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Would like to add still do push and pull. Don't stop flirting and teasing her even when you get into the relationship. It's how you made that spark between you two so why stop just because you both agreed to only see each other and nobody else?
/r/seduction10/01/14 04:48 PM
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Thanks for the tips. Having spoken to people from her social circle I can confirm that this girl loves the attention and validation and she does have a boyfriend which she keeps very quiet about. They haven't even got a picture with each other and people suspect him to be a rebound. I'm pretty much gonna just flirt with her for practice and whenever I go out with her clubbing I'll use her for pre selection!
/r/seduction09/01/14 06:42 PM
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Try street approaching and making new friends. You're bound to make a deeper connection since you're actually able to talk to the girl on the street.
/r/seduction04/01/14 03:59 AM
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Yeah I understand that, it just feels as if the more rejections I get, the more it saps away my positivity and confidence till I have nothing and I just end up thinking "another approach, hope I don't get blown out again..." Really need to learnt not to get into this mindset and see the funnier side of rejection.
/r/seduction15/12/13 05:44 PM
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The whole concept of rejection is logical and fine to me. Not everyone is going to connect with you, I think it was the overall picture which started getting me down how I didn't have one successful interaction during that day. Heck the first rejection I was laughing to myself because the girl was like "oh noooo I've gotta go" and was saying "what if it was meant to be!?!!?" but after a few more rejections, my state started getting worse and worse. It seems with more rejections, my morale gets l…
/r/seduction15/12/13 05:43 PM
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Well our main rule is not to give a fuck about what other people think. If they think it's weird or creepy that we do these sort of things then you know straight away they're the type of people who can't take action in their lives and do something to improve themselves. Whether it's going to the gym to lose weight and tone up, talking to girls or even setting yourself a goal to meet it all applies. People generally forget about inner game and focus on outer game. It's not also called self-improv…
/r/seduction10/12/13 02:45 PM
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"Are you single". If she's single and interested she'll usually tell you she is. If she isn't or is but not interested then she will tell you she isn't. And if she isn't but lies, why would you want to be with her anyway? Edit: I guess I should have mentioned this but this was far too much common sense for me to even mention. You ask "are you single" after you talk to her a bit and realise she's enjoying the interaction.
/r/seduction10/12/13 02:42 PM
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Ahhh up talk. I'm always very conscious on up talk now since I started watching Project Go and listening to their podcasts. I always try to do down talk but whenever I'm nervous I always revert to a little up talk without even realising.
/r/seduction10/12/13 02:41 PM
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Nice one!!! Most girls like fun guy's are willing to do silly things in order to make them stand out from the crowd. As long as you project a fun vibe instead of a needy vibe then it won't seem "rapey". Just gotta remember that you're making their day by approaching them and letting them know you're interested. Girls generally love the attention from guys because it's nice to know that you're wanted by other people.
/r/seduction09/12/13 03:51 PM
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I know but I just can't bring myself to do it. I really can't hahaha! I doubt I'll have much in common with girls that age. The fact that she's 3 years older than my little sister doesn't help it!
/r/seduction07/12/13 09:41 PM
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It's cheesey humour, you're not being serious at all. Who gives a fuck if it's cheesey! If you're caring what people think of your whole inner game isn't in the right mindset. It's so ridiculously and cheesey that it's obvious its a joke, and it's somewhat endearing if you put her in the us mentality. Think of it as a bubble you're both in.
/r/seduction07/12/13 04:59 PM
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Statements - guess what she does, her age. E.g. "you study art". It doesn't matter if you get it wrong, it's more engaging and makes it a lot more personal. Try telling her to guess what you do for a living as well. If she's not down to even humor you with a guess she's probably not interested. Us mentality - make up some sort of an over exaggerate role play which sounds so ridiculous it's obvious it won't happen. If she says that she's into traveling be like "me and you are going to xx right no…
/r/seduction07/12/13 04:14 AM
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My first time wasn't that enjoyable. I was a bit overwhelmed by the whole experience and I was too scared to cum in her (heck I didn't even cum). After a few more times it became very enjoyable. Nerves can get the best of you during the first time.
/r/seduction27/11/13 12:44 AM
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I was about to say the same thing when I first saw this post but I got interrupted. Dailymail is a joke, I would never take any of their articles seriously. I tend to go there just to laugh at how ridiculous it is.
/r/seduction27/11/13 12:12 AM
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Make sure it's known that you're bored of her talking about herself all the time. Simple Pickup do a funny trick where they pretend they're falling asleep while the girl is blabbering on. If you're not leading the conversation in some way you're not displaying dominance and more than likely end up being friendzoned because you're there to hear her out all the time. It takes two to tango!
/r/seduction25/11/13 08:36 PM
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Don't talk on the dancefloor, you need to lead the interaction by being physically dominant. Hold your hand out and see if she will respond by grabbing it. Spin her, pull her in for a bit, dance. Push her off and then after pull her in again but this time closer. There is a lot of push pull involved in dancefloor game
/r/seduction25/11/13 01:58 PM
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That's penis envy to you, good sir.
/r/seduction24/11/13 08:01 PM
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Is that before or after you're accused of having sexual desire for your mother?
/r/seduction24/11/13 04:55 PM
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Great quote. However I'm not a big fan of his psychodynamic theories - they just seemed far too bizzare.
/r/seduction24/11/13 03:49 PM
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I was generally curious. I don't see the problem, it's not like its racist? I'm Chinese myself, it's why I asked!
