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REP. CHIP ROY: You Will Not Draft My Daughter

JannTosh12

June 23, 2022
105 upvotes
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https://www.toddstarnes.com/politics/rep-chip-roy-you-will-not-draft-my-daughter/
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Title REP. CHIP ROY: You Will Not Draft My Daughter
Author

JannTosh12

Upvotes 105
Comments 45
Date June 23, 2022 2:35 PM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/viyd2j/rep_chip_roy_you_will_not_draft_my_daughter/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/rep-chip-roy-you-will-not-draft-my-daughter.1120313
https://theredarchive.com/post/1120313
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[–]JannTosh12[S] 55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Chip Roy would gladly throw a disabled or old man into combat before an able bodied woman

[–]veedub447 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There are no male exceptions for selective service, every male between the ages of 18 and 25 must register, doesn't mater if you have no legs, no arms, we are legally required to register.

But this is interesting from the Selective Service. gov web site : "US citizens or immigrants who are born male and changed their gender to female are still required to register. Individuals who are born female and changed their gender to male are not required to register."

[–]DirtyPartyMan 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“Ovaries will set you free”?

So says the Gynocentric Society.

[–]NeoNotNeo 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

His daughter is working on her brand. Or dealing with her emotional labor.

It’s all about the breeders. The sperm providers are disposable

[–]throwaway20210821 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Don't let them fool you, it's all about privileging women and disenfranchising men because these people (who aren't everyone in the world mind you) simply have no empathy for men.

In Ukraine where post menopausal women are allowed to escape but youthful men aren't? In countries where there is draft registration or some form of mandatory military service where infertile men are forced to fight because of being male but infertile women aren't? Women that are more physically fit that are allowed to escape while less physically fit men are forced to stay because they are male?

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No the logic doesn't add up at all, the excuse of "breeding" is just the excuse. None of these politicians cared when parental alienation of fathers was being applauded and carried out by the state. None of these people cared when fathers were separated from their families if they failed to pay child support, which led to broken families. None of these people cared so about opposing abortion except in a religious sense, not really for protecting unborn life. None of these people cared about stopping child abuse by mothers. It's not about children or safeguarding the next generation, it's about women. "Women and children" is just codeword for women. More women than children survived aboard the Titanic. Inserting children into the justification is just about using children to favor women, not about helping children or families.

Even if there were even less arguments in favor of this setup to encourage breeding, ensure some form of 'ideal gender ratio' or 'protection of the family unit' (the arguments of which are highly rooted in pop culture interpretations of what is considered acceptable and also pushed by PUAs thoroughly opposed to men's rights, not actual science), it would make no difference to what these kind of anti-male politicians and commenters would push for. It's all about privileging women and disenfranchising men, there is no other logic in it.

[–]JannTosh12[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you think some people care more about women than even children?

[–]throwaway20210821 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Because imo to them it's not about children. Children can't provide them with a good feeling compared to how women can. It's purely emotional. Even recently tradcon leaning people like Bill Maher have said (it was a fairly recent episode) that given the choice between a woman and a child in the abortion debate, they are going with the woman because they simply "like women" and that's what people that like women do.

Essentially it just comes down to that they like women and being around women more than being around children, so they care about women's survival more. I have seen this myself both IRL and on mainstream reddit subs, for all the talk about caring about children, people only usually use children as moral shields, children (specifically male children) are just accessories to them.

Evidence of some people wanting to be around women more than children is that they are willing to have children in hopes that a woman sticks around, without much care for those children they bring into the world, who they use as a bargaining method to get a woman to stay with them.

Controversial to say (and I didn't want to say it, but you did ask why it might be the situation that some people seem to care about women more than children) but this does need to be acknowledged if people want to honestly understand why there are people (but importantly again, not all people) that care about women more than children and try to carry out this view through actions. And importantly, it needs to be acknowledged to show this caring for women is largely socialized and out of personal preference and lack of empathy for people who are not women or girls, not so much out of 'biology'.

That way, the case also becomes more clear to people that do have empathy for men that politicians that demonstrate profound lack of empathy for men need to be voted out and are not acting on some kind of higher 'moral' or 'biological' instinct or guidance to 'protect the family/the survival of the human species' like they are desperately trying to make others believe.

[–]ignatztempotypo 26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The simping is strong with this one.

[–]There-is-No-Beyond 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How can you stand for equality and special treatment at the same time...>one word "feminism"<

[–]ABCAJB 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Conservatives are the reason why we still do not have equality in this as they are the ones who are trying to stop the expansion of the selective service to everyone from becoming law.

