Men are opting out and it's great! But is it really?

Lord_Perseus · 2013-07-01T20:39:44+00:00

Sure it's great, men are opting out of a hate-filled society that persecutes them for simply being who they are. What's even better is wallowing in the schadenfreude of all the women who are wondering what's going on. Enjoy the fruits of your endeavours ladies

Tammylan · 2013-07-01T18:54:11+00:00

Uhhh am I missing the review or is there actually just one tiny paragraph?

Hamakua · 2013-07-01T19:21:21+00:00

its our right to choose not to get married or have children and there should be no social stigma attached to our choices.

ExpendableOne · 2013-07-02T00:32:41+00:00

No, men opting out isn't the best solution. It's not really even that good of a solution. It's simply the only choice a lot of men are left with. It's like being in an abusive relationship, where any attempts to communicate is dismissed, laughed at or incites more abuse. Becoming violent isn't an acceptable answer. Taking on the abuse in silence isn't an acceptable answer. Desperately trying to meet unhealthy and unrealistic demands, at men's expense is not an acceptable answer. Doing nothing is not an acceptable answer. Leaving is the only solution that men can choose and that is within their control. The rest is up to women, or society, to change.

ExpendableOne · 2013-07-01T20:35:15+00:00

No, not really.

It would be better if we could all pair up and build lives together. But most women in Feminist America don't want that. They want us to build our own lives alone, then they want us to share that life with them -- even though they had nothing to do with building it. They want to fuck around during their twenties, then they want to settle down with us in our thirties. They want to keep their best years, but they want us to give them ours. That is not an equal trade in any way.

I don't care how much money they make, so them being older when they want to marry is nothing but a downside. I get a less attractive woman who has had her heart broken a half-dozen times, resents men and probably has a whole pack of kids in tow. Why the fuck would I want that?

So it's not great, but it's the only choice I have.

5HydroxymethylC · 2013-07-01T23:02:25+00:00

I think it's great for the reason that actions speak louder than words. If one understands that the marriage contract has grown into something unreasonable for men, but then enters into the contract voluntarily as opposed to walking away, they're sending a mixed message.

This is just my prediction, but I think men refusing to enter into marriage contracts will become increasingly common, and I think society will have to eventually respond to this by recognizing the damage that has already been done.

I see going back to a Pre-Feminist cultural setup as being unsustainable in 21st Century modernity, but I do think certain wrongs will have to be put right.

Quarkster · 2013-07-01T20:27:36+00:00

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yakushi12345 · 2013-07-02T00:31:29+00:00

"If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders-what would you tell him to do?"

"I . . . don't know. What . . . could he do? What would you tell him?"

"To shrug."

soshootme · 2013-07-01T17:37:17+00:00

There's a certain satisfaction in being a responsible man. Society is slowly taking that away from us. Opting out once in a while is a whole lot different than shirking our responsibilities altogether. While the courts, advertising and entertainment paint us dog like Neanderthals we don't have to buy into it.

2013-07-01T18:54:16+00:00

An exit is not a destination. The path is painful and shakey

scanspeak · 2013-07-02T12:14:09+00:00

Opting out gives me control of my life and freedom. The alternative is to be enslaved by her and the state.

avantvernacular · 2013-07-02T14:57:16+00:00

A strike is - in the short run - bad for business, the workers, and the economy. It's a gamble that the impact will provide long term benefit for the workers as a whole that outweighs the temporary loss to the individual.

In this scenario, women are the business, men are the workers, and society is the economy.

Title	Men are opting out and it's great! But is it really?
Author	soshootme
Upvotes	30
Comments	67
Date	July 1, 2013 5:32 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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