Banned: Cliffor | MensRights

kloo2yoo · 2011-04-24T01:21:12+00:00

Several reasons: First, the wildly absurd lizard comspiracy, and the cia post that cliffor made about it. the petition to get /r/beatingwomen into the sidebar...

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Cliffor just bored the shit out of me... if she was here or there it wouldn't make a fuck of difference.

However, it's interesting to know that some feminists feel so threatened by us that not only are they compelled to come here everyday and behave like shitheads, they actually spend hours of their own time creating fake subreddits and multiple accounts that they think will somehow damage us.

Weirdos. Fuckin' weirdos, man.

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I might start doing that...It would probably be better to put all five of the crazy feminist stuff I submit together in one test post with a title that describes them or what I think is wrong with them...

And for anyone reading this comment branch, I AM NOT CLIFFOR.

Depending on how you define the word, I don't even troll.

I chose it as my online handle because it was the first thing that popped into my mind because I have been called a troll by feminists so many times.

If you define trolling as someone who provokes a heated response from their targets....then I do troll feminists in the name of mens rights...I have made mentions on manboobz multiple times, even got my own post dedicated to me...that is a badge of honor in my opinion. I even made feministes top troll contest awhile back, that was before I got addicted to reddit though.

I do have to say that I was impressed by cliffors determination....she must have a boyfriend supporting her or food stamps.

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Thanks. I think I will do that. I post a lot of feminist sites because I hate them so much. So much of my hate stems from the fact that I, before I actually read their material and thought about it, used to align myself with their movement. When all you know is that they talk about equality and the propaganda they use to sell people then it sounds good.

They still have one or two ideas that I don't think are bad but simply misguided. It is strange to think I could buy into their ideas so easily. I haven't heard a single feminist argument that I didn't hear from my mother first but even the ones from my mom were phrased in a way that made them sound good...or maybe I was naive. I do remember being shut down time and again by her, but then again she and other feminists phrase it in a way to appeal to your better instincts...that is why they use shaming language when their propaganda doesn't work.

Manboobz is a piece of shit and I stay away from there too. I will try to post feminist oriented stuff in a text format in the future. The only reason I post it at all is so people can read it and compare it with our ideas and because I hate them the way that former cult members hate cults. The last round of stuff was crazy. I only posted about a 3rd of what I trolled through too because I didn't want the front page to be full of nothing but radical feminist stuff and scare off any new members.

I was more hoping to target the people still on the fence who believe that most feminism is good while still using the core concepts used by radfems.

I was thinking I might do it once or twice a week...maybe under a good name. Got any ideas.

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Calm down guys. No need to lock horns. Feminists, and cliffors (we need to start calling all feminist trolls cliffor IMHO), want to divide us so they can conquer us and appropriate our calling. Let's not give them any hand in that.

I do actually agree with evilpundit for several reasons. I won't lie, I do get a bit of a kick out of f5in the front page or two and seeing 90% of it as my own trollish work. Then I get sad when they are all sitting at 0 and have one or two comments...0.o

But my aim isn't to spam so much. At first I wanted to drive out the feminists in this sub, that was my goal about 5 months ago, and I think we have done that to a large degree. They dragged some white knights and manginas with them and created the male sub for women, oney, and then created genderegalitarianism and I know from reading 2x every now and then that they don't like the atmosphere here because they feel unwelcome....which kinda sucks for some of the honest women who want to participate but yknow, would we rather have more men, even if they are a bit rough around the edges (like some of the guys from f7u12 and other "misogynist" parts of reddit), or fewer men but some honest women mixed in with feminist trolls and co-opters??? The feminists will hate us or co-opt us and some of the honest women can be reached but I don't think we should reach them here but instead we should reach them in other places.