/r/seduction21/11/13 07:16 PM
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Yeah I should have said it all at once instead of slowly bringing it out that I was interested. It didn't convey confidence and my mindset wasn't right towards the end. Instead of thinking I'm a boss for having the balls to approach I was thinking how awkward I felt and therefore turned into a self ful filling prophecy
/r/seduction21/11/13 05:48 PM
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Thanks man, really appreciate the support. Yeah I'm trying to get myself out there and make myself approach, even if I didn't get a number (which doesn't matter) at least I made her day by approaching her and letting her know she's cute. Most of my talk was done on auto pilot and I wasn't using stuff like statements, or us mentality but the more I do it the better I will react to the interaction
/r/seduction21/11/13 05:46 PM
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It's not the same guy who I made the wager with. Its some other dude. The wager is just banter with the birthday boy since we're both learning and trying to motivate each other to approach all
/r/seduction19/11/13 10:00 PM
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They succeeded as they believed it worked. When I did this, I felt unnatural, I didn't know how to follow up stuff after I used a routine. It was cheesy and it didn't really flow. I felt like a robot, I rather be myself, use cocky funny and show that I'm a fun guy who knows what he wants. It seemed as if mystery wasn't very good at telling something new when he kept saying he was with "good people". The amount of times he said "good people" seemed to me that he was struggling to express what he …
/r/seduction12/11/13 11:32 AM
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I cringed so hard watching that, felt like I was 16 all over again. I remember using the same canned material their using, and ugh just no! Matador was just relentless on stacking his routine it just seemed so fake, rushing routine after routine it just didn't seem natural. He literally threw the whole mystery method at them, false time constraint, over the shoulder, opinions, best friend bullshit. Though it's made me realise why canned material works at times, it just gives you something to tal…
/r/seduction12/11/13 03:41 AM
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Your life is only boring if you perceive it as boring. What are your hobbies? Talk about your hobbies like its the best thing since sliced bread. Don't even make shit up or lie to a girl, they've got a built in bullshit detector whenever someone is being fake (unless you're an actor).
/r/seduction12/11/13 02:40 AM
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I was you a month ago. Then I just realise you've gotta have fun. This isn't a dancing competition, girls honestly don't care how you dance. The only important rules of dance game is push and pull. Side stepping to a beat is a good way of keeping movement cause honestly you don't need to do anything flashy when you dance. Force the IOI, wave or smile at her. If you get a response back consider that as a openable set, hold your hand out (she will most likely grab it since she responded), spin her…
/r/seduction12/11/13 02:38 AM
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You may not think you used any "techniques" but if we were to dissect your FR you would actually find that you used a lot of so called "techniques" that some people need to be told in order to know how to do it. First of all the most important thing is that you were projecting your fun outgoing personality by just being yourself and having fun with your friends. You weren't out gunning for results, you just let things happen naturally. You didn't put her on a pedastal, you treated her normally a…
/r/seduction11/11/13 08:14 PM
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I do agree with your method too. But I believe that no everyone are able to jump straight in to the deep end. It's really down your personality. I personally have been very introverted since a very young age. To the point where I'd find it really awkward to even interact with someone to pay for items / food. So as you may understand, people like me who want to jump straight into the deep end find it very hard to because we feel as if that we're going to drown. Therefore rationalising our fears i…
/r/seduction10/11/13 08:44 PM
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Makes sense but a bit stupid that you're lying to the girl!
/r/seduction10/11/13 12:42 PM
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Gotta love Simple Pickup. They've helped me so much into getting back into pick up. Without these guys I'd still be using opinion openers and talking over my shoulder about 2 girls fighting over a short guy named Greg.
/r/seduction07/11/13 02:46 PM
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Thanks to the people who responded to this. If there are anymore of you who would like to go out and game just drop me a message or something. If we get enough people in the area I may just start a lair.
/r/seduction06/11/13 02:45 PM
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P.S. Yes I get the original reference ;)
/r/seduction06/11/13 02:44 PM
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Yeah, his friend Batman was here to film a scene from The Dark Knight Rises. Wut
/r/seduction06/11/13 02:44 PM
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Going out in London for a weekend is all good but honestly I want to do it consistently and get better!
/r/seduction05/11/13 09:06 PM
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Yeah I've got to keep it in the mindset that theres a limited amount of time for me to meet as many girls as possible while I'm still at university.
/r/seduction05/11/13 08:21 PM
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Got a message from someone who will be moving to the area next year. So I hope for more people to hit me up about it! Just need people who have the same goals instead of just getting ridiculously drunk all the time. It's like having a gym partner where you motivate each other to improve.
/r/seduction05/11/13 07:34 PM
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Lmao no, using an old school terminology. Basically looking for someone to come out with me with the intent to game girls.
/r/seduction05/11/13 03:37 PM
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I think I that feel awkward during the conversation in general, it gets dry and I run out of things to talk about. Gonna try a few new things such as us mentality and commenting on her personality
/r/seduction05/11/13 11:41 AM
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Indeed, I'm just ranting to muself. Difference with day game on campus is the chances of me seeing them again are higher. But I'm just making excuses for myself which isn't on. Just frustrating that I know all this stuff and I can't even pull the trigger!!!
/r/seduction04/11/13 11:20 PM
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This is so inspiring, I've been too caught up with theory and not doing day game enough due to AA. I'm gonna cut out theory and do 100 set myself
/r/seduction04/11/13 12:25 PM
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Hahaha I just imagine Vitaly's voice reading that because thats what he says when he did a colab with Simple Pickup
/r/seduction04/11/13 12:53 AM
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I agree completely. The problem is that beginners who go out to try and kill off AA have the mind set that they NEED to close after. Why don't you just start some small talk, get used to the fact that you're approaching random people and talk to them. You're not expected to get 100% closes, you need to build your conversational skills first. The pressure of closing gives you an even bigger excuse not to open due to the pressure of it all!
