Revoking consent

zzzsoebre · 2021-08-29T19:42:22+00:00

I know that there can be differences but the man has every right to stop the same way a woman does

Starforce2005 · 2021-08-29T19:35:19+00:00

It's sad to see even in this sub, people are defending this double standard.

Imaging if a woman had finished, and the guy is not, and if he wants to finish, that would consider rape by many people, and few people would consider that the revoke of consent, you see the double standard here?

Not to mention biologically, male finish way faster than female (including other species too).

Its a discrimination if the biology attribute of one party gets the care and attention, while the biology attribute of the other party is completely disregarded. So are these people saying, the guy should force himself to continue even if he feels extremely uncomfortable after ejaculation? Which wasn't even possible even if he wanted to.

Bojack35 · 2021-08-29T20:07:10+00:00

Yes of course anyone has the right to stop consenting to sex at any time.

However it's also a legitimate complaint if your lover routinely stops once they are 'done' and has no regard for your wishes. It's fair enough to label that as selfish / unsatisfying to the extent you don't want to keep having sex with them.

Morrighan1129 · 2021-08-29T23:05:53+00:00

Because women are taught, or learn, from a young age, that men just 'can't get enough sex'. That men are always thinking about sex, that they're always horny, and ready to go.

To a point where even as an anti-feminist, and MRA supporter, I told my boyfriend one day (when we first got together, eight years ago) that I wished I could walk around without a shirt on when it was hot and the kids weren't home. He laughed and said I could, why wouldn't I be able to? I said because I didn't want to be a tease, I was just hot. He again laughed, and said it was fine, and asked if him walking around in just his boxers made him a tease.

Again, I consider myself very much an anti-feminist, and even I fell for this BS.

So for a lot of women, it seems like a man will always consent, because they're always down to clown, right?

It's absolutely a double standard, and it's something that most girls just grow up accepting.

bob4256 · 2021-08-30T03:13:00+00:00

I don't understand how a person can actually believe a male can't stop having sex whenever he chooses to. All people should be able to decide when to start and stop a sexual experience.

chaveznieves · 2021-08-29T19:06:04+00:00

Because they feel entitled to pleasure. A man should be so happy and grateful to be given the grace and opportunity that he should always oblige. Any lack of desire or performance must mean there's something wrong with him or them. And that's his fault.

Thicc /s

DanteLivra · 2021-08-30T16:41:21+00:00

Because men don't have the privilege of consent.

Consent only applies when man breaks the consent of someone.

These people are retarded, because they buy into that twisted idea of consent.

Neko404 · 2021-08-30T03:21:56+00:00

Couple of reasons. All of which I freely admit are bullshit.

Men always want sex and there for never refuse it.
Sex offered by a woman is a gift and it is wrong to refuse it.
Men are not human beings we are human doings. Nothing about us matter other than what we can do for women and society.

I know I have heard a lot of stories from women about men going ape shit when they refused to sleep with them. Well I know I have more than a few stories to share when refusing a woman and I am sure the majority of men have at least one.

SonOfHibernia · 2021-08-30T15:18:10+00:00

Because we live in a gynocentric world in America. Gynocentric courts, especially family courts. And a gynocentric social structure

Drayelya · 2021-08-29T23:33:38+00:00

They are the same thing and just like men being able to rub one out to avoid blue balls, women can rub one out to finish too.

Beltox2pointO · 2021-08-30T04:48:21+00:00

This has little to nothing to do with consent..

manicraccoon · 2021-08-29T19:20:54+00:00

I think you are conflating two different issues here. Consent is a complicated topic which I won't get into. Two consensual adults usually decide on sex for mutual sexual pleasure. If one person gets it and then leaves the other hanging then I'd say that's mean. There is no breach of consent but of the mutual agreement of providing sexual pleasure to each other. Just saying.

Drayenn · 2021-08-30T11:03:41+00:00

I actually hang on r/sex a bit and theres a truckton of dudes who have no concept of leaving their girl satisfied after they cum. I think its what they are refering at. I see it more as a problem of some guys thinking they can only please with their dick, so if their dicks done they are done. Either that or actual selfish guys.

Of course, if theres an actual situation a guy feels uncomfortable and wants to stop midway, thats fine. But dear god if you cum give your gf extra aftercare if shes not done.

40moreyears · 2021-08-29T20:06:54+00:00

The “these same people” argument should be avoided if possible unless you can show specific examples of the same people saying both things.

IndianaJones_Jr_ · 2021-08-30T00:02:23+00:00

This is not the same thing and it's not a double standard. Revoking consent is, "I'm no longer comfortable having sex with you at this moment". What you're describing is, "I've had my pleasure and I'm no longer interested in helping my partner get theirs".

bluefootedpig · 2021-08-29T19:18:14+00:00

Are the guys stopping because they no longer feel comfortable and safe, or is it because they finished and don't want to anymore? If the latter, I can understand that being an argument. I hope you can understand the difference between stopping midway, and stopping at the end.

Like if you made me dinner, and I eat half and realize the chicken is raw, I might stop the meal for both of us. If I finish the meal, then take your plate because, "im' done", vastly different.

AdhesivenessOk4785 · 2021-08-30T15:25:36+00:00

Idk. Kinda weird how being a misandrist is seen as trendy by some people but misogynists are not.

Then again, there will always be groups of people supporting either side (which are not good). Where are the equal rights people?

Bowler377 · 2021-08-31T02:36:24+00:00

How often do guys have this problem when having sex with guys?

Hellfang1 · 2021-08-30T03:24:49+00:00

You cannot have sex with someone and then decide a few days later you regret it and therefore it is rape. It doesn't work that way. You can regret it but YOU consented and its all history now. Maybe not be dumb?

MercurysonofJupiter · 2021-08-30T15:48:54+00:00

Of course he has a "right" to stop. And their partners have a right to complain about bad sex and people who are bad at it. The women who label men bad, selfish, incompetent lovers aren't arguing they should be forced to be better, just that they are unskilled and uncaring.

MercurysonofJupiter · 2021-08-30T15:48:33+00:00

Of course he has a "right" to stop. And their partners have a right to complain about bad sex and people who are bad at it. The women who label men bad, selfish, incompetent lovers aren't arguing they should be forced to be better, just that they are unskilled and uncaring.

bbyblu666 · 2021-08-30T15:50:54+00:00

you’ve seen this type of comment and of course it does happen. When it does that’s absolutely wrong, either party should be able to revoke consent whenever they feel uncomfortable. If a man stops feeling comfortable of course the woman should immediately respect that and stop. However, as a woman at least in my experience and the experience of many women I know—complaining about a man stopping sex when you haven’t finished is normally directly about the phenomenon of men having sex with women, the man cums, and then sex is over. I’ve had this experience like 99% of the time and most of my friends too and I do think it’s kind of unfair. There’s just an unspoken assumption that when the man finishes sex is over and no attempt to make the woman finish. I think it’s mainly j because men can cum much more easily from PIV while most women need clitoral stimulation to be able to cum, and most men (at least in my personal experience) don’t really bother to figure out what feels good for the women, they’re just done as soon as they get what they wanted out of it. Not that sex can’t be good without orgasm. I’ve had great sex and not cum. But it does get really frustrating when pretty much every man you’re with is either unconcerned or ignorant as to how to make sure you can get there too. Again, I’m not arguing against anything you said in the original post. But when women complain about this a lot of the time this is what they’re referring to specifically.

Title	Revoking consent
Author	zzzsoebre
Upvotes	398
Comments	46
Date	August 29, 2021 6:33 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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