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[–]vivvienne 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
At least according to the movie she was essentially being forced to play along against her will. Her mom says if she doesn't marry the guy they will wind up on the streets because they're only upper class by name. Also at the time not having a male figure is not a great place to be for women. Apparently rose's father was dead, either way he wasn't there so...
Cal did a lot of good things on paper but he also treats her like another possession, and he does abuse her plenty whereas Leonardo dicaprio was the only who acknowledged her right to her agency as she almost commits suicide just to escape her plight. (DiCaprio talks her out of throwing herself over the edge and almost gets arrested for looking like he was assaulting her, which leads to cal inviting him to dinner for being a hero). DiCaprio in that sense was not the reason why she ultimately cheated.
I can't believe I even remember this.
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Don’t they both end up dead and she survives ? According to someone on here she also gets married again but on her death bed she still goes for the bum? Is this true? Sounds highly emotional and shit if true? Why would she still be stuck with the bum?
[–]TermAggravating8043 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She’s telling her story about her time on titanic as requested, she’s allowed to have memories
[–]vivvienne 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, actually cal survives, but DiCaprio dies. He gets arrested and handcuffed to the ship to die while cal boards a boat by finding a lost child and pretending he's her father. Rose against all sense actually goes to the bottom of the ship to save DiCaprio and they eventually wind up in the water. He manages to find a door but it's only strong enough to hold up one so DiCaprio obviously makes her get on the door as he freezes to death. She gets picked up by a boat. At a point she sees cal but hides as she doesn't want to go back to him.
After that, I don't know. Now I wanna go read up on it but the movie is obviously already a huge embellishment of her life I'm sure so it's better to judge it on its own.
[–]axii69[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Awesome! Thanks for the explanation! I’ll end up watching it soon enough. I remember the memes that said both of them could have easily fit on that door in the water 😆
[–]vivvienne 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I mean it's a good film regardless. So I went ahead and looked it up, the characters are completely fictional, James Cameron was inspired by advant gard editor Beatrice wood who like many artists can be swingers. She was with one guy and then added the second guy who's a close friend of theirs. Her life wasn't anything like rose's, just the personality allegedly.
[–]PizzashillsmomSelf Made Pill 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What she did to her actual husband post Titanic is way way worse. She had no interest in Cal, the fact that he couldn’t accept that is whatever, not her problem. On the other hand she had a husband after titanic who she was with until his death and lived basically her entire life with and on her death decides to be with this bum she fucked on a boat for 2 days when she was 17.
[–]axii69[S] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The bum was dead tough right? I remember the memes.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, Jack died in the water by freezing to death
[–]blebbyroo 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rose is forced into an arranged marriage by her mother.
Cal Flips over the table and slaps her in the face.
[–]haroldshipman_MD 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Heavily skewed.
Billy Zane acts consistently like a cunt throughout the entire movie. He's comically insufferable. He does freely gift his money to Kate Winslet though. Foolish on his part because she clearly has no interest in him from the start. He's the 1914 equivalent of the guy you see in the supermarket screaming that his watch costs more than the cashier's entire life.
As for his suicide, it's historically accurate that he would have killed himself. We're talking about an age where idiotic notions of chivalry dominated Western culture. Many men who survived the Titanic were viewed as failures and cowards. Lots of male survivors killed themselves because of the shame.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, plus it was showed multiple times she did not love him throughout the movie, and her mother was basically pushing her to marry him for the money and influence. Cal was an enormous dick
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Why was she with him to begin with?
[–]crookedsummer2019 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because it was a time when women had very limited opportunity to survive on their own. There’s a scene with her and her mother and her mother telling her that her father lost all of their money and essentially marrying someone she doesn’t want is their way out of poverty. Something about a woman’s choices never being easy. That’s why she was with him, to survive. Perhaps the threat of death on a ship snapped her back to reality and made her realize that if she was going to die then she wanted to spend the last bit of time actually being happy with someone she connected with. That’s probably why she got off the life boat when she realized that Jack wasn’t going to get on one.
The love story is centred around bigger themes of class, resilience etc.
[–]haroldshipman_MD 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Arranged marriage.
[–]NotanothrshitthrowNo Pill 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
No, it's not accurate.
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[–]NotanothrshitthrowNo Pill 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
It was an arranged marriage and Cal acted like a comical villain who was abusive towards her. There's far better examples of men getting fucked over in romantic films, just watch Sleepless in Seattle.
[–]axii69[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Did he deserve getting killed over it? I read he dies over it?
[–]NotanothrshitthrowNo Pill 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's been years since I watched it but he survived the Titanic by sneaking onto a lifeboat. Probably was some throwaway narration about him dying afterwards.
People rarely deserve to die in films by our current moral standards, but they do.
He survived, he found a child pretends she’s his daughter to earn him a place on a lifeboat
[–]Zadacat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
There is no reasoning with you, even when people say you aren’t correct because the description of the movie is not correct. You deny it.
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
So asking follow up questions is not allowed? So much for a debate. “You’re wrong and i’m right because I tell you so”
[–]Zadacat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Its literally all you do over the thread, bettin’ you wouldn’t be asking follow up questions if someone says “true” or something
[–]axii69[S] -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Sure, make more non data driven assumptions and don’f use any critical thinking. That’s the healthy way forward.
[–]Zadacat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Where is your data then? Except this false post?
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I don’t have any. That’s why i’m asking questions and it’s exactly why i asked if the post is real or not. Doh.
[–]UpbeatInsurance5358 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No.
[–]axii69[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]TermAggravating8043 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you even seen the film?
Slapping someone in the face is not calmly confronting them
[–]LaloTwinsCAESARPilled 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh yeah Fuck Rose’s selfish ass
This bitch gets flown out in to the middle of the ocean and is asked where the diamond she rejected is
Turns out she stole it and has had it for decades
Instead of telling the people who brought her here though, she goes into a diatribe about how she fucked a 17 year old when she was engaged.
At the end of the story she drops said diamond that she’s had the entire time into the ocean because not only was Rose selfish on the boat, she’s carried that selfishness over to her old age.
Because she could’ve easily given the diamond to her kids and grandkids. She has a granddaughter in the movie.
But no she symbolically gives it back to Jack, the 17 year old dick this 90 year old woman is still thinking about
What a dickhead
[–]axii69[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All sounds high emotion low logic
[–]DanielleK95 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I must have watched a different film
[–]DanielleK95 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cos that never happend 😂😂
[–]Ok-Map-7596 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I ain't reading allat
[–]Ohms2North 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It'd be quicker to watch the movie
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah him and the ginger girl were both completely unlikable people .
[–]Birb-brainedNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cal killed himself after the Wall Street Crash in the 20s, he lost his fortune.
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