Let’s talk about those rape posters

TracyMorganFreeman · 2013-07-14T05:49:06+00:00

JB really has a way of cutting to the heart of it.. all of those other posters were horrendous.. but even me, a middle class white guy, am so used to being told men like me are rapists I don't even blink twice at it any more..

HoundDogs · 2013-07-14T06:45:37+00:00

Very good point.

Also worth noting is the question of the population of innocent men VS rapist numbers....that is actual, real rape, not absurd SRS "He looked at me creepy." rape. What percentage of men actually take advantage of women in these situations? I don't know what the number is, but it's probably safe to say that it is a small minority. Yet feminists feel these posters, which insinuate that ALL men should be watched carefully, are perfectly reasonable.

The bottom line is, these posters are a really, really shitty idea thought up by some incredibly warped individuals. The posters put up by MR's just highlight the absurdity.

DavidByron · 2013-07-14T14:14:04+00:00

I think there are some guys, mostly college age, who need to see the idea of these posters. That a passed out girl cannot consent, that someone who is barely able to stand can consent. These situations do happen and there are guys who take advantage. I don't see the problem.

I DO see the problem with their tagline, "don't be that guy". If it is offensive putting other groups in there, it is offensive putting 'guy' in there.

I also don't see a problem with the retaliatory posters. Girls need to be shown (especially college girls) that consent and responsibility are up to them, that crying rape because they regret what they did is wrong. I would add they should be shown posters that warn them that black out drunk makes them far more susceptible to these situations and it really is their responsibility to protect themselves to a large degree. That they think they can go get smashed anywhere and have a magic bubble of safety around them is a dangerous idea.

DavidByron · 2013-07-14T16:49:17+00:00

Well so far so good, but the next step is to ask what it means when the state is promoting hatred against a minority group? Institutional hatred of a minority group is called apartheid. When you have the leaders of Canada's police and government defending political hatred of a minority group that is saying Canada is an apartheid state.

avantvernacular · 2013-07-15T14:56:19+00:00

He's how I see the issue with demonizing men.

~~Feminists~~People who fear men, I get why you're doing it. You're afraid, you see these horror stories in the media and it makes you paranoid. And the media is pervasive and thus so is the paranoia. It's not entirely unreasonable to be afraid under those circumstances. We all have things we're afraid of, probably more than we should be. But we need to control our fear, and more important control how our fear affects how we treat other people.

Think a a young child who happens to be a boy. Imagine he lives in a world where (either directly or indirectly) he is told, from as soon as he can get on the bus to school, how bad boys are, how bad men are that boys become. Imagine if he hears all these people telling around him and in the media telling him all the horrible things that men have done, that men still do, what horrible people men are, how all the worst people in the world are men and all world's problems are caused by men. What monsters, what demons, what a *scourge on innocent victims of womankind men are.

Some of these boys will hear all this, but look to their fathers and their male teachers that they see everyday, and other men in their lives who are not monsters and see this is not true. Some boys will hear this, but hear enough saying good things about men to not believe it. Some boys will hear this, but have no fathers or male teachers or other male role models in their lives, they will have no one saying or showing good qualities of men - and they will believe what they hear. They will believe that men are monsters, and that will be too, if they are not already. And they will accept it, maybe even embrace it. And while this may seem like some fantasy scenario, for a lot of men and boys, that world is this world now. That's today, that's the world they know.

In short: you create the monster you're so afraid of

If you find yourself wondering why men are so evil, why men are so violent, why men are hurtful and do so many bad things and why men are not the way you want them to be, the first thing you should examine is yourself.

fia_bui · 2013-07-14T11:05:13+00:00

Two corrections:

It's really important when making nazi comparisons to point out that, obviously, this situation isn't that extreme. While there are the femitheists of this world, I don't see anyone actually stocking up on barbed wire and zyclone-b.
Better suggestion for white guy: "Just because you're minding their money, doesn't mean you can spend it on your salary. DON'T BE THAT WHITE GUY" I'd be inclined to avoid the white guy one though, anti-white racism isn't nearly as much a problem, or as unacceptable as, other forms of racism. The bicycle thieves ones put it best.

Great article though, sums it up perfectly.

2013-07-14T09:37:23+00:00

He missed one thing.

Rapists think rape is normal. It's how they live with themselves. They thing even if they're doing something illegal and wrong, that everyone does it, like how many more people would think of speeding (or at least, a majority of them think that way).

These posters prop up that way of thinking.

These posters are more likely to increase rape rates than reduce them.

0xstev3 · 2013-07-14T11:43:11+00:00

MOST MEN AREN’T RAPISTS

MOST BLACK MEN AREN’T THIEVES

Most rapes are committed by men, right?

Most bike thefts aren't committed by black men, right?

This is a faulty comparison, no?

Rmedero · 2013-07-14T09:58:51+00:00

Rape. In the end its just paer all jumbled up.

2013-07-14T16:48:43+00:00

...this article is terribly written. Man, I was indeed not surprised to find out it was a first draft.

2013-07-14T18:34:59+00:00

Do any of you talk to women

Title	Let’s talk about those rape posters
Author	MRMRising
Upvotes	58
Comments	66
Date	July 14, 2013 1:35 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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