on to the next. Mostly the women who respond are less attractive than me. But occasionally a real hot one will respond too. Best to wait for the good ones than to suffer through the peek a boo auditioning process known as "normal dating." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 09:18 AM |
| 6 | Do attractive women even comprehend rejection if it comes before sex?Not necessarily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?I want a peanut butter sandwich. I think I just want a sandwich generally. Therefore it must follow the sandwiches I pick are all peanut butter sandwiches and moreover that I sort through the sandwiches efficiently to find the PB sandwich Spot the error... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?It doesn't follow if people don't understand that what they're seeking is physical attraction dumpkopf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?If a woman is attracted to you it's pretty easy to get away with most anything.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Do attractive women even comprehend rejection if it comes before sex?Why would I care that much about a woman who isn't sexually interested in me? Like, honestly, are men supposed to be that eager to waste their time? You sort through the ones who are sexually interested in you for all that other stuff. You don't invest emotionally until then. A-dooooy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 06:57 PM |
| 15 | Do attractive women even comprehend rejection if it comes before sex?Women probably think they handle rejection well; and for the most part they do, because they have a lot of options --- not because of any special character strength. Last night I was on the phone with a chick who matched with me and was interested in meeting. So I asked what she was looking for. She said 'people to hang out with.' I said 'oh so you're not interested in dating me, you just want to hang out with me.' And I shit you not, she said 'yeah,' then tee-heed. So I hung up on her. Not out … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 06:51 PM |
| 2 | It is commonly stated in the ‘manosphere’ that men’s SMV peaks later in life. PPD men over 30, have you actually found your overall value to increase as you’ve gotten older?Yes. A lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 04:48 PM |
| 0 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?Reread what I just posted, Socrates. Maybe you'll understand it this time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 06:39 AM |
| 0 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?So you think playing like Socrates will somehow evade common sense and experience? People don't know that's what they're searching for which is why they make a list of bizarre and arbitrary judgments beforehand i.e. "I want a man who is rich, oh this guy invited me for a drink what a cheapskate." Is arbitrary, superficial and also against the main goal. DUCY | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?Not the behaviors that are judged. Not really. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?Not really. The superficial body language and behaviors of ND are part of physical appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 02:10 AM |
| 8 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?Women disqualify people for all sorts of inane nonsensical reasons that they don't care much about after they invest in any particular person | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 02:00 AM |
| 3 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?For people to find other people they're physically attracted to. Nothing else meaningfully exists in that window. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:52 AM |
| 12 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?The fact that you believe a personality can be accurately assessed in the initial window of dating says it all. It ain't that that's being judged | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Yeah BECAUSE you're going to find something in ALL THESE STUDIES that is somehow wrong. Like idk why people can't just accept basic shit Like you somehow will summarize these results better than the researchers themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:04 AM |
| 2 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Ya maybe all of those studies are just wrong and being misinterpreted. Lol btw. It's in the abstracts kiddo, believe it or not idgaf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 01:00 AM |
| 3 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.Meta-analyses showed intriguing sex differences and similarities. Self characteristics better predicted women's attraction than they did for men, whereas partner characteristics predicted men's attraction far better than they did for women. The strongest predictor of attraction for both sexes was partners' physical attractiveness https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19558447/ However, as a predictor of romantic interest, there were no sex differences. Only the responders' perception of the targets' p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:53 AM |
| 3 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.IDGAF about that. And yet, study after study, and real life experience demonstrates that women very much do care about it. Maybe you're the exception... Plenty of guys get laid being fat or scrawny. Maybe if they're in relationships. His muscles mean nothing to a woman who wants a relationship I think she’s a dumb meathead. LOL I can find guys attractive and find their personalities so repulsive Eh, this seems more about proving something about yourself than just being honest about how the world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:35 AM |
| 3 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.That’s different to each woman. Not really. An 8-pack and muscle tone and defined facial features are pretty much universal currency. That’s MOST women. Um. Not really a compelling counter-argument. You guys really overestimate how many women want hookups. Has nothing to do with 'hookup' or 'ltr,' the initial infatuation with a man who looks good tends to be responsible for both types of interest. A lot of the 'personality traits' women say they like about a man are just projections of their phy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:20 AM |
| 1 | It's perfectly sensible for a woman to be rapidly promiscuous with some men, and have tougher criteria for relationship-material menThe bar for this type of relationship is fairly low, you just need to show that you're good looking, reasonably personable, and may be decent at sex. Criteria for job, family background, religion, etc, simply don't apply here. That's not how it works. First, you don't just need to show you're 'good looking,' you have to be pretty much a lot better looking than her in almost all cases. Look at this graph: https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:1400/format:webp/1\*iC0UjKDxFViE3XZuk6MMUw.jpeg This s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:16 AM |
| 3 | Women giving dating advice to men doesn’t work because guys ask for vague advice.The other thing I noticed is that these guys want a One-Size-Fits-All cheat code to get literally any woman. There is one, it's called LOOK GOOD. There is nothing else, really --- unless you're hanging out with someone over a longer period of time, in which case your personality can work against you (or for you). (1) Go to the gym; roid out if you must (2) Lean out to where your face reaches max definition PROFIT. Any man's dating life will improve much more doing (1) and (2) than pretty much an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:04 AM |
| 2 | If women are the ones who control the dating market, wouldn’t it make sense for men to lower their standards instead?This assumes male standards aren't already dropping... I feel like it would make more sense to go for women who are not a 10/10 LOL That's not what is happening. Men aren't shooting for 10/10's. No man who goes, for example, on a dating app, is going to get his 'equal' Doesn't matter if you're a 10 male or a 4 male. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/23 12:02 AM |
| 29 | Are men far more accepting to neurodivergence than women when it comes to dating?how is this even a question? Yes. Women are, bar none, more superficial and arbitrarily judgmental during the initial stages of dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/23 11:59 PM |
| 1 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysWhy? It's opposing his view | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Poke holes in FD Sig’s new video on masculinity and desirabilityYeah except a lot of that health and fitness stuff has been disconfirmed by research... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 05:57 PM |
| 1 | A theory as to why women are liking more feminine guysYeah so humans ALREADY evolved to have fairly low sexual dimorphism compared to other mammals. The places where humanity evolved were fairly easygoing on survival, despite common conceptions. That's why hunter gatherer tribes are pretty egalitarian, communal, and had longer life expectancy than "civilized folk" up until 150 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Every single plot for women main characters is them getting wet over a bad boy when they dont want toThe plot of Little Women disconfirms the entire view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Nice Guys, Assertiveness, Passiveness and Simp: Why men NEED to be assertive in datingMost women don't want a guy who's whatever about seeing them. and then the rest of the post contorts itself into recommending a certain kind of simping. Buddy boyo, if 'hey that's cool let me know' isn't enough for a chick, then that chick isn't that into you and you're wasting your time. Hanging out is low effort. That's precisely the point of it. Low stakes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 10:11 PM |
| 6 | Why don't more young men learn how to validate their own masculinity instead of always depending on the stimuli of women, other men and society at large?Nail on the head, right here. Ironic^2 that this post presents itself as an alternative to traditional masculinity while invoking tried and true traditional masculinity shaming mechanisms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 10:09 PM |
| 10 | Most young men are single. Most young women are not. Why?^ why most young men are probably avoiding young women. Observe the typical youthful female's head and its up posterior location. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 06:12 PM |
| 2 | "Be her friend first" or "Make your intentions known" - Which is it?It's both and neither. If a woman likes you she likes you. You could make your move now or in 10 years and it wouldn't matter. However, the reason it's best to be forward is purely about efficiency. Why waste time with someone you want to fuck not knowing for certain if they want to fuck you back? There is no "this thing" or "that way" working with women. They either like you or they do not. Women are very simple. Like men. Just simple in different ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 02:21 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?My mistake. Sounds like a weirdo. But the way you describe the other guys sort of tangentially leads me to another one of my well-worn points. The things that typically will turn a woman on about a guy are his height and his body. for your face to do it alone you have to be at a very very high level. You said those guys weren't models but were built and tall and all that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/23 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?Typically high end fashion models are regarded as more facially attractive than the "Hollister" types. But you say no one would think this guy was good looking. So that's kind of a weird contradiction. Who ended things between the two of you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 11:49 PM |
| 16 | What is Creepiness?Pretty much. Now watch everyone come here to deny the obvious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?Lol you literally said he looked like a fashion model... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?10 bucks says objectively the 1/4 guy was the best looking... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 08:37 PM |
| 3 | Why do women have long term relationships with guys they don’t physically desire?Buddy boyo, you've cracked the code. Screen hard for women who are down for you on sight. The rest of them simply aren't worth the trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 08:35 PM |
| 5 | What is the reason for why women find most men physically unattractive? What would we need to doIt's not fair to say they find men unattractive. There's just not many men any woman knows or meets that look/present in a way that near instantly arouses/attracts her. So they tend to get to know people and as they get to know them, they become more attractive. Two solutions: screen hard for the women who are instantly attracted to you or accept that for the most part, you'll be going on a lot of 'get to know each other' dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 07:21 PM |
| 0 | Playing hard to get worksThis study is crap. Go read speed dating studies where people make real decisions about partners and you'll see that this stuff has almost zero effect on the outcomes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:29 PM |
| 3 | Women By Nature Are Indirect When It Comes To Romantically Rejecting A Man.This is true. Water is wet. Women are generally pretty cowardly about confrontation. Hence, as a man always be escalating. You'll find out where she stands quick and fast. I tend to dip out at the first sign of any 'no.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Apparently "reading the room" is harder than people here claim it isYou read the room by making a move and watching to see how it is received. All of your examples involve the guy being passive. That's not how it works. Even when women approach you to talk or whatever, you're going to be the one who has to escalate and see whether or not she's open to the escalation. The only test of whether a woman is interested is if she keeps allowing escalation. You can have women flirt with you, make out with you, even on rare instances sleep with you, who aren't particular… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 06:25 PM |
| 4 | Decided to play around w/ my FWB’s tinder…Water is wet. I've already said it a billion times, two crucial factors are dispositive of getting laid as a man: (1) VARIANCE (2) LOOKING GOOD in that order of importance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Q for men: Do men very concerned with unintended pregnancy come inside women?Facts. All. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 06:43 AM |
| 0 | TRP is slowly becoming more and more mainstream, what is this going to mean for the future?TRP has been 'becoming mainstream' for probably 15 years now. It has yet to crack in... Attention-getting people getting youtube subscribers really isn't much to hang your hat on. The talking points you mentioned likely could be found at dinner parties hundreds of years ago, too. Mainstream conservatives will always dovetail with TRP because it's essentially a rebrand of traditional gender norms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Q for men: Do men very concerned with unintended pregnancy come inside women?Yeah, sometimes. Look, boyo, 99% of the time in my life any birth control that was happening was on my shoulders. I can count on maybe one or two hands the number of times a girl even really seriously mentioned condoms. When people are hot and heavy they just don't care much. I have great pullout game but sometimes the moment gets the better of you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 08:03 PM |
| 4 | The pregnancy risk is certainly true but overblown as an excuse to reject average guysLol if you think most women care that much about condoms. ... Yeah that's right. I said it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 12:56 PM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeNope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 01:48 AM |
| 1 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeYeah.. you missed the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/23 01:13 AM |
| 3 | When it comes to dating, asking for people's opinion will get you nowhere. You need to pay attention to what people DO.Your first problem is hanging out with women you want to fuck "joking with them." Why? It serves no purpose. You should make friends of the sex you want to date, and watch who they date I don't have to do that to know what women like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 09:15 PM |
| 0 | Displaying stereotypical gendered behavior is crucial to get laid as a manNot really. Looking good helps you get laid. I actually switched over years ago to just asking if a girl wanted to kiss, rather than just alfalfa male style 'going for it.' No diff in results. However in a long-term relationship being traditionally masculine helps and the less of that you are the more it hurts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Promiscuous men are excused because of hormones5/10 Troll | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 07:01 AM |
