Sad because the whole school thinks I am a creep now

njullpointer · 2018-06-29T17:16:50+00:00

I read it, I'm not sure how to help you, but if there is a person in authority who is supposed to deal with this sort of thing, you have to get your time in front of them.

DavidByron2 · 2018-06-29T18:30:21+00:00

Ask about filing a title IX complain against the school. Your have a right to an equal education and you are being discriminated against because you are male. It's illegal. If you even mention you are thinking of making a complaint then retaliation by the school is another offense.

Splatriarchy · 2018-06-29T17:29:31+00:00

Even young girls are learning from the older women that with these false accusations they can destroy any male they want. Just look how easy it is for them.

Alphonetic · 2018-06-29T17:20:49+00:00

That’s disgusting of them to just believe her without even considering you. Do none of these people know what a lie is? She and any of those “witnesses” easily could have been exaggerating, and the fact that these people use you as a scapegoat is unsurprising but shameful nonetheless.

Wish I could go there and knock some sense into those people. Hopefully, wherever you are, the college you’re applying to will see the potential of it being a misunderstanding. Have you spoken to your parents about the situation?

LabTech41 · 2018-06-29T20:49:00+00:00

If all it takes is one rumor of an incident to turn a teacher against you, then you NEVER really had a rapport with her; she was just maintaining a façade that most women do.

There's no way to sugarcoat this: the system as-is is stacked against you by default and sees you as the enemy, unless you happen to be seen as attractive or useful to them. Understand that basically everything now is meant to cater to women (and increasingly minority women and those seen as 'oppressed').

You found out the hard way that all it takes is one accusation to cause problems. There is no way to really fix this situation, because you're dealing with a group psychosis similar to religious faith, and you ran afoul of a zealot.

Do not expect things to get better or easier in college: the OPPOSITE will be true, because what you're experiencing in high school basically started in college culture and trickled down. The same innocent mistake (which may or may not have even happened) won't get you a bad reputation as a creep; it'll get you branded as a rapist and your life will be ruined.

You're going to have to learn to spend an inordinate amount of time essentially protecting yourself from that possibility. Bottom line: have as little to do with women as you can, because anything could and will be interpreted in the worst possible way by any woman around you, no matter how you think she feels about you.

For what it's worth, the entry process for colleges should still largely be based on merit. If you maintain your grades, you should be fine to qualify for any college or university you want, but bear in mind that every college these days will set aside quotas for women/minorities/disabilities, and that as (I assume) a white guy you won't qualify for any of those slots and will be fighting over the scraps; same goes for scholarships (there ARE a handful of scholarships that have been set up for men, but they're very controversial).

My advice, scholastically speaking, is to be an island and not put yourself in vulnerable situations. Follow the Mike Pence rule: don't be alone with a woman anywhere without another girl there to verify that nothing happened, or have some method of audio/video record. Sounds paranoid, and it is, but there ARE women out there who have it in for men and are just looking to start trouble. Focus on grades and getting your degree, THEN if you want to interact with women feel free; by then you should have the experience and the discipline to have some ability to discern which women won't collapse into a heap of crazy emotional goo.

DreamsOfCleanTeeth · 2018-06-29T18:07:17+00:00

That's horrible dude. Try making some time to discuss this one on one with your Counselor or School Resource Officer (not sure about your school but mine has police officers on campus). If there's a teacher you can still trust I would advise talking with them as well.

Plane_freak · 2018-06-29T18:55:33+00:00

I'm not sure what kind of college you are applying to, but many state universities don't require letters of recommendation or anything like that. Something that I realized around your age was that most people in high school are shallow idiots who love gossip. It doesn't really change a lot after high school, but you have the choice you associate with and what your life becomes. Chase your career and surround yourself with good people, not the shallow idiots. You'll get through it.