/r/seduction31/10/13 10:55 PM
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16 is legal in England but I don't want to date someone at that age. Due to the fact that is close to my sister's age and that majority (if not all) 16 year olds are not mature enough personality wise. Getting to the point where I'm leaning towards wanting a woman than a girl.
/r/seduction31/10/13 11:40 AM
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Thanks man :)
/r/seduction28/10/13 11:38 AM
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Remember this pain very well. Then when you see a cute girl you want to approach and you start doubting yourself, remember this feeling. Last night I didn't bother pursuing this chick and I totally regret it now, but oh well plenty of fish in the sea. I learnt that if I'm not gonna go 100% then I'm not gonna get the result I desired or at least say "well at least I tried".
/r/seduction28/10/13 01:30 AM
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See this is what I'm having an issue with. My issue is gauging when is the right time to ask for a number, I seem to rush the # close or I don't build enough attraction / comfort but they give me the number anyway and don't bother replying. Because I care so much about the flake it affected my game last night when I went out. I could have easily got a lot of numbers from girls who were potentially interested but I didn't bother because I thought "what's the point, she's only gonna flake" that so…
/r/seduction28/10/13 01:27 AM
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I'll have to warn you about this "Girl must be attractive to me" rule which I've fallen victim to. Usually when you restrict yourself like that you allow yourself to make an excuse not to approach a girl who you initially see. You may end up trying to find and excuse to rationalise why you shouldn't approach her such as her not being cute enough.
/r/seduction28/10/13 12:58 AM
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Smacking the ass was a joke initially but she didn't seem to mind. Normally if I was planning on gaming properly I wouldn't have even done it. But it follows up to what you said, have fun and thats what I was doing exactly! But I need to know how to physically escalate more, I tried picking up the girls a bit last night and most of them responded well with it with giggles and screams! Yeah when I first started this, I was very self-conscious on the dancefloor, I was analysing shit, thinking too …
/r/seduction27/10/13 08:13 PM
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I saw some of Sasha's infield stuff and I could not help but cringe. Just not my type of style of game tbh, at least for daygame!
/r/seduction26/10/13 12:37 AM
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Great example on day game for the people who like calmer, cool as fuck type of game. I get very confused with some people who try to be really high energy during day game and how some people claim that day game is the same as night game. Love how you're talking nice and slow and relaxed. Also love how you don't always talk to try and fill the awkward silence and make her ask you a question (I need to work on this, I always try and fill the silence).
/r/seduction25/10/13 05:34 PM
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Thanks for the advice brother! What you said was truly inspirational and I can't wait to improve myself further!
/r/seduction24/10/13 07:40 PM
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That is some solid advice man, thank you. Yeah I've been working on how I talk to girls, before I would use a lot of something called up-talk where the reflection of the end of my words would go in a higher tone. Now I'm using more down-talk which conveys a lot more confidence and kills of the neediness vibe. I need to have more self-confidence in myself definitely, I need to go out with the mind set that I am of high value and that girls want ME and not the other way round. I should try assume …
/r/seduction24/10/13 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the insight. Would you consider my note persistence? And if I do anything further then it will be perceived as neediness since she hasn't bothered adding me on Facebook yet?
/r/seduction24/10/13 05:51 PM
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Thanks man, its what I'm trying to do, I don't get oneitis (thank god). I get flaked a lot probably because I'm not building enough attraction. But it sucks because I want to at least get a few friends from it.
/r/seduction24/10/13 05:33 PM
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Definitely will go for a number next time! She hasn't added me yet, if she never does shall I back off since it's a clear sign that she's not interested? I didn't really do much for attraction building since we were both in a rush (problem with approaching uni girls on the walk they're always getting to lesson).
/r/seduction24/10/13 05:19 PM
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Wroclaw
/r/seduction23/10/13 07:46 PM
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I was in the same boat as you until I went out with my wings and saw them work their game. You have to lead a lot when you dance. Force an IOI by smiling or waving. If she responds positive, either hold your hand out for her to grab or even better, grab her hand and spin her. Dancing with a girl needs to involve a lot of push and pull. Learning some salsa is amazing, the spins are great and it teaches you to build sexual tension when dancing with them.
/r/seduction17/10/13 05:03 PM
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The girl probably has been hit on verbally but I highly doubt they were hit on physically. I've been studying some of RSD's stuff recently and their main mindset is to assume attraction. They will just walk up to the girl, put their arms round them and say "who are you" and move in for a kiss (fucking crazy I know). Their style is very alpha and dominant and they lead a lot. I guess you can try and force the IOI by waving to her and then grabbing her hand and leading her away from other guys and…
/r/seduction13/10/13 08:58 PM
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Don't quit seduction, keep improving yourself. Don't go to beta mode. It's what I did and I wasted 5 years of my life
/r/seduction13/10/13 12:10 PM
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You could try being unreactive if he's just standing there and staring at you. If he's trying to butt in the conversation just try and isolate the girl by leading her away or go in for a hug and pick her up and say you're gonna steal her for a bit (assuming she's into you though the RSD way you should always assume attraction). There are many things you can do depending on how the guy is reacting. Being friendly is gonna be good too if hes being cool with you.
/r/seduction13/10/13 12:08 PM
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Good point. If I reserve myself for only hot girls I want potentially for a LTR I'm gonna have a higher chance fucking it up with lack of experience. If I carry on like this then I will slow down my potential and also potentially screw it upwith a potential wife.
/r/seduction11/10/13 05:34 PM
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Yeah I feel you man. I'm being too much of a bitch atm and making excuses to why I shouldn't talk to everyone. I should really suck it up and just approach anyone just to say hi or something. The more I think of it the more I begin to think its really in my head. I tend to make last second excuses for myself and it isn't good at all. Thank you!
