working class men [story time]

Bryan_Side_Account · 2022-03-19T03:09:00+00:00

I’ve felt this as well, as a college educated person who has worked working class jobs. It feels like working class people have some degree of conflict tolerance when it comes to political beliefs, meanwhile middle class liberals actively ostracize even their friends over minor disagreements and perceived slights.

I’m tired.

Deadlocked02 · 2022-03-19T00:50:33+00:00

Academic spaces are not really as diverse as people people in academia like to believe, the same way diversity of existence and thought can often flourish in places frequented by people of lower income and with less formal education. A similar dynamic can sometimes be observed between left and right as well. Despite priding itself of its diversity, I get the felling that diversity of thought is much less welcomed in left-leaning spaces than it is in right wing ones these days. That doesn’t mean people in right wing spaces will agree with everything you say, but I feel they’re less inclined to feel threatened by people talking about beliefs that are incompatible with theirs in their own spaces, whereas leftist more often than not treat opposing beliefs as if they’re infectious.

Ausiwandilaz · 2022-03-19T11:02:26+00:00

I was a dishwasher and worked my way out of the pit to prep cook. Whole Foods bought out the company, and then started harassing all the men there that were the best male workers, very quickly the best men quit. they even turned the GM into a couteousy clerk, while all the really shitty low female bosses were promoted.

Eventually they came for me and I was accused of a an action i didnt commit, a lie, surrounded and bullied by 3 female bosses in a tiny dark office. 3 sessions there, I defended myself but even the most reasonable one took to this new matriarch,

I was demoted back to the dish pit and replaced by a woman with no experience and I still had to sharpen her knives(because she didnt know how to). I still gave them 2 week notice when I quit. But soon after they eliminated all the men, including the lead in that kitchen.

I feel so glad Karma hit them in the face, because they closed the store less than a year later.

This is also why I support Male Advocacy, and I literally can not undo the trauma I faced as an ambitious young adult. It also ruined my relationship with my GF at the time because it enraged me, and I stopped taking initiative to care for her.

peanutbutterjams · 2022-03-19T03:26:05+00:00

I miss people for standing up for what they believe in, rather than being concerned about how they are seen.

First, for you: visit a senior's centre. I spent a lot of time with seniors and most if not all are refreshingly unconcerned with how other people see them and speaking frankly.

I think it would be good for your soul / spirit / mind / whatever it is that was being nourished by the vitality of humanity you experienced among people bonded by class circumstances.

As someone who's also worked "blue collar" jobs (working with your hands), spending time with seniors is a close second to that kind of camaraderie.

Secondly, god yes. I miss people being real instead of clothing themselves in an advertisement for what they wished they were be.

Social media has helped us to dehumanize ourselves and it's what fully automated the weaponization of feminism and identity politics.

If I'm being honest, I find it hard to believe that the current atomization of the human race is accidental since it so perfectly suits the needs of the rich and the powerful.

Constant disruptive change ensures people cannot find their footing long enough to create conscious, meaningful change.

Like introducing "gender neutral" language into Germany. With all of the world's problem, how is this a priority?

However, certain people will gain from it.

Some professors will make their career on this. Lawyers can jump in the mix. LGBT groups can raise funds over it. Newspaper and websites; eyes and clicks.

There's a lot of personal power to be gained even though it's to the detriment of society. This immorality is justified by making the cause more morally righteous than it actually is.

This is why these outrages are always spoken of in hyperbole, wild claims with no evidence, leaps of logic and flights of fantasy: because there's so little substance to the claim.

There's personal power, though, so as long as we allow a society-wide suspension of reason, logic, critical thought and empathy (oh you know - just the foundations of every western liberal democracy), so long as we stuff the only ways with which we have create a relatively ordered, peaceful and equitable society, stuff it WAAAAY down deep until its pitiful sobs can only be heard in the quiet of the night - and only then... sure, German gendered language makes a ton of sense.

If we don't allow that, however, if we do hold to reason, logic, critical thought and empathy, then that source of personal power is shut off and it's one less opportunity for the parasites in every community.

Unfortunately for us all what I'm describing here is the difference between a religious society and a rational society.

We still live in a fundamentally religious society. There was not enough positive pressure from secularism to resist us falling back into religious frames of mind when stressed by the needs of modern society.

As long as reason doesn't rule the day, we can't say we live in a rational society.

Meanwhile: "Women are the primary victims of war." and "Let's de-gender the German language."

Nope. Not a rational society. That's a society that still uses emotion-based logic.

CoffeehasSentience · 2022-03-19T20:43:20+00:00

Coming from blue-collar family, maybe it's my uprising but I find a lot of the academic people very fake and "social proofing" focused. Like they just understand poverty from an academic sense or "tourism", so to speak. A lot of times when the mask goes off you can see a lot of them clearly feel superior to people with less education.

a-man-from-earth · 2022-03-19T01:21:55+00:00

There's an infamous saying: the Left eats its own.

Man_of_culture_112 · 2022-03-19T09:02:13+00:00

"A hardcore rightwing neo-nazi " - That's a no-no

Title	working class men [story time]
Author	LoveTheGiraffe
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Comments	22
Date	March 18, 2022 11:51 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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