| 7 | Women's attraction is overrated by menYa plenty of women have told me they wished I'd emote more... ....and yet we were fucking like rabbits. Do you know how you listen to a woman correctly? Repeat what she said back to her, ask her if that's what she meant and then say "I understand." /done Try it out for yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 06:18 AM |
| 15 | Women's attraction is overrated by menKnow loads of untrad masculine guys with long time SO's in there 60s with 40 year relationships And I know loads of guys who don't look as good as [conventionally good looking celebrity here] who are in LTRs. So? No one's saying that one has to be perfectly anything. However the closer you are to 'perfect' on those two metrics, the better you'll do generally. Also what counts as trad masculinity? Its arbitrary and very open depending on whp you ask. Not really. Show no weakness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 01:32 AM |
| 49 | Women's attraction is overrated by menBuddy boyo, I'm all for 'just beeee yourself.' Ultimately you attract the right type of partner. However When it comes to efficacy, the facts are the facts. In the short-term: look good and have a little luck on your side. That's it, that's all, there's nothing else. In the long-term: look good, have a little luck, and be traditionally masculine. That's it, that's all, there's nothing else. These are the things that attract women in those contexts. If you want maximum ROI, that's the route. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/23 01:14 AM |
| 2 | For men who have opened up in a relationship, how did your SO respond?https://media.tenor.com/-3uerd0wLxsAAAAM/awesome-the-rock.gif | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 11:24 PM |
| 1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Okay, in my life I see people who are pretty much equally matched. Very rarely do I see exceptions either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 11:15 PM |
| 0 | Dating for a women is like shopping on Amazon where as a mans experience resembles building a niche small bussiness from the ground upBecause I have extensive experience with online dating I can confirm that there's a lot of truth to this. A lot of guys think that 'oh once I get matches, I'm set.' Nope. A ton of those don't respond, flake, etc. This is why the 'Chadfish' 'experiments' prove basically nothing. Women can get very flirtatious in DMs without materializing into much of anything. But going further, let's talk about what kind of business this business is. It's not a business that centers around offering the best long… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 11:13 PM |
| 1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Dude you're seriously warped if you think that provides serious insight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 06:12 PM |
| 18 | The Red Pill Lies/ exaggerates the Evils and Problems Women Allegedly causeFine since you're holding evidence in favor of false accusations to a certain standard hold your own evidence regarding rape to the same standard: only 10% of rapes actually happened as rape and the rest were "false accusations." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 04:00 AM |
| 3 | Should we just raise the consenting age to 25?God damn Logic is hard to find on this sub. Bro, consenting relationships can still be weird or creepy. Dumping someone because they turned a certain age cam be rightfully seen as callous. No one is saying the women are being raped, boyo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.I'm supposed to look at social media for proof women only do what they say they do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.^ fax. Any time a girl told me I wasn't mentally stimulating enough to her or whatever it was already after we'd fucked and because I made it a point not to talk to her much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/23 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.You literally said the more attractive you are the less your personality tends to matter. That's not necessarily true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 09:53 PM |
| 3 | Do older women have less value in the dating market than younger ones ?Yes and no. Relative to herself a woman loses value as she ages. But relative to others is a matter of how hot she is and how well her looks keep up over time. But, and I've noticed this as well, it's easier to be an older woman's best option, so they tend to be more attentive and nice. Younger women hard push the fact that they have options into your face both in how they talk to you and how they behave towards you. Which is why dealing with older vs younger women requires different skillsets. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.The amount of sapiosexual women I've encountered who haven't even gone to college is enough to dispel it as a real thing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 09:27 PM |
| -1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Well personality still matters even if someone finds you attractive. You glossed over insecurity and other factors that tend to cause women and men to shy away from those they consider really attractive... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:20 PM |
| 3 | Did you ever get to fulfill your wildest sexual fantasy?Why? I've tried a lot of that shit too and come to the same conclusion. It's way overhyped IMO. I'm vanilla not for lack of exploration but for lack of a better alternative. Nothing beats fucking a chick straight into the mattress. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Did you ever get to fulfill your wildest sexual fantasy?"I just want to fuck, God damn." I just found my epitaph. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Almost anything a man does can screw him over in datingOne that's fucked me over several times is confusing girls I'm talking with and accidentally send one a text meant for another. It's like women have a 6th sense for when you're talking to other women or something because half the time they were innocuous comments.... Many first date meetups canceled this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:07 PM |
| 2 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Exceptions don't make the rule | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.I think demosexual women are just extremely insecure and need extra affirmation the guy won't hit it and quit it tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 08:00 PM |
| 8 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.There's universal currency which plays fairly well in all markets and there's niche currency which plays well in one or two markets and dismally in the rest. So if a classically 10/10 white guy hits on kpop lover...do you really think she won't "give a shot" to Captain Universal Currency? Don't be naive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Demisexuality to me has always sounded like bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Your personality is irrelevant if you fall below someone’s threshold for what they find physically attractive.Water is wet OP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/23 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.The main part of it about behavior supposing to cause someone to be attracted to you who wouldn't be otherwise...in the SHORT term...is my main issue with it. Masculine women are great. IME they have high sex drives so he's lucky there lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.I think TRP is stupid and don't follow it anyway. You strike me as a more masculine woman. They're a little different IME | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.I mean there are a lot of sexual politics at play here as well. For example even if a woman is fine with comforting you, her attraction for you in time will drop. Part of what women are programmed to like is the archetypal man, so any deviation nets a sex penalty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.I think masculinity is bullshit. HOWEVER I'm obliged to follow the rules of engagement lest I suffer. When society changes that'll be great. It hasn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:20 PM |
| 1 | A lot of the behavioral differences of men and women can be explained by a simple evolutionary observationdo you really think it’s not true that people don’t automatically seek the most attractive partner? The most physically attractive? Men probably. Women, probably not. Women are very very very insecure. People forget this. They get intimidated when there's too much of a gap between you and her in whatever the category may be. They often will auto reject themselves in those situations. The famous OKC study is always half quoted on here, regarding women rating male looks, i.e. 80% of men below aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 08:32 AM |
| 2 | If you're going to date someone from a screwed-up background or unstable home, your chances of having a healthy relationship are extremely slim.I'd argue those factors matter much less than you believe and the positive or negative reinforcement the person has received in their peer groups since adolescence matters far more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 07:53 AM |
| 1 | His/her past matters, it is perfectly fine to judge someone's past behaviors and family background to know if they are capable of having healthy and monogamous relationships.It matters, but it shouldn't matter more than (1) how they treat you NOW IN THE PRESENT and (2) how they make you FEEL. You don't have to save shit. People who try to save people are ultimately trying to change people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.That's what makes it special. What's so special about it? An audience? Crying actually helps your body get rid of various chemicals and that's why you feel more clear headed and capable afterwards. And it isn't a weakness. Another thing does that as well: normal human metabolism. Going to the gym releases endorphins too, as do a host of rec drugs. Unfortunately lots of people look down on women for crying. Not to the extent of men, but it's definitely not you want to do around strangers or peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 07:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.You don't know me, so you besmirching my character based on two lines on the internet is the hallmark of a dumbass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 05:12 AM |
| 0 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Acceptance from one person isn't acceptance from the general society that I have to interface with regularly. But it's really an efficacy thing. Like holding hands and singing Kum bye yah. It doesn't solve anything. It's like a celebration of weakness. Which is fine if you're a woman but the world simply punishes men for it. Life is about redirecting emotions not lingering in them. To me crying is lingering rather than sublimating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 02:23 AM |
| 2 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Yes. Duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 02:11 AM |
| 0 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Whoever you're crying in front of will likely unconsciously lose some amount of respect for you, no matter who they are. Crying itself does nothing to actually remedy whatever wrong you're crying over. It's also pretty gross just from a hygiene point of view...snot, salt tears. It's also a silent admission to yourself of helplessness, which can damage one's personal confidence and belief in autonomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 02:11 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Yeah pretty much. From an efficacy standpoint. There's not much to gain and a lot to lose from doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.All right I could be wrong, too. I haven't cried since I was 12. So my circle is 0 including me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Right and if weak = crying/expressing emotion the behavior would be teaching you to devalue crying and expressing emotion, wherever you see it. People tend to turn into their parents via the conditioning received. I too like to be the one to cheer people up. I honestly believe there's more of a power dynamic aspect to it than meets the eye. Food for thought, I could be wrong. I don't know you and there's certainly no fault in showing others comfort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.All right that joke came off a little harsher than intended. And we all have our power preference origin stories. Rather than regale you with mine that's just my opinion on why you have no issue with being the comforter rather than comfortee. For it to be as simple as the story you told you'd also hate to see such weakness in others, don't you think? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 10:08 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Red Pill dating strategy for men is effective but unfulfillingRed Pill dating strategy is more successful than being yourself, but ultimately fails to cultivate a meaningful relationship, and is morally offputting tl;dr You're wrong. TRP behavioral tactics aka game are ineffective at cultivating attraction that did not otherwise already exist, in the short-term (the primary focus of TRP). Ironically, because personality traits cultivate attraction over time TRP strategies will work to attract a certain type of woman. Usually damaged. So if you hangout with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 09:58 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Whatever you say, dude. And I do my best to surround myself with people who don't act in such ways As do I. Doesn't change the fact that the majority is what it is. Likewise, I hold myself to higher standards than I hold others...for example, I have no trouble at all comforting my guy when he cries, but it took me years to be able to cry around him. Yeah because the comforter is in a power position. You're not holding yourself to a higher standard, you're comfortable operating from a place of po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Oh darling, that's not how social conditioning works. It trains us all to hold others to standards we, often unknowingly, don't hold ourselves to. Bless you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 09:45 PM |
| 1 | A lot of the behavioral differences of men and women can be explained by a simple evolutionary observationSo whatcha got here is confusing "simple evolutionary observation" with "just-so stories that conveniently match cultural tropes" or "out-my-asservation" to the layman. Then y'got the confusion of "science" with "post-hoc rationalization." Men with high body counts are seen as desirable. As someone with actual experience in this area, that's not really the case...but hey, let's just toss out a counter data point: https://www.psypost.org/2016/12/study-finds-number-past-sexual-partners-large-effec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 09:34 PM |
| 2 | What even makes a woman unattractive, really?I'm short, have some mental illz, and have spent parts of my notorious illustrious career below the poverty line. I suppose you're right in that I still fucked. In the short term almost all of what you listed off is irrelevant. In the long term, yes. But it's really not as stark as you're making it out to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 09:21 PM |
| 7 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.The issue here is that we're not even talking about things that are even mildly inconveniencing to other people. If a man straight up utters complaint A in tone butthurt = shame on him for communicating in such a weak way. He could not raise his voice, he could stay perfectly still, and it wouldn't matter. We're not talking about cases of real threats to person or property, or even yelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 08:18 PM |
| 0 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.More like "ick there are ways to express sadness without being a total insecure whiner. Gross." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 07:21 PM |
| 8 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Lol define and spin however you want. The rules of engagement are what are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 07:20 PM |
| 25 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.Yeah it's "fauxnerability" Tell us what's wrong in a CALM, MEASURED, JOCULAR, OR WARM TONE. All other tones will be shamed with the modern equivalent of calling you a pussy, not limited to but including: Ur bitter Whoa ur toxic Ur personality is obv why x y z is wrong in ur life It's so sad how socially programmed people are in their knee jerk reactions. Edit: Forgot 4. Armchair psychoanalying/presuming mental health issues | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 06:20 PM |
| 3 | I actually think women SHOULD find a man who has already made itWhich means that you think women shouldn't have to invest in someone else through good times and bad. You know, richer, poorer, etc. So then if women are only interested in who has made it, no man will ever be loved for who he actually is, which means there's no reason for him to invest in any woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 06:14 PM |