/r/seduction10/10/13 07:24 PM
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I need to try this but I end up either forgetting or I'm paranoid that I'm gonna get a raging boner at the worst time possible. Like in public! Need to definitely give this a go starting tonight.
/r/seduction10/10/13 06:06 PM
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Yeah I do have to agree, I am still not 100% over my AA yet. Sometimes I will come up with excuses like that, other times I will genuinely feel that she wasn't very cute. It's more than likely an approach issue whether it's my ego or just scared of rejection. It's weird cause I know I can approach, I just sometimes get scared even though I've done it many times.
/r/seduction10/10/13 06:04 PM
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Big fan your stuff Adam.
/r/seduction01/10/13 06:27 PM
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Just listened and I have to ask, do you watch simple pickup stuff? Because everything about that was very similar to what they do
/r/seduction01/10/13 12:37 PM
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I'm Chinese who's British, is that enough to trigger their interest hahaha! Thanks for the tips man, really appreciate it :)
/r/seduction29/09/13 07:37 PM
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Recently I've been feeling to same. My main opener recently has been "You're cute as fuck, I had to meet you. What is your name". And initially the girls laugh and enjoy it but I find it hard to follow up with that directness. Perhaps I need to improve with my conversational skills. So tonight I'm going for the more laid back approach and being like "Sup, having a good night?" in the smoking area and using a calmer, down talking method to see how my results fair. It's all about calibrating the g…
/r/seduction27/09/13 04:02 PM
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Thanks man. I think my problem is, I'm too busy look around to see whats going on rather than enjoying myself and I'm guessing people will see this. Another problem is that on the dancefloor I'm not willing to move to a different position where there are more concentrated number of girls compared to guys. On the dancefloor you see a lot of guys hovering round a group of girls and just swaying about. I kid you not when I first went onto the dancefloor as saw this one armed guy doing Michael Jacks…
/r/seduction26/09/13 04:38 PM
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Most of the time in a club I just see girls dancing with a big group of friends and not giving a fuck about anyone else. Will these girls notice you if you do the same and dance closer to you?
/r/seduction25/09/13 09:05 PM
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Me: Hello semi-stereotypical Chinese girl, it's changeh ;) Her: haha I am very far from stereotypical I think! Says the computer science nerd! Me: hahaha! Well you're out partying so I guess you're pretty cool.... ;) Her: you better know it! Me: you're gonna have to prove it. How about a dance? Day later I texted Me: Quick question Miss Hb, did your parents own a feather duster too? Hahaha! How are you feeling today? (Inside Asian joke on feather duster, Google it!)
/r/seduction24/09/13 11:33 AM
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Don't do the mistake I did when I got my first girlfriend through seduction. Keep working your game and don't be needy and turn beta again.
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:53 PM
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The thing with me, I'm not very traditional when it comes to being Chinese. I have very few Chinese friends (mostly white) so I fall out of the stereotype. It all depends on culture upbringing. It's just a lot of people here in western countries don't find that stereotype very attractive.
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:47 PM
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Nah I don't mate!
/r/seduction23/09/13 04:39 PM
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Thank you, I will try this because I am jumping very deep as I'm trying to open with intent to close. I shouldn't have that in my mind if I'm trying to kill off AA!
/r/seduction21/09/13 06:37 PM
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Thanks man. Yeah I feel sometimes I'm throwing myself in the deep end. Last night I went out for some solo night game. Didn't end well, ended up getting bored and going home. I think I need to start taking baby steps before I gain enough balls to approach with the intent to close. Freshers is starting at university next week and I guess I'm just trying to power-level myself through this and get good before freshers (freshers is a university event where for a week you just go out and party your a…
/r/seduction21/09/13 04:47 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I still have AA, so would this be putting me into the deep end if I'm not going out with anyone but myself?
/r/seduction20/09/13 04:51 PM
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Can anyone explain the theory behind RSD? Tyler seems to escalate super quick and it looks kind of creepy... But it works?
/r/seduction19/09/13 11:40 AM
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It's an on-going debate but does it really matter? If anything you're screening for decent girls who will like you for who you are. You're filtering out the bad ones. Everyone has a type and not everyone has to be into you if they don't want to.
/r/seduction17/09/13 12:37 PM
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Maybe you were having "one of those days". What you should have done is approach random girls outside the convention to try and obtain "god mode". Just like lubing your way into to approaching. Don't be too hard on yourself, we all start like this in the beginning. Even the best of PUA's have their bad days.
/r/seduction16/09/13 05:12 PM
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Nice post man, yeah persistence is key. But as mentioned by someone else I think the fact that she knew you were getting with other girls made her jealous and attracted to you again. Abundence is powerful my friend!
/r/seduction16/09/13 04:14 PM
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Personally, I'm not doing this just for women. I want to improve my social skills with everyone in general. I've been a very shy person since the age of 10. I find it hard to talk to new people and get comfortable with them. Any girl I liked I would ge friend-zoned because I would build up a strong friendship and hope that they will feel the same way till I asked them out (I had oneitis bad and it left me feeling depressed whenever I got denied). My friend introduced me to the game and I was nea…
/r/seduction16/09/13 04:07 PM
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What you have there is abundance. Very powerful if you use it correctly. Don't be afraid of them being in the same place, embrace it. Introduce them to each other and watch them become even more attracted to you. What your projecting is the fact that you have options, basically you're conveying that you're a fucking boss. And girls will go bat shit crazy for you. Just act normal, chill and talk to them all. Take your pick on which you want for that night or use them to help you game a new girl.
/r/seduction15/09/13 08:58 PM
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A lot of peer pressure I guess. No wonder they have no game because they get too drunk to even do anything. But you're right, it's about time I tell them to respect my decisions instead of bullying me into drinking stupid amounts with them.
