Success (and wealth) can actually worsen your dating experience as a man

Naus1987 · 2023-01-22T11:54:19+00:00

I think success and wealth make life easier, but you touched on another important issue--time.

A man who doesn't have as much free time to spend on things outside of work like dating or education will always suffer, regardless on how successful he is.

I like money, because it means I can retire early and have more time. I don't see any value in wealth if it can't buy you time. I'd rather be broke and have free time than rich and work even 40 hours a week. I'm a good happy point working two-three days a week, and then having the rest of the time to do stuff.

And yeah, I'd say that having more free time to be a more 'invested' partner has made my relationships much stronger than money ever could.

Relationships are like plants, ya gotta nurture and water them to have them grow and flourish. Money is the sun. You need some to survive, but no one wants to live in a spotlight without water.

stefanobrosca · 2023-01-22T12:07:10+00:00

Money attracts golddiggers

Nightchanger · 2023-01-22T10:35:18+00:00

At what age did meeting with new people expect you to introduce yourself with your job title?

Professor_Meep · 2023-01-22T17:06:02+00:00

I think the thing is when you're pursuing a normal non-transactional relationship, women don't really care that much about your success and money because it doesn't affect them. Especially in the beginning stages of meeting someone. Sure it's definitely an advantage when compared to someone who is broke and unemployed, but there isn't much of a distinction between you and someone else who is secure financially but makes considerably less money.

When you meet women they're likely impressed by your success but it's not going to be the most important deciding factor because you're not giving them $, paying their living expenses etc so your income level doesn't matter much to them. Beyond a certain level an increase in $/success is not going to significantly improve your romantic prospects unless you're strictly targeting highly successful women or you're pursuing a transactional relationship.

untitled20 · 2023-01-22T11:48:02+00:00

Perhaps it’s because you’re taking less care of yourself physically now, may be you have less energy and are out of shape physically, and that’s why you’re having issues? May be hitting the gym will help

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2023-01-22T15:15:48+00:00

Wrong comparison. You are comparing your prospects when younger in a college setting to when you are older and working long hours. A better comparison would be to compare someone of your similar background who isn’t rich and successful vs. you. That will tell you if being rich and successful has no benefit in dating

LolIAmLike5 · 2023-01-22T06:14:24+00:00

I would say that being successful simply allows you to demand more out of a relationship and from your woman.

Plus, if what you are saying is true, why would the richest men be with the most attractive female models?

YamatoDamashii_ · 2023-01-22T23:12:07+00:00

This does not apply to the majority of countries in the world where people are struggling. As the western economies continue to collapse women will become far more concerned with provider male hunting than romantic ideals.

Flimsy-Painting6880 · 2023-01-22T18:11:11+00:00

I don’t think wealth is on its own that attractive, but it’s about what it allows you to do.

Being rich let’s you give a girl fun experiences like expensive restaurants or holidays that being poor does not. (Think of how the Tate brothers use their money to provide a certain lifestyle).

Most girls don’t care how the fun experiences come about, they just care that their boyfriend is able to provide them. Similarly most girls don’t really understand how much different things cost, because they have never needed to and have always had their dad or boyfriends paying for them, they just naturally gravitate to the men who provide these experiences for them.

To be honest in 2023 you don’t need to be really rich, but you need to be considerably above average financially to live an enjoyable dating and wider lifestyle. Similarly you need fitness, game, a good social circle to be all working in tandem making you an attractive man.

I have found in my experience girls don’t care how the things that make you attractive work, only that they do. I think although the red pill has some good ideas it’s too dogmatic in the extent you need some things.

uniquename1992 · 2023-01-23T01:55:42+00:00

are you looking as hard as you were younger?

did your standard get higher now? maybe that could be a reason?

Gmed66 · 2023-01-23T09:16:42+00:00

You are absolutely right. I see this attitude at my workplace where higher management is mainly made by men in their 30s. They are single and they are struggling.

By speaking with some, I noticed that they are a bit frantic and confuse of what they want for the future. They go from "beautiful girl" to " good woman to settle down". So they get a bit upset when the beautiful girls are not that impressed on their job/career and the good woman to settle down is uncomfortable with the massive amount of hours that they dedicate to work.

Do you date with intention? Like the intention of a long term or do you date for the fun/light fling. I think the first category is the one who will like to have that kind of financial stability but it's fearful to commit because the hours. Imagine being married with some pulling 80-100 hours a week. Maybe having a difficult pregnancy and knowing that you have to rely only on friends and family because husband is working. The second category will see wealth just as bonus but not a decise trait.

One thing that men seems to not grasp nowadays, is that the whole concept of man=wealthy=$$$ dates, doesn't exist. Women are aware that dating someone who is in a higher tier of luxury means pressure to perform femininity and sex. More and more women, even to humble condition, would prefer to sit at home with their favorite ice cream than dolled up and go out for an expensive restaurant and then find yourself in the awkward position of some sexual favour.

redditheadedstepdad · 2023-01-23T10:39:41+00:00

You’re the exception. There are also men who don’t like big breasts, but cleavage helps women most of the time.

Sad-Insurance3847 · 2023-01-26T19:37:55+00:00

Wealth by itself is useless, what you want is a cool life that only money can get you. It's why Zuckerberg is not surrounded by models, but Dan Bilzerian is.

Title	Success (and wealth) can actually worsen your dating experience as a man
Author	Gmed66
Upvotes	46
Comments	79
Date	January 22, 2023 4:43 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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