What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."

Gareth321 · 2011-12-06T17:51:43+00:00

When MRAs demand equality, they are becoming a masculine form of feminism. They want equality for all men, and all women, which leads to a further denial of reality. In reality, no one is equal, remember — just like in the army, a corporation or even a primitive tribe, we all have roles. Equality destroys that.

Bullshit. Clearly the author and I have vastly different understandings of the meaning of "equality" when talking about a society. His interpretation seems to be one of identical outcomes, where everyone has the same roles and is treated the same by everyone else. My understanding is equality under the law and has nothing to do with the role you fill in society. I suspect that most of the posters in r/MR agree with the idea of equality under the law being most important, otherwise this subreddit wouldn't have an inordinate amount of posts about how the law and court systems mistreat men and are biased in favor of women. Please downvote the OP for trying to poison MRAs against the idea of equality.

2011-12-06T17:38:53+00:00

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Honztastic · 2011-12-06T17:33:00+00:00

Feminism in itself is inherently biased. It's called feminism. It promotes one gender over another and seeks only the benefit women.

It doesn't matter if you are an egalitarian feminist or whatever. If you identify yourself as pro- any gender instead of a strict humanist or egalitarian or the like, you are admitting you seek one gender's dominance in some form over the other.

Think of the shit any guy would get if he announced he was a "masculinist". I've explained this point to a few women. And they have no concept of the implication of aligning yourself with a gender. Apparently only men are sexist.

Demonspawn · 2011-12-06T15:56:40+00:00

When MRAs demand equality, they are becoming a masculine form of feminism. They want equality for all men, and all women, which leads to a further denial of reality. In reality, no one is equal, remember — just like in the army, a corporation or even a primitive tribe, we all have roles. Equality destroys that.

The author is against equality? Downvoted...

DeepFriedChildren · 2011-12-07T03:04:36+00:00

I don't know that this guy gets it at all. You can make all the broad sweeping comments that you want to about equality or inequality, but the point is neither is 100% applicable in all situations. For example if you are for complete equality, what is your solution to restrooms? should we -ban- urinals, or tampon dispensers? Of course not! This is a situation where inequality is quite reasonable. On the flip side, all things being equal does it make sense that a man should be able to vote, while a woman was barred? Of course not, that's the kind of utter tripe society has rid itself of already.

Why does everyone seems to be to adamantly opposed to some kind of system where we have fairness, and justness where each is required?

UnoriginalMike · 2011-12-06T20:34:28+00:00

Feminism was about women's rights, just like this subreddit is about men's rights. Having achieved equal rights compared to men, the movement turned out just like any other, hungry for more. Now it seems feminism wants to have its cake and eat it too. They want to maintain superiority and continue to fight for more.

trust_the_corps · 2011-12-08T01:17:59+00:00

Guys, I've got it. Lets reclaim the word and make it true to its namesake. Feminism should be about being feminine.

Lets here by decree that henceforth any feminist not deeply obsessed with femininity is no true feminist. A feminist shall be defined as a woman with a true penchant for the feminine. A love of pink, flowers, all things cute! Obsessed with makeup and pretty girly things. Must have braids and flowers or bows in their hair. Must own a pony or desperately wish to do so and all that.

Feminism is to be about the recognition and acceptance of all that is feminine!

2011-12-06T15:49:34+00:00

A more succinct and accurate definition you will not find.

nanomagnetic · 2011-12-07T04:23:03+00:00

I would say these blogs are this subreddit's bread and butter, but there's never any substance...

Ishmael999 · 2011-12-07T03:27:24+00:00

Oh /r/MensRights. You so funny. You'd learn a lot if you did some reading on Feminism that wasn't on a Mens Rights blog. It's like when I was a young creationist and I thought I understood evolution because I'd read what creationists had to say about evolution. It's dressed up ignorance.

Liverotto · 2011-12-07T01:07:18+00:00

Feminism: The recognition that women are inferior to men and must be helped to bring them to equality.

TheRealPariah · 2011-12-07T10:57:35+00:00

MrStinkybutt is a troll and never links to anything worthwhile. The moderators banned this guy by the way. Anyone upvoting it might need to be reminded the post is worthless and a troll.

Yes, sarcasm.

Title	What is feminism? "a demand that women come first, using the justification of equality, at the expense of men."
Author	MrStinkybutt
Upvotes	84
Comments	60
Date	December 6, 2011 3:12 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/n2juv/what_is_feminism_a_demand_that_women_come_first/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/what-is-feminism-a-demand-that-women-come-first.1030894 https://theredarchive.com/post/1030894

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