/r/seduction15/09/13 11:48 AM
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Thanks man! I sometimes feel as if I'm giving too much eye contact when I'm listening to them. Like when I see them break eye contact with me I think "oh god, am I being too creepy?". Should I break away from this mentality and just keep with the eye contact while listening?
/r/seduction11/09/13 07:00 PM
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Very interesting, so keep looking them in the eye while they're talking but also picture in your head about being intimate with them and therefore making it somewhat seductive? Is the fidgeting an IOI or is it just their reaction to you looking at them in a seductive manner? My main problem with eye contact while talking is that I feel uncomfortable. Like the longer I keep eye contact the more I feel uncomfortable so I need to look away for a moment before looking again. I'm gonna force myself t…
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:59 PM
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Oh man I didn't realise holding it while llistening would mean that. I will work on reversing it, thanks!
/r/seduction11/09/13 06:00 PM
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It's a lot harder to pull that off in England haha! I've had quite a few ID's taken off me back in the day! Is it generally easier to fake it in America?
/r/seduction05/09/13 08:18 PM
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I had someone complain to me for saying "hahahaha" on here telling me that I'm acting like a 12 year old... I really don't understand what some people's problems are.
/r/seduction01/09/13 01:19 AM
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Alright cool, kick it up a notch then? I guess I need to be a bit more direct with things then. Thanks for the tip.
/r/seduction29/08/13 03:52 AM
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Talk to EVERYONE. Your first year of university is to build social circles. Talk to a shit ton of girls. Make a lot of female friends, it will serve you well for the second and final year! Being friendzoned isn't a bad thing if you have a lot of female friends, invite them out with you and you'll have pre-selection on your side!
/r/seduction27/08/13 06:21 PM
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Thank you man! Yeah I know whats up with my game now and I'm ready to improve it! I think my building attraction needs a lot of work. What tips do you have for building attraction?
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:56 PM
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What is the difference between telling her how you feel compared to showing vunerability?
/r/seduction27/08/13 01:58 AM
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Imo I think chicks would dig this. Honesty is very attractive to most women. If you use qualification with it then you'll be in a very good place. "No I've not had a girlfriend before, I'm still trying to find the right person who is right for me."
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:58 PM
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I guess but when you have nothing to lose, I guess theres no harm in trying!
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:45 PM
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We just had a general conversation on what we both did, and where we're from. Literally I must have only spoken to her for about 5 minutes alone. I asked for her number afterwards which was probably too soon. I think I was just too excited on how hot she was. Amatuer mistake! (Also I kissed her on the cheek good-bye, bad move I think it was far too soon after 5 minutes and probably made her uncomfortable). Oh I'm not hung up, its all part of the learning process. I was just wondering what everyo…
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:43 PM
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Yeah I should really drop it. I come from the old Mystery Method so that stuff is a bit ingrained into me since I started learning it when I was 16! And yes you are right! If she is too ignorant to reply to a friendly text then it's her loss. Plenty more cute chicks out there!
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:36 PM
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Hahaha I love that! I'm gonna give that a go later, I mean I've got nothing to lose!
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:34 PM
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Thats a very good tip. I always thought it would have made me seem desperate if I just text her straight away. In terms of comfort I guess it would be higher since of the atmosphere of the nightclub etc. Thanks for the tip I will try that next time
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:33 PM
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Yeah I think I rushed in for a #close too fast since we were in the smoking area and she was about to leave to go dance. Conversational wise we were just talking normally asking what we do etc. So in terms of attraction nothing really happened. I think I was just stunned on how attractive she was, total noob move on my part. Though its not the first time this has happened to me, even with lesser attractive people I think I've still asked for numbers way too soon.
/r/seduction26/08/13 01:31 PM
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Thanks man, yeah I've just gotta bite down hard and go for it. If I get shot down then who cares, chances are I'll probably won't see that girl again. Not sure why I'm getting so many downvotes on this FR. Did I do something wrong?
/r/seduction25/08/13 09:02 PM
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Yeah I see what you mean. If the opportunity arises I won't be able to f-close at my parents because its a 30+ minute drive. I do have a place I can crash for the night if I'm not successful, not being able to go out is not the issue. I guess I'm just in a bit of a mess with my life mainly because of this LTR falling apart and I'm trying to find "myself" again and trying to figure out what I want in life because I had really high hopes with my ex. Maybe I'm just thinking too fast about all of th…
/r/seduction22/08/13 12:51 PM
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I suggest going back if you have depression in the past. You never know it might be creeping back or might be something else. Good luck buddy
/r/seduction21/08/13 08:11 PM
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Apologies if you don't already but eat healthy and go to the gym and lift. It will naturally increase your testosterone and generally make you feel happier and healthier. Take zinc supplements and make sure you have a lot of healthy fats in your diet. Olive oil, nuts, fish oils are good. Avoid bad carbs such as fries, chips and eat whole grains instead. You'd be amazed how much better you feel when you change something like your diet and work out! If you're already doing that, I suggest probably…
/r/seduction21/08/13 01:26 PM
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You are a legend. Glad you found a girl you like :) good luck in the future friend!
/r/seduction19/08/13 03:50 PM
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I'm just not into any other type. I'm not sure why but I only find white girls attractive. I guess I find a few oriental girls cute but I'm not sure if I want to commit anything serious with them.
/r/seduction19/08/13 02:47 PM
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If you're serious for this relationship then don't all AFC on her. My main problem was that after meeting my ex i reverted into an AFC cause I liked her that much and I invested in her very highly to the point where it was just embarassing. You're equal in this relationship, if anything her investment must be higher than yours. Happy for you bro and good luck :)
/r/seduction18/08/13 09:24 PM
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All part of them game my friend. The more you do this, the more you'll improve! You can expect to get rid of AA straight away!