Anyways. I don't want to spam but I do want to see more diverse content and that is why I agree. Instead of submitting 10 batshit insane feminist articles I will probably put them in a text post 5 at a time. I like seeing my articles on the front page but I would honestly, and have been meaning to do this, like to see more articles posted from mens oriented sites or mgtow sites or MRA sites instead of feminist or lamestream media sites. I, and others, have noticed that the lamestream has realized they can capitalize on MRA issues and this is probably one reason sites like The good men shit and feminists have been trying to appropriate us. We are taking their money by going over to the wallstreet journal and raging about hanna rosin and hymowitz et al.

I think this is good but it also means we spend a lot of time fighting with feminists or feeding corporate news that will mock us instead of helping us because they want our page views....but we do get to spread our word...so.

The other day I was trolling through a feminist site and clicked on a username comment and found a radfem site and then trolled through the blogroll and then found 10-15 (don't even remember how many) radfem sites I posted.

I think I will, and I suggest you and others do too, do the same with some MRA/MGTOW sites.

But, uh thanks for sticking up for me. This comment thread is kinda shocking considering how much flak I have gotten from feminists in this sub.

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I think you and MIP are both right. One of the earliest definitions for the word troll I ever heard was something along the lines of, "to get a response." Today it doesn't really mean anything because on the internets it is the first thing someone will call you if they disagree with you. Kinda like how feminists love calling guys misogynists for simple disagreement.

I would like to think that my particular brand of trolling makes people think instead of making them angry. But, if you have to get angry to wake up and peel away the layers of feminist conditioned cognitive dissonance...then get angry.

Most people expect me to troll, as in leaving the word faggot or cunt and nothing else, but I usually don't. Sometimes I will but even then it tends to be a "misogynistic" comment that I hope people will think about.

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Well, I will probably post some tonight.

We will see.

As far as traffic goes, look into search engine optimization (SEO). You can go and look at the most searched terms and drop them into your articles, or write articles based on current events that will be searched and the more terms matching the most popular search terms in your articles means more traffic. Also, drop important articles into comments or other blog articles related to your important articles. Just don't be like manhood academy and spam the fuck out of everything.

I actually like your blog a lot and read the posts you submit here. You tend to take more of a middle the road or balanced approach. Which is good.

But I do think you are somewhat wrong about the Scandinavian nations. I think what is actually happening is a widespread nationalistic or political version of what we see online with feminists.

Online they keep trying to appropriate the MRM. I am not sure if it is to control the issues, or because they are losing relevance, or because they realize, in their terms, "that equality for women can't happen without changing [re forcing] male roles," or what? It may be all combined plus more.

What I do know is that Scandanavian countries and most of Europe are even more progessed into feminism than America.

To break it down.

Feminists embrace socialism on a economic level and political and even racial and educational level. What happens is that birth rates drop, women go into the male spheres of politics, business, etc and men tend to drop out because there are only so many spots. By socialism on a racial level I mean AA(affirmative action policies) and this creates other problems. If you look at Europe they have incredibly high immigration rates and immigrants can get away with hirering other immigrants instead of locals. We can talk about racism all we want but it is human nature for people to want to be around others like them.

We basically have two or more groups competing for the same spot and in European countries the government is backing the non local group over their own locals. This is why you see so much crime and so many college students who are losing a future and are rioting. I am not explaining it well but do some research into it for a follow up post.

I think the reason the feminist establishment in these countries are creating male boards, under feminist rule, is because they realize they have a unmarried, non ruled in the home, population of angry men who only get larger each year. There are a lot of factors to consider and it depends on which country but almost all of them are socialist and femininst to some degree. I find it amazing how feminism and socialism go together or come together in so many ways.

I don't have a problem with communism-lite, aka socialism, or communism in theory but in practice it never works so well. Communitarianist theories and policies always turn on the individuals eventually. Men tend to be more individualist by nature or nurture, your pick, and this is one reason that men tend to create rebellions and revolutions or counter groups like crime. Criminal groups are highly structured and capitol motivated and believe it or not usually run by intelligent people.

IDK. It will be really interesting to see what happens with these boards. I don't have high hopes though. Everything feminist oriented seems to be about giving women all the choices they want while reconstructing the male role to meet the expectations of feminist demands. From everything I have seen and from what I read on your blog it sounds like feminist appropriation and colonization.