| 40 | Anecdotal evidences of the state of men's mental health right now. Please add your own. Discuss.All you need to know about the only masculinity that is rewarded in this country is here: https://youtu.be/w7OVmuc7hRw Before anyone disagrees, a common flavor of this type of masculinity that is modern is the "be vulnerable but only under x conditions....which mainly involve not overtly expressing the emotions you feel." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/23 06:06 PM |
| 0 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.It's as if I don't answer to you or something. You're a dumbass, dude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/23 05:25 PM |
| 6 | CMV: men have an accountability problem with all this talk about how they "date down."One time a woman was mean to me so I guess that means all women are mean, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 05:51 AM |
| 2 | What happened to the Tinder algorithm? A few years ago I used to get tons of matches, but now I hardly get any.It's not just you. The apps have been getting harder every year. It's to be expected. They have to make money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 05:09 AM |
| 15 | CMV: men have an accountability problem with all this talk about how they "date down."The reason women don't ask men out is because they're way more offended by and scared of rejection. Get off the soapbox. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 05:08 AM |
| 2 | You are offered 1 million dollars, untaxed. In exchange, you can never have sex/sexual intimacy ever again. Do you accept the offer?That's not really that much in 2023 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 05:07 AM |
| 2 | The Floor matters more than the ceiling when it comes to your attractiveness to womenThis is preposterous. Looking good does turn women on sexually. U ever fuck someone even though you've barely spoken? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 03:37 AM |
| 2 | The Floor matters more than the ceiling when it comes to your attractiveness to womenIf it makes you feel any better, the majority of the approaches are more for attention than anything else | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 03:36 AM |
| 1 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'Hence the fact that there's a reasonable probability undermines your point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 02:02 AM |
| 1 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'How do you know the married guys aren't in open relationships of some type where they can have their cake and eat it too? No m'lady, that was a QUESTION, not an assumption. That's me asking if you had any support for your assumption. You then referred to the notion that 'most people are monogamous.' I then pointed out that such an argument lacks force when talking about celebrities and the elite. Then you got confused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:58 AM |
| 1 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'I didn't misunderstand shit. The point is that her counter-example is materially weakened by the fact that the men she's claiming are exceptions to this lifestyle may not really be exceptions to Leo's lifestyle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:52 AM |
| 1 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'Oh FFS Logic 101 Proposition: Leo is living the dream life. Counter-example: Rich famous men with older wives. ASSUMPTION: These rich famous men aren't also living that dream life on the side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.No. I'm talking unhealthy toxic relationships to great amiable ones. I've been in both --- the frequency and quality of sex was a constant. here are literally women who express the fact that they are attracted to their husbands but can’t bring themselves to fuck bc of his behavior It's as if they aren't attracted to their husbands or something. ur gonna leave these men thinking no woman will ever be truly attracted to them More men should screen this way and think like that --- that only the one… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:50 AM |
| 0 | The Floor matters more than the ceiling when it comes to your attractiveness to womenGame in the sense of personality attracting women in the short term who weren't otherwise attracted to you, doesn't exist. Looking good is the number 1 way to get laid. Idkwtf a masculine vibe is supposed to be and extremely subjective, hence NOT ACTIONABLE. Look good = actionable. Men care about results, not woowoo, which is essentially what you're peddling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:23 AM |
| 15 | The consequences of sexual liberation have been a disaster for the human race.Cliff notes: OP hates women having choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:22 AM |
| 7 | "If a guy likes masculine girls, he's gay." How often is that accusation true?What the shit did I just read... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/23 12:21 AM |
| 2 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'It's relevant because you're trying to provide a counter-example to a proposition. You're making an assumption based on your counter-example that may be unwarranted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:26 PM |
| 4 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'Yeah, when you're talking about a select group of elites, the whole "most people" argument flies out the window. And an open relationship doesn't preclude them loving and caring for older women, so idk what you're on about. And also...idk, be more immune to clickbait and see it for what it is, rather than the diehard opinion of the masses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Men of PPD, to what extent are you willing to sacrifice basic morality in order to win over/impress women?If that's your example of morality, then none of the above. Not because I'm opposed morally to it, but, once again, those methods do. not. work. Otherwise...all's fair in love and war, boyo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 08:43 PM |
| 1 | Bluepillers are right about personality, but only thatWomen easily lose sexual and dating interest if your personality is too dry or insecure. Over time, yes. They often do not even give a second chance to those guys. Lol I beg to differ. Those men are not uglier, but they are more shy or awkward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21999758/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 08:42 PM |
| 5 | 'Leo's doing what every man wishes he could do...'How do you know the married guys aren't in open relationships of some type where they can have their cake and eat it too? Moreover, I don't know where Leo has been touted as the main or only model of a "man with many options." At best it's, "hey...noice." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 08:31 PM |
| 2 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.Nope. Sexual attraction. Real sexual attraction, is pretty much orthogonal to the 'relationship stuff,' as it were. Like, it's almost like its own compartment of the relationship. You can fight and bicker and argue about all that stuff, but at the end of the day you're still gonna have sex. That's my life experience, but like I said, I screen hard for high sexual attraction from the get-go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 07:58 PM |
| 2 | Why haven't women built their own independent, semi autonomous female utopia?men are complaining about not having women for relationships And the "unrealistic standards" women have, and how women "treat them," you know...complaints about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 07:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.Oh I didn't realize I was talking to a Saint. Excuse me, your holiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 12:49 PM |
| 6 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.Seriously. An ex gf and me were together for years, through me cheating, through us living together, etc. We fucked every day. This whole "muh emotions" stuff is crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:40 AM |
| 5 | When women and men refer to the "friendzone", they are each imagining two very different scenarios, which causes the animosity and confusion over the topic.No everyone knows what the friendzone is and the type of relationship it refers to. There's no confusion. Being friends with a woman you want to fuck is stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:25 AM |
| 6 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.Everything anyone does is "linked to their emotions." Women aren't special in that regard. It's very simple. If a man looks good and screens for women who are sexually attracted to him at first glance and sight, this is less of an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:24 AM |
| 20 | CMV: AF/BB is real and ubiquitous. Countless studies have found that women in marriages and LTRs are less interested in sex.Lol non-sequitur Women in LTRs lose interest in sex therefore af/bb is true? Sorry boyo, it takes more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 09:22 AM |
| 1 | Why haven't women built their own independent, semi autonomous female utopia?Men haven't built one either. I'm unsure what the point of this question is. Why, because group A has some complaints about group B doesn't group A just build its own separate mini civilization? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/23 06:06 AM |
| 1 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestI wasn't saying race is a clade (although it could be). There are definitely common ancestors for different ethnic groups? No, there aren't. This is why you need to actually know about biology. When two groups have an overwhelming supermajority of genetic variance within the group rather than between the group you are not dealing with a common ancestor situation. What you're claiming is akin What I'm claiming is basic population genetics. You keep shoehorning inapt analogies, such as 'no it's li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 11:50 PM |
| 3 | Women complain the most about male horniness and yet they benefit the most out of itYeah, they benefit a lot from rape and sexual assault. Think next time, buddy boyo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 11:42 PM |
| 2 | If you are a man and you want sex and relationships but aren’t able to get them, you have no right saying women’s standards are unrealistic"If you're a man and you want money but aren't able to get money, you have no right saying it's hard to make money in this society." Filed in: DOA logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:43 PM |
| 1 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestNo dumbass, race isn't a clade and isn't part of cladistics because there is NO COMMON ANCESTOR. Christ, know a bit of biology before spouting off about it. And yes those circles would draw a specific ancestry very well. Which you'd understand if you knew anything about biology. Which you don't. The degree of interelatedness you refer to will be approximated by most any circle you draw on the map, because alleles vary in frequency in every population and every population has a general diaspora. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:08 PM |
| 13 | Most people agree that there are not enough high value men for all women, but we don't agree what causes itOh Jesus Christ and the vilifying begins.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:44 PM |
| 1 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestDegree of relatedness is in itself a reason to group populations Again, you still didn't read what you read. No, they won't. So you don't understand population genetics. Dope. You could, it just wouldn't be very useful since it doesn't describe ancestry and shared genetics etc. Yes, it would you assclown. Any circle you draw on a map will for sure have a common ancestry and degree of relatedness. Do you know why? Because we're the same species, dumpkopf. Gene flow has pretty much ensured that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:31 PM |
| 0 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestAncestry grouping and therefore degree of relatedness (i.e. race or ethnicity) is neither arbitrary nor useless Read what you read. There's no reason to draw population groups in any particular way. A N Y Population Group will demonstrate the same features. I could draw random circles on a map and produce "genetic races." Please now tell me why the particular population groups historically used to justify oppression and artificial hierarchies are somehow biologically necessary and relevant. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:20 PM |
| 0 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestLiterally any population group "is a reflection of someone's genetics." There's no reason to draw population groups in any one particular way. They are biologically useless categories, demonstrated best by the fact that there are no common ancestors for the white race, black race, asian race, and whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:11 PM |
| 16 | Most people agree that there are not enough high value men for all women, but we don't agree what causes itSimple economics. Wealth inequality is skyrocketing, prices are going up, men are getting left behind in education and soon jobs. Women don't like or want to be primary breadwinners for the most part. Less men who can provide = less marriageable men. Simple maths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Women do not naturally desire older men; they are forced to settle for them; and have a strong preference for men their own age.He fell for a stripper, started dating and taking care of her. One day, he was admiring her photos on Instagram Yeah we will have to throw out this example altogether, as it's just a doofy normal guy being with a girl who's too hot for him to handle. For every doofy loser you can name, we can rattle off a Clooney. For a woman in any given age group, her top pick will be a man who is also in that age group and qualifies (her preference for looks, status, character). He will be the first in line f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:03 PM |
| 8 | Why is a man "responsible" for making a woman cum?Buddy boyo, it's reddit. If you say anything someone disagrees with you, by default, must be an incel loser who has never made a woman cum/happy/attracted/whatever. As for the question... It's just good business. Especially if you want to play the casual sex game. An easy way to differentiate yourself from the competition is just make sure she has an orgasm every time you're together. Trust. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:59 PM |
| 5 | Can you realistically generalize the genders, or is it impossible?Of course it's possible to generalize when you have real world actual experience. The problem is that most guys simply don't and never will have the triple digit+ sample size to make true generalizations and will have to rely on TRP or whatever other nonsense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:58 PM |
| 1 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestIt's a thing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 03:04 PM |
| 1 | What is "status" excatly? Is it your value currently or your value in the future?Lol This is the real world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:24 AM |
| 2 | Every man pays for sex in one way or another.Depends on what you mean by pay. If a girl is just excited for you from the jump you didn't pay anything. But if you mean that, from a transactional POV, there's always a quid pro quo, then that's true but trivial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:11 AM |
| 3 | What is "status" excatly? Is it your value currently or your value in the future?It's a combination of many things ranked in this order Your rank in your group of friends Your income Your career Your possessions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Men are power objects, women are beauty objectsMaybe for long term relationships? In the short term, both are sex objects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:09 AM |
| 2 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestIt's completely natural to sort by unnatural and arbitrary categories, he says. Grade: F | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:31 AM |
| 0 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestI'd say white >> Hispanic >>>> black >>>> Asian >>>> indian | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:30 AM |
| 1 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestWhy not? Whatever. Do what it takes buddy boyo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 04:30 AM |
| 10 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestYeah, because that allows racists to be racist without living with the fact that they be racist. For sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 02:18 AM |
| 5 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestFor sure. Doesn't mean you're not being racist 8) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 01:48 AM |