/r/seduction18/08/13 05:48 PM
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I see what you mean! But it might not be as uncommon since I do live in England! But saying that, I don't see any Asians (oriental) who have a British accent so you make a good point!
/r/seduction18/08/13 02:49 AM
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Yes I do!
/r/seduction18/08/13 02:27 AM
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Meet as many people as you can. Seriously. Don't get too drunk, pace yourself. If you're looking to game never get wasted for it. Have fun, but not to the point where you're stumbling. I'm so jealous, I wasted my freshers by being in a relationship. I've still got 1 more year of university left so I might just party with the 18 year old hahaha.
/r/seduction18/08/13 12:05 AM
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Reading this article has opened my eyes. I've been so desperate to jump into another relationship because I want to forget my previous 5 year relationship. I doesn't feel normal being "single" for me since I'm so used to being in a relationship. This has caused me to be very desperate to find someone else to be with. Was talking to some chick I used to know and I've realised I've probably came off really needy and now she ignores me (no big deal though, I'm over it). Now I want to just concentra…
/r/seduction17/08/13 11:39 PM
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Question on Facebook game (without face to face interaction). I'm just curious on this topic, how does one build attraction if there is no eye contact, kino etc? Sounds extremely tough. But AFCAdam managed to meet his wife online (since she was all the way in america). What is the process of building attraction online with someone without seeing each other face to face?
/r/seduction16/08/13 06:23 PM
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I guess if some people can pull off ridiculous peacocks, then I can pull it off being myself :) thanks
/r/seduction16/08/13 01:27 AM
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Funny thing is, I only have white friends haha. I don't know many asian guys. There were hardly any in my school and at university I know none. I recently joined the gym, but I do kickbox and looking into grappling to try out for some MMA. I'm naturally shy (but I try not to show that) but I'm not quiet when I talk, but I can try speak louder if it will help. I do understand what you mean by the "quiet" Asian since I know a family friend who falls into that stereotype. I've been thinking about g…
/r/seduction16/08/13 01:23 AM
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Well I'm 5'8 well built frame with emoish hair hahaha! I wear skinny jeans, plain t-shirts and wear Vans. I dunno if thats against any stereotype for being chinese. God I only just realise I should change my style. I'm 22, not 16 for god sake. I honestly don't hang around with enough other chinese people to know what the stereotype is in England.
/r/seduction16/08/13 12:57 AM
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Yeah I know, I'm not making them if they're not interested. It's just trying to get out of the mindset that it's a negative for me. At the end of the day, I can't help what I am. It will suck if theres a girl I get really emotionally invested in to only find that out. But thats life. You win some, you lose some.
/r/seduction16/08/13 12:25 AM
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Thank you man! If I make a big deal out of it (even to myself) it will show on the outside! Like with everything, I have to stay cool, calm and confident. I can't change who I am. If they don't like it, well then it's them who is missing out, not me. Thanks dude, I won't let this be a self-fulfilling prophecy!
/r/seduction16/08/13 12:07 AM
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Gonna check them out now, thanks bro! (I'm a British Asian!)
/r/seduction15/08/13 07:01 PM
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Thanks buddy :)
/r/seduction15/08/13 07:01 PM
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Yeah, I mean everyone has their "type". I mean look at me, I'm only into white girls. So I do see what you mean from that point of view.
/r/seduction15/08/13 06:24 PM
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It really depends on their upbringing. Usually Asian parents are very strict, so they're not very adventurous. If they have more of a western upbringing you'll probably find they're just like any other girl.
/r/seduction15/08/13 06:12 PM
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Thanks man, really appreciate it! It's made me feel a lot better :)
/r/seduction15/08/13 06:09 PM
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I dunno man, I'm current in a similar situation to you. I have my final year at university and all I can do is think about this girl I know who lives like 150+ miles away (but this won't stop me from gaming, just that I don't know whether I should pursue her or not). I think if I k-close, I will be leading her on if I still want to enjoy my final year of university (thing why its so tough is because I've been in a relationship with some chick throughout my years in university, and now that I'm f…
/r/seduction15/08/13 05:19 PM
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Which link is it?
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:55 PM
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Indeed and this is the main issue with me. It's an inner game issue but its not personality I'm worried about, it's more about what people see on the outside. Personality wise I fall into no stereotype of an Asian. Heck, I can hardly speak Chinese! I guess it's one of them things which I need to drill out of my head the more I approach and get results. Thanks
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:47 PM
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I see what you mean. It's funny because I tend to joke with my friends telling them that I will be the whitest chinese guy they will ever meet and that people back in Hong Kong will call me a "banana" since I'm yellow on the outside, white in the inside hahahaha! But in terms of stereotype I meet none of them (especially the math stereotype, I'm shit at math LOL). It's probably why I'm not really into Asian girls. Thanks man, really appreciate your thoughts on this!
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:45 PM
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I love that mind set hahaha! A trophy for the white girls, man thats genius! But I see what you mean. Thanks for the inspiration, its always been in my head since I don't see many girls with Asian guys and most of the people I know of "stick with their kind". But when you're in a multi-cultural country, I guess its not too out of the normal these days right? I mean we're not in the 1950's no more!
/r/seduction15/08/13 04:43 PM
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From what I've read, there are two ways of going about it. There is the seduction route where you sexual escalate but don't have sex with them (AFCAdam's method) or theres the friend-zoning on purpose method. AFCAdam's method seems a bit more complicated if you have girls which are jealous and get all butthurt over the fact that you're a "player" in my opinion. Friendzoning method is a lot easier as you don't have to worry about them getting jealous because they're your "friends" and you've esta…
/r/seduction15/08/13 12:01 PM
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Hahahaha thanks man! Will look into it! Well the aim is not to work game on them. Its to make friends with them and by knowing them they will introduce me to their other hot friends!