Good luck.

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I use statcounter, Ive had over 30k page loads and 22k visits in a bit over a year, so I guess i am doing well :D

As birth rates drop women go into male fields. This is true, and in some places I think this is more beneficial (like third world countries less childrearing and more economic stimulation) However, at the same time men need to go into traditionally female fields.

But for those who don't want to read-basically you are saying these Male Boards are coming out of feminist's fears more than anything else? Ok makes sense. And you are right we need to be skeptical. If the source is feminists trying to appease men then we have to see if it backfires. We may win some battles and we may lose others but I am not going to call it a failure and a step back quite yet.

I don't think it is smart to lump them all together either. Iceland may be a lost cause, but Denmark is in creation depending on where we put our resources could alter our results.

At the least all of these boards seem to be great when it comes to Paternity leave even if it is for the sake of feminist appeal and allowing women to be out of the home more, we are getting something we want due to their own desires without having to fight. I fail to see the problem. They also appear to be doing a lot of health research. These may be the least objectionable things, but it is also a starting point.

I also think these boards are an opportunity. They may start feminist but if we can influence them in any shape or form to meet our desires then we should. What do we have to lose by trying? A bit of time and energy? Its better than doing nothing at all.

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I agree. If feminists create, for the sake of equality, more health research for men then great. If men have the OPTION of taking paternity leave due to feminists....great. I have a problem with paternity leave in two instances though. If it is forced, by government intervention then that is bad or through economic or incentive based restrictions then that is bad. Someone shouldn't lose money or tax credits or face any sort of penalty for not taking paternity leave, or fulfilling any other sort of feminist driven changes even if it does benefit men. I think this is what will happen. I have seen it in other European countries, I think (?) that it is in sweden where men face a penalty for each month of paternity leave they don't take up to the maximum and then if they go over the maximum they face another penalty....they did this because men weren't taking the leave as much as women wanted so they created a penalty and now men do.

As far as the blog hits go, that isn't bad but you can do better. Especially considering your content and how well it is written. Maybe branch out onto other subjects. Post on other blogs and drop a link to your blog or articles when appropriate. I got that many hits in less time and I didn't even keep my blog for a year before I abandoned, only temporarily, it...or it actually got shut down by blogger and google because I pissed off so many feminists....it will be resurrected on my own personal server soon (hopefully).

Search SEO and read some about it. There is plenty of info out there. Simply using keywords that are popular and easily searched will bring you more page views. One of my articles that got the most pageviews was about Britney Spears and how she was accused of beating up a body guard. The story was big but one thing that got me the most views was that my blog is NSFW and I published as many nude pics of britney spears as I could find at the end of my article and I also talked about PUA stuff and female nature and ranted and raved and....a huge number of people search for nude pics of britney spears and hopefully I informed a few minds who were just hoping to fap.

My blog, that I haven't written on in about 6 months, is at the other end of the extreme spectrum of MRA blogs and yours should be getting much more attention. You take the more mainstream approach and really should be getting more attention. Go post some on the spearhead and then leave a link to a relevant article of yours. Hell, email the good men project and sent them some articles of yours....I hate them and think they are feminist appropriators but they did post stuff from Paul Elam and others and they are getting huge amounts of hits. But you might attract some feminists. Here, a few hours searching and reading through this will help

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Well your blog is a bit more controversial, and controversy sells. I look into expanding from time to time. I don't get much luck with AVfM when it comes to traffic. I did something for the good men project a while ago, but it didn't bring in much traffic. And the entire week on the MRM backfired on us. Maybe I will do another piece in the future who knows. But because of my last piece something else dealing with feminism is on the way (I can't give much in regards to details). Right now I am focusing on work, school, and landing another interview (no names are going to be given yet).

As for the spearhead? I haven't looked at that in ages. Its got some good stuff, but its not my style. Next on the list of traffic getters is probably going to be a facebook page and a friend of mine who uses her facebook for networking purposes. I am going to have her advertise my blog.

