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London: Middle-aged white men win sexism case after company addressed gender pay gap

BrokeMacMountain

October 7, 2021
655 upvotes
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https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/23/london-middle-aged-white-men-win-sexism-case-after-company-addressed-gender-pay-gap-14976524/
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Title London: Middle-aged white men win sexism case after company addressed gender pay gap
Author

BrokeMacMountain

Upvotes 655
Comments 37
Date October 7, 2021 3:08 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q3b4vj/london_middleaged_white_men_win_sexism_case_after/
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Comments

[–]tenchineuro 158 points159 points160 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

  • Later, Mr Bayfield sent an email to a boss saying: ‘I found out recently JWT did a talk off site where it vowed to obliterate white, middle-class straight people from its creative department. There are a lot of very worried people down here.’

Looks like their concerns were warranted.

  • It’s understood the advertising firm plans to appeal the decision.

[–]HPUnicorn 111 points112 points113 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We do not tolerate any form of discrimination or harassment and are committed to providing an inclusive workplace in which everyone is treated fairly.

This is a statement from the company. There was a word that I have never heard before so I went to the company website to look i t up.

Sarcasm ahead:

From the company website under definitions

"EVERYONE" meaning all people except Straight White Men

[–]McFeely_Smackup 263 points264 points265 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

The company was embarrassed by their "gender pay gap", presumably because the high paying positions were mostly filled by men, and the lowest paying positions filled by women.

They COULD have addressed it by paying the lower positions more. But that costs money. Another way to address it is to fire highly paid men and hire women into those positions...this is what they chose to do. Because it costs net zero.

These men were literally fired because of their gender, to solve an imaginary problem.

[–]auMatech 115 points116 points117 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

to solve an imaginary problem.

Also so that they could pat themselves on the back for being 'progressive' or woke, and to try and cash in via virtue signalling

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] 85 points86 points87 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These men were literally fired because of their gender, to solve an imaginary problem.

Feminism in a nut shell

[–]riot_ball 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So just the rich exploiting the middle class again

[–]someone_butnoone 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

No, exploiting only men

[–]riot_ball 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

And what of the men and the women in the lower levels who weren't given the better jobs or a raise? They could've raised the wages, but instead they went the easy way out, which just happened to screw the men over. This way, they kept us fighting against women, while the rich laughed all the way to the bank.

[–]someone_butnoone 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol no. Dont come up with conspiracy theories like these. The gender pay gap fallacy addresses only that men have an unfair advantage, any attempt at "solving" it will affect only men as it would be women who are paid more instead for no reason. The ones below, nothing will change

[–]riot_ball 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean you just repeated what I just said. Thanks ig

[–]j0k3ricu 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If the company pays more for low skilled workers, there will always be a person who is ready to get paid less and do the work.

Competing companies will get the advantage and run the company out business.

Also increasing the minimum wage for every one is only going to inflate the prices comparably, leading to net zero positive outcome.

The best option is to reduce the " gender earnings gap"(gender wage gap doesn't exist) is to bring value addition to products and services. Value addition by using female centric skill set, like people skills, lifestyle, art, etc.

James Damore pointed this out in detail with evidence in his papers. But it didn't fit the #MenAreEvil narrative, so he got fired. His paper was called misogynistic.

[–]Drekalo 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, it actually saves them money, as they likely hired those women into those positions at a discount. Just like their other underpaid women.

[–]j0k3ricu 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are not underpaid workers are underpaid.

[–]Acrobatic_Sport_7664 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why was this person not terminated for gross breaches of policy. Surely they have an equal ops policy?

[–]FoolJones 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The gender pay gap they're referencing is the gap between a high paying role and a low one? Because OBVIOUSLY there's a gap.

[–]TheRkhaine 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The sad part is whenever I hear companies talk about being inclusive, it's inclusive to everyone...unless you're a cishet white male. If you are one of those, your opinions and feelings are invalid for the sake of equity. I can only speak from a US point of view but the labor laws, when it comes to discrimination, seem to be similar.

[–]az226 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s growing in other western countries too

[–]Kindly-Town 59 points60 points61 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Jo Wallace said she wanted to ‘obliterate’ the firm’s reputation of being full of straight, white men

And this is why companies should hire talented women who has common interest of uplifting the company's growth, not just any woman who has destructive agenda. Hiring such women also undermine the talent and hard work of those women who were hired based on their merit.

Imagine how shitty it would feel to skilled women if they see incoming flood of women who are no where near to their skills but are being paid in the same salary band.

She herself is white but she quietly absorbed herself from the accountability as if being white doesn't apply on her.

[–]Ezekias1337 88 points89 points90 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I find it hilarious when these white women try to act like they aren't privileged.

In fact, there's nothing more powerful than the tears of a white woman. RIP Emmet Till

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's too bad CCTV wasn't around in Emmet's day.

In 2018 a white woman called the police on a 9 year old black boy for sexually assaulting her. The shop's CCTV proved her accusation false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w1OKaFxRqw

[–]Ezekias1337 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But we have to #believeallwomen, women never lie! 😂

[–]Angryasfk 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I remember that. It was absolutely disgusting!!!

[–]pfizerface 54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are literally the most privileged on earth.

You'll usually find them in a local coffee shop, working part time on 80k as a consultant or manager.

They've never faced a hard day in their lives. A bad day for her was running out of organic carrots or gluten free bread.

[–]Omegatron8 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Horseshoe theory.

They're more sexist than the people they pretend to be better than

[–]BrokeMacMountain[S] 69 points70 points71 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At least there may some progress.

But still, this company hired a woman to adress sexism.... and she got rid of the straight white men.

That makes her, sexist, recist and.... hetrophobic. (not sure if hetrophobic is a real word, but it should be)

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem is "equality" rarely means actual equality. In practice it generally just means white men who have done nothing wrong being discriminated against just so the company can have more women.

[–]slipkid223 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

More proof that "Diversity" is about ending Straight White Males

[–]g1455ofwater 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

These type of stories are some of the most hope inducing. Thank you to these guys for making a difference. Hopefully no funny business happens with the appeal.

[–]vwatchrepair 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Racism and sexism is in low supply and high demand. More and more "Juicy Smollett" cases as time goes on. Gotta love it.

[–]rainbow_bro_bot 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not a good era to be born a white male.

[–]someone_butnoone 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men from this company need to abandon it and get a job at a different company

[–]coldHgamerxye 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I am gonna act gay when I get a job so if I get fired for a stupid reason like this I can get a discrimination case more easily

[–]someone_butnoone 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'd rather be broke and shit than act gay and be someone i am not

[–]coldHgamerxye 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair

[–]Tmomp 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Call me out of touch, but I still like equality between the sexes. It's worth working for.

[–]RegularRick0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder how long I will be before straight white men are 3rd class citizens

[–]Specific-Pea2293 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Straight white manExists

Activists* And I took that personally*

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