[–]omega-falcon 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There should be no draft at all.

[–]mindset_grindset 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yes, but there always will be when it comes down to it

therefore if women are really equal then they have to be willing to be part of that last resort

if they're not willing to sacrifice their lives for their country in a last resort then they're not an equal to men. they're privileged above men and always have been.

the draft exposes this fundamental truth. feminists hate to admit the fundamental truth that at the end of the day every man they call an oppressor would go to war to die to protect them- they know they should be grateful and deserve to at the very least show respect and appreciation for that fact like women used to when wars on our soil was more common- and at most they simply shouldn't vote or be eligible for commander in chief .

you can't get a say for who a nation fights if you're not gonna be fighting. and you can't lead an army you wouldn't fight in, that's the American way of free men. even slaves earned their freedom from fighting for it. feminists got jealous that the slaves got it and said they want those rights too for free.

war and racism is what bore feminism. white women formed feminism bc they said their vote would suppress the negros newly acquired vote to assist white supremacy. never forget that.

[–]throwaway20210821 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Chip Roy has previously said this:

Roy said there are already thousands of women who volunteer to serve in the armed services and would continue to do so if the U.S. entered another war.

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He further pointed to the roughly 17 million men of "draft-registration age," who along with 60 million men ages 18-49 would be able to take up arms if a global campaign broke out.

has falsely claimed that if both men and women are drafted, "fathers and sons stay home",

has not done anything to get rid of military drafting or selective service altogether,

is completely okay with drafting men in any global war he might vote for, and

is completely okay with men facing fines, being imprisoned, being denied access to financial aid, being denied access to employment as a result of failing to register and being prevented from leaving the country in the even that Congress declares war.

Chip Roy is part of what is wrong with politics and a politician that helps push disenfranchisement of men and encourages treating women as above the law.

Everyone that lives in his district (21st congressional district of Texas) that is eligible to vote should vote for the frontrunner running against him (so as to not split the vote) in the November 8, 2022 general election.

https://ballotpedia.org/Texas%27_21st_Congressional_District_election,_2022

You need to have your voter registration application submitted to the county registrar at least 30 days (i.e. about 1 month) before the General Election on November 8 in order to vote in that election, as per Texas laws

https://www.texas.gov/living-in-texas/texas-voter-registration/

[–]63daddy 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So many good points.

I liked that you mentioned this isn’t just about being drafted, but is linked to so many other rights. People often don’t realize that.

A judge ruled exempting women is unconstitutional. Congress knows this and is consciously deciding not to enforce the constitution.

[–]throwaway20210821 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, that was a lower court judge in Texas, but along the way a higher court citing Rostker v. Golberg (a 1981 case that upheld male only SSS registration mainly because women weren't allowed in combat positions then unlike now) as a way of trying to stall the case against male only SSS (possibly with help of the DOJ and Biden appointed solicitor general Elizabeth Prelogar encouraging SCOTUS not to hear the case), and then Obama appointed justice Sotomayor making the decision to send the issue to Congress where it's being politicized by republicans in the House and Senate and where Senate republicans filibustered the cloture vote in the 2021 NDAA to get rid of the provision last time: have all been impeding a resolution to this.

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Both Congress and the Supreme Court have show far shown they are trying to stall progress on this issue particularly if nobody will notice it. That's something the NCFM needs to keep in mind too, that both the legislative and judicial branch are irresponsibly treating this issue with lack of seriousness and it shows how much men's rights organizations and their supporters are going to have highlight (especially on social media) and not allow this kind of carelessness to go unchallenged, specifically if there are more lawsuits they are planning to bring in the future.

[–]Beat_navy 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So what if fathers and sons stay home? They do so now. A mother can't be a good servicemember? A father can't hold down the fort at home?

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I checked the 2020 us census data which says 70.526 million males 18-49. Makes me wonder if he had some kind of adjustment that discounted 10 million of them. Seems like there probably would be more that wouldn’t be fit for combat. Probably 25% are obese and it would take a year just to get them in shape.

[–]throwaway20210821 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The politicians that make this decision (just like in the past) will send any male into harm's way if it comes down to it. There is recent evidence of this from politicians like Jerry Nadler saying "if a country needs people (to fight wars) it needs people". Disabled men have historically been forced to hand out supplies on the front line where they are regarded as acceptable targets because of this (remember that when feminists claim that demanding voting come with equal obligations such as signing up for selective service discriminates against disabled people, even though disabled men are already required to put their lives on the line in the event of war even if it isn't recognized that way or the SSS lies by omission that it's a safe form of 'alternative non combated related service').

