Male suicide is something that society doesn't care at all

Intelligent-Term · 2023-08-04T10:29:01+00:00

Men are seen as the cogs of society and if one breaks (suit), it is seen as just being defective and another one will take its place.

I'm sorry you're struggling. I have suicidal ideation on and off too

Nevek_Green · 2023-08-04T07:05:53+00:00

If society doesn't care about you, you have no obligation towards its preservation. Food for thought.

Intelligent-Term · 2023-08-04T10:29:34+00:00

"Why there's no enough research about this?"

There is serious research there. The American Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the most trusted and important American health institution and research center, released data that 80% of all suicides in the US are men and boys.

But no major news source will report on it. Because most media is hyper focused on feminism and LGBT. It's almost like we're in a literal war where the feminists and LGBT hate men and men are offing themselves because they're losing all hope. I've literally heard feminists and LGBT laughing about men committing suicide.

https://www.cdc.gov/suicide/suicide-data-statistics.html

Status-Turnover-9677 · 2023-08-04T10:37:17+00:00

I don't agree with your suggestion that males are "biologically" more prone to suicidal tendencies -the answer is simpler:

Life is just far more unforgiving, competitive, and lonely for the average man as opposed to the average woman, and there is a massive lack of support systems for men who are struggling in this social landscape. It makes sense that this would result in men having more difficulty to cope with their existences

hsvgamer199 · 2023-08-04T11:02:31+00:00

Men are the workhorses of society.They all work the most dangerous jobs. They fight our wars. The moment you become too sick to work, you become useless in eyes of society. The majority of the homeless are men.

TheEndOfTheEvening · 2023-08-04T10:50:03+00:00

In our society, men that aren’t wealthy don’t matter. Except to the extent that you pay your taxes and buy a bunch of junk to fund the government and help the economy. And the men that are possibly more likely to commit suicide (poor, homeless, drug addicted or disadvantaged in some way) really don’t matter to the powers that be. We are demonized by women and no one can or will do anything about it because then that person will be attacked.

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-08-04T09:13:42+00:00

Goverments don't take it as a particular issue, a male related issue.

While this is generally true, there is a slow change of the tides (at least in the UK)

Why there's no enough research about this? I'm talking seriously, the root of male suicidality can be on our brains, on our biological factors, there is evidence of that, and nobody cares...

I don't share your hypothesis that there are biological factors driving the gender differential in suicide. While the fact that this gap can be observed in different cultures in similar fashion could be interpreted to support your hypothesis, I think it is cultural, namely: lack of adequate support / intervention structures which is also constant across different cultures as you yourself acknowledge:

There should be male suicide awareness to the point young adults recongize suicidal ideation in men's behavior. We need to save more lives.

So, I think the best course of action is to raise public awareness in an evidence based manner and improve services.

If you want to know more about the research and practical/clinical work being done on this, checkout John Barry and his books as well as his website:

https://www.centreformalepsychology.com/

Reversegiraffe1 · 2023-08-04T22:40:41+00:00

True story: During the pandemic I was thinking about killing myself. I told my mother I was thiking of doing it and she said "do it! put a bullet in your head! I dare you". I called my best friend and he said "bro, quit talking about suicide. I'm gonna hang up". Had to call the suicide hotline and talk to someone that gets paid to give shit. I obviously didn't do it but it woke me up to this. I'm doing much better these days but I asked my mother later why she would say something like that and she said "i wAnTeD tO mAkE yOu sTrOnGeR" and she apologolized but I told her if she ever said that again I would never speak to her again and she could forget she ever had a son. My best friend was like "dude I was scared" and I told him "if you ever said that, I would have personally driven to your home and ripped the gun off your hands. Can't believe you would just hang up". Seems like people just don't like hearing or dealing with it. Again, yes, I'm in a much better place now and doing that seems inconceivable now but that experience still cuts deep when I remember.

PrudentWolf · 2023-08-04T11:28:05+00:00

Sad, but its about big numbers. In US its more men than women up to 60 years old. US is the perfect example of good population distribution by the way. But it's almost the same everywhere - there are more young males up to certain age.

So, a few suicides from men won't really affect the distribution and therefore government have no intention to do anything about it.

Shameless_Gay_Guy · 2023-08-04T19:13:38+00:00

We live in a sexist society where women are the victims and men are the villains that are supposedly privileged and stronger. Wich is false.

walterwallcarpet · 2023-08-04T09:15:27+00:00

Why are we on the planet, unless to procreate? Women are almost certain to achieve their mission. But, by contrast, men must struggle and strive to impress women, or their genes are consigned to oblivion. Females are indifferent to male struggle, oestrogen closes down right-brain, empathetic areas post female adolescence. Nature actually wants them to act as cold, heartless jurors of male qualities, so that women can be genetic filters. There will, of course, be many male casualties along the way. For example, females see nothing morally wrong in cuckoldry, which will have obvious male consequences.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/who-s-the-daddy/

MD-pounding-puss · 2023-08-04T11:01:48+00:00

Ofcourse not. If you want to take over a country you kill the men and feminize the youth to stop any future uprisings.

nacho-chonky · 2023-08-04T23:15:18+00:00

We are straight up disposable

educateddrugdealer42 · 2023-08-04T14:05:49+00:00

Yeah, during my pharmacy studies a professor mentioned that being a woman is a risk factor for depression. When I spoke up that, while women seek treatment more often, in fact men are the gender at risk, as men commit suicide many times more, which arguably is the measure of how badly depressed one is, the whole auditorium (90% women) looked at me like I said the moon was made of cheese.

So yeah, that illustrated to me that men's mental health is no priority at all in healthcare. Strangely, the professor was a man himself.

ipwr85 · 2023-08-05T00:54:35+00:00

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AdNatural1703 · 2023-08-07T19:30:37+00:00

I hope you don’t mind I’m female

Definitely NOT trying to be a pick me girl, they are just spoiled brats. I personally used to have suicidal thoughts 2 years ago. I was sent to a mental hospital where on the “male” side, there were trans and gender fluid/non binary people on that side. The majority of that side was there for suicidal thoughts or drug overdose. I definitely agree from where you’re coming from. Men’s suicidal thoughts and tendencies are NOT taken as seriously. And that is bullshit. Women are usually the most bitchy and entitled people. That’s not to say that there are plenty guys who are dicks too. I think the reason the world acts like this is, because men have always been treated like they have no emotions. That is a horrible way to think. Everyone should be seen as equal when it comes to things like that. No one is more or less important when it comes to ending this hell of a life early. Everyone has lungs for breathing and shouldn’t be shoved down because of the gender they identify as. I hope you and everyone who has those tendencies, will eventually feel loved. I hate this world but no one deserves to die because of it.

Major-Donkey-6058 · 2023-08-04T08:47:30+00:00

Men portrayed in movies acting all stoic rather than actually feeling emotional teaches men to bury their emotions. Emotions that may end up hurting them. It’s like men are pushed to be so masculine that it ends up creating toxic habits. That masculinity is pushed to toxic levels.

NameIs-Already-Taken · 2023-08-04T23:53:48+00:00

Another factor is that men take suicide attempts more seriously, thinking of ways that have a good chance of success, whereas women are far less effective at planning a successful suicide.

Hornydaddy696 · 2023-08-28T22:45:25+00:00

Would you care if I go?

Title	Male suicide is something that society doesn't care at all
Author	theinfamousvidal
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Date	August 4, 2023 5:02 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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