| 3 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestYes, racists tend to hate being called racists. Oh well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 01:13 AM |
| 1 | If a woman has to recondition and force herself to find you attractive the relationship is doomed from the startSaid it once and I'll say it again: the get to know me method and means of attraction is not worth it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 01:13 AM |
| 6 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestL O O K G O O D Do whatever it takes to look good. It's very simple maths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 09:38 PM |
| 14 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestAgain...water is indeed wet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 09:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do we use national all age averages?Almost 60% of young adults are overweight or obese https://www.medpagetoday.com/primarycare/obesity/95828 This is not a meaningful difference. The difference in general obesity between urban and rural counties is about 6% https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2018/s0614-obesity-rates.html Cut it any which way you want, most people are fat no matter where you look. Take a course in google searches. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 09:03 PM |
| 36 | “Go to Asia” is imprecise advice at bestIt's not funny, it's water is wet. People, especially women, are sexually racist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 08:58 PM |
| 1 | When does dating market decline for men?My dating life got better once I hit my 30's. It's true though that if you're on dating apps, it just keeps getting tougher year after year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What Does "Being Confident" Actually Mean?Nothing. It's usually a woman projecting her feelings about a man onto a characteristic she ascribes to the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 05:40 PM |
| 1 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outFace is kind of binary. There's a level where no one could seriously say you are not good looking. Maybe it's cultural, maybe it's objective. It really doesn't matter. It's a level. If you're relying on your face, you need to be at that level, and it's just not realistic to go for for the vast majority of guys. I only get to that level when I'm pretty lean and fit --- based on reactions, at least. Fitness IME is mainly down to your shoulders and waist, with arms being an added bonus. That also g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:16 AM |
| 3 | The long and short of it is as a man you need to be attractive and high value and if you refuse to do that or simply can’t then unfortunately life is unfair and you will miss outbut fundamentally you’re just one of those who “lost” the game as it were. Is this a 'water is wet' post? So you have a choice, bust your ass, drop out, or accept your fate. You already said the person 'busted their ass' to no avail. the ONLY person who has any responsibility as to whether you find any success with the opposite sex is yourself. Thats it, that’s where the buck ends. Ah, it's another 'no one owes you anything' post. Naturally, because we live in a welfare state, such a position ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 01:00 AM |
| 4 | RP and related manosphere ideologies are only going to result in women becoming even more selective, less sexually available, and purposely choosing to avoid men altogetherThis is part revisionist history: Young college aged women in the 80s- 2010s for example were not really being shamed on any overt level for having casual relationships. Part half-truth: which benefited men in that they often no longer had to propose marriage or even seriously court a woman to get sex. And the rest is malarkey: And now a growing number are choosing to shield themselves from the negative impacts of this culture by becoming more selective, less receptive to sex, and some are decid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/01/23 12:51 AM |
| 2 | What are some examples of shit tests?False dilemma. There's another group who thinks shit tests are just thinly veiled excuses for men to take shit they don't have to. They aren't tests, women aren't testing for anything. They're either being insecure or just straight up being bitches. Proceed accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Women Are Significantly More Likely To Lose Interest In Sex In Long Time Relationships In Spite Of Age, Relationship Satisfaction, Sexual Satisfaction, and Child Rearing Status.Depends on the problems you want to have. That's all. Sex has never been a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 05:02 PM |
| 58 | Women Are Significantly More Likely To Lose Interest In Sex In Long Time Relationships In Spite Of Age, Relationship Satisfaction, Sexual Satisfaction, and Child Rearing Status.This is pretty much why I don't really trust the "get to know me" method and medium of attraction. I've never had this problem in my long term relationships because I screen for women who are highly attracted to me from the jump. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Women’s n counts are not impressive because it’s easy for women to fuck. But it’s easy for a natural Chad to fuck too.And I'm saying you don't speak like someone with experience. Once again, the NAF will still deal with a good amount of flakes, weird rejections, etc. For every girl that comes over. Go look at tinder data, go read stories gl guys tell about dating apps. It isn't like you're making it out to be. The main difference is VOLUME | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 08:48 PM |
| 20 | Women’s n counts are not impressive because it’s easy for women to fuck. But it’s easy for a natural Chad to fuck too.working out is basic hygiene Said in a country where 70% are overweight or obese. Credibility = 0. If TRP was consistent - which it’s not - they would shame all good-looking AF twinks for having high body counts too. Boyo, you speak like someone without experience. All guys have to deal with the same bullshit from women. The main difference is the volume. Man A and Man B probably have the same close rate, Man A just gets more interested prospects because of whatever X factors he has, be it looks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 08:05 AM |
| 1 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?Let's say you are a man that's at the start of the relationship with a woman and she starts testing you with a shit tests. The shit test is one of the dumbest reframes of dating I've ever seen. A woman who's being a bitch to you isn't "testing" you. She's being a bitch. Or she's manifesting her insecurity. Those are the two types of "shit test," bookended from "you don't do this often do you" to "you're a player aren't you?" One is bitchy, the other is insecurity. That's it. That's all. You're d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Rejection Therapy - A Brilliant Idea Or A Complete Waste Of Time?There's no two ways about it, getting rejected will never "numb you" to rejection. It always sucks. Moreover, if you get more experience with women and see just how cavalier, arbitrary, and shallow they can be with their rejections, it starts to color your view of the opposite sex, too. Getting "intentionally rejected" is stupid. Attempting to achieve goals --- no matter what they are --- in the face of rejection is masculinity 101. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:43 AM |
| 4 | Is it better to be hook-up material but not relationship material, or the other way around?It depends on what's keeping Guy 1 from being relationship material. If Guy 1 lacks a HS diploma and is a functional retard, it's going to be much harder for him than Guy 2, who needs to lose 20 pounds and start lifting and maybe get an edgy haircut. But generally guy 1 is the sweet spot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?Oh. Well that's not my experience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Idk you're the one without much evidence. Evidence is necessary in science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 05:16 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Attorneys argue correctly because they understand evidence. You're confusing science with "lordy we can't make any inferences at all unless we have exact -direct- proof" which is preposterous. Is x or y probable is the standard. You're demanding a much higher burden than the discussion warrants, i.e. one based on a general proposition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 04:46 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Attorneys argue correctly. In this case you have no good evidence and are trying to assert your way into credibility. No dice, kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 04:04 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?I'm an attorney. You're trying to argue and you're not doing it well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 03:41 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?You don't seem to understand types of evidence and inductive reasoning. That's how science works. I've presented evidence for my assumptions and my evidence (actual choice versus molding 3d body shapes) is better than yours. I understand you can't seem to overcome this, but you're not fooling anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/23 01:36 AM |
| 1 | There are two identical twin sisters. Both are gorgeous.Which one treats me well? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 11:14 PM |
| 3 | No, the 80/20 rule does not existAll bodies count, for the survey at least. Most men do not get casual sex. From pretty much anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 10:59 PM |
| 3 | No, the 80/20 rule does not existI've been in the top .1% many times...it never feels like it. No matter the ascension or level, you will still always deal with the same bullshit from women. Hear it, learn it, live it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 10:57 PM |
| 5 | No, the 80/20 rule does not existOh sorry, I'm not disagreeing with you. I was pointing out that people have sex way less often than is commonly believed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:51 PM |
| 8 | No, the 80/20 rule does not existMore than 5 partners in a year puts a guy in the top 10%... https://datepsychology.com/how-many-sexual-partners-did-men-and-women-have-in-2021/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:20 PM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?No, you wouldn't even concede they could be generalized to the US. Which is when I realized you were being pedantic and disingenuous to the point of not being able to discuss. It's not like your "studies" are even that great. Asking someone to design what they like != people actually choosing partners via speed date, actually measuring who has romantic success, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:14 PM |
| 1 | I think women do have a sense of entitlement when it comes to men as wellA sense of entitlement to sexual partner pleasure increased significantly over the year of the study, whereas, on average, there was no change in self-efficacy over time. At Time 1 (T1), young women reported more entitlement than young men. Age was positively associated with T1 entitlement, and experience with a wider range of partnered sexual behaviors was concurrently associated with more entitlement and efficacy and was also associated with increased entitlement to partner pleasure and increa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:05 PM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?You're not being precise, you're (a) assuming that I'm arguing ALL, which no one ever argues, despite me even saying I was talking about the general case, (b) ignoring that the West is the main area people on this sub would be interested in (c) conflating my attempt to find common ground with an attempt to do anything other than that (d) ignoring now several studies that show these preferences and (e) continuing to attribute positions to me that I've yet to voice, i.e. anything "evo-psych." Bang… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 07:01 PM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Look if you can't even agree the evidence weighs in favor of the ideal being as such in the United States then you're just being disingenuous. Let's just agree to disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 06:25 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Great, so we can agree that the population generalizes to the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Except it hasn't. Your references argue for different cultural standards of male beauty. Which really is irrelevant considering we're on this board concerned (1) mostly with the West and (2) cultural differences fail to negate the fact that whatever the general ideal is in a given area women cluster around it, which was the general point. I don't have to assume anything. Your own source has the ideal dead on in the US as what I said it is. So we have my sources and your source agreeing for at le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?The dictionary definition should suffice: as a rule : USUALLY https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/generally without seeming to understand that is not, in fact, what they did. Yeah you keep harping on this but in reality there are just too many studies with different sampling populations to really take it seriously. *We collected data on 180 young singles (mean age 26.9 years**) without a steady relationship. A questionnaire and a video sequence (20-30 seconds) of each subject was taken. N… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?I'm talking about what the -----general---- ideal in fact is for better or worse Yes, I did at outset. Generally, women have a type that they prefer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?No, I said just the US generally. You seem to disagree. Please show me a study suggesting there is a class-based difference in the general physical ideal of a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Would you agree that in the US, the ideal is what I've indicated it is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:27 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Except thats not whats being asked of you. You're just being asked to back up your claim that the samples given somehow aren't generally representative. See it's not a fallacy when one side has evidence. You didn't supply evidence, you strawmanned my argument and argued against that. No goal posts shifted, here is what I said at outset: I'm talking about what the -----general---- ideal in fact is for better or worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Don't make my point something other than what it is. No one said anything about all. Just generally. And the first study I showed you was about musculature which was also found as the most significant predictor of romantic success. Like I said, you have no studies and have resorted to twisting my point to argue against it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/23 02:54 AM |
| 5 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?You can't stop wanting something by pretending you don't want it and "focusing on a higher purpose." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:46 PM |
| 6 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?That means you are attractive and probably neurotypical Definitely not neurotypical, slick. I have bipolar disorder and it's quite possible I'm somewhat on the spectrum. but you are taking credit for genetics. Yeah bro, my 5'5, mentally-ill, brown genetics. Being defeatist is only bad if you actually have an edge Buddy boyo, if it's true that only 40% of men reproduced by 80% of women did...then by the odds, in your line there was a great man. Most men have some thing they have to offer. Find yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:36 PM |
| 1 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?It doesn't matter what I want with the girl, tho. I could really like her as a person, too. Same rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:31 PM |
| 5 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?Because he's saying what each sex's fantasies are when it comes to the opposite sex generally; if you see both of them involve low effort to coitus. A man wishes women would just line up at his doorstep ready to fuck. A woman wishes a man would just do all the legwork to get them into the bedroom. Besides, one time a soon-to-be gf showed up at my door wearing a trenchcoat and nothing else and caught me in a 'I really need to study for law finals oh shit shit' mood, which kind of dampened the rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:30 PM |
| 5 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?No you're just being defeatist and afraid. Women tell me they feel comfortable with me all the time while barely knowing me. It all boils down to you and how you're making x or y feel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:20 PM |