I honestly don't mind what I have gotten regarding feminist traffic/messages. I haven't gotten anything too confrontational, mostly inquiries into deeper stuff and a bit of NAFALT (ok that's frustrating but thats not the majority of what I get). Reaching as many people as possible has to be the goal. And feminists ARE people.

I'll definitely try to check out SEO by the end of the night, but I have homework and should really get on that.

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However, at the same time men need to go into traditionally female fields.

I can't really say I agree with this. For one, it means that social engineering by feminists is taking away men's choices and opportunities. I don't think that is good. Does it benefit society to have a potentially great male future engineer end up working as a house nanny???

Then there is the issue of hypergamy. I have known of a few high powered white collar women married to plumbers and on the surface they seemed happy....then a few years later they were getting a divorce because she cheated. These people I met through my parents or former coworkers. The thing is that plumbers actually make good money. She didn't cheat because he couldn't make money, but because he was blue collar and lower in status than him.

It may not be universal but does seem to be the majority. Women want higher status mates. You rarely see women talking about wanting to date a shorter guy. Height is a marker of status in all cultures I have studied. Look at leaders. Whether George Washington or Sadaam Hussein, both towered over people. Most women don't want to date and marry a nurse or babysitter....they would probably think the baby sitter or teacher is a pedo.

Now, if guys want to go into nursing or teaching or baby sitting then I want to see them have that choice and I want to see them be given the respect they are deserving of.

The problem with feminism isn't that it claims to give men more choices, the problem is that it determines which outcomes men are allowed to have in society. They do this for the same reason they traditionally were against women being housewives. If women have the option to stay home and raise kids they will do it. I actually wonder if that is why they created incentives for women to screw men over for giving women that option because it will naturally lead to men shying away from housewives and instead looking for corporate or career wives. Gotta love economics.

If given the opportunity I don't think most men will want to be a nurse but instead a doctor.

I don't disagree that these boards might be a potential. I am just skeptical and I really wonder why women and feminists think they have the right to decide what roles men should or shouldn't have. At best it seems that this will be feminist or government coercion against men.

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MRM troll? In what context do you mean?

I have stated multiple times that back in High School I called myself a male allie or feminist. I bought into the propaganda of, "feminism means women are people too (what else would they be, reptilian aliens [just a joke people...I made it long before cliffor came around and really I think cliffor is manboobz or one of his rapid feminists trying to mock us and discredit us])."

I have seen a ton of evil shit happen to men around me, and even experienced it myself (although I will admit that some of the stories I tell may not completely be mine, but if it happened to a friend of mine who shot himself...then who is left to tell it? But most are mine.) and it wasn't until I actually started reading some feminist blogs and books that I started seeing these things as not separate and isolated incidents but instead as part of a larger fabric or system inspired by or negligently cause by feminism.

I am not a feminist troll or spy, I do enjoy using their own conepts against them though. I actually can't believe that I bought into such stupidity at one point in time...then again, I believe capitalism was bad and was a socialist anarchist in HS..so. Hell, I also thought punk rock wasn't dead.

I am actually kinda embarrassed that I spent so much time arguing with feminists before delurking from the MRM and becoming a MRA. That is why I chose the name troll, I would be rich if I had a quater for every time I got called a troll and then my comment deleted or banned outright on some feminist site just 3 years ago or less...under different names ofcourse but I was arguing in good faith...no longer will I make that mistake.

I troll in the name of male rights and issues and I am guessing that is what you meant but if not please enlighten me. Also, I couldn't pass up a chance to leave so many long posts in cliffors memorial thread...haha fuck you cliffor.

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I am offended by this sir.

I actually don't troll that much, I used to troll feminist sites but that was after trying to talk to them and discuss things rationally and I kept getting called a troll for no fuckin reason. So, after lurking in the manosphere I found the spearhead right after it was started and decided on a name and....Troll King was born.

