(F) Why is it that as more men have sex with a woman she loses dignity

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-03-19T02:34:03+00:00

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olimpiandacho · 2022-03-19T01:45:32+00:00

Because chastity has always been through out history and all cultures a necessary virtue for women.

You will get all sorth of feminist responses here but it is like that for obvious reasons.

Before they come for me have all the sex you want but don't complain when most men don't want to have a relationship with you.

jayval90 · 2022-03-19T02:05:16+00:00

And yet I have never had an interest in hearing a man's "number"

Men and women are different. It really is that simple. Men (for a myriad of very traditional-sounding reasons) prefer women with lower or zero previous experience. Women (for reasons that I don't understand) don't seem to care about men's previous experience, and in fact sometimes even prefer more experienced men. This has unfortunate implications when it comes to sexual behavior.

What makes it okay to dehumanise someone for not staying within parameters.

A woman is not less human if she is less sexually desirable. A human is not less human if they are less sexually desirable. This attitude of yours points at a deep-seated bigotry against undesirable people. I would suggest not throwing accusations at others while you equate sexual desire and humanization.

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-03-19T01:43:42+00:00

I've never cared about how many people someone has fucked. But I will happily judge someone for having unsafe or irresponsible sex.

Consumer31314 · 2022-03-19T02:39:25+00:00

The number of sexual partners a woman has is directly correlated with infidelity. That’s why men care about it for relationships, but I don’t see guys give a shit outside of that. We evolved to dislike promiscuity because it’s evolutionarily advantageous to be less likely raising someone else’s kid.

Women on the other hand are more judgmental about this in my opinion. Women will spread rumours or tell real secrets to damage another woman’s reputation. I’m guessing it’s to give themselves a competitive edge by putting other women’s SMV down.

Would it be nicer if we weren’t shaming slutty behaviour? In a perfect world I suppose, but this world isn’t perfect.

Guitar-Master9891 · 2022-03-19T03:51:20+00:00

Dude here. Also, with a high (really high) number.

1) Because male insecurity. Dick size, stamina, performance, body shape, not being able to meassure up, being constantly compared. You name it. Women think this is the biggest reasson (and even the only one) but it's not often the case. Though, it does hold some truth to it.

2) Because of image. This is my case, for example. Even promiscuous men don't want to be seen walking holding hands with promiscuous women. This is a huge one. Men know other men look down on men who date slutty girls or trash talk about them on their backs. They think you are, basically, a conscious cuck. Even if you are not, even if you are the most confident, self-suficient Chad around, dating a slutty girl makes you look bad. People won't respect you, and for men who want to command respect this can take a major tool in their social life.

3) Because of status. Same with image, but also tied to success. There is no sense of acomplishment in commiting to a woman every man in the room could have but choses not to.

4) Because of the emotional burden. Lets face it, high n-count girls often are full of flags. They are always in defense mode because of their past failed relationships, you have to work harder to prove you are not like all the men she has previously been with, you never know wether she's going to stay or will fly away, they are quite unstable, have unhealthy manners... They are more complicated than women with less experience simply because they have been burned more.

5) Because of the sex. Yeah, it's a cliché but on the other hand... It's not. The more promiscuous a woman has been the more chances she has run into a douchebag who did some stuff with her she doesn't want to repeat because she felt used, abused, forced, etc.

6) Simply because of the different ways women and men aproach sex and how that dynamic plays in the way women and men see their experiences. And this is important to understand, because it's a huge difference between high n-count men and high n-count women: Women with high n-counts have been dumped a lot, men with high n-counts did the dumping. That impacts greatly in the way they see the opposite sex.

7) Last but not least, because women feel threatened by promiscuous women. That's why slutshaming exist in the first place. There is no benefit for men to slutshame women, we get sex from them, and it's better for us to know which woman is promiscuous and which one is not. Female promiscuity is only armfull to other women, since it lowers the value of sex and offer men easy access to it. All the women I've dated had problems with my female friends, not because they didn't trust me (women know they can't trust men, any men for that matter) but because my girl friends are quite promiscuous.

IHuntSmallKids · 2022-03-19T01:58:38+00:00

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4939-0314-6_1

“When women pursue short-term mates, they appear to increase their selectivity in mate choice and desire men who possess cues to “good genes.”

approximately half of women in the top quintiles of sociosexuality had been sexually unfaithful to a steady partner; this was more than a tenfold increase over the corresponding rate for people in the bottom quintiles.

Bailey, J. M., Kirk, K. M., Zhu, G., Dunne, M. P., & Martin, N. G. (2000). Do individual differences in sociosexuality represent genetic or environmentally contingent strategies? Evidence from the Australian twin registry. Journal of personality and social psychology, 78(3), 537–545. https://doi.org/10.1037//0022-3514.78.3.537

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In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner,

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Regarding the correlates of infidelity, results indicated that on the basis of both methods of assessment, the probability of sexual infidelity increased with higher number of lifetime sexual partners

Whisman, M. A., & Snyder, D. K. (2007). Sexual infidelity in a national survey of American women: Differences in prevalence and correlates as a function of method of assessment. Journal of Family Psychology, 21(2), 147–154. https://doi.org/10.1037/0893-3200.21.2.147

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Our findings demonstrate that infidelity and number of sexual partners are both under moderate genetic influence (41% and 38% heritable, respectively) and the genetic correlation between these two traits is strong (47%). The resulting genetic correlation between the two traits was .47, so nearly half the genes impacting on infidelity also affect number of sexual partners. The correlation of the unique environment between the two variables was .48.