| 4 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?We have to play safe, women today may use law to destroy your life, especially those BPD witches. Bro, this is the most overplayed nonsense talking point that gets repeated. I play the hell out of my cards with any woman I'm interested in, and (especially) when I've been drinking, have done some outrageous things. Nothing bad's ever come of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:18 PM |
| 5 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?He's not talking about after you already know someone, he's talking about the first meeting. If you just show up to strange men's doors naked 80% of the time, this may be a trend I could get behind (haha!)...I mean, assuming you look pretty good naked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:15 PM |
| 3 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?men beat around the bush, act unsure of themselves and take forever to ask out the girl they fancy. Def not my reality. But then again women are usually taken aback by how forward I am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:14 PM |
| 3 | How would you like someone to show interest in you? What would help you feel appreciated vs used?If me and her haven't had sex by hangout 3 I pretty much bounce. It doesn't matter that I'm seeing someone else I have sex with, all that matters is that whenever I'm with this person I'm sinking more and more of my time in without getting what I want. Life's too short. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:13 PM |
| 1 | What do men in age gap relationships have to offer the women besides money?Money, resources, lifestyle, maturity, probably better at sex in the sense of being a better listener. Also less likely to cheat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?So? Again, you have yet to show how the preferences young fertile women in the west have materially might differ from the preferences of these WEIRD women. Compounding the problem is that in another study, when the sampled was broadened to just 'young adults' we find similar things... For funsiez, just to tie in with the upper body strength 'WEIRD' study: Although informants stressed the importance of non-physical traits, such as “intelligence” and “heart”, strong arms were cited as the most imp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 05:40 PM |
| 1 | No, women have not "left men behind and upped their standards", they have left themselves behind and there are few worthwhile modern day women to date long-termWomen used to have their community and social circles, whereas now she can see thousands of men in her area at the tip of her fingertips, or use their social media profiles essentially as an advertisement for men. Go outside. Women aren't with whatever invented-in-a-gay-lab specimen you're referring to. Secondly, personality and "listening" or "emotionally connecting" sounds nice if you think we live in a disney movie, but in reality those things have very little to do with how successful a man … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:48 AM |
| -1 | Everyone blames the men in age gap relationships, but women keep participating in them.Everyone keeps whining about rape but rapes keep happening....WHY IS THAT? Haha. Just saying. The logic is silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:38 AM |
| 2 | Modern Women are Self CenteredIs this a CMV or rant? I'm unsure how modern women are any worse than modern men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Yes, when generalized to the entire population. When generalized to mainly the West, I fail to see the issue. So go ahead, enlighten me ;) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 05:56 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Who you have yet to demonstrate fail to represent female preferences on the whole, by the way... ...it's cool, I'm waiting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 05:43 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?You have yet to show how it's bad science beyond speculation and ignoring points against you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 05:40 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Yeah whatever, feel free to contribute your own studies on the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Men in their 30+'s, what are the early signs you are just being "settled for/betabuxxed"?Yeah on account of alcohol logistics mood etc. Don't be an amateur....variance counts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Oh must have put the wrong link in for the first one. But it's a pretty well known study. https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2017.1819 And the methods for the second are right in the abstract: they sampled young adults generally. Lmao you can spin it however you want. White is an ideal the majority of women prefer. Sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Men in their 30+'s, what are the early signs you are just being "settled for/betabuxxed"?Yeah but variance can account for the diff between 1 and 2 or even 3 rather than attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/23 02:08 AM |
| 2 | Holding yourself to some unachievable standard of what it takes as a man to get laid is a recipe for disappointment and resentment"I expect to win." "Well don't do that anymore." "Wow, neat-o...I'm self satified!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 11:57 PM |
| 4 | Men in their 30+'s, what are the early signs you are just being "settled for/betabuxxed"?Sadly I have to agree, if you haven't gotten to it within the 2 or 3 hangouts, just jettison the chick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | Holding yourself to some unachievable standard of what it takes as a man to get laid is a recipe for disappointment and resentmentwill set himself up for failure 100% of the time LOL so far from the truth. As nobody can possibly meet those unrealistic expectations C+ good enough. Once you reach threshold qualifications in one of those categories you mentioned, you're Gucci. So yes, expectations create pressure. Oh well. People like what they like and want what they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 10:37 PM |
| 1 | If it were more normalized for men and women to be friends, subs like this wouldn’t existThere's not much point to female friends, boyo. If you want to have sex with them but they can't have sex with you for whatever reason, that's just a one way ticket to giving yourself blue balls. If you want to have sex with them and they want to have sex with you, then you're being a wuss. If you don't want to have sex with them. that's time you're spending with a woman that could be better spent with a woman you want to have sex with. Keep in mind, I'm talking about best buds, close pals, what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.You're confusing universal currency with a niche's idiosyncratic tastes. A tall, buff, good looking, successful, white dude is likely going to do well in this society regardless of what niche he's operating in --- liberal, conservative, anarchist, whatever. There's a massive cultural, historical, social machine behind that and it penetrates (ha!) pretty much the entirety of the societal space. You could make the same blase' indictment of BDSM and "liberal feminist" women who participate in d/s p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 08:01 PM |
| 1 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).is very closed-minded of you. Not really. People who struggle with mental health issues will always struggle with emotional maturity, for the most part. That’s like saying someone with depression can’t have hobbies or someone with ADHD is incapable of finishing a project No, it's just like saying they're handicapped severely compared to a normal person. For anything to be a mental illness it necessarily must substantially interfere with normal functioning. Right there in the definition is your a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:36 PM |
| 1 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).to defend yourself Against what? You're the one with all these demands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:27 PM |
| 0 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).LOL I didn't come on here with a laundry list of demands and asking the opposite sex to consider "what they bring to the table?" You did. I know I'm not perfect, which is why I think laundry lists are stupid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:25 PM |
| 1 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).women seek men who are emotional providers. Are you emotionally mature? That's what you want. You are not that. Have you processed your trauma in order to avoid dumping it on me? That's what you want. You are not that. Are you self-aware? That's what you want. Doesn't seem like you're that, either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:52 PM |
| 1 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).BPD is manageable and treatable ...and you can't even admit that having an illness that hamstrings one's emotional maturity impacts your ability to be emotionally mature... ...which is itself, immature | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:50 PM |
| 0 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).Although I think I’m a great catch, I’m not without flaws Go look at my other post about struggling with BPD https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14AAAAM/hysterical-laughter.gif You literally just said you had all the qualities you asked for. I'm sorry, if you are struggling with BPD, you definitely lack --- severely --- several of the qualities you asked for. you’re all saying we as women claim to be perfect. No one said that. The bar has just moved, and standards have changed. What used to be impr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Muscles: *Estimates of physical strength determined over 70% of men's bodily attractiveness. Additional analyses showed that tallness and leanness were also favoured, and, along with estimates of physical strength, accounted for 80% of men's bodily attractiveness. Contrary to popular theories of men's physical attractiveness, there was no evidence of a nonlinear effect; the strongest men were the most attractive in all samples.* https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2019.00544/full … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:40 PM |
| 1 | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).Yes, and all the men complaining also think they're amazing catches too. DUC the problem here? Prize-making And also an inability to see that most mating decisions made in the short-term are mostly down to looks and luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:27 PM |
| – | This is why women have become more choosy (from a woman’s perspective).Ask yourselves “what do I bring to the table?” https://media.tenor.com/uYoRGWmBsBIAAAAC/dr-evil-austin-powers.gif This is such a red herring, recycled tonedeaf "MAN UP!" post that completely misses the mark. women seek men who are emotional providers. Are you emotionally mature? https://media2.giphy.com/media/Z36diZTBOwJLG/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47xijqxaobnbedm181hlg52v40nza05zrrx3qddzzh&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Are you an engaging conversationalist? Are you funny? Do you have a hobby or passion outside … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:24 PM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted toYeah that's nice, the reason behind your lack of desire for people of the same species as you is societal racism. Sorry to break the news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 08:55 AM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted tohttps://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150622-the-myth-of-universal-beauty Smattering of studies contending with that claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:50 AM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted toThat's not what the study says. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33481957/ Here's another. Your study is pretty old and that idea is rapidly losing favor. Even a twin study recently concluded that environmental influences account for most of the variation in perceptions of physical attractiveness....and that's a study WITHIN a culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 07:23 AM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted toAll I have to do is show you that these preferences are relative to the culture: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982221003523 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:37 AM |
| 3 | People dont chose what they're attracted toHero comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:23 AM |
| 2 | People dont chose what they're attracted toTruer words never spoken. There is a way more choice involved in dating than most people let on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:23 AM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted toAnd in environments similar to our evolutionary roots, you find a lot of these "hard wired" preferences don't exist.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:21 AM |
| 1 | People dont chose what they're attracted toIt's not shaming to say someone who doesn't date outside their race is racist in their dating. It's calling it what it is. When people are honest about their preferences and what they are, then society can move toward a more inclusive picture of who can be attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?You realize that studies have been done, right? IIRC there's a great one indicating that women mainly care that a guy is athletic and good looking. Just like there's a majority male preference there's a majority female preference. The qualities I've mentioned have been tested via research.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 06:18 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?You might keep hearing it over and over again because there could be some truth about the commonality of preferences.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 05:52 AM |
| 0 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?The women all share similarities for sure. Its hard not to think of them as one woman across different ages if I'm being honest. And that's your ideal, I'm talking about what the general ideal in fact is for better or worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 05:22 AM |
| 2 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.Because I've been kind to women and it made them more rather than less attracted to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 05:20 AM |
| 7 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.No they don't this is such a stupid bullshit myth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?Ok but the sex simply is different when there's a high level of physical attractiveness. Any guy with experience knows this. It just simply is night/day. Idk I'm the same person yet I attract women of all ages, which suggests that tastes don't really change all that much over time. The ideal is tall white good looking rich confident. 2 is great, 3 you're on fire, 4 and yahtzee. Consider that white guys becoming less attractive to you coincides with just...getting older and less able to attract t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 03:42 AM |
| 4 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.You say you're not people pleasing but you're literally putting conditions on the love you receive. Bruh, self aware yourself. Have you never been in a relationship where you could just be yourself and you were loved anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 01:20 AM |
| 3 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.I firmly believe that just about any girl can be the right one https://media.tenor.com/ZlWAqB_MXe0AAAAM/wtf-whatthefuck.gif Buddy boyo, the only reason you think this is because you're still coming from a PEOPLE PLEASER mindset --- "if I just do x, then y will like me/give affection/sex/love tokens." It don't work like that hombre. Seems like you're kind of new on this journey... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?here’s a difference between ‘best sex’ and ‘hottest,’ ELL O ELL Sounds like a distinction made to save face and give consolation prizes. also most women find that sex gets better with the duration of a relationship. That's true. However, the foundation with someone you're extremely sexually attracted to versus moderately attracted to makes for a much different ceiling. And if you don’t think that tastes change, you’re just in denial of reality. Beyond women generally preferring older men as they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 12:53 AM |
| 2 | Not only does the D.E.N.N.I.S. system work, it should be the ultimate blueprint for any man seeking to date women casually.Lol then move on, duh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 12:04 AM |
| 9 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.Dude, if you're kind to your partner and they get bored or otherwise don't respond --- that person isn't right for you. Ever consider that? No. Why? Because you're in the mindset of "I need to do x to get y," rather than "I'm good as I am and the right girl will appreciate me for me." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 12:03 AM |
