There's only one fact that applies to literally all homes with two adults where one person does more domestic duties than the other: the person who does the extra work consistently, is highly likely to score high for trait conscientiousness in a psychometric test.
It tends to be true that more women than men score highly on conscientiousness. It is true that as a person becomes more towards the extreme end of conscientious, they are more likely to be dictatorial, rigid and fanatical. The extreme example of the lack of conscientiousness is a heroin junky, just crashing life, lying casually, utterly incapable of being reliable.
But as you get more life experience you meet the couples where the man's the straight edge, and his wife's just a whirlwind of chaos.
The problem is that this is one of the big 5 personality traits. The ones that don't change much. That means that for individuals, a broad small improvement is the very best possible outcome. And there's plenty of men and women on both sides.
So any movement to compensate people for lazy spouses must also include compensation for the hundreds of millions of men in the world who spend life picking up after the woman they love. If we can't just be adult about it and trust the couples to find the balance that works best for themselves.
Highly conscientious spouses are often very hard to tolerate because they forever point out your mistakes without ever giving you a break. Highly conscientious people get dumped a lot.
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I think it is reasonable. I read a while back about the definitions of GDP, and how various parts of household labour were valued and performed. All od the typically masculine things like yardwork had dollar estimates on them because you could outsource those functions and thus they were contributions to the economy. But all of the typically female ones weren't and thus contribute nothing of value to the economy according to gdp. Now, society has changed, and all of those 'womens work' functions are now ALSO things which you can outsource to other people. But somehow the gdp definition is still blind to them.
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Yes but then GDP was invented as a measure, it explicitly excluded that labour. I personally think that Gross National Product is a much better reflection of national productivity, and there's really no reason to use GDP instead.
So if I earn $1000 a week at a job, and pay someone else $1000 a week to look after my children, that's $2000 for GDP. But if THEY work my job, and I look after my own children, that's only $1000 for GDP. Despite the same two people working the same two jobs.
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Yeah I decided that it wasn't that helpful for an online argument. So I replied with an anecdote instead to demonstrate my perspective.
If I earn $1000 a week at a job, and pay someone else $1000 a week to look after my children, that's $2000 for GDP. But if THEY work the job, and I look after my own children, that's only $1000 for GDP. Despite the same two people working the same two jobs.
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Chores are called chores for a reason. Nobody wants to do chores.
The fact that women are expected to suck it up, be more mature and do the invisible physical and emotional labour for the household isn't just because that's their preference and an innate part of who they are.
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