Kirei64 · 2018-06-29T19:39:40+00:00

In our days, we can't even help women. When they are helped, people always think it's to have sex with them. It's tragic that most people think we help someone to have a benefit for them. The thing I'll say is pretty cliche, but you need to stay strong. You know that there's only one truth, and that there is only people talking shit about you because they can't do something other than misunderstanding everything. Like some said, you can search for a person in authority who can help you, and I think it's also important to always say the truth about this incident, so that you can erase their false thoughts, and they could probably revise the real situation.

mwobuddy · 2018-06-29T19:55:26+00:00

Man, high school was rampant sex and rich kids when I was going, people who didn't act like accidental brushes were rape. Im so glad Im not there in 2018.

TheShShCreature · 2018-06-29T20:04:16+00:00

Damn dude. Fuck them, Fuck your counselor, and Fuck all the school authority members who won’t even consider your opinion. This is bullying 101 and I know HS kids are just itching to make fun of someone. I hope you’re doing ok, I don’t know how to help exactly, all I can say is work hard in high school and try to get a good life away from these real “creeps” and losers. I haven’t gone through anything like this and I consider myself lucky because of it but I am trying to get into college to be able to be myself, and I hope you can too.

Edit: also Fuck your dumbass inconsiderate psychology teacher for what she did. Hopefully you can tell her that nothing happened and request a new counselor to talk to help your situation. I’ve before seen counselors call up people that are bullying or making fun/ starting rumors about others and talk with them about the truth.

SirSausagePants · 2018-06-29T20:13:12+00:00

You sound like a great guy. I'm sorry this shitty world has treated you like this, but chin up. You're going towards bigger and better things in life, because you work hard for it. I wish I could more than just encourage you. Know that you did nothing wrong, and that people can be real shitty for no reason. Take this as a lesson, and be more careful of who you interact with.

Philip8000 · 2018-06-29T19:17:04+00:00

Had the same thing happen to me at that age. I saw a female classmate that was upset, tried to comfort her by saying she was beautiful. Next thing I know, I'm being accused of harassment. They didn't care about my side or what I had to say; they threatened me with dire consequences. I was threatened with being thrown out of school, or even bringing the police into it. I don't think she actually lied; I'm different and thus, dangerous. Doesn't matter, though; my reputation was in tatters. Sadly, that's not even the worst experience I've had.

I wish there was some kind of reassurance I could give, such as that you know you're innocent and that's all that matters. Unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way. This is precisely the reason a lot of guys are worried about being around women alone: because there's no real defense against accusations.

Italian_Stalian42 · 2018-06-29T19:31:52+00:00

This is such a sad story. Please be strong and keep your chin up. Keep focusing on your long term goals and don’t dread these hiccups. You have to let things that are out of your control be that way and don’t behave like you need to justify yourself. If you were genuinely not creeping on them then that is all you ever have to say and act like. As they say, haters gonna hate. In this case ignorant teenage girls are gonna gossip... and this is something they are very good at so don’t try to fight it. Move on from it and stay above it.

One day you’ll look back and you will realize nearly everyone you knew in high school has moved away for jobs/college/marriage/life in general. You’ll still have your family, your closest friends, and your passion. And believe it or not you’ll have chances to make friends too. Keep those close and you’ll be fine.

Thank you for sharing your story.

rantangstthrowaway · 2018-06-29T22:11:30+00:00

Something similar happened to me.

I was luckier than you, I was the class clown and people liked me.

The Principal believed me and that was that.

You are in a horrible situation, the existence of social media means that this stink will always follow you if you don't solve it now.

I don't know how the laws work in your country, but you can try to sue them for defamation.

Perhaps find a way to talk to the girl privately, get her to admit that she was lying and secretly record it?

I believe you.

I hope we can come together and help this dude.

I'm willing to donate time and money for the cause.

Just know that even if you get into college - this allegation can come up when you're looking for a job or getting married...it doesn't simply go away. Which is why you need to fight it.

Neko404 · 2018-06-29T23:26:17+00:00

It’s only going to get worse before it gets better. If you are off to college you are going to have to deal with this kind of shit there as well.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2018-06-30T00:45:12+00:00

I believe you! I've been falsely accused too but not on this big a scale.

I hope you get some justice little buddy!