But no, I am not cliffor. I have two other accounts, one is a troll account called feministtrollqueen but I have only used it once and even got a post about it on manboobz. The other one is trollicusmaximus and I created it when I went to italy awhile back.

I actually think cliffor and her sockpuppets or supporters are manboobz followers and probably feminists from feministe.

Whe whole lizard brain thing is from some MGTOW posts and a joke I posted in a comment section on a spearhead article months back...I actually borrowed it from rantgrrl because she said something about women being reptillian aliens in a joking way and about that being why women are always so cold...

Manboobz has a joke running on his site that mocks MRAs for believing in lizard brains or some MGTOWers talking about lizard brains.

What they are actually talking about is one model of the brain that breaks the brain down into various parts based on evolution. There is the lizard part of the brain that controls stuff like breathing, then the mammalian or ape part of the brain that controls things like social behaviors and then there is the human part of the brain that controls higher thought processes....There are a handful of MGTOWers who talked about how women use different parts of the brain or some who even talked about women not having the upper brain parts and relying solely on their lizard brain....now manboobz and his/her (because I saw him talking about not being able to become pregnant on one of his posts recently about gangbangs and MGTOW and I wouldn't be surprised if it is a female with a male internet persona or maybe a FTM transperson??) feminist crowds have picked it up and are mocking us.

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Well, I am not Cliffor. I could link to her pic of herself and then post a pic of my cock or something but that still won't prove shit....I don't even know if cliffor is actually a female but I think she is.

You happen to have a picture of your face? You're probably proud of your cock and all that but all the men here have one, so we know what a penis looks like, and it doesn't look like a face.

Downstream in this thread there is a small fight between a few posters who got into it over me posting too much content....I think I am in the cross hairs.

Poor you. What does this have to do with verifying your identity? Nout. I was curious so I asked a question. Simple. So if you think it was unjustified so be it. I wasn't attacking your pride, your posting or your penis.

Again, I think cliffor is a feminist from manboobz site or feministe or maybe just a bitch who I pissed off when she posted the pic of herself and I said she looked like a ex of mine, from the little bit I could tell, and then made fun of her for looking like a bulimic.

Because this is an internet forum, I think it wise to consider that all commentary ought be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to the subjective. There are a lot of subjective view points round these parts.

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Huh? I was joking about the penis bit. Simply pointing out that even if I posted a pic of my face that I and you and everyone else really don't have any way to verify that I, or cliffor, have posted anything other than a pic we could have found on the internet.

All I can say is that I am not cliffor. I also have no intention of publishing a pic of my face or cock.

I guess something in my previous comment rubbed you the wrong way but I don't really know what it was.

All I can say is that I am male and I am not cliffor. I don't even know if the pic cliffor posted awhile back was cliffor. For all I know it could of been one of cliffors friends or a gf or roommate or..or..or...that is all I was poiting out. That and cliffor has taken to posting crap that I have found on manboobz and is based around a stupid joke about women being reptilian aliens that I posted on the-spearhead awhile back...

Oh...I meant that I think I am in the cross hairs of cliffor and other feminists, not the few posters below in this comment stream.

I don't know why cliffor would be mocking me and other MRAs, with a stupid joke I made or maybe some comments made by MGTOWers about parts of the brain, and also be calling herself/himself me...unless I was in their cross hairs.

I don't think it was unjustified. I simply had no idea that cliffor was claiming to be me and again the only reason I have to think that they would be claiming to be me is because I have pissed them off personally or they see me as a easy target or a valuable target or???

I pointed out the little fight below because it is all about how I post so much in this sub that I clutter the front page.....so, if cliffor is claiming to be me it makes sense to me that cliffor is targeting someone who posts a lot to r/MR and why?....cliffors entire point seems to be to mock the MRM and discredit us. Am I a easy target or valuable one or is she just pissed at me? IDK.

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Title	Banned: Cliffor
Author	kloo2yoo
Upvotes	8
Comments	90
Date	April 24, 2011 1:21 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gw1qe/banned_cliffor/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/banned-cliffor.1040605 https://theredarchive.com/post/1040605

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