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Gillette boss: Alienating some consumers with #metoo campaign was a price worth paying | Only the first half of this article (rest is behind a paywall), but still revealing nonetheless.

EricAllonde

August 1, 2019
117 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.marketingweek.com/gillette-metoo-campaign-fallout/
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Title Gillette boss: Alienating some consumers with #metoo campaign was a price worth paying | Only the first half of this article (rest is behind a paywall), but still revealing nonetheless.
Author

EricAllonde

Upvotes 117
Comments 49
Date August 1, 2019 12:19 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/cknmtv/gillette_boss_alienating_some_consumers_with/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/gillette-boss-alienating-some-consumers-with-metoo.1205127
https://theredarchive.com/post/1205127
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[–]fengpi 44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

What I find so incredible about the creator of that ad campaign is that she brags about "the message" that she was spreading. How important it was for her to "spread the message," that was her giant win. That was her big accomplishment. Not "promote the brand I was hired to promote," not "increase my client's sales" or anything greedy or corporate like that, but to spread an unrelated message that had fuck all to do with shaving and, apparently, insulted part of the intended audience.

Okay miss, how about a Pepsi ad where you warn people about the dangers of athlete's foot? That's a very important message. "Wow, my toes have turned raw from a stinking fungal infection and your toes might stink too-- hey, look, a Pepsi can."

[–]Wisemanner 21 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

She won because she was paid. By an idiot boss, in my opinion, who put his company's profits at risk to spread the feminist message.

[–]SirGuileSir 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

THIS is why people need to step up and stop buying ANY P&G product.

[–]fengpi 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She won because she was paid.

I hope she's smart enough to leave that victory out of the project portfolio she'll want to show to future clients. She isn't smart enough to do that, but I can certainly hope.

[–]RT-AC66U 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. It is her magnum opus. It was well shot, slammed white men, etc.

[–]yg111 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The boss is a cuck. A cooperate cuck. Feminists and cucks go hand in hand to ruin everything.

[–]Nergaal 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That boss was tolerated by a board that thought profit loss is good. And investors didn't say anything.

[–]fengpi 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Aaaahaahaahaaa... pathetic boss thinks fewer sales means more sales, losing is the path to coming in first. Aaaahaahaahaaahaaa... Yes yes, it wasn't a fuck-up, it was all part of a brilliant rope-a-dope strategy where you attain victory by falling on your face. "We meant to do that!" Haahaa...

"See? I'm bleeding from a thousand wounds-- that means I won!"

[–]furchfur 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. He is trying to put a positive spin on an obvious cock up.

How is alienating your customer base to win new customers a winning strategy? What we do know is that the $8 billion write down means the advert did not work!

[–]fengpi 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Hey, you gotta turn every defeat into a victory, turn that frown into a smile. You fall in the mud? Now you're wearing a new brown suit, friend!

The customers who were alienated? Those were bad customers, good riddance to that rubbish. Gillette didn't want their filthy, dirty, backwards patriarchal money anyway. That's not the future. No no, the future is capturing the all-important "low testosterone/singular testicle" demographic. Some of them even have a few facial hairs! The marketing research found that this group also tends to buy a lot of bikini wax, decorative butthole accessories and various categories of skin ointments for some reason, so there are some definite cross-marketing possibilities.

[–]tenchineuro 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

How is alienating your customer base to win new customers a winning strategy?

If you actually do win new customers, it could possibly be a winning strategy. That is, if you win more new customers than the old customers you lose. But it does not appear that they won any new customers at all, or at least not a significant number.

But letting a radical feminist do an ad campaign for men's products is a move that on the surface looks suicidal. Men have options here.

[–]superhobo666 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The real joke is the people they tried to court either don't shave at all(because personal grooming is toxic masculinity) or only need to shave twice a year because of sunflowerseed sized nuts giving them low T.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The real joke is the people they tried to court either don't shave at all(because personal grooming is toxic masculinity) or only need to shave twice a year because of sunflowerseed sized nuts giving them low T.

Male feminists are a thing, but my estimate is that they are a small minority of men. I'd assume a lot of men just go along out of self-protection, but I can't see them willingly financing those who support the feminist hatred of men.

[–]fengpi 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you actually do win new customers, it could possibly be a winning strategy.

No, don't you see? By losing all of their customers, they're going to capture the biggest market share! Crazy like a fox!

[–]tenchineuro 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, don't you see? By losing all of their customers, they're going to capture the biggest market share! Crazy like a fox!

Wait, if they could convince feminists to shave their, err, cats (no really, cats they got), then bald kitties could be the new 'in' thing and they'd be raking in the cash, maybe. :-)

[–]DJ-Roukan 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The mentality of the woke cultist, even when the reality is written like a flash burnt across the sky...and it was not "their MeToo campaign", it was an outright lie, misrepresentation, and attack on all men who do not subscribe to their delusion.

“...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.”

― Herman Melville,

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

All this time I thought this was a Khan quote from Star Trek 2

[–]fgrsentinel 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wrath of Khan was very much inspired by Herman Melville's Moby Dick. Khan is basically Star Trek Captain Ahab.