And best of luck with getting into College!

hombreliberado · 2018-06-30T07:10:22+00:00

If you feel (at all) like your actions might be creepy, you already lost. Everyone is going to get a creepy vibe from you. That’s where you went wrong in the first place. You questioned yourself.

The fix: 1st remember that people (mostly) forget with time so this will quickly fade even though it’s uncomfortable right now. It will even fade faster if you don’t think about it at all, like it doesn’t matter because it doesn’t.

Next, learn some social tools. Learn how to reframe, flip scripts, and deliberately misunderstand people comically.

A reframe looks like this: “are you trying to feel me up creep!?” “Yeah, um, I’m actually a child of God, ok? And I don’t appreciate your thigh trying to rob my right hand’s virginity” (Said with absolute confidence and convincing disgust to the point of being ridiculous)

You’ll come to understand the other techniques with time. Remember, as a man you continue to rise in sexual value until age 50. These girls peak at 27, they’ll be ahead of you for a while, then they’ll quickly become irrelevant.

Final thought on the “creepy” thing: This is Very Advanced, as in DO NOT TRY THIS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND NOT UNTIL YOU’VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE There are quite a few men, not even very handsome, who know how to walk up to women and literally say “I want to fuck the shit out of you” and it actually works out for them with a pretty high success rate. How creepy is that? Creepier than what you did? Actually, no, what you did was more creepy because your thoughts about the situation made it that way, whether through your unintentional body language or energy. It’s all in how you think about it. So wipe any thought about yourself being a creep completely from your mind.

Hang in there dude ✌️

2018-06-30T08:51:51+00:00

Go to the principle yourself. Tell them that you suspect that someone is spreading false rumours about you. Ask for video evidence, even if there were no cameras. Demand an investigation. These are the things innocent people do when they are falsely accused.

Ask the principle to do something to stop these unsubstantiated rumours. If they participate in spreading them, you have grounds for a civil lawsuit for defamation. Title IX is a little harder, because it's very hard to prove that they are discriminating against you based on gender. They'll claim that they are doing it because you're a creep, not because you're a man.

Ask the principle to bring that girl in the office, so you can confront her in front of witnesses.

Or ignore everyone, tell them to go fuck themselves, and just bide your time until high school is over. Don't worry, you won't see any one of those assholes ever again.

rantangstthrowaway · 2018-06-29T23:12:44+00:00

I'm calling bullshit.

You start helping girls carry their books, are asked to stop because they think you're being creepy, so you decide to help another girl regardless of being told to back off.
Somehow, in trying to take her books, you "accidentally" touched her thighs.

Being called a creep isn't a false accusation. You were acting in a way that people found creepy, and didn't stop after being told to stop. Not every woman wants some guy she doesn't know helping her carry her stuff.

Lethn · 2018-06-29T19:33:25+00:00

If they keep it up suing the person responsible for their lying is an option you should always consider, especially if it gets really bad. If they just leave you alone then I don't know, perhaps that's a blessing if they're cunts at the school you're at anyway.

There have been situations with this sort of thing where people have sued individuals defaming them and have been successful. The damage is still done because this is what self-segregated communities are like but the rest of the world will be more understanding if you legally clear your name.

I guarantee the only reason things are so bad right now is because you're clearly stuck in a shithole school, the school itself will be inevitably looking to get you out of the way in favour of the cunts there. If the teachers are actually trying to ostracise you as well then you could seriously consider taking legal action against them because this is going to affect your livelihood.

I would honestly recommend talking to a lawyer if it's getting really bad.

TheImpossible1 · 2018-06-29T17:31:03+00:00

Women are literally scum.

If we ever take power back, we need to flip the script.

Also, let's start accusing them of shit.

ThrowawayAccountOhYe · 2018-06-29T18:17:16+00:00

Start working out, improve your wardrobe (you can look good without spending heaps on designer shit), get a good haircut and find out what kind of hair products work for you. Practice smiling in the mirror. That’s the easy part- the hard part is acknowledging that this is how the world is- you WILL be judged based on your appearance.