| 19 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.All partnerships can be mutually fulfilling by finding a balance between kindness and cruelty. To create this scenario you should be a little selfish, hard to please, and have high expectations for how you are treated. Stupid. When two people are right for one another they will be kind to one another. You're viewing this from the perspective of someone trying to win someone over. "To make them do x, one must do y." This is a sucker's mindset. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 11:34 PM |
| 0 | Not only does the D.E.N.N.I.S. system work, it should be the ultimate blueprint for any man seeking to date women casually.I have to admit, the hypogamy/hypergamy factor is an insightful touch. With regard to picking targets, it's actually, surprisingly for PPD, pretty good. You also went way more into detail than It's Always Sunny ever did --- which was good. While, I can't really condone behaving like this. I can say...this type of behavior does work. However, you left out one crucial thing, since we're discussing which asshole/POS tactics work well ---> Never reveal too much about yourself; always keep the conver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:54 PM |
| 4 | The Lack of Critical Thinking Amongst Red Pill MenIt's easier to play victim than to clean up one's own act. After all, victimhood is the new 'cool' in today's society. The same is applicable for young women. Ohhh boy, another one of these speeches.... But if the person blocks out the true reason, all they'll be showing outwardly will be anger. The true reason is obvious: they are struggling to find a worthwhile mate of the opposite sex. It has become a defence mechanism for these young men to instantly go into the mindset of blaming the beings… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:44 PM |
| 5 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?First of all, I never said that the general story was my view on the matter. It's just that you were wondering why someone wouldn't want to be husband material. women to mature in their tastes in terms of men or sex, https://media.tenor.com/ZhDZFffGdWoAAAAd/uhmm-not-really-derrick-boner.gif you don’t think it’s possible for 90% of women to love their husbands. I definitely think that the vast majority of women love their husbands. However, that doesn't mean he necessarily sexually excites her. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 09:26 AM |
| 4 | Value on the dating market is inherited from family and then enhanced by personal achievements and development. Value is not determined by the gender you are born with (or transition to).That is not true in today's society, as adoption is still an option for people who can't have children, to get children. Still leaves out people who do not want children. historically speaking children have been the strongest bonding agent in a relationship because they provided the benefit of allowing the parents to transfer all the wealth and status they acquired in life to their children. Do you have any kids? Because let me tell you, while yes it's true you and that other person are in one a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 07:13 AM |
| 13 | Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life?The general story goes like this: Billy Baiter Male is passed over during his youth for the alfalfa males Sally Stacy lusts after. When Sally Stacy is older and realizes she'll never lock down an alfalfa male, she settles for Billy Baiter. Billy Baiter never gets the hawt sex the alfalfa guys got, nor does he get it with the same frequency. Sally Stacy is generally condescending and naggy toward him --- because she lacks the strong sexual attraction for him. tl;dr it's a raw deal for Billy Baite… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:39 AM |
| 2 | Women more likely to prefer masculine man when they are fertileSo they found a significant effect on 3 out of 4 indices of facial masculinity. Apparently prominent cheekbones aren't masculine (news to me). Of course, without effect sizes, who cares? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/23 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Women shame men for having preferences that they (women) can easily meet.Idk more or less the stereotypical ideal of a woman | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Women shame men for having preferences that they (women) can easily meet.I have to say, I hear about this a lot, and on the internet it seems to happen, but in real life I haven't seen this play out. Women automatically assume have a ton of preferences, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 07:32 PM |
| 7 | What’s the meanest/rudest way someone had rejected you?I've been rejected too many times to remember which one was the worst. By and large women have been kind when they've rejected me. I don't think I've ever been rejected for my race --- at least not explicitly, which is surprising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 07:28 PM |
| 5 | Value on the dating market is inherited from family and then enhanced by personal achievements and development. Value is not determined by the gender you are born with (or transition to).None of the genders are the prize inside a relationship This is true. A lot of what's wrong with dating can be summed up with "prize-making" behaviors, i.e. behaviors that devalue others to make them "chase." Value on the dating market is inherited from family In the sense that SES and looks are inherited from family, yes. Their children are the prize This leaves out people who cannot or choose not to have children, so it's incomplete. I also do also acknowledge that in many happy cases, these t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 07:26 PM |
| 2 | Men have difficulties and inequalities that deserve recognition, but I struggle to take them seriously when it's often used to undermine issues women faceMost of the time when men discuss their issues, women bring up their issues. It's a way to derail the conversation away from men's issues. Oft times what people consider to be a negation of the issues women face is more an attempt to keep the conversation from being hijacked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 07:22 PM |
| 1 | Is dating women who are taller/fitter/more sucessful/more ambitious emasculating?No. I've dated women much taller than me. Masculine energy is all it takes to not be emasculated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:23 AM |
| 1 | How do men without accomplishments get confidence?You can't have confidence to start with. All greatness begins with arrogance. Believing you can do whatever it is you're trying to do in the absence of any prior evidence is required first. After you finally do the thing, then you can start to build confidence. Arrogance isn't ideal, but it's far better than timidity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:22 AM |
| 1 | Issues in the West are just as much a social issue as they are a dating one.Who knew? It's a numbers game. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Do people think most couples aren’t similar in attractiveness?I live in one of the most superficial cities on the planet --- Vegas. And I still see mostly evenly matched couples, or the guy in the relationship is worse looking. Vast vast majority. Women are very insecure. I don't care what anyone says. If you're a GL guy or perceived to be so by her, she thinks you have a ton of options, won't really care about her, and won't be faithful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Friendship dynamic between men and women- I've never had a woman friend that was not initially attracted to me. I've tried making friends with those women as well, but it just seems if they don't find me attractive they lose interest very quickly in even keeping a conversation up with me. Bingo. Ultimately, it comes down to this. When a woman is your friend and truly treats you well, it's likely because she is attracted to you. Whether she will act on this attraction is irrelevant. When you're a woman's friend and she's not attracted … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/23 02:39 AM |
| 12 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Pretty much every other study on this has found the opposite, that SHR/measures of body strength exert an outsize effect. I'm thinking the reason why there's such a large effect here is because they showed the man next to a woman that did not vary in height: https://media.springernature.com/m312/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs10508-022-02416-2/MediaObjects/10508_2022_2416_Fig2_HTML.png?as=webp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.We agree that for sure your logic would never be mistaken for logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Yes and the logic you're using is faulty. I cannot break this down any further. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:18 AM |
| 3 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.My obvious point is that a short man is better off spending his limited time and energy improving himself in ways outside of the gym. Yes, and the logic you used was poor. Going to the gym, getting ripped, etc. have an impact on how one's face looks as well. All women care about physique or are affected by a good physique. Unless they're asexual. Just like they all care about your face. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:13 AM |
| 4 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Logic fail. That someone would prefer quality x to be "better" doesn't mean that having more of quality x won't improve someone's results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 01:02 AM |
| 3 | CMV: At this point, this sub is the red pill lightIt's unfair that most men won't be loved if they don't love themselves a little bit first. This saying is completely untrue and people need to stop saying it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/23 12:56 AM |
| 0 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Ah, so you don't. I figured as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 07:35 PM |
| 3 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Every clamoring Becky doesn’t get a 6’2 chad. They settle within their league… eventually lol That's good speculation. Have anything to back it up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 07:20 PM |
| 1 | RP men what is your age and what is the age range of women you’d be willing to *seriously* date?Not RP but my views are just as unpopular so I'll answer anyway 36 25-33 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:50 PM |
| 2 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.Why do men these days make everything they do… FOR WOMEN??? Probably something stupid like biology, I'm sure. And it’s always those same men that make everything they do for women… GET NONE!!! Patently false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:38 PM |
| 6 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.No, muscles on short men provided a significant "masculinity" boost and a very slight boost to attractiveness. The muscle boost for all men though wasn't that much, with regard to attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.I thought this was going to be an interesting study, namely because it contradicts a few other recent studies on the matter. But just looking at the figures from the study that I've referenced in other comments, it's not really that interesting. They found a large main effect of height on attraction (the figures reveal that muscles don't have that much of an impact --- for anyone). It's likely because they showed the figures next to a 'female' figure, who was the same height for each of the depi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3546926/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:30 PM |
| 3 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.This study really doesn't say much, actually if you look at the figures from the study. There's a slight attractiveness boost for muscles at best even for tall guys. There are other studies that have parsed out the variance for height and SHR contributing to overall attractiveness that have come to different conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:25 PM |
| 53 | Study finds that being muscular does not increase attractiveness for short men.https://media.springernature.com/m312/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1007%2Fs10508-022-02416-2/MediaObjects/10508_2022_2416_Fig3_HTML.png?as=webp There's the image with the different ratings. The attractiveness boost provided by the muscles in every case is pretty small. But the masculinity boost for each height is about the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 06:22 PM |
| 3 | This sub is suffering from ill-informed posts and commentsWildly different, as in both have contradictory core values. Both focus on short-term mating mostly, and both seek to explain how women choose mates in these contexts. TRP: alfalfa status, behavior , 'game' controls these outcomes. The Black Pill: Looks control these outcomes. TRP: through self-improvement, any man can attain alfalfa status The Black Pill: Space at the top is limited and it is unlikely one who is below average will ever be able to improve enough to have short-term mating success… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 04:17 PM |
| 3 | This sub is suffering from ill-informed posts and commentsSource: The Red Pill and the Black Pill. Literally the names of the ideologies tell you which group follows which. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 04:13 PM |
| 6 | This sub is suffering from ill-informed posts and commentsWhile I tend to agree broadly, I'm going to say that there's always truth in the "misinformation." First, it really isn't anyone's job to cite a specific source to buttress their critique of an ideology, mainly because ideologies themselves consist of differing niches. Someone doing a takedown of feminism could simply cherry-pick a source that fails to represent the overarching tendencies of current feminism and then argue against that. Second, the reaction you're seeing is the reaction to the i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Women ghost after sex just as often as menYes, this is true. However, I'd say that after sex women still do it less often than men, just far more than is commonly believed. Personally, I'm always surprised at how similar female behavior in these situations is to male behavior that is complained about: overexaggerated feigned liking, promises of some kind of relationship, whatever, unprompted --- you know, lying. This is what I'm talking about regarding being used for sex. Most men haven't really experienced it to understand it. It's not… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 03:59 PM |
| 4 | Female Centric Dating Advice is so wrong it hurtsPre-selection isn't something that turns men on. The fact that you have a vagina awares most men of the fact that many more men want to fuck you and that one probably is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 08:32 AM |
| 3 | Female Centric Dating Advice is so wrong it hurtsIt works better on men because men usually tend to be attracted to the women who use it. And no, only men with (1) no options or (2) no self-respect stick around rather than walking away at the first whiff of those games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Female Centric Dating Advice is so wrong it hurtsnone of that stuff works FYP TRP does. not. work. for its stated purpose: making men more successful with short-term mating. "stuff like dread game to game preselection, not overvalidating them so they feel as they have to work for your attention since you are the prize, playing hot and cold to create an air of mystery and intrigue, trying to emotionally effect them in negative ways to keep the relationship always exciting and dramatic because women crave drama etc" does not matter to a woman if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 08:29 AM |
| 3 | Men, delete your dating profiles IMMEDIATELYhttps://media.tenor.com/7DnJbwdVzkoAAAAM/kanye-laugh.gif I have to go return some videotapes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Not tonight honey…Stating facts isn't bragging. I was laughing at how ridiculous your proposition was. And now you reveal you know almost nothing about actual rates of transmission, especially with protected sex. Next you infer a lot from someone putting a word in quotation marks. Like point blank: you don't know shit about me, you're just butthurt because you know I'm right and that women sleep with guys they don't like a fair amount. You inferred a lot from someone laughing at you and pointing to factual scenar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 11:35 PM |
| 1 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Me banging hot women is, tho. File In: nonsense that ignores basic human nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Not tonight honey…You didn't ask any questions you just attacked my character and made a bunch of assumptions. No one owes that a response. Are you now saying you did not say women have aex with men they like? I've been in relationships where me and her couldn't stand one another but we fucked like bunnies. Like there's just countless counterexamples to such a ridiculous proposition. Sex is mutual sexual attraction. That's it. That's all. Accept no substitutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 10:21 PM |