[–]DJ-Roukan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It was.

[–]functionalsociopathy 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The joke's on you, I was only pretending to be retarded."

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]itswithinmyreach 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you when Phillips makes the oneblade? It’s the best.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

doubling down on a colossal fuckup is rarely the correct answer

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm guessing they overestimated how many menslib type men there were (since they're very loud on social media) and figured being woke would work out for them. When it didn't the alternatives are to admit it was a failed pandering attempt or claim this was their plan all along.

[–]LemonCanopy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A few months before the add, I engaged some guy trying to promote the concept of toxic masculinity on /r/mensrights he concluded that he totally believed he had gained some convert.

Not sure who he was and I can't find it anymore (changed my username since then).

Soon after both P&G and the APA came out against toxic masculinity. I think it was a disaster for both, but they're both trying to gaslight their way out of it. Basically, doing a weird double-down back away at the same time. Never admit failure, but try not to do the same mistake again.

[–]Egalitarianwhistle 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Woking Dead rule social media. They are very good at punishing and ostracizing. In the real world though, a lot of resentment has built up and so a lot of people are just quietly not buying from Gillette anymore. What's interesting, is that as far as I know, there hasn't been any organization for an actual boycott. It just happened organically.

​

Even now, I'm not gonna go on social media and rage against Gillette, I've just quietly made the personal decision to buy other companies razors.

[–]fgrsentinel 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that it's not an organized boycott makes it all the more powerful: this isn't some big movement doing this, it's all their former customers that stuck with them because of brand loyalty. It's not a group of people screaming on social media about it and that means there's nothing Gillette can do about it since there's no movement/organization they can easily apologize to, if their apology would even mean anything to anyone.

[–]the_count1234 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like Wimp Lo is the boss of Gillette.

"I'm bleeding. Making me the victor." "Face to foot style. Howd you like it?"

[–]fengpi 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought I was the only one who remembered that movie.

[–]Onlymgtow88 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

This is what happens when people live and breathe spin and corporation talk, they lose touch with reality.

[–]DavidByron2 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

was a price worth paying....... admitted it didn't work

Which?

[–]VoxVirilis 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gillette’s CEO and president, Gary Coombe, says that angering some consumers with its #metoo campaign was a “price worth paying” if it meant the brand could increase its relevance among younger consumers and turn around its falling market share.

But did it?

[–]EricAllonde[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't sound like it from this story.

[–]Keenin455 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wonder if he'll be saying the same thing when begging in the streets, hungry, for change.

[–]EricAllonde[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. The CEO has a) signed off on a disastrous and hugely damaging ad campaign and b) had to take an $8.3 billion writedown in just 6 months. His career is clinging by its fingertips at this point, if he doesn't have a big win soon he's finished.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Alright. Get ready to pay some more.

[–]miketrance 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder what he’s going to say when his ass gets fired and he finds out just how much society gives a shit about the average man. I don’t wish bad things on him but I wouldn’t give him a dollar if he was begging for change.

[–]jp_mra 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They are doubling down on the woke-ness:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeigel/2019/07/15/pg-donating-529000-to-us-womens-soccer-team-isnt-a-cheap-shot-in-pay-gap-debate/
"It is the latest example of long-standing strategy that P&G uses for connecting with its customers.

[–]FindingKeeping 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My Pi hole blocked this website

[–]1LegendaryWombat 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks like rality ensued, don't play it off, you fucked up you idiots.

Losing to the competition is logical when your products are horribly overpriced and not even that good.

[–]Jackson2615 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Gillette’s CEO and president, Gary Coombe,

I hope he still feels that way when his next performance bonus is slashed coz the company made a loss on his watch ............... shareholders dont want virtue signalling crap they want profits

[–]EricAllonde[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it's so bizarre that feminists (both male & female) and SJWs in these senior roles can never figure that out.

"Get woke, go broke" continues to be the rule.

[–]nocivo 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

His shareholders will be happy to read this interviews

[–]EricAllonde[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, I suspect the CEO's career is almost over at this point.

[–]regularguy98b 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmao, it was not a price worth paying for them--in any business where only the bottom line matters, a loss of any amount, let alone $8 billion, is never a price worth paying. But now, since they've made the decision to be political they have to stand by their virtue signalling to avoid alienating the few customers they have left. Pathetic.

[–]IamshinyCatchme 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This makes me - a 16 year old male - want to go out and buy a pack of 25 disposable bic razors and never consider a gillette in my life

[–]EricAllonde[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Do it. Pretty much everyone in this sub who was using Gillette has dumped the brand for good now. Schick razors are every bit as good as Gillette, and a lot of people have switched to Harry's or Dollar Shave Club.

[–]IamshinyCatchme 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Since I don't really shave too often (cause my facial hair doesn't grow that fast), I only use disposable razors because I don't really see the point in having a super fancy one if I barely ever use it. It's kind of embarrassing to say that in real life though, because REAL MEN USE RAZORS WITH PRICES IN THE DOUBLE DIGITS and shit like that

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