Average and above average guys (5-8), How do you compete with top tier guys (9-10,11) ?

norwegiandoggo · 2022-03-06T19:04:18+00:00

Women do not all have the same taste. Nor do all men have exactly the same taste. So we're not all competing for the same women. And the women aren't all competing for the same men. This inherent variation in personal taste means that you can often beat out guys that are more "objectively" attractive than you, because you are subjectively more attractive to her than some objectively more handsome men.

I know that if a girl is "objectively” a 7, but she has dark hair and dark eyes, she is my type and I would prefer her over a blonde that's "objectively" a 9. Because of my subjective taste, I might see that 7 as a 10, and thus she beats out the blonde. I have an aversion to blondes and so while she's objectively a 9 (if say, 1000 men rate her, that's her average score). I just see her as a 6 when I'm personally rating her.

Makes sense?

mightymite88 · 2022-03-06T18:44:10+00:00

It's not a competition. It's about finding your audience.

I have a leather jacket and motorcycle boots. I'm not in competition with the dude wearing shit kickers and a cowboy hat. We're different genres. We appeal to different people.

Be yourself and you'll always find your audience.

Be "average white dude #7" and you'll have issues. Especially if you're afraid to show your unique personality because you think women only like one type of man

Imlouwhoareyou · 2022-03-06T18:41:58+00:00

Just be a cool dude bruh 🤷🏽‍♂️

RPEdmonton · 2022-03-06T19:52:12+00:00

I have a pretty ugly face which caused me low self esteem most of my life. But I take good care of my body and totally own it now. Also I forged a pretty good pretty good personality and I’m consistently told I’m fun

Electric_kundalini · 2022-03-06T18:47:35+00:00

Numbering yourself is self-sabotage as your setting limitations in your confidence and self-esteem. It's always incels that complain the most about looks.

CompetitionFair7686 · 2022-03-06T19:16:03+00:00

I hace seen plenty of average looking dudes act like they are the best thing to ever exist, and that gets them laid easily with super hot women.

I have also seen plenty of much better looking guys who are insecure and too self-conscious doubt themselves and screw up their chances because they do not believe in themselves and as such they self sabotage.

Sorry, but your mentality, your confidence, all play a more important part than looks. Yes looks can make things easier at first, but ultimately it’s your emotional stability, that gets you more success.

the problem people who complain they don’t have the looks, is that they are insufferable to be with, they are so fucking insecure they are exhausting to listen or to be with… Which woman would wanna be with someone so exhausting, so insecure, so nervous and so anxious…

This guys think all their dating problems would be solved it only God had given them better genetics, and as such think that because they don’t look like mister universe, then they are bound to be alone.

I don’t know about you but i see plenty of ugly people dating other people.

If you don’t get any girl at all, it’s not because of your looks, it’s because you are insufferable to be around due to that insecurity of yours.

daddysgotanew · 2022-03-06T22:06:06+00:00

I’m 6’1”, in good shape (more lanky than bulky, and have great hair. I’m about a 7 in the face.

I’m basically invisible. In a room full of people no one even acknowledges me most of the time.

You have to be top tier looking these days or you are a nobody

Important-Quote9544 · 2022-03-06T20:09:19+00:00

You can’t. You need to become a top tier guy (not easy at all). Or you will play second fiddle obviously.

No-Remove4548 · 2022-03-06T20:15:35+00:00

“Top tier” is very welcome to try getting my girl. There won’t be an L in any result. Don’t be afraid of loneliness.

5_7pickup · 2022-03-06T20:53:59+00:00

You take action thats how.

I find success via cold approach at clubs. Refer to my field reports on how I do it.

VeliVoy · 2022-03-06T22:13:45+00:00

Being a high status person is what attracts top tier girls. Nothing else. Most times not even your game is gonna matter much because you wouldn't even be considered because the girls' looking for a diamond and you giving her brass.

theundeadwombat · 2022-03-06T23:33:48+00:00

Be funny

jd45577 · 2022-03-07T16:21:57+00:00

we don’t

Title	Average and above average guys (5-8), How do you compete with top tier guys (9-10,11) ?
Author	yoitsappy
Upvotes	3
Comments	27
Date	March 6, 2022 6:39 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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