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Resolved: Feminism is evil

rbrockway

June 23, 2022

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Title	Resolved: Feminism is evil
Author	rbrockway
Upvotes	13
Comments	52
Date	June 23, 2022 2:33 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vim8r1/resolved_feminism_is_evil/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/resolved-feminism-is-evil.1120356 https://theredarchive.com/post/1120356

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And here you can spot someone who's only listened to people read a holy text, never actually studying one themselves.

I love triggering anger bots. You can see it when they start dodging references and call you a liar.

Lovely. Expected, but still fun.

Yes. That is exactly the statement I make, because its historically accurate.

There is no suffering olympic. Suffering has no favorites, but we've done major harm to women troughout history, and some parts of the world continue to do so. We've also done major harm to fellow men troughout history, which we seem inclined to repeat for some strawman reasoning...

Only god knows why.

No amout of ignorance can change a historical fact. From the dawn of time, Eve was but a segment of Adam, nothing more. Created for Adam, never an equal.

That was echoed trough time and culture for so long, that some countries teach the Genesis in kindergarden.

The christian religion and the common law are intertwined. See the report from the American Antiquarian Society. Its called "The Christian Religion and the Common Law"

"The eternal principles of natural religion are part of the common law".

Where do you think the coveture law addressed in the Bradley V state case comes from?

William Blackstone addressed it in the Commentsries on English Law (1765-1769)

But then again, it was never about fact finding, was it?

You reek of anger bot antics.

Try again. [Edited gramar and spacing]

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[–]Majestic_Fartsniffer1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nowhere have I stated that men are psychopatic.

Your narative not mine.

I addressed men's needs and wants and how incorrectly those have been directed troughout history.

I come from eastern europe, a land where men were valued less than a boot with a hole in it, not too long ago. I'm well aware of the historical context of both men and women's struggles and how both sides had it bad.

The problem that you're avpiding like the plague is that due to a number of variables such as religious culture and how that became an influence on law, we made things worse than they had to be for women.

Nowhere does it say that men by large had it so much better, but by large, considering that we've kept abrahamic nonsence alive since its conception, we are unavoidably to blame, at least in part for the damage its done.

NOW, clarification point is required as "being to blame," there, refers to men and their culture at the time of said action, not all men in present day.

I'm not reaponsible for the mistakes of my father, but I sure as shit am responsible for NOT becoming my father.

And that's rhe very point of it. Ackowledging that past actions and behaviours have inherrent flaws that require correction and growth.

A standard I must hold myself to as I move forward.

If we shame ourselves from saying "well that's not ok, i need to do better FOR myself" then we go back to shaming men away from health and betterment, which you do, mind you, with your senseless, unethical and unfactual propaganda.

What I've provided is accurate and verifiable. Not that you do any research, but it is what it is.

You may have been a feminist, but that doesn't mean you upgraded your research skills. You haven't upgraded, you just jumped ship...

Carry on you wondeful propaganda bot! :*

[–]EmirikolWoker4 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Nowhere have I stated that men are psychopatic.

You've claimed that women are oppressed by men. That requires psychopathy in order to see a human being as less than human, especially ones own mother.

I'm well aware of the historical context of both men and women's struggles and how both sides had it bad.

Is that why you only focus on the rights women lack, and ignore all of the responsibilities they lacked too?

The problem that you're avpiding like the plague is that due to a number of variables such as religious culture and how that became an influence on law, we made things worse than they had to be for women.

Have you considered the situation for men? Clearly not. The situation was bad for everyone, and the bulk of the work fell to men. Women had protections men didn't, and as such men had rights necessary to carry out those protections. That's the historical fact you're avoiding.

Nowhere does it say that men by large had it so much better

You just did when you said "we made things worse than they had to be for women", unless you were needlessly gendering a genderless problem, like a feminist.

Carry on propaganda bot. I'm sure you'll get positive female attention you crave for all the hard work you're doing.

[–]Majestic_Fartsniffer1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

A. Opression does not require psychopathy. It only requires ignorance.

B. Responsibilities* (edited gramar) are provided by rights in the same manner they are required. What responsibilities have women missed troughout history so that their rights would be challenged?

C. I do consider the situation for men. Which is why I do not tolerate propaganda and anger bots such as yourself who seek to win internet points but never reach out to help a fellow man. You comments spew hate when they could deliver help and guidance.

That would require research and commitment so I understand the challenge.

D. We have made it unecessarily difficult for women as we've also made it unecessarily difficult for men. White men's sufferage is an example. White nonland owning men could not vote untill the american presidential election of 1828.

That imbalance wasn't created by women but other men, as under common law, women could not own land unless via special permkssions rarely ever granted.

For us to have it overall better would require us to be singular beneficiaries of advantages, minus the act of doing onto ourselves.

Do you bother processing the information that's shared or do you only skim past it?:)))

People like you are why men's rights are so fucked.

You have no anchor in reality. You have myths and fabules and hate. And you want to use what's in your head to make a dent in real life but that's not how that works.

Find out where the anger comes from and you just might be able to step out of our head for a moment and trully connect to the reality you want to inhabit

I hope you find solutions, but you can only use them if you trully want them.

Best of luck to you!

(And lay of the propaganda. It doesn't go far.)

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Feminism is generally understood to be a broad label for a movement advancing women’s rights. Only certain flavors of feminism (incorporating critical theory) visualize patriarchy as a form of class warfare against women. Those same feminists tend to view gender as an arbitrary social construct built on top of ultimately meaningless bimodal sex differences. Women are not supposed to “win” the class war and start oppressing men, we are supposed to end the gender dichotomy and all live as our true selves.

There exist other flavors of feminism (like neo-feminism) which emphasize female superiority due to life-creating properties or some other bullshit.

I disagree with both views. I view patriarchy as a relatively minor detail in a broader social system where women have a better baseline standard of living than men but perhaps have a harder time reaching the peaks of power. But then, I am not a feminist.

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That’s not how statements work. “The patriarchy exists” is a descriptive statement, not a prescriptive one. One can believe in patriarchy and also support patriarchy. If belief in the patriarchy requires misandry, is such a person simultaneously pro-male and anti-male?

Again, wrong. Christians believe ALL people are metaphorically the children of god, and that Jesus is Divine and the literal son of god (exceptions may apply). Even Jews and Muslims believe Jesus was metaphorically the son of god. Not even your analogies work. You are wrong on top of wrong within wrong

And no, belief in patriarchy does not make one a feminist. One might believe in patriarchy and support it. Can such a person be both pro-patriarchy and anti-patriarchy? Or does feminism simply require belief in patriarchy regardless of one’s attitude toward it?

I consider myself a Men’s Rights Activist. I believe a patriarchy exists. Am I simultaneously pro-men and misandrist, or does acknowledgement of the easily observable fact that women don’t occupy most positions of power override all my advocacy for abolishment of circumcision, military drafts, mass incarceration, biased courts, and more?

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