/r/seduction11/08/13 04:42 PM
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Thanks man. Its interesting, I've read stuff where by being around a load of girls, the ones you friend-zoned will actually crave for sexual attention from you if they see you being sexual and flirty with other girls. It seems like such a game to play, with very little work required. It almost sounds too good to be true. But it makes so much sense in a way that if you're so valueable socially, its only natural for people in general to gravitate towards you.
/r/seduction11/08/13 02:33 PM
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This. Also don't feel the need to stalk your facebook for her to message back. Do something else. Reply when you're not busy. If you have something to do, do that first then reply when you have nothing else important to do. Replying straight away like an attention starved dog usually shows how desperate you are. If she doesn't reply, give it a week before saying hi again. Currently doing this myself to a girl I used to know from primary school.
/r/seduction11/08/13 01:37 PM
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Hows your inner game? Are you keeping yourself well? Staying fit? Getting enough sleep? If its a self confidence thing then why don't you just randomy say hi to a load of girls and practice small talking. If its self confidence in general, take up a martial art (it does wonders for self confidence and fitness and generally meeting down to earth people). Just going up to say "Hi how are you" seems a bit out of the blue in my opinion. You'd either want to do an indirect or a direct opener. Try one…
/r/seduction11/08/13 12:23 PM
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Perhaps you're generating too much attraction? Which isn't a bad thing in general but it is bad considering your goals. How much kino are you using? Are you touching her how you would a friend? Or are you touching her seductively? Just treat her as a friend and you shouldn't have a problem. When you hug, pat her on the back. Hand on shoulders, elbow etc. Just imagine her as a dude, you wouldn't hold a dude's hand would you!
/r/seduction11/08/13 12:15 PM
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Ahhh I get it now! Thanks! I always had the thought that you were supposed to escalate them but not have sex with them. I must have interpreted what AFCAdam was saying incorrectly!
/r/seduction11/08/13 12:37 AM
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Haha don't worry it was a fair enough question. Yeah I can make friends easily (so I think). I guess its me thinking its harder than it seems. Mainly cause I've just ended a LTR where the girl was very jealous and controlling and pretty much throw a bitch fit whenever I spoke to a girl... But oh well at least I'm out of that hahaha! Time to start again and make new friends :) I've got one more year of university, so time to make it count! Thanks man :)
/r/seduction11/08/13 12:36 AM
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You don't need to drink to play the game. Mystery said that you should never be drunk while playing the game. If you're drinking to kill your AA then its not the way to do it. I personally advise you to go out and do some day game. Don't bother with closing. Just go around and get used to talking to cute chicks. Ask where the nearest Starbucks is etc. Girls usually will help you with directions. Slowly expand it once you get used to it. You: Hi, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is? HB: Su…
/r/seduction10/08/13 02:55 PM
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Sounds like you made her feel shitty as a form of revenge from all your bad experience when this girl generally liked you.
/r/seduction10/08/13 01:38 PM
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Wow thats rather interesting. I'm 22 and I'm all into that metal/rock stuff but as you get older you will start to grow out of it. I'm already considering of getting rid of this "emo/scene" hair cut I've got as I feel as if I'm getting a bit too old for stuff like that haha. I think the main thing which naturals have which allows them to have the most success is confidence. They're absolutely flowing of it! But yeah, naturals don't know the complete science behind it. They just learn through tri…
/r/seduction08/08/13 01:39 PM
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Heh thats fair enough man! If you were a natural back then, what happened for you to need to learn the art of pick up? Personally, I was always scared of showing interest to a girl. Every girl I liked ended up friend zoning based on the fact that I was too nice. Now everytime I actually like a girl with meaning I get scared of progressing with her. Any other cute girl who I just meet I won't be scared to at least try. But if theres a girl which I feel matters I completely freeze and don't want t…
/r/seduction08/08/13 01:36 AM
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Hahaha thats sweet man! What has the most you've done with a 2 set? I would imagine K/F closing would be a challenge seeing as there needs to be someone to take care of the +1! Theres something about night game which gets me all AA. I can easily go up to a cute chick during the day and open her. Maybe its the fact that they're always in groups at night rather than alone. Its just another factor I need to think of, and more work in general to isolate etc.
/r/seduction08/08/13 01:17 AM
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Thanks man. Well I guess he isn't the CEO of PUATraining for nothing. Hmm sounds quite interesting, I'll give that a good read in a sec! And obviously when I "open" her with Gambler's method do I interact with the whole group, or do I talk to just her? Just it will be awkward since if I say out loud "Hey, how have you been" everyone will assume I should know her name?
/r/seduction08/08/13 01:04 AM
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Checking it out now :) thanks! Edit: Maaan just watched it. You know its gonna be good since its got Gambler in it! Only issue is once you get that forced IOI how do you isolate? Like for example he mentions saying "Hey, how have you been?" to try and trick her friends into thinking that you know each other; but how do you move on from that? Cause if you say "Hi I'm blahblah" they're gonna be buying into that bullshit? Or would you simply kino, then be like "you wanna come dance with me?" or "I'…
/r/seduction07/08/13 08:55 PM
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You need to hit on her like it's your last chance to leave your DNA in this world. You will be friend zoned if you don't flirt or make it clear you want something more than friendship. Kino is key for this. If you know she's attracted to you then it will speed the whole process up a lot faster. Start with subte things, hug her when you see her, touch her shoulder and arm. When you lead her through the door be like "after you" and guide her with your hand on her lower back. Play games like thumb …
/r/seduction07/08/13 05:07 PM
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Yeah man! Just do anything to take your mind off it! Just open any girl. The more you do it, the more comfortable you'll feel! I'm wanting to do the Apocalypse Opener so bad. But maaaaan thats just so god damn scary!