Don’t sweat the highschool bullshit, you’ll get there eventually. As long as you take matters into your own hands.

I realise that I haven’t addressed what you’re currently facing- maybe have a one-on-ones with some of the teachers that you had a good rapport with. Speak up for yourself. Chances are things won’t get better for awhile, but you’ll be out of that shithole soon enough. Just work on what you can- which is yourself.

Also please for the love of god realise that women aren’t fucking angels and that they will throw you under the bus for no discernible reason. You can’t fix them, but you sure as hell can be smarter about how you deal with them.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2018-06-30T00:49:23+00:00

Maybe this Biblical story can bring you comfort that false accusations have been happening to men for thousands of years!

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This is a biblical story about false accusations happened 1544 BC

so it's not a new phenomena.

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Here is the full story copied from: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2039&version=NIV

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Genesis 39: Joseph and Potiphar’s Wife (NIV)

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39 Now Joseph had been taken down to Egypt. Potiphar, an Egyptian who was one of Pharaoh’s officials, the captain of the guard, bought him from the Ishmaelites who had taken him there.

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2 The Lord was with Joseph so that he prospered, and he lived in the house of his Egyptian master.

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3 When his master saw that the Lord was with him and that the Lord gave him success in everything he did,

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4 Joseph found favor in his eyes and became his attendant. Potiphar put him in charge of his household, and he entrusted to his care everything he owned.

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5 From the time he put him in charge of his household and of all that he owned, the Lord blessed the household of the Egyptian because of Joseph. The blessing of the Lord was on everything Potiphar had, both in the house and in the field.

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6 So Potiphar left everything he had in Joseph’s care; with Joseph in charge, he did not concern himself with anything except the food he ate.

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7 Now Joseph was well-built and handsome, and after a while his master’s wife took notice of Joseph and said, “Come to bed with me!” 8 But he refused. “With me in charge,” he told her, “my master does not concern himself with anything in the house; everything he owns he has entrusted to my care.

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9 No one is greater in this house than I am. My master has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do such a wicked thing and sin against God?”

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10 And though she spoke to Joseph day after day, he refused to go to bed with her or even be with her.

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11 One day he went into the house to attend to his duties, and none of the household servants was inside.

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12 She caught him by his cloak and said, “Come to bed with me!” But he left his cloak in her hand and ran out of the house.

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13 When she saw that he had left his cloak in her hand and had run out of the house,

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14 she called her household servants. “Look,” she said to them, “this Hebrew has been brought to us to make sport of us! He came in here to sleep with me, but I screamed.

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15 When he heard me scream for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”

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16 She kept his cloak beside her until his master came home.

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17 Then she told him this story: “That Hebrew slave you brought us came to me to make sport of me.

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18 But as soon as I screamed for help, he left his cloak beside me and ran out of the house.”

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19 When his master heard the story his wife told him, saying, “This is how your slave treated me,” he burned with anger.

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20 Joseph’s master took him and put him in prison, the place where the king’s prisoners were confined. But while Joseph was there in the prison,

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21 the Lord was with him; he showed him kindness and granted him favor in the eyes of the prison warden.

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22 So the warden put Joseph in charge of all those held in the prison, and he was made responsible for all that was done there.

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23 The warden paid no attention to anything under Joseph’s care, because the Lord was with Joseph and gave him success in whatever he did.

Mynameisxyz226 · 2018-06-29T20:31:32+00:00

I think you are clearly in the wrong. May have touched her thighs? Really? Fuck off dude. Your perverted hands must have grabbed her pussy. Too much evidence against you. You are literally saying you 'help' women pick up books, that's the excuse most Rapists give. I hate false false accusations. I think you are lying or you have a mental disorder which makes you have a false reality,get help asap.

MuslimsLikeRape · 2018-06-29T20:35:05+00:00

Solution.

Title	Sad because the whole school thinks I am a creep now
Author	rantangstthrowaway
Upvotes	119
Comments	57
Date	June 29, 2018 3:40 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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