Obesity or "not making it past basic training" is a non argument by feminists to try to downplay the severity of a male only draft. If politicians decide to while there is still a male only draft, there is nothing stopping them from relaxing requirements and sending as many men into battle as possible. It happened in the Vietnam War and happens specifically even today in any war that drags on long enough or that is deemed crucial to securing geopolitical interests by politicians (such as the current proxy war in Ukraine).

[–]McFeely_Smackup 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Coddling women like they were helpless children is the one idea both liberals and conservatives agree on.

[–]Fearless-File-3625 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Something male dominated that is desirable -> "Strong independent women can do everything better 😠 future is female 😠 ...."

Something male dominated that is undesirable -> "How can you do this to weak and helpless women 🥺 it's a MANS job 😒 ... "

[–]Expensive_Quiet3716 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ya its the same for hard labor in general

[–]Koda1214 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sexist neanderthal. I'm gobsmacked that the feminists are not out in their droves trying to cancel this guy. Every one knows women are just as capable as any man. Heck, thay would probably win the war.

[–]TheRabid 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

They could save on weapons and just give them microphones to nag the other team to death. I keed!

[–]OrangeBerry97 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The next generation of sonic weapons.

[–]63daddy 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

While it’s typically been liberals who have led the charge in advantaging women, this issue makes it clear conservatives are quite happy to as well.

When it comes to equal rights for men, neither party is supportive.

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Something I realized is that chivalry paved the way for feminism. I think it would have had a lot harder time in a theoretical civilization that had maintained a long history of egalitarianism.

[–]CanComplex8695 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Liberals and conservatives work together to oppress men.

Liberals control the culture which empowers feminism and anti-male bias, while conservatives make sure men break their backs, and occasionally give their lives to uphold that society.

[–]TurbulentFlow7145 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most accurate assesment I've ever read/heard

[–]throwaway20210821 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't forget that Chip Roy is on twitter claiming draft registration equalization is because of "woke leftists". "Woke" is a non-starter word that has come to mean anything tradcons want it to. "Woke", "SJW": people have been saying this before (although it's unpopular given the association "woke" has with anything anti men's rights), but men's rights is considered all the same 'woke' and 'SJW' to these kinds of politicians and political commenters.

https://archive.is/wbe1n

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Men's rights activists need to be careful not to get drawn into the culture wars of conservatives (who have always looked down on men's rights activists despite their recent lip service about 'masculinity' and fathers) and transphobic moral panics about "men in women's sports/men in women's bathrooms". There is also a consistent trend that the kind of people that encourage this culture war and transphobia are the same who want to force only men to fight and die in wars (Marjorie Taylor Greene and DailyWire's Matt Walsh being examples).

[–]63daddy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said.

[–]White_Immigrant 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right wing politician pushing hard for the right for men to die in war. Not a surprise.

[–]Beat_navy 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Guess what? I don't want my son drafted either. Frankly, most people don't want anyone drafted. In particular, most people in the military favor an all- volunteer force. And every woman I know that are in the military think that women should NOT be exempt from any draft.

[–]thisisnotatoaster 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Both men and women should be subject to the selective service, or nobody should be subject to selective service.

[–]DirtyPartyMan 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe we shouldn’t be so quick to go to war then Chip

[–]NunjaPiznes 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chip should fight his own fricken wars and send his own kids to battle before sending regular folks. All wars are politicians wars. I really don't give a damn about women in military, but I do give a damn about physical criteria such as strength being met, no exceptions.

[–]dojoboy 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s a Selective Service registration not a draft, Mr. Representative.

[–]Thevoidawaits_u 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Abolish the draft

[–]QnsConcrete 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Picture is awful. Why is her flag upside down?

[–]Expensive_Quiet3716 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just remove the draft. I can't go in because of my condition and women aren't drafted. I thought we were equal

[–]rednoids 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is up with that jacked up shit looking uniform. American flag is upside down!!!!?

[–]freerossulbrich -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I am a libertarian.

I don't like draft

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I don't like voting right (though I can't figure out better alternatives).

However, draft in exchange of voting right is about right. If you can be drafted then you are valuable to defend your country. You deserve something in return.

I would say, a better deal would be voting right in exchange of money but that's another issue.

[–]proteios1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

its not discrimination. women shouldnt be in the military in the first place.

[–]Fearless-File-3625 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men shouldn't be either.

[–]Beat_navy 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not?

[–]gado0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But you could draft my son

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