| 1 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Yeah because paying a hot woman to bang you is the same as banging a hot woman who wants to fuck you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 10:12 PM |
| 3 | Not tonight honey…Here's what you said: women don't have sex with men they don't like. I provided personal counter examples. You responded with irrelevant psychobabble. Women do have sex with men they don't like, as long as they are sexually attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 09:58 PM |
| 4 | Being confident, but unattractive, will get a man called creepyI feel that if people think you're attractive they'll tolerate a higher degree of sexually aggressive behavior. They'll politely redirect it or just sort of treat as a funny joke. I certainly have done my share of drunken text messaging and inappropriate remark making only for it to be no big deal. Whereas I've seen other people been completely character assassinated over roughly the same behavior. That isn't to say you're or anyone is invulnerable. Plenty of very attractive guys I've known have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:11 PM |
| 3 | Not tonight honey…LOL FUCKING ELL O ELL my gf after finding out I cheated on her 30+ times hated my guts: she still kept sleeping with me for a good while. Have numerous other examples of women who did NOT like me or my "sexist" attitude who nevertheless bedded down with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:06 PM |
| 1 | Not tonight honey…This is why no matter what a man must always cultivate his options. It's a very hard issue but as you get experience and success with women, the more and more you realize that you're going to be subject to arbitrary whim unless you cultivate other options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:05 PM |
| 4 | Redpilled men come from a similar background with a lack of real challenges or adversity, and that's why they have a hard time dating.These men haven't learned to overcome adversity in a healthy manner. Based on your personal survey consisting of: yourself. Kids being taught to accept mediocrity as success don't know how to succeed. Literally has nothing to do with anything and is pulled out of your ass. You have no clue what the upbringing of these people was like. if they can't get the girl, they blame everyone else That's not TRP. It seems like you're talking about incels. definitely not their shitty attitude or lack of und… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 06:12 PM |
| 3 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Yes, you keep trying to negate the obvious. The taxes were voted on by the society specifically to help random people with many and various personal problems, which means the society you live in, simply does not believe that "no one owes anyone anything." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 09:47 AM |
| 6 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Yeah, outside of the thing that completely counters your point, you may have a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 09:29 AM |
| 9 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.You go on and on with the same statement about how taxes pay health care, welfare, disability, retirement Probably because you've failed to provide any good response to it. OP’s complaints about men facing criticism for wanting casual sex is not atone to human suffering. It's true, to find the suffering here takes the uncommon ability of common sense. You know, perhaps an unfair dynamic, perhaps being subjected to arbitrary rules that truly don't matter in the first place and serve (seemingly) t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem?It really doesn't matter, man. If 47% were friends, you and I both know that the scenario you described wouldn't fit that bill. And we know that some significant percentage of "acquaintances" likely don't either, which would easily tip the scales over 50%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:55 AM |
| 1 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.I never said the kind of masculinity women like is healthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:40 AM |
| 4 | Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem?You can disagree all you like, it's a fact. Event-level analyses revealed that hookups were more likely to involve friends (47%) or acquaintances (23%) rather than strangers (14%) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2932467/ While the majority of mine are from OLD, then bars and clubs, that doesn't mean my or your lived experience constitutes the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 08:09 AM |
| 14 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.But a stranger off the street personally owes you nothing. Except his money if you're poor, disabled, retirement age, etc. Like, what don't you get? We as a society have decided that many of a particular individual's "personal problems" are indeed everyone's responsibility. Point blank. It’s up to you to take action and use resources available to you- whether it be mental health assistance or what have you. Resources that in many cases don't exist, which is why most of the welfare programs do. O… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 07:20 AM |
| 8 | Redpilled men come from a similar background with a lack of real challenges or adversity, and that's why they have a hard time dating.I think TRP is stupid, but unfortunately, OP is guilty of blaming people without considering --- even hypothetically --- circumstances that are beyond an individual's control. The thing I believe they all have in common though is the lack of facing challenges or adversity in their youth Dude, go read a forum of these guys, you'll find all sorts of stories of abuse and bullying. Like, what an asinine assumption. They don't go to Harvard or MIT https://tenor.com/biz7n.gif Is this really a point of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 06:42 AM |
| 16 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Literally, living in a welfare state where the government and people have decided that those with means owe those without means money means that yes, we have decided in many cases that everyone else should help solve an individual's problems. In this case, poverty or emergency medical care or retirement income, or disability -- the list is pretty long. You can rattle off ridiculous examples all you like, you're just trivializing human suffering by stating people are right to ignore it. You don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 06:33 AM |
| 23 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Yeah the whole "no one owes anyone anything" stuff is silly. Sorry. We live in a society of rules, norms, and obligations. "No one owes anyone anything" is anarchy, which the entire world has decided against. We live in a welfare state, so obviously this society has decided en masse that yes, we collectively owe something to some people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 05:21 AM |
| 4 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Property rights came after enforced monogamy. Yeah, so you don't know history at all. Read up some then come talk to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:54 AM |
| 2 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.Its because the vast majority of women reproduced but only a minority of men did. Indeed, because of artificial constructs like property rights and all the social norms that arose due to them...not because of "evolution" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:46 AM |
| 1 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.only one third of our ancestral DNA comes from men Which is likely the result of civilization and agriculture rather than the natural state of humanity, "lol." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:30 AM |
| 12 | Are the gender dynamics/dating nowadays as bad as this sub makes it seem?A lot of men want casual sex without a lot of effort. Most casual sex takes place when people know one another for a good bit, as acquaintances or friends. To get casual sex with any regularity, a man must be perceived by any particular woman as exemplary in whatever regard turns her on (usually looks). All other men have to play the "get to know me" game, which may or may not end with sex and a relationship. Because it's all a numbers game anyway, there are sort of two groups of men. Ones who c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:27 AM |
| 4 | I think there is unfair criticism towards unsuccessful daters.in regards to the gene pool Baseless nonsense, especially as applied to humanity. In the animal kingdom, most of the males of a species never pass on their genes or have a mate Spot the is-ought fallacy. Which ensures that the best genes become more dominant in the future. Sexual selection actually fails to offer any such guarantee. There are multiple instances of zero natural selection advantage genes being selected for... ...and that's before we get around to asking 'who can define what best i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 02:20 AM |
| 9 | Identifying as “Involuntary” anything means you have a victim mentalityHappiness is the result of several factors and many of them are external. Sorry to break the news. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 12:18 AM |
| 11 | Identifying as “Involuntary” anything means you have a victim mentalityBuddy this isn't an episode of Star Trek with Captain Kirk "Not believing in no-win scenarios," this is real life...where there are no-win scenarios. Furthermore, there are no-win scenarios that are beyond the fault of the individual. Do you not understand that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 11:53 PM |
| 12 | Identifying as “Involuntary” anything means you have a victim mentalityIdentifying as an an involuntary sex participant --- you know, rape --- must be having a victim mentality too. Like, think before you write. but most healthy people acknowledge this and then figure out what can be done to change their circumstances and how they can improve them. And when not much can be done, then they indeed are a victim of circumstance. or self identification you have already given up and accepted your circumstances Buddy, some circumstances must be accepted. There are limits.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 11:29 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?The first one is an abstract that describes a section in a textbook I'm assuming about research regarding attachment. The second and third concern relationship satisfaction once the relationship is formed. Please cite a source indicating that women pick their sexual partners based mostly on something other than physical attractiveness --- which is your claim. My turn: Results suggest a large sex difference in trait perception; when women rated men, they agreed in their perception more often than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 11:23 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Did you cite a specific study? Oh yeah. You didn't. Why don't you go first, because you're such a proponent of the burden of proof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:52 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I did explain: in studies where they examine what women do not what they say the result is that the preference is equivalent. Reading comprehension is some basic shit, I agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:49 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?If several studies that examine the issue all come to the same general conclusion, it's on you to point out why they're all flawed. It's not a fallacy to point to an area that more closely resembles real life than simply asking people what they want in a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:28 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I'd argue that exceptions really don't make the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:17 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Precondition just means it has to happen if a relationship is to exist not that it is sufficient for one to exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:10 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?You keep conflating precondition with main thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:09 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Yes because sex is the precondition to a relationship existing. If you don't think that's true, fair enough. If we really "clicked" we'd be having sex lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 10:02 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Correctumundo. Which I believe is consistent with sex being a necessary component of a long term relationship. It doesn't mean that's all I want or it's all I'm after. It's not about values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:59 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?See you said it again, sex must be the most important thing if I want it after x amount of time. I don't think it showed much beyond you weren't sufficiently sexually attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?You said that all they really wanted was sex and they thought it was the most important. That's sort of making them out to not have intentions that they may well have... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:49 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Consider that that may be a narrative you've constructed that unreasonably vilifies them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:44 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Consider that you're oversimplifying their reaction. Maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:41 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Most studies that study what women do rather than what they say seem to suggest that women value physical attraction as much as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:40 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Sex must happen for a long term relationship to happen. It's not unreasonable to assume that if it hasn't happened by x time, which differs from man to man, it isn't going to happen and cut losses. And we can agree to disagree. A woman who is sexually attracted to you just won't wait particularly long to have sex with you in my experience. Why do you think they got upset? It's a cop out answer to say oh they just wanted sex. Try to understand their point if view rather than vilify them with that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:39 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Then you're just widening the window from instant to 30 minutes/a few hours. That's fine. I'd say in those situations the woman knew nearly instantly and just waited for the man to make the necessary moves. Regardless, I'm fine with widening the window from instant to "pretty fast." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:30 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I see so you think women sleep with men fast they aren't sexually attracted to. That's an interesting viewpoint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 09:20 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Sex is a precondition, rather than the main focus for a long-term partner. You would agree that sexual attraction is necessary for any long-term relationship, I'm sure. For me, sex within a certain amount of time and attention invested is a necessary precondition for a long-term partner. And yes, sex must be an impending guarantee, because otherwise I'm unsure how you could expect to have a long-term relationship with someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:49 PM |