Cherkas, L., Oelsner, E., Mak, Y., Valdes, A., & Spector, T. (2004). Genetic Influences on Female Infidelity and Number of Sexual Partners in Humans: A Linkage and Association Study of the Role of the Vasopressin Receptor Gene (AVPR1A). Twin Research, 7(6), 649-658. doi:10.1375/twin.7.6.649

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A truism in psychology is that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. This is no less true in the realm of sexual behavior. Indeed, one of the strongest predictors of marital infidelity is one’s number of prior sex partners (Buss, 2000). Deception about past sexual promiscuity would have inflicted greater costs, on average, on men than on women

Haselton, M. G., Buss, D. M., Oubaid, V., & Angleitner, A. (2005). Sex, Lies, and Strategic Interference: The Psychology of Deception Between the Sexes. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 31(1), 3–23. https://doi.org/10.1177/0146167204271303

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Sexual promiscuity was significantly positively correlated with emotional promiscuity [r(356) = .261, p < .001], as well with sexual infidelity [r(323) = .595, p < .001] and emotional infidelity [r(323) = .676, p < .001], indicating that sexually promiscuous participants also tend to be emotionally promiscuous, and sexual[ly] and emotional[ly] unfaithful. In terms of the sexual domain, results showed that there is also a positive correlation between sexual promiscuity and sexual infidelity, stating that individuals that tend to be more sexually promiscuous also tend to be more sexually unfaithful. These results support our second hypothesis.

Pinto R., Arantes J. (2016). The Relationship between Sexual and Emotional Promiscuity and Infidelity in Proceedings of the Athens: ATINER’S Conference Paper Series, No: PSY2016-2087, Athens, 10.30958/ajss.4-4-3

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Number of pre-marital partners: percent who cheated once married

• ⁠2: 10.4% • ⁠3: 14.9% • ⁠4: 17.7% • ⁠5: 21.6% • ⁠6-10: 26.0% • ⁠11-20: 36.7% • ⁠21+: 46.8%

NORC General Social Survey. (2011, October 02). Female Infidelity Based on Number of Premarital Partners — Statistic Brain. Retrieved July 5, 2015, from http://www.statisticbrain.com/percent-of-female-infidelity-based-on-number-of-premarital-partners/

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Contrary to the myth, partners who’ve had many partners have a harder, not easier, time remaining monogamous. They are significantly more at risk of straying than those with little or no prior sexual experience.

Staik, A., PhD. (2019, March 28). 10 Predictors of Infidelity and Gender Differences: Why Do Partners Cheat? Retrieved July 15, 2020, from https://blogs.psychcentral.com/relationships/2014/08/a-look-at-infidelity-why-do-partners-cheat/

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For people in this survey who reported four or fewer lifetime sexual partners, the rate of infidelity in the current marriage dropped to 11%, while for those who had five or more sexual partners the number was nearly double (21%). The break between the 54% of people who had five or more lifetime sexual partners vs. the 46% who had four or fewer total partners illustrates the lessons from the study. This breakpoint is validated by the fact that when asked straight out, 68% of those with more sexual partners in their pasts agreed that, “I am always faithful to my sexual partner” (whether currently married or single), compared to 82% of those with fewer sexual partners who said the same.

[I]nfidelity is also often the fruit of a lifelong approach to mating that involves seeking and practicing short-term mating encounters that encourage sexual variety at all stages and into marriage.

McQuivey, J. L., PhD. (2019, October 14). The Road to Infidelity Passes Through Multiple Sexual Partners. Retrieved July 16, 2020, from https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-road-to-infidelity-passes-through-multiple-sexual-partners-

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[T]here was a correlation between female pre-marital promiscuity and higher rates of divorce. The research, conducted by Jay Teachman, found that women with 16 or more sexual partners prior to marriage had an 80% rate of subsequent divorce.

Wikipedia contributors. (2020, June 20). Female promiscuity. In Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. Retrieved 12:06, July 27, 2020, from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Female_promiscuity&oldid=963578370 Teachman, J. (2003), Premarital Sex, Premarital Cohabitation, and the Risk of Subsequent Marital Dissolution Among Women. Journal of Marriage and Family, 65: 444-455. doi:10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x

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SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-03-19T01:54:00+00:00

Because of jealousy. Men don't want the possibility of the woman they potentially marry/LTR to have fucked higher SMV men.

Women feel the same way when they find out about high n count men, they just don't have to deal with the added insecurity of dick size.

Me personally: I think a normal amount of partners is ok but I would consider anything 15+ a RMV hit. Some dudes here are like "gotta be a virgin" which I think is dumb.

Pola_Lita · 2022-03-19T02:22:50+00:00

We're all taught to objectify women. Men a lot more, but women as well.

Part of objectification includes a lack of recognition of natural sexuality. We caricaturize women without even realizing it.

We estimate her worth based on how well she serves male sexual gratification rather than how well she manages her own life on her own terms.

It's changing though and it will continue to change. Women weren't always in a position to argue - it was agree and conform or you will probably have an awful life. Every day, more and more women are becoming independent and aren't stuck with that situation.

This will also do men a lot of good though I think there's still a good amount who can't see it.

It will happen.

doMEaSOLid_reddit · 2022-03-19T13:16:03+00:00

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2022-03-19T02:29:24+00:00

Misogyny is a vile disease

sarkington · 2022-03-19T02:01:30+00:00

Because women are usable sex objects, in this worldview

The more use, the less value

olimpiandacho · 2022-03-19T02:04:12+00:00

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