I post this as often the debate we have relates to toxic extreme feminism. I would like to float the notion that men are too narrowly defined by modern views of us held by a lot of women. My post is not anti women at all-just that I think we need to consider wider attitudes, such as those of many women, when it comes to us trying to change narrow strict views of Men, and in promoting mens rights.

In most societies, women still expect men to lay down their lives for any women, expect that men can be verbally abused by women and just take and take and take it without it costing us, expect us to still be the cash machine or ATM, expect us to lay down when it comes to access to our kids.

We need change.