| 12 | How many men on this sub would benefit a lot, from simply being more relaxed around the women you're attracted to?Not really. Personality in the short-term is extremely overrated. If you're talking about more a long-term social circle thing, then yes, you're right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:46 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?if you're only kind to the people that you want to have sex I never said that. I said I choose to spend time with those women. that makes you not so much a good person but an opportunist. Wanting to have sex with someone isn't a crime. Spending time only with people where that desire is mutual isn't opportunistic behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:44 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Because they care about more than sex for a possible long term partner. Assumption: a man who would like to have sex within a certain amount of time must only care about sex. Not good logic. because men didn’t want to wait And therefore, according to your assumption, most men must only care about sex. Not good logic. But it works. For you. I already gave you kudos for doing what works for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I'm kind to whoever I spend time with. With regard to women, I prioritize and allocate my time to the ones who want to have sex with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:37 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?In my opinion, a better use of their time would be spent finding a woman who knows pretty fast that they're the guy and has sex with him. Even if I'm sleeping with other women, why invest time in one who isn't going to sleep with me in 1, 3, 5 or however many dates I decide is worth investing before pulling out my stock in whoever she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:33 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I guess to you my lived experiences are false. All right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:28 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?You seem like one of those people who takes someone who thinks differently than you to mean there must be something wrong with that person. It's really childish but you aren't fooling anyone. I'm just letting you know I can see right through you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:24 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I mean don't waste time auditioning for someone's sexual attraction when there are plenty of women who will know pretty fast that you're their guy. And if I'm not in a relationship, no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:23 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Leave the auditioning to actors, I say. But it's your right to do what you do. Those were my thoughts on it, actually. I wouldn't do it, but I'm fine with you doing it if it works for you. You said the only way to win was to not play? Lol that's my opinion for me, and if a fellow man were to ask me my advice, that's what I would tell him. But that's a view from the other side. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:20 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?That's consistent with what I'm saying. It's not about lacking any sexual attraction it's about lacking enough sexual attraction to have sex. I’ve never just had to jump someone’s bones Consider that you may just not have met the right person. I fully understand it’s me And you have to do what works for you. Kudos. But consider also that you may be an exception, and no one should plan a dating strategy around exceptions. Do you consider what they are doing auditioning too? Yes. It doesn't matter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:15 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Yeah I've heard this a million times and I've seen it work exactly like a man's sexual attraction too many times for me to think it's true. A woman's sexual attraction can be a switch or a dimmer switch. Trust me, women can feel instant or near instant attraction for a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:10 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I'd still have the same response; you can be sexually attracted enough to give a blowjob and not sexually attracted enough to have sex. And it's possible that for you sexual attraction just takes time because of your own situation or internal workings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:07 PM |
| 3 | What kind of sexual history do you consider top percentile for a man? What do you consider average?top men who always do well with women and sleep with scores of them Doesn't exist. Does number count determine this? Partially. I'd say top 20% is in your neighborhood of 30. However I deal with the same BS they do on dating apps, the same hardships finding a good long term partner, and don't always pull attention from the women I really want. Yes, more or less all or most men will deal with similar BS. So I'm curious what a lot of folks here would consider average and consider top tier with reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 08:03 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?There's absolutely no issue. I just think in your case it's a case of you needing to take time to be sufficiently sexually attracted to sleep with someone. Someone being attractive doesn't mean you're sexually attracted enough to sleep with them. I wouldn't take something like that personally. I'd process it as she's not sexually attracted to me, oh well and move on. I've explained what my issue with the whole thing would be. But I support you doing what works for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:57 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I cannot enjoy sex with someone I don’t have a bond with. Consider the possibility that this "bond" you speak of after not knowing someone for that long is just sexual attraction. I will literally not be able to physically enjoy it. Because you aren't sexually attracted to them yet. It's actually quite simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:47 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Most of the time, women don’t want attention from you at all. Because they aren't sexually attracted to you to begin with. Then, you start vibing, Which happens if they find you sexually attractive. Then, they’ll want sex. Because they are sexually attracted to you. giving you the chance Oh goodness me, given a chance, how gracious of you all. File In: lol. to form enough attraction that they eventually want sex. If it isn't there quick from the jump, it likely isn't going to be there in most ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:41 PM |
| 6 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Im so glad you understand me better than I understand myself. People are often biased in their viewpoints regarding themselves. Hence the need for third party neutral observers in so many areas of life. But you're probably right.... looks Yeah, I probably am. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:38 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I'm not laser focused on how to get sex with anybody. I'm focused on whether or not the particular individual actually wants sex with me versus just attention from me. GREAT sex is not transactional. It’s something two people who have great chemistry do WITH each other. Two people who find one another attractive will give sex to one another attractiveness -> sex. I'm sorry if you somehow believe two people who find each other attractive and have sex somehow won't have great sex. I definitely dis… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:35 PM |
| 1 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?What you're doing is holding an audition process for multiple men where they're competing for the spot of which tickles your fancy enough to sleep with. In my opinion, women know pretty fast if they want to sleep with a man --- for the most part. As far as what you're describing, that's a game where the only way to win is just not to play. Leave the auditioning to actors, I say. But it's your right to do what you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:33 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?And a woman can ruin hers by leading a man on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:28 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?You say it so much because it's an obfuscation that is said a lot. It makes 0 sense in terms of a reaction to anyone complaining about being rejected. Point blank it's a transaction: attractiveness for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:26 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Having sexual attraction to a person doesn't mean that person has to or will have sex with the person that is attracted to them. Literally sexually attraction is the desire to have sex with someone. There's a certain threshold of it that has to exist before it is acted on. So really, the issue is that it hasn't or doesn't meet or exceed that threshold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:24 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?This is true. And men need to learn how much time they are willing to invest in women. For ex, for me, depending on the situation and woman, it's 1 to 3 meetings. I don't care how attracted to me she is, how we click, or whatever, if it's not happening after 3 meetings, it may as well never happen as far as I'm concerned and I move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:22 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I enjoy this thought process. It couldn't be that someone can be nice and also have a perfectly normal human reaction to rejection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:20 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?I agree. It pays to be kind --- especially to yourself. Hence, only bestowing kindness on those who are kind back to us, in the ways we would like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:18 PM |
| 5 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?Im stuck on one asshole and he treats me like shit and has nothing to do with looks Im just in love with how he makes me feel when we are together Those feelings likely are caused by looks. /solved | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:17 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?This is somewhat correct (unfortunately). When I'm shredded, it's hard for me to do any wrong with the women who come into my life, even when I'm a total prick. However, If a woman is intimidated by you, she will look for any reason to auto-disqualify herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:16 PM |
| 3 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?then definitely as a good friend. Something a man who is attracted to a woman doesn't want. And even then physical attraction does not matter a whole lot Except for when a man is attracted to a woman and wants to have sex with her, i.e. getting results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:15 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?This is the weirdest pretzel logic. First, looks are what count in the beginning --- i.e. what gets a man laid. Second, if a man treats a woman like shit and she keeps going back, it very likely does have to do with something superficial the woman values highly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:13 PM |
| 2 | "nice guys think basic social decencies are currencies for sex" but isn't it the reality when the women is into the guy?The whole "women don't dispense sex tokens for kindness," is true. They dispense sex tokens for attractiveness. So if a man finds that a woman is failing to dispense sex tokens, he should take the hint that she doesn't find him attractive and spend his time elsewhere. As for personality adding to attractiveness. In the short term, absolutely not. In the long-term, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:10 PM |
| 3 | There’s a rise in loneliness among men today, why?I believe that with experience and seeing how dynamics truly work, many people would be mostly alone by choice. So much social interaction simply isn't real. If people separated the wheat from the chaff in their social dealings, they'd be surprised at how few of them mean anything substantive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:07 PM |
| 2 | There’s a rise in loneliness among men today, why?I'm unsure how you believe men sinking time and energy into women they are attracted to, where the feeling isn't mutual, is a "relationship worth building." Why? The man simply does not gain anything affirming. Instead, he lingers in a state where he is constantly confirmed as unattractive. That simply isn't what men truly want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Besides sex, do you even like women?I'm not red pill, but I think women are great. However I'm not particularly interested in getting to know a woman if I'm attracted to her and she isn't attracted to me. That's not viewing women as just sex objects (a common refrain), that's just valuing my time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 07:00 PM |
| 1 | What kind of sexual history do you consider top percentile for a man? What do you consider average?That first thing you said is probably the most insightful thing I've seen on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/23 04:38 AM |
| 4 | A woman’s autonomy and freedom over who she lets put their sex organ inside her sex organ trumps men’s feelings and mental well being EVERY SINGLE TIMEGod this is such entitled strawmanning bullshit. A man complaining about a dry spell, whether it's a week long one or a lifelong one, has absolutely nothing to do with them desiring some Handsmaids Tale dystopia where women are forced to copulate with men. Stop trying to conflate the two, stop assuming they're necessarily related, and stop expecting people to buy logic 101-fail bullshit. So either you're arguing against a position that no one or a marginal percent of people hold (thinking women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Men being sexually lucky later in life could make them resentful or too skeptical for loveIt really doesn't matter. Most men will never get enough experience with women to find out a lot of truths. The men who do will yes, deal with women in a certain way, and that certain way will come off as "sexist" or "misogynist" at times, when it's really simple: they're ensuring they don't waste their time. That's the real issue. If a man isn't careful, women will waste his time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Not feeling desired is what makes most men (including me) have problems with women.Buddy, "not feeling desired" is something you feel within. You think that if you got random compliments or whatever about your looks, you'd think you were hot shit. For awhile....until you realize the correlation between those random compliments and someone actually wanting to do anything with you is far from perfect. Do you know how many women have confessed feelings, extremely complimented my looks/interests/whatever, only for me to quickly ferret out that they essentially just wanted my atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 10:12 PM |
| 4 | I Interviewed Rollo TomassiIt always puzzled me, because that's hardly advice, hardly helpful and not even actionable. That's ridiculous. There are a billion ways someone can improve their appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 09:56 PM |
| 1 | "Just work on yourself, bro" is a polite way of gaslighting menIts a faulty commentary because it assumes fault. For example, if a man just isn't that great to look at....that's his problem, but he's not doing anything wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 03:13 PM |
| – | I'm not lying, you just assume the worstHence my original point about women not lying, exactly, but coming off disingenuous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 03:04 PM |
| – | I'm not lying, you just assume the worstPeople don't base their standards on what they are in reality. Society feeds them a list of what they should want and for the most part people obsess over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 03:03 PM |
| – | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingIndeed when the view takes a complicated issue and downsamples it to a story of heroes (females) and villains (entitled males), replete with John Galt sadism of the "no one cares" human emotion invalidating variety, it's hard to change it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 03:02 PM |
| – | I'm not lying, you just assume the worstI don't think women are that dishonest. What I do think is that women are much more in tune with subjective reality than objective reality. For ex a woman stating she loves her short/fat/not hot bf and thinks he's sexy is not a lie. She's being truthful. However, her using that as proof that money height and looks don't have an effect on her is where the inaccuracy begins. If you removed the insecurity present in many women, then placed those attributes in close proximity...shed definitely he te… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Dating now.I've found them several times, ace. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:33 AM |
| 1 | Dating now.Yeah, because relationship hoppers are "good partners." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | Dating now.Yeah I always screen this shit hard. If their last relationship was less than 6 months ago I excuse myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 06:51 AM |
| 7 | Dating now.That "I'm so scared and my past" stuff is just bullshit. Translation: you don't excite me the way so and so did. There's a ton of BS in the dating scene mid 20s to early 30s. Men do all sorts of dumb shit but a big thing women do is use past relationships as a smokescreen and shield in all sorts of ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/23 06:45 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men use money to control womenlol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 05:48 PM |
| -1 | Guys are not unattractive because they're insecure, they are insecure because they're unattractive. I feel like this is a common misconception.ITT: OP learns that sometimes people does the old switcharoo with personality and looks! News at 11. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/23 05:28 PM |
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