/r/seduction07/08/13 12:58 AM
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You sir, are fucking epic. Thank you for giving me the inspiration!!!!
/r/seduction07/08/13 12:32 AM
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I have the same issue. I tried to introduce them to pick up and they call bullshit. You need to have the mindset of that they're not gonna get anywhere in their sex life if they lurk in the corner staring at all the hot chicks. Don't let them stop you from gaming during your nights out. Maybe you should mix in some day game, build your social circle. AFCAdam always talks about the importance of pre-selection. During day, approach as many girls as you can. Get to know them, go on a date. Get them…
/r/seduction07/08/13 12:06 AM
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Bro don't worry about AA. It happens, you just need to slowly ease your way in. A good tip to stop the initial anxiety would be to ask for directions. Ask for the time. Just general conversation / questions. You don't need to approach every single girl and try and work your material. "Hey, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?" Then once you get used to doing that, build on that. Add something onto that! Keep it simple, make it a normal conversation. Don't both with routines etc. At the mo…
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:55 PM
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Don't worry. If you approach 100 girls not all of them are gonna react the same. We are humans, we are unique. This game we play isn't some sort of magic which will instantly get us success. Its something to help us build ourselves to become better with communicating with the opposite sex. Chicks love confidence. And by learning this, approaching a shit ton of girls we'll become comfortable being put in these situation. Just keep at it with approaching and the more confident you get, the better …
/r/seduction06/08/13 01:09 PM
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Mate, you're still young. If you get caught up with one girl it will affect your overall game. Yes you could have lost your virginity to this girl etc etc but there are plenty of girls out there. Most mPUA's did not lose their virginity till ages. The reason why you're getting so caught up on this because you're not willing to forgive yourself. Let it go, analyse your mistakes and learn from them. This is what makes us better not only as "PUA's" but better people from life experiences. I'm 22. F…
/r/seduction06/08/13 12:36 PM
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I fucking love this sub-reddit. You are a fucking boss.
/r/seduction06/08/13 12:25 PM
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For those who are saying this isn't apoc opener. Yes you are correct. But the principles are the same. OP used shock and awe on the HB. Which is the idea behind apoc. Try it and you'll get some hilarious response. I will link to a detailed FR on someone who did a 30 day challenge on it to get rid of AA when I'm on my computer Edit: Heres the link http://www.rsdnation.com/node/186822
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:32 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys. You've just made it clear to me from all your opinions. I'm not gonna bother with her. Sure she's cute, but there are cuter girls closer to me who I can game!
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:21 AM
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I agree. There's no way I'm gonna improve if I'm gonna be stuck on a chick far away. Fuck that shit! Gonna be gaming in my area! Thanks :)
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:19 AM
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You're right. The reason I feel like this is cause she's the first girl I've thought is super cute and would like to get to know her again since my ex (split up recently from a 5 year relationship). I never had a thing for her beforehand! It's just now but as I've said on backing off until I can successfully k close someone.
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:18 AM
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HOLD IT MY SON
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:15 AM
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Glad to hear you had success! Yeah this is what I've been thinking. I'm gonna back offand build my social circle before i even bother. Thanks for the advice and confirming my theory
/r/seduction06/08/13 11:15 AM
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Out of curosity.
/r/seduction06/08/13 02:02 AM
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I just did a quick google about it. It doesn't seem too much you can talk about. All you need to do is... You: Hey. HB: Hey. You: How's it going? HB: Fine. You: What you doing later? HB: Dunno. You: Wanna come back to mine? HOLD IT (normal eye contact) KEEP HOLDING FUCKING HOLD IT K Close. Thats what i've read so far. Its just showing how big your balls are and shocking her with them. http://www.bristollair.com/2008/outer-game/pua-routines/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener/
/r/seduction05/08/13 11:07 PM
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Thanks man! I dabbled in the game before my LTR (i used mild game on her to get her interest and then threw it all away. probably why she cheated after 5 years). I'm getting into it now and just starting from fresh. But yeah, I don't want oneitus. All she has going atm is that she's super cute. But thats about it. Perhaps after I've gone out and open a few hundred sets I can at least try. But atm, this is gonna set me back even more. I've been looking AFCAdam's stuff on pre-selection, qualificat…
/r/seduction05/08/13 10:04 PM
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Yeah I agree. Practice makes perfect!
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:54 PM
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Thanks :)! I just wanted to have a play about and see how far I get. But I should really eject since I will probably end up with oneitus which is a big no no!
/r/seduction05/08/13 02:09 PM
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From listening to Adam Lyons it really depends on the situation. He makes a good point on room dynamics. If you ignore everyone in the room, walk up to the back where the HB10 is and go "Who do you think lies more?" she's gonna know you're hitting on them. From my opinion, you may come off as creepy unless you're smooth as hell. If people like Gambler take 45 minutes to work on a single girl then take your time. Don't feel the need to rush a set because rushing causes mistakes. I recommend watch…
/r/seduction05/08/13 12:30 PM
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Thanks, I think this is the main problem I had. My aim was to really find someone since throughout my teenage years I had 0 success with getting with the girl I liked. I got friend-zoned and then they ignored me. As soon as I got the girl I wanted I thought that was it and things became lame... I lowered my value to her so much and thats probably why she went off and cheated on me and didn't care towards the end. Definitely looking forward to be back and improving my game so I can do it right ne…
/r/seduction04/08/